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Millennials didn't notice it yet while they're busy flipping their homes.
Boomers have still not noticed it yet while trading stocks and buying the top.
Zoomers and normies have still not noticed it yet while trading magic internet money.
/biz/ has still not noticed it yet while shilling their shitcoins and dreaming of lambo's.
The media is dead silent.
The rich are silently selling their stocks while covering up their ass with stock buybacks.
The greatest depression of all time awaits us.
Start to prep before its too late.
Deutsche is about to crash btw.

>> No.13987223

what is a smart move if you have about 10k euro in your savings account?

>> No.13987254

>>13987180
good. i hope it's 100 times worse than 08. i want to see a complete breakdown of society so i can live out my post apocalyptic fantasy.

>> No.13987257

>>13987223
Btc

>> No.13987345

>>13987180
My dream is as follows.
>full crisis starts with db
>fiat dumps
>btc pumps to 100k
>normies can't afford it.
>crypto exchanges dies after a last alt season
>bakkt eats the market
>the fed dies

The dream

>> No.13987364

>>13987345
Also, I want to buy a house I need the market to crush

>> No.13987382

Where I should my 20K in stocks?

>> No.13987396

There is a reason BSV is moving like this, the Bitcoin elites knows the crash is coming and are fully aware BTC is still wholly unprepared to scale to real-world use. BCH and BSV are the only chance at Bitcoin tech being a safe haven else everyone leaves for Ripple or Ethereum. Hate Roger Ver all you like but he was right about one thing, at the end of the day economics matter.

>> No.13987516

>>13987180
what would the time of impact be?

Q3 2020?

>> No.13987532

>>13987180
You're right, the 10Y yield is heading lower than 2% and the Fed is predicted by 85% of investors to lower rates in September.

We're unironically heading into a depression again. Ray Dalio's book explains how whenever interest rates approach zero, you are absolutely fucked. We thought that things would normalize, but the government just keeps buying up assets to effectively pump the money supply like they have been doing for the past 10+ years.

We're heading into the endgame of a economic supercycle. The only ways out are an actual largescale war, an extensive trade war on the rest of the world lasting decades, or a massive rework of the US dollar. It will probably be all of the above. I encourage you guys to put your money in real assets. Stocks should perform ok, but any fixed income investors could get absolutely shafted.

There will also probanly be massive transfers of wealth to spur economic growth but this this will mostly help poor people and the elites. Working class people will get fucked.

>> No.13987571

>>13987532
>War with Iran
>Trade war(s)
>QE making a return

Pretty fucking comfy right now in crypto desu

>> No.13987597

>>13987516
It doesnt matter, could be already happening, could be in 6 months, or 3 years. Either way, you will be in the bulldozers path if you don't position yourself correctly.

Own real assets & real companies. Avoid fixed income like the plague, and a small amount of gold if you want to improve risk adjusted returns. Avoid miners though, most are a scam and their objective is to make their managers rich by stealing shareholder wealth, also they are overpriced relative to their asset value and earnings.

>> No.13987599

>>13987516
Possible yes.
2020 will be the decisive year.

>> No.13987619

>>13987532
>Doom and gloom
>I've been wrong for over 10 years, but now I'm right!

Kek

>> No.13987624

>>13987532
>Stocks

Its crypto you faggot, only crypto will save your ass

Why do you think institutional money is coming hard on bitcoin, and futures volume on cme are hiting records

>> No.13987629

If you think normies are going to buy crypto to hedge their portfolio you are delusional. When they see their portfolios tank during a severe crisis the last thing on their mind is to buy some obscure investment such as bitcoin which lost 90%+ of its value in 2018. Yes , we on /biz/ know its a good asset but that doesn't mean it will moon during an economic collapse in fact it will probably crash because people need the money to pay the bills.

>> No.13987637

>>13987571
This next QE will be Obama era helicopter money, overpriced infrastructure, and taxing people making six figures to funnel more money to niggers (the great thing is niggers always spend every last cent so there is a huge money muliplier effect).

>> No.13987648

>>13987624

There has been zero direct institutional investment in crypto. The only investment has been in crypto start ups rather than the coins itself. Prove me wrong.

>> No.13987662

>>13987629
normie money means nothing

if institutions are coming is, thats what matter

>> No.13987672

>>13987662

And they are not coming and never will.

>> No.13987699

>>13987629
Normies don't buy shit, that is why they are normies. You think normies bought anything during the Great Depression to save themselves? No, they had no assets and nothing to trade for and because of it got hurt the hardest and spent their years in the soup lines and begging for farm work.

