Ethereum is going to be saved scaling wise over this summer

[Anonymous No.14068888]

It will come out of nowhere for 99.5% of you.

I'm still accumulating so I won't tell you what it is. I just want you to recognize it when it becomes more known so you help both adoption and the fomo pump of my stack to the stratosphere. Maybe some of you are smart enough to recognize potential and quickly dyor and then buy when you see it. Pre-congrats to those. You might get 10x less gains than me, but you'll still get massive gains.

[Anonymous No.14068921]

holo or hubii?

[Anonymous No.14068922]

Yep another company has solved their problem very recently. I bought a lot of that coin and eth.

[Anonymous No.14068930]

>>14068888
hi
2018
https://www.hubii.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/nahmii-whitepaper.pdf

eth is going to zero and you know

[Anonymous No.14068941]

>>14068922
this guy thought it was Matic LOL

lets all laugh at him

[Anonymous No.14068942]

>>14068930
delet

[Anonymous No.14068950]

>>14068941
Wrong, it's not Matic.

[Anonymous No.14068957]

>>14068950
If you're done accumulating you might as well tell us what it is.

[Anonymous No.14069031]

Please tell us anon I want to be rich. I'll even suck your cock if you tell me

[Anonymous No.14069081]

>>14068888
bbbbut blockchains don't scale!!!

[Anonymous No.14069101]

TELL ME

[Anonymous No.14069126]

>>14069031
Hbt

[Anonymous No.14069129]

>2k volume
>2 years old
why lie

[Anonymous No.14069153]

>>14069129
it's going to be funny remembering this post

[Anonymous No.14069161]

>>14069153
dont fuckkkkkkkkk with meeeeeeeeeeeee
is it going to moon or not pls

[Anonymous No.14069164]

>>14069153
how many do i need to make it

[Anonymous No.14069172]

>>14069161
>>14069164
short it

[Anonymous No.14069182]

>>14069172
im gonna buy 2 eth

[Anonymous No.14069197]

>>14069182
don't. if you don't dyor and like what you find out, don't buy. don't buy something just because some bizlet made a post memeing about how its gonna pump.

[Anonymous No.14069201]

>>14068957
It's link. They solved it recently (may 30th):
"Our current best threshold signature scheme (described in this post) requires about 15k gas to confirm[7]. This means, for instance, that the $3,000 data point I mentioned earlier would only cost about $2, a 1,500-fold savings (and at current gas/ETH prices, the cost would be a bit over one cent, vs about $17 for validation of a 2,000-strong quorum, using the current framework.)"

[Anonymous No.14069206]

>>14069197
no im gonna buy it because a bizlet made a post about how its gonna pump

[Anonymous No.14069229]

>>14068888
How has nobody mentioned these digits? Checked OP.

[Anonymous No.14069254]

>>14069201
aggregation of chainlink answers and queries with a system of chainlink nodes makes sense, but you won't really run (scale) something like a trading platform using chainlink nodes & treshold signatures.

I guess technically you can run a sidechain's validation via specialized chainlink nodes & treshold signatures, but then it's sidechain scaling rather than directly scaling with chainlink and it would be cheaper to use alternative validation systems than specialized chainlink nodes as validators.

not to mention latency

[Anonymous No.14069264]

when's this airdriip desu

[Anonymous No.14069304]

>>14069264
it's been ongoing for half a year or so
you don't need to buy the main shekel to receive it. can just register your address that holds ethereum to be a recipient. I see you know something now that no one said in the thread. good that you're doing research. learn as much as you can before you make any decisions like this.