What crypto will be is the one of the greatest transfer of wealth seen in history. Only the smartest and brightest will have the brains to get in early and hold.

It's naive to assume people will be buying stocks when all of society will lose faith in the stock market as an institution.

>> No.13987714

>>13987672
>what is Bakkt and Fidelity

>> No.13987736

>>13987648
>>13987672
Binance report literally stated that bitcoin growth in 2019 was due to institutional money, why you think it pumped since december? Normies doing price average after getting rekt? Rofl

>> No.13987737

>>13987699
What about precious metals?

>> No.13987738

>>13987699
Psychological FOMO dictates every aspect of a normie's life. You think they're gonna let chad make 5000x gains in crypto and NOT get in even if it means buying the top with a loan?

>> No.13987757

>>13987736
>>>13987672 (You)

Please show me an example of an institution that listed bitcoin on its balance sheet. Don't you think Binance has an incentive to lie about the market?

>> No.13987759

>>13987364

This. I'm a leaf and prices are already dipping in Vancouver - hoping for the same but in a smaller city that won't be underwater in 50 years.

>> No.13987767

>>13987738
>
and of course MSM is responsible for driving a lot of the FOMO. We haven't even reached normie-shilling on cable news yet. CNBC Panel on Friday obliterated Bitcoin while it's up what $4000 in 2 months?

>> No.13987790

>>13987757

I want to add that investment funds report to boomer investors and oldtimers. How would you explain to the 60 yr old CEO of a pension fund who is a big client of your firm that you invested the money in some coin?

>> No.13987796

>>13987180
i was aware of biz being retarded, but the amount of people here who live in a fantasy dreamland thinking their memecoins are gonna magically moon in a financial crisis is beyond me. And to say that institutions will jump in on cryptos in a crash... my fucking god why would they speculate on btc when they can literally buy any business with INTRINSIC VALUE for pennies on the dollar?
Have fun bagholding the biggest dip you'll ever see, i'll sure enjoy buying them from you.

>> No.13987814

>>13987796
You're already seeing the Chinese move their money into crypto versus the USD after Tariff man slapped them silly.

>> No.13987818

>>13987796
when bitcoin facilitates trade in a worldwide trade war it gives every business and institution a reason to have some

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>>13987757
https://money.cnn.com/quote/shareholders/shareholders.html?symb=OSTK&subView=institutional

Look at the list of names buying the shit out of Overstock. Why would big names like Why Morgan Stanley and Black Rock take huge positions in a dying retail company unless they wanted a piece of Medici Ventures?

Look up what Medici Land is doing with the World Bank.

>> No.13987846

I don't really care unless LINK pops off. I have 20K in real stocks but I don't want to touch it because that shit didn't even budge during 2008 and I'm poor as fuck anyways so what do I care if the world goes to shit?

>> No.13987871

>>13987824

They are just shareholders in the company. They invest in all kinds of new technology . It still isn't proof Morgan Stanley bought bitcoin.

>> No.13987885

>>13987757
>What is custody

Gtfo brainlet, go buy apple stocks or some shiny rock that a third party company will keep for you

>> No.13987915

>>13987885

You can't provide proof that institutions directly bought the COIN other than being invested in blockchain startups. You can't because they didn't. Any public company has to report all assets on their balance sheet in their annual report. I have yet to see bitcoin listed on there.

>> No.13987924

this is unironically bullish for bitcoin

>> No.13987930

>>13987796
yet another retard boomer

>muh intrinsic value

stay poor brainlet

>> No.13987945

>>13987699
Which cryptos to buy though?

>> No.13987953

>>13987364
this, im going all in on bitcoin , its the one thing that will save your cash during the next great depression on the way and also housing here in Dublin is fucking ludicrous holy fucking sharing rooms with 15 Brazilian immigrants in the kitchen with bunk beds for 1,5K a month this shit is going to pop and im coming to fucking cum when it does and im hedged and ready

>> No.13987963

>>13987180
Sounds like a good timing.

Will put all my cash on sexcoin

>> No.13987975

>>13987382
you should see ur stocks soon, hold as a cash reserve hedge cash in gold/bitcoin and then buy back on during the great firesale of 2021-2022

>> No.13987980

>>13987254
the dream of every neet, god I wish you were right, but (((they))) would never allow it

>> No.13987989

>>13987871
They want a piece of blockchain tech and investing in the company that was at the forefront in the beginning, how is that not bullish for crypto in general?

Also Overstock is betting big on PUBLIC blockchains like Raven and FLO. If it were private chain bullshit like Ethereum is doing with Microsoft I could see the criticism.

Also since cryptos are not a stock, I do not believe there is a legal obligation to report actual coin holdings, correct me if i'm wrong. They could have treasure holdings of BTC and we know nothing, I know Overstock has not reported their FLO holdings but have reported Raven for instance.

>>13987945
See above. Very bullish on FLO and Raven.

>> No.13987993

>>13987953
When I was young teachers used to say life in Germany was easier because of cheaper rent and that Sweden was the most developed country of westerns civilizations.

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>>13987699
Based. There are only 3 coins that matter. The third one should be 100% of your portfolio until it reaches at least $30

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ITT people trying to get you to buy their buttcorn bags because >muh crash
>muh store of value.
If you can't see the writing on the wall for what it is and you lurk here then you deserve to lose everything.

>> No.13988008

>>13987180
how can I make money off this
I heard the SQQQ is risky as fuck but is it riskier than crypto?

>> No.13988013
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>>13988000
$100.00*

>> No.13988019

>>13988000
Fantom makes ethereum obsolete

>> No.13988025

>>13988000
I don't get enough shekels from my wagecuck job to DCA into all 3...should I just DCA into Chainlink/ETH and forego btc? Already have 80k linkies

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>>13988013
my bad. i was playing the teeka card

>> No.13988043

>>13987989

I agree with institutional interest being bullish for crypto, however I am pointing out there has been no proof of institutional buyers of the crypto coins themselves as of now. Therefore institutions buying crypto before or during a financial crisis and a resulting moon in crypto is a fairy tale.

>> No.13988050

>>13987629
Huh dur, what is the rush to custody solutions all about?

>> No.13988064

>>13988019
Ethereum has such a huge first mover advantage that I don't see anything overtaking it as a smart contract platform...it's like saying this and that is the btc killer; however, btc will live on despite having inferior tech.

>> No.13988071

>>13987736
>binance

You're a retard, can't believe I share this board with brainlets

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>>13988064
ETH is a mess

>> No.13988078

>>13988043
Isn't this a sign that we are early? Sounds good to me.

>> No.13988081

>>13987796
go onto tradingview
look at gold charts from 2007 to 2013
now we have a digit gold
have a big think

>> No.13988095

>>13987796
Instrinsic value is so subverted in mal investment that you are in for a rude awaking in shifting values

>> No.13988098

>>13988043
Agree, there is no proof and I wouldn't bet my life on it but. But there are also plenty of rumors too, I remember way back in 2013 there were rumors of banks seeking big BTC holders and quietly cutting them checks to get ahold of their supply.

My philosophy has always been this, I'd rather have a big bag of gold than crypto, but since I am a middle-class guy with no wealth to preserve, I have a greater chance at creating wealth and crypto going up 100x than I do buying gold at the pawn shop. Life is all about risk and I find the risk-to-reward ratio more favorable with crypto than precious metals.

>> No.13988099

>>13987619
It's nice that degenerate scum keeps getting tricked into buying shiny rocks and camo pants instead of participating in the greatest equities boom in history. Thanks doom preppers!

>> No.13988102

>>13988050

They are offering a product for POTENTIAL users.

>> No.13988111

>>13987757
Fucking complete brainlet, they have bought 20% of all mined btc in March...fucking child..
https://www.google.com/search?q=gbtc&oq=gbtc&aqs=chrome..69i57.1718j0j9&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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>>13988030
Good call either way fren.

>> No.13988121

>>13987180
BUY TESLA

>> No.13988126

OP, FOR THE FIFTH TIME. HOW THE FUCK CAN I PROFIT OF THIS AS A POORFAG? HELP ME FAGGOT. I WANT TO JEW THE JEWS

>> No.13988132

>>13988072
It's brand new technology that is being developed, of course it's a mess. Windows was also a mess when it was first released and look at it now...it's less of a mess.

>> No.13988133

>>13987953
>The Dublin meme
Honestly it's your own fault

>> No.13988137

>>13988102
Coinbase custody/institutional has had investment firms for a while. You would rather bait than use a Google search

>> No.13988140

>>13988099
Is LINK part of this great equity boom?