[Anonymous No.14069328]

>>14069264
it will last for 10 years btw. to ensure sufficient decentralization of the validation mechanisms

[Anonymous No.14069332]

>>14069304
so there is no benefit for holding hbt aswell? i just looked at the github but the website and social media don't look like they've been updated for a while

[Anonymous No.14069342]

>>14069304
oh wait nvm yeah i see

[Anonymous No.14069352]

>>14068888

Who gives shit lol

>There is 3 big pos testnets allready, beacon chain is groundwork for scaling;
>there are 3 huge (like 250 pajet shitcoins teams per team big) teams doing 3 directions of scaling reaserch (serenity-sharding, plasma, and vlads -casper);
>there are over 20 tokenised project doing only scaling (raiden, matic, etc);
>there is like 300 projects that depeand on eth scaling (mkr,bat,augur etc) all having 0 doubt it will scale eventually;
>there are projects that will just empower sc economy once it is mainstream (link);
>there are "competitors" working on plug in to eth solutions wonder why (eos,ada -etc);
>first of big 4 is betting on eth mainnet with 10 year long plan spending big resources (EY);


and yet space is full of;
>next eth shitcoins;
>cant scale narative;
>secret mooncoins that are gonna "save eth";
>competitors that are building shit from 0 but "it will be better";

[Anonymous No.14069386]

>>14069352

So tell me op why the fuck would anyone "look for next gem" thats gonna save eth instead just accumulate and dca in eth ?

[Anonymous No.14069427]

>>14069332
Yeah they say they're going to update the site pretty soon, awaiting just some artwork for the nahmii site. Guessing 1-4 weeks.

>>14069352
Not 100% sure what all the points are meant to convey in sum, so I'll just talk about them individually like an autist. Sorry if I seem like I misunderstand because I 99% likely am.

Plasma is likely a dead end. I followed plasma development for a long time and the problems teams have with it and the variants that they do try to implement. There's always a tradeoff between decentralization/trustless, liveness guarantee, latency, fee predictability and so on. No variant proposed today checks all the necessary boxes.

I have looked into raiden, matic, celer and more as well. They all have problems even simply at the theoretical level. I think celer is the coolest tech of the three, but it's unadoptable due to how state saving is monetized/incentivized. The end user doesn't want to deal with that shit.

Base layer scaling is great, but even 100s of thousands of tx/s won't be enough. Both 2nd layers and base layer must scale for ethereum to be able to be the new backbone of world financial applications.

Regarding Ethereum competitors, it's too late for them unless ethereum fails to deliver "good enough". Ethereum already has network effect advantage enough that all it needs to do is to be good enough. History is full of services that won because they captured an early network effect advantage and kept being "good enough" for people to bother to collectively switch en-masse to something else.

[Anonymous No.14069447]

>>14069386
>So tell me op why the fuck would anyone "look for next gem" thats gonna save eth instead just accumulate and dca in eth ?
To get more gains, obviously. One would rather have a 100x than a 10x if one thinks the 100x is close enough to being as good a bet as the 10x to be worth the risk difference.

Why does anyone buy individual stocks rather than simply buy into an index fund? Same reason. Seeking Alpha.

Don't buy anything btw. Just sit on eth. It will 20x or more within 3 years and you'll probably be well off.

[Anonymous No.14069480]

>>14069427
>>14069447

Ok lets say im shilleld (only becasue i dont have to buy shit) and have over 600 eth what do I have to do to get airdrops?
Do i get tokens realtive to eth or ?

[Anonymous No.14069507]

>>14069480
https://www.hubii.com/airdriip-faq/

[Anonymous No.14069695]

>>14068888
This shit (nahmii) has a highly proprietary look to it. They are very secretive about how it works, the operator part is apparently closed-source, there's no roadmap on their governance structure, and they literally just shut down the network for a couple months for unexplained reasons. Presumably due to some catastrophic bug.

There's no evidence that the market needs a proprietary second-layer scaling solution. If you contrast their stuff with Matic, the latter isn't just far more open and transparent, but also supports the whole EVM, not just some value transfer subset.

My prediction is that it will take all of 2019 and a bit of 2020 before nahmii is production-ready, and it will have to compete perhaps not just with Matic and Plasma but also Ethereum first layer scaling. Because they're just too slow.

But still it's the best microcap out there and I approve of holding this, but it could well go to 0 too.

[Anonymous No.14069760]

>>14069507

Go github install some "core" software wich is closed source to register my eth for airdrops...

Yeah no ty

[Anonymous No.14069836]

>>14068957
It's a coin between 30 - 40 million mcap.
Just released a tested solution for ethereum scaling.