>> No.13988144

>>13988071

Good argument there, subhuman nigger

Go back to the favela

>> No.13988155

>>13988137
>>13988111

When I mean institutional investors I mean firms such as Blackrock not some fund no one has ever heard of outside the crypto cult.

>> No.13988169

>>13987637
Problem is the “money multiplier effect” is a meme

>> No.13988182

>>13988155
Ask me how I know you're poor.

>> No.13988189

>>13988155

what is your problem

fucking brainlets cant connect dots or google, ffs

>> No.13988195

>>13988133
i know the country is much cheaper (im on the border to dublin) but the prices there are still way overpriced its ridiculous for how much of a shithole it is especially cramming in with 15 brazilians sleeping on the floor in a kitchen lmao

>> No.13988197

>>13988155
It's not my fault your a fool, like I said they bought 20% of all mined btc in march...if all you can do is name blackrock you will never make it..look at there holding foolie...https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2019/05/01/drop-gold-bitcoin.. You will never make it

>> No.13988223

>>13988197
https://mobile.twitter.com/GrayscaleInvest/status/1135654953559760897?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


2 billion in crypto assets....

>> No.13988237

>>13988140

Only pajeet shitcoins will not be a good investiment

>> No.13988264

>>13988197
>>13988223

The original question was whether institutional money from Wall St would flow to crypto in the event of a crisis. So far you have listed one firm with only 2 billion in assets which is pocket change on Wall st.

>> No.13988279

>>13987223
Wait for real estate to crash, "buy" a property on mortgage at the bottom. Or hold regular bitcoin.

>> No.13988280

>>13988025
>i already have 80k linkies

... youve already made it bro...

>> No.13988282

>>13987759
How you holding up on the mainland friend? Are you getting blacked hard at the moment? Its starting to feel like they've dumped half of Haiti on the island.

>> No.13988290

Where do I convert my neetbucks to hot pockets?

>> No.13988295

>>13987180
My indicator is global warming and tranny propaganda. When those things stop being talked about in the media, it means they're talking about how bad the economy is, blaming it on the rich, etc. which means is time to buy.

In the meantime wagecuck and get cash to buy stocks because it may take years until it all ends, or even starts.

>> No.13988298

>>13987648
Are you retarded? VC firms own truckloads of crypto

>> No.13988302

>>13988280
So should I just accumulate btc and eth? I was going for 100k linkies

>> No.13988306

>>13988264
Wow, kids these days are funny...
2 billion in crypto pocket change....it only trades otc also....go tell Mommy 2 billion is pocket change

>> No.13988319

>>13988306
I am hopeful this is still the way average people think.

>> No.13988339

I can't believe the BSV hype. Millennials are fucking retarded lol.

>> No.13988357

>>13987629
>yfw Greece did literally this when the drachma got liquidated for eu reparations
Repeat in the civilized world isn't out of the question

>> No.13988383

>>13988302
You can do whatever the fuck you want. If i were you id buy some ETH and KMD to diversify and keep the rest in cash or physic gold

>> No.13988409

>>13987180
The crash might not be here yet. We've had too short of a bounce of the inversion and volatility is through the roof.

>> No.13988417

>>13988383
Okay...I'm just gonna accumulate eth then...I think eth and chainlink have the best potential long term.

>> No.13988419

>>13988155
>moving the goalposts this hard

Sad!

>> No.13988431

>>13987180
>Deutsche is about to crash btw

that bank is awful and has been crashing for awhile. its debt will just be bought for pennies on the dollar from other banks and be turned into profitable loans for them

>> No.13988442

>>13987796
Not being tied to central banks is intrinsic value. And it’s better than gold exactly because it’s digital

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>>13987699
>Only the smartest and brightest will have the brains to get in early and hold.


Imagine developing a massive ego just because you bought some internet meme money before normies did lol

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13988451

when everyone is saying its going to crash
then its not going to actually crash
check and mate

>> No.13988465

>>13988444
checked and kek'd

>> No.13988486

>>13988098
you're making a mistake thinking crypto wont crash with the market, metals is the only thing you can be sure won't
it's just about surviving the crash, the money-making comes afterwards

>> No.13988491

>>13988444
To choose the rights ones yes. Think of all the morons who bought all the wrong scam coins that came and went over the years and now have nothing.

>> No.13988540

>>13988444

You know its a filth nigger when they say internet meme money

Leave this place Jorge, go fuck your sister

>> No.13988565

>>13987223
Gold. BTC is going to be the first thing to crash.

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I dont have a small percentage of my net worth in ETFs like MSCI World and MSCI Emerging Markets.

Should i better sell them and invest that money in gold (im not buying BTC at these prices) or just keep holding them?

>> No.13988575

>>13988264
You're correct. Anyone with half a brain knows that buying crypto when the economy tanks is a meme. Nobody is going to put their money into fucking bitcoin. Don't bother arguing with these morons.

>> No.13988580

>>13987223
All of these fags want you to buy gold, btc, whatever. The real chad move, what I am doing, is shorting the major indexes. Free money

>> No.13988584

>>13987396
Why do retards like you like to imagine up authority and power figures to fawn over? There are no 'elites' in Bitcoin, just people who hold a lot. Read the code you dumb fuck. Jesus. You don't even need to own a single sat to see Bitcoin is shit at scaling and is unusable for anything important.

>> No.13988645

I’m sure crypto will take a big hit like how it did alongside the stock market back in mid December last year. So either short the shit out of everything and buy more with those peridots or stay poor.

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>>13987180
So what to do if
FIAT = REKT
STOCKS = REKT
GOLD = REKT
CRYPTO = REKT

>> No.13988675

>>13988575
>>13988584

i picture these mongoloids as a 25~30y weirdo balding ti guy, faps 2x a day and never had sex with a human

have sex incel

>> No.13988688

>>13987532
Interest rates are not at zero though. They were for a very long time. The rate has been raised numerous times since then. Dropping it a bip isn’t anything but throttling. Though I agree that a major war will most certainly break out, the economy suffering is the opposite of my expectation. This doom and gloom is being spread by institutions taking the exact opposite bet. And believe it or not, the Fed and Global elite actually like Trump and what he’s doing. Consider also what happens when a major war breaks out in the Middle East: price of oil soars. What happens when oil soars? The dollar weakens and inflation happens. So the US potential problems would be technically solved, while our significant production increase would allow us greater advantage to buy allies with more affordable oil, thus avoiding our competitors in this area (like Russia) from gaining much advantage. Not only will this happen, it has been happening for many years. The pieces have been in motion for just this happening.

>> No.13988693

>>13987796
Fuck off Peter Schiff

>> No.13988695 [DELETED] 

>>13988667
Own stuff to barter with, such as guns, food, water, tools, etc.

>> No.13988702

>>13987223
Buy some migrants, give them some guns and ship them to Ukraine for the €€€

>> No.13988720

>>13987629
what is Venezuela? A lot of people in fucked up countries rely on Bitcoin

>> No.13988773

>>13987699
>its naive to think people will hold their money in bank acounts when all of society has lost faith in the banking sector as an institution.
Oh wait.. you're assuming people can make their own decisions.

>> No.13988826

how cheap do you guys think homes will become during this depression? I'm talking homes that are 250k now. Anyone know how much value they lost in 08?

>> No.13988857

>>13988826
some 35-40%

>> No.13988878

>>13988826
Probably 50% cheaper or more.

>> No.13988885

>>13988857
this makes me moist

>> No.13988948

>>13988885
All of us buddy. Play the cards right and this crash will be your ticket to comfiness

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>tfw work in manufacturing

i'm gonna lose my mcjerb aint I. won't have nothin to buy the gotdam dipperoo

>> No.13988976

>>13988960
Sell your crypto at the top of the crypto bullrun in 2021 which is also the bottom of the stock market and move 90% into stocks

>> No.13989001

>>13987180
>hurr durr

>> No.13989003

>>13988976
I'm screen capping this so my dumbass doesnt forget

>> No.13989043

>>13989003
It will also be the time we go to war with china/russia/iran

>> No.13989079

>>13989043
then it probably wont matter cause my ass will end up getting drafted

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>>13988580
Watches The Big Short once

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>>13987180
give me sauce for these charts please, i'm fucking begging here

>> No.13989797

>>13987180
Is this good for crypto or bad for crypto

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>>13987597
Would rolling a 401k into 100% money market funds be a good idea? Those dont drop in recessions do they

>> No.13989900

>>13987532
>Reply
We're not going into a fucking depression, you retarded chicken little. The stock market is not the fucking economy. The US economy is doing fine.
If you think there are conditions similar to the Great Depression, then you have no clue why it happened in the first place. And are even more clueless about what's in place to prevent it, that aren't even close to being kicked in.

I guarantee you this time next year, it will be sunny, the birdies will be chirping, and the world will be pretty much the same as it is now.