[Anonymous No.14069875]

>>14069760
this wtf

[Anonymous No.14069896]

>>14069427

OmiseGo is pretty far at plasma development

[Anonymous No.14069909]

>Register for airdrop by importing your wallet and password
Fuck no

[Anonymous No.14069965]

>>14069427
>Plasma is likely a dead end.
Not the zk proof version.
https://mobile.twitter.com/the_matter_labs/status/1129439834819440641
I agree that the fraud proof version is dead.
See also https://www.starkdex.io/
Actually working scaling (not the abortion that is LN and similar) is either the zk approach or federated sidechains (loom, xdai).

[Anonymous No.14069982]

Remainder that state sharding (the only scaling solution that will give ETH an edge against any other projects) is literally 3-5 years away. flip shitcoins in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.14070025]

>>14068888
I fucking hate you people, stealing good dubs like this. Kek does as Kek pleases.

[Anonymous No.14070096]

bought 5k, why not
probably go to 0 tomorrow kek

[Anonymous No.14070247]

>>14069760
it's open source.
>>14069695
>This shit (nahmii) has a highly proprietary look to it.
Nahmii will be patented and the patent will be held by a foundation whose membership will be expanded to useful partners. It will be (and most parts already are) open source. They also don't want to be copied by competitors before they are able to gain network effect through usage.

>They are very secretive about how it works, the operator part is apparently closed-source, there's no roadmap on their governance structure, and
I agree. I tried asking them a lot of questions but the only thing I managed to get out of them regarding the operator was that it will start as a single operator, but that there can be more and that "they have a path to decentralization". I'm guessing it will probably be something stellaresque with select partners being operators, and their power is kept in check by NII staking watcher nodes that can dispute things with proofs to the smart contracts and even shut the whole thing down and make funds exit if there is fraud or serious liveness failure.

>they literally just shut down the network for a couple months for unexplained reasons. Presumably due to some catastrophic bug.
When? I can't remember any time they shut it down during mainnet testing and deployments that they did not tell people why. The only major incident I remember was when they tried to deploy to mainnet the first time and discovered their smart contracts were too big, so they had to rewrite a lot in order to split functions over more that call on each other's functions.
The recent shut down is due to the deployments of trades, and it has only lasted some 6-10 days iirc so it can't be that you're talking about.

>There's no evidence that the market needs a proprietary second-layer scaling solution.
So long as it's verifiably trustless, has good liveness guarantees and does all that needs to be done, there's no problem.
cont.

[Anonymous No.14070265]

>>14070247
why is the marketcap only 1 million but other undeniable shitcoins have 10x that?

[Anonymous No.14070270]

>If you contrast their stuff with Matic, the latter isn't just far more open and transparent, but also supports the whole EVM, not just some value transfer subset.
I doubt matic can escape the downsides of a plasma type child chain system. Even if they could a single matic chain would not be suitable for something like a dex that can handle the load of high frequency traders, bots, and you can't really run cross-childchain applications to scale a single application beyond the limits of one. According to themselves, smart contracts only work on the POS layer for now, and idk of any proposed solution to make them work on the child chains. Subjectively, I dislike and distrust esteban, but, that's subjective, so.
>My prediction is that it will take all of 2019 and a bit of 2020 before nahmii is production-ready, and it will have to compete perhaps not just with Matic and Plasma but also Ethereum first layer scaling. Because they're just too slow.
If the trades deployment right now goes well (we'll find out over the next couple of weeks of mainnet testing after deployment is finished sometime after the weekend), then we're looking at summer, not 2020. The payments part already works and is well tested. Late 2019 or 2020 will probably be when they remove the ability to pause the network, making any future updates having to happen live.
>>14069965
Interesting. Not a fan of federated sidechains as a general solution to scaling, but a zk proof version of plasma sounds like it might be useful. Will read.

[Anonymous No.14070284]

>>14070265
no marketing to crypto investors (until dex). only done b2b marketing after ICO.

[Anonymous No.14070298]

>>14069081
What's going on here? Why so many cables?