>> No.13989919

>>13987736
Uh huh.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-31/bitcoin-s-rally-masks-uncomfortable-fact-almost-nobody-uses-it?srnd=cryptocurrencies

>> No.13989939

>>13987180
Post your short trade I want to laugh

Hopefully it’s max margin max leverage you fucking retard

S&P 5000 within 3 years

>> No.13990037

>>13988826

I bought my home in 11 for ~70k. During the mid 00s housing boom, it sold for 205k. It's currently valued at 240k.

A lot has changed since 08, but you could see homes drop by 100k. They were worth 100k less in my area just four years ago.

>> No.13990044

>>13987180
OP you faggot, people have been talking about the market crash here for the last half year. There were numerous threads about the reverse bond yield curve not but a couple weeks ago. It's not our fault you're a braindead newfag, everyone already knows the market is about to go tits up outside of boomers desperately trying to shill their bags to the youngsters

>> No.13990065

How the fuck do you prepare for the greatest economic crash the world will ever see?

>> No.13990097

I've been hearing people say the crash is coming for ten years. And by all rights, it SHOULD HAVE happened.

I completely underestimated how much they've been able to prop up this economy. Nobody knows when it's going down, at this point I half think they could keep the game going forever.

>> No.13990098

>>13990044
People in general always talk about market crashes, because there's always SOMEONE hoping it crashes. Usually it's from someone trying to sell something, or benefit from it. Doesn't mean they're right. Most crashes aren't seen ahead of time - 2008, NOBODY saw, because the banks were hiding the fundamental causes of it.

>> No.13990115

>>13990098
Fair enough, makes me wonder what will be the cause of the next crash though.

>>13990065
By investing in crypto and lead

>> No.13990139

>>13987662
This x1000000

>> No.13990143

>>13990115
>crypto
yes

>lead
lol no, I am a brainy urbanite with zero survival skills let alone combat skills

can't I just move to New Zealand?

>> No.13990156

>>13987796
This x10000 also. Ready and waiting to liquidate my PMs at the top for your crypto’s at the bottom

Thanks for playing retards

>> No.13990167

>>13990143
>brainy
>zero survival skills let alone combat skills
hmm

>> No.13990173

>>13990143
That's what they're in the business for though. Smith and Wesson made all men truly equal

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>>13987796
>t. the silverposter

>> No.13990210

>>13990115
Figure that out, you'll be rich beyond your wildest dreams. Even guys like Buffet can't do that.

The pure facts are, nobody knows why it hasn't crashed, or if the pattern everyone insists that the markets follow is what has to happen. Some analysts are capitulating and saying the fundamentals have changed, and nobody knows.

But always remember - the stock market is not the economy. The real pain in 2008 wasn't from just the stock market, most people I know were fine, because it only hit their 401ks.
The economy? Different story. That's not showing any signs of crashing.
We'll have another recession, at some point. And, it's not the end of the world, recessions are typically quick to recover from, unless you have systemic issues like Japan did. We don't. We have problems, but not like that.

Most of the doom and gloom here is from pajeets and incels who think there's going to be a "happening" and the "jews' will lose their dollars and banks. Not happening. And, if something like that happened - they'd be the first on the firepit to feed the savages in the new wasteland.

>> No.13990222

>>13988580
Bold move there cottin. Let’s see if it pays off

>> No.13990237

>>13990065
breed chickens, grow your own garden, save your money and invest in crypto or precious medals. pretty much all things you should be doing right now anyways. Also owning a few guns because niggers gonna nig

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>>13987364
Paying retail prices for a house....anon... I....

>> No.13990259

>>13988580
Hey what's the downside of doing this
People make it sound scary but it can't be worse than crypto right? Is it gonna put me in debt if it goes wrong or what?

>> No.13990266

>>13990173
>>13990237
I refuse to be put in a situation where I have to defend my life physically with weapons. If I end up in a situation like that I have already failed.

What are things you can do to make sure you DON'T end up that way? If shit really hits the fan then moving to a "safe" country like NZ seems like the only option

>> No.13990304

>>13990266
There is no such thing as a safe place and you're fooling yourself if you believe there is one. Life is about opportunity cost and risk management, you can live in safer areas in exchange for your freedom if you truly want but even in the "safest" places on earth you will always have someone that decides to stab someone else with their homemade butterknife shank.

If you want to move someplace "safe" economic stability is probably the best way to determine that I would assume

>> No.13990311

>>13990259
I think you can have infinite losses...

>> No.13990325

>>13990311
ok never mind fuck that I don't want to go homeless

>> No.13990334

>>13990266
>I refuse to be put in a situation where I have to defend my life physically with weapons
Are you fucking stupid? Buy a gun for protection you dumb faggot. be

>> No.13990379

>>13990334
Let me put it this way: if I am in a situation where I have to actually handle my gun (either to use or as a show of force) my standards of living are probably already in such a terrible shape that it might as well be like living like a hobo for an urbanite like me. I want to do something BEFORE I reach that point

>> No.13990456

>>13990379

The idea is you never actually expect to use the gun, but you accept the fact people are fucking crazy and the possiblity of someone robbing you always there. Especially if youre in a comfy situation

>> No.13990515

>>13990379

Rich people get robbed and murdered all the time you stupid faggot. Take responsibility for your and your family's safety.

>> No.13990523

>>13990456
That's not what we're talking about. We're not talking about having a gun in your glove compartment just in case some nigger tries to rob us, we're talking about hoarding guns and ammo and living off the land like a medieval peasant because the rule of law has collapsed.

Which is just an insane proposition IMHO, we're soft urbanites and we're used to living comfy lives. Much more prudent to just escape to a safe country before that shit happens

>> No.13990524

>>13990379
better to have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it
double barrel shotgun is fine not everyone needs an AK47

>> No.13990541

>>13987180
>millennials
>owning homes
nice larp

>> No.13990546

>>13987180
>ignore the 2 times where it was wrong

>> No.13990553

>>13990515
>Rich people get robbed and murdered all the time
Not really...at least not at a high frequency as you state

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>>13988688
based. redpilled. checked.

>> No.13990574

>>13990266

>I refuse to be put in a situation where I have to defend my life physically with weapons

ROFL

i dream about being free to shoot niggers on sight

>> No.13990593

>>13987257
no this is the time to sell btc after holding it for a year.

>> No.13990616

>>13990143
>can't I just move to New Zealand?
We're full up, sorry mate. Try Australia.

>> No.13990751

>load corporations up with debt to buyback stocks

there is no bottom this time, rates will go fucking negative for sure to reblow a bubble.

>> No.13991076

>>13990616
>Try Australia
fuck off, we're full

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>why hasn't it crashed yet?
ITT everyone forgets that the plunge protection team is a thing. They can keep this up as long as they fuckin want

>> No.13991585

>>13987257
>invest your money into something that cost 4 bucks to use everytime

4 bucks is cheap considering where btc goes at higher prices. Absolutely pathetic protruding nipples of a shitcoin.

>> No.13991682

>>13987796
>INTRINSIC VALUE
Communist detected

>> No.13991725

>>13988064
Eth only exists because Bitcoin was limited.

>> No.13991753

sitting on 50k cash
ready for the crash
strap in

>> No.13991774

>>13988584
Btc is not Bitcoin

>> No.13991783

>>13987532
> fixed income investors could get absolutely shafted.

maybe if you bought corporate junk bonds. Why do people think interest rate cuts hurt bonds? If you are holding bonds now, a cut in interest rate means the bonds you hold now go UP in value

Ill break it down since everyone posts this garbage:

bond now: 2.5% interest
new bond: 1.5% interest

which one is worth more??????

>> No.13991785

>>13988976
Stonks will have tokens on SV by that time.

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>>13990143
>can't I just move to New Zealand?
No

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ITT: NEET permabear cope

>> No.13991856

Ayy, we can fuck lil' mama, I can't lip lock (I can't what?)
Gucci, spent a hunnid on some new socks (New socks)
Coulda bought a crib, bought a drop top (Skrrt, skrrt)
I can't love a bitch, trust no thot (No thot)

>> No.13991861

>>13988976
This has been my working plan

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>>13991819
>buy sqqq or sdow on friday
>market is usually up on fridays, so cheap short positions
>china loads up their FUD on the weekend
>trump cant handle not being stupid on twitter
>sell for profit when market dumps on monday

easy money

>> No.13991958

>>13988575
You fucking retard, you illiterate baboon, crypto would moon in a recession because governments print money to stimulate the economy and crypto supply is fixed.

This is why housing cost so much post 2008 they printed so much money that inflation caused a price rise of things you can't import.

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>>13991958
This is for you, for future use

>> No.13992225

>>13987757
Just look at the premium on GBTC. Also most funds are private hence why there isn't a digital asset etf.