Also that mudflood victim in the background

[Anonymous No.14070331]

>>14070284
ok well 2020 maybe nice gains then

[Anonymous No.14070358]

>>14070331
If things go wrong with the deployment of any of the building blocks underpinning the summer launch, then maybe, yes.

[Anonymous No.14070378]

surprised to see HBT being talked about here, i still have 1k from ICO

i havent been keeping up too much, mostly just reading the TG. The team , specifically Jacobo is refreshingly professional

OP how do i view my nahmii balance without installing hubii core, it says "Off-chain balances on nahmii can be viewed using a variety of tools, including nahmii’s CLI" can you break it down please you seem like you know more about it than me

[Anonymous No.14070382]

>>14069836
shh, don't bother telling them, they genuinely believe it's a pajeet scam

[Anonymous No.14070398]

>>14070298
Hmm? That's what power lines look like when you run DC power instead of AC

most all countries switched to AC by now

[Anonymous No.14070588]

>>14070247
>>This shit (nahmii) has a highly proprietary look to it.
>Nahmii will be patented and the patent will be held by a foundation whose membership will be expanded to useful partners. It will be (and most parts already are) open source. They also don't want to be copied by competitors before they are able to gain network effect through usage.
There's a nice-sounding explanation for everything, but right now there's no evidence they have produced a valuable system. It's Proof of Faith, and as the recent network shutdown shows, that Faith may be misplaced too so it's still a super risky gamble.

>The recent shut down is due to the deployments of trades, and it has only lasted some 6-10 days iirc so it can't be that you're talking about.
I can only throw shitty Telegram quotes at you because nothing is really documented in this project. On April 27 John (admin) said nahmii's payments and settlement functions were paused for an "update". On May 13 Jacobo said it was still disabled. On May 27 Jacobo said it would be "fully back up in a couple of days". They always speak of days, but days turn to weeks, which turn to months. I'm not sure whether it's back up now, I'd suppose not. So that's at least a month of downtime.

There's no way in hell they can get a working trading platform this summer. They already hinted they're late on it. Their estimates are so bad they gave up completely on posting any estimates/roadmaps.

There's some potential here, but it's not what it seemed to be a year ago.

[Anonymous No.14070603]

>>14070588
i searched the archive and i saw all of your other posts (i can tell by writing style) and it's just you fudding this project over and over lol

search hubii and see yourself

[Anonymous No.14070625]

>>14070588
>>/biz/thread/S13840919#p13842998_1
>>/biz/thread/S13955381#p13957270_1
>>/biz/thread/S13955381#p13957270_2

these are you, kek

[Anonymous No.14070632]

>>14070603
There's one shill who regularly posts celebratory threads on this project, and I'm the one to urge caution. He stopped for a while after nahmii failed to deliver, but has since resumed.
Note that I'm essentially a bull whale too, but those shill posts shouldn't be left to stand unchallenged because this project needs to be criticized on a lot of stuff they're doing.
How about you respond to the content instead of brushing it aside as "FUD"?

[Anonymous No.14070642]

>>14070625
So? I stand by what I said there. Did you also notice that the hubii shill is also the same guy posting the same shit over and over again? He was already promising 100x moonshot returns a year ago. That never happened. Maybe in 2020 or 2021?

[Anonymous No.14070661]

>>14070632
im just saying is all. i just learned of this project i don't know anything about it really

>>14070642
kek
>it actually is the same anon
yeah people shill coins here all day, that isn't unusual. but people fudding coins consistently? now that seems a little odd to me..

[Anonymous No.14070676]

All these scaling solution coins going to zero

[Anonymous No.14070683]

Why do people think they'll capture & retain value long term?

[Anonymous No.14070684]

>>14070676
why?

[Anonymous No.14070689]

>>14070661
I follow a small handful of projects that I regularly search for. Those archived posts are on warosu. I figured the same points could be raised on a live thread again to get more visibility and some sort of discussion. All I'm saying is the shill posts are too one-sided.

[Anonymous No.14070737]

>>14070684
There's nothing in the economic design that promotes price growth. hence why when 99% of shitcoins went down, the exception was bnb which incentivised use & holding of the asset.