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>>13988667
diiiiiiiie

>> No.13992328

>>13990524
All this talk of guns and self-defense, if your that rich just get yourself a fucking panic room. Hell I live in tornado alley, I’d build myself a comfy nado resistant one with a big screen and a bar inside and chill while cops come and do the dirty work of shooting intruding niggers for me, that is what I’d be paying insane property taxes for, right?

>> No.13992370

>>13987345
Btc will be a lot more than 100k if that happens.

>> No.13992433

>>13989142
I did and I really didn't understand what was happening to be honest.

>> No.13992560

lmao what a bunch of doomsday bullshit

>> No.13992589

>>13987796
this lmao

>> No.13992625
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It’s time for America to be humbled on her knees and watch the USD BURN TO HELL!

God bless you Satoshi Nakamoto

https://btcsatoshi.com

>> No.13992637

Buy btc

>> No.13992660

>>13988126
You're not going to Jew the Jews by asking how to Jew the Jews, that's for sure.

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>>13990210
There are some rare voices of sanity on this board.

>> No.13992706

>>13990210
Jews will never be usurped because goyim are too stupid to rise up. Thankfully, they don't mind if you ride their coattails for a few million or so, so long as you don't usurp them in wealth.

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>>13987180
Good thread today ty

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>>13988720
>A lot of people in fucked up countries rely on Bitcoin


They use bitcoin to get USD you fool.

>> No.13992896

Apparently /biz/ is full of rubes.

Crypto will suffer when the recession happens and then will be picked up right after due to the fact that people will have mistrust in larger institutions.

No one will be investing shit anywhere during the fucking drop you imbeciles. But as soon as the “recovery” begins, expect big crypto gains.

>> No.13992939
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Before the 1930s, the USD was backed by silver and gold you can walk into any bank and exchange $30 for an ounce of gold.Today the USD isn’t backed by nothing only by people’s confidence but it has no more intrinsic value in fact it is being devalued it is $0.02 per $1.

In history, over 200 of the world’s fiat currencies have dropped to zero but Bitcoin will NEVER go back to zero.
When Hyperinflation hit Zimbabwe in 2000s, the highest amount printed by their corrupt government, was a $100 Trillion Zimbabwean dollar bill similar to Weimar Germany in the 1930s.

People will actually fill wheelbarrows with Marks and dump them on the streets. Kids will play by stacking them up high, wives will decorate their walls with worthless Marks and during winter husbands will use it as fuel to warm up their homes.
The Zimbabwean dollar and Mark are now completely worthless today there are homeless Zimbabwean Trillionaires holding stacks of garbage!

The Elite said “We’re going to kill the US dollar”. Sooner or later the USD is going to become worthless and one morning people are going to WAKE UP holding onto pieces of paper.This is how much people trust their own corrupt governments but only the smart ones prepare before Hyperinflation- stocking up on food, water, guns, ammo, gold and silver bullion and cryptocurrencies.

Sadly the people in Venezuela found out the hard way when Hyperinflation hit them due to Socialism. It destroyed the once rich country in oil resources it now costs 100 million or more Bolivars for a cup of coffee.
There are ghastly stories circulating around the world. Venezuelans are eating food from the trash, killing and eating dogs and cats and other horrible things just to survive.

Bitcoin is a store of value and it’s the new gold now called “digital gold” and in itself has value because it is backed by many things.

>> No.13992943

>>13992896
>Crypto will suffer when the recession happens
How to spot a newfag 101

>> No.13992955

>>13992896
imo new money won't be investing, but the ones who are already in crypto will consolidate their positions into BTC/ETH/whatever. If that happens then BTC/ETH will moon hard, assuming that this crash happens after an alt bull run

>> No.13992982

>>13992939
>Bitcoin will NEVER go back to zero
How to spot a corecuck 101

>> No.13992995

>>13992982

You must be yet another noob that absolutely no idea what is Bitcoin or maybe BullShitVision cuck

>> No.13993025

>>13992943
Bitcoin has never be tested under a recession so if anything, you're the newfag.

>> No.13993055

>>13988667
provide sexual favours to my local warlord

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>>13992896
>He thinks an international decentralized currency/store of value is going to go DOWN because of a recession

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Ok yes. but what the fuck do you do to avoid catastrophic loss? Jesus christ this board, not btc, not gold, fiat forever dropping, obviously not stocks so then what, nothing? Surely someone out there isn't sharing

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>>13988064
*blocks your path*

>> No.13993095

>>13992982
How to spot small penis

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Semi oldfag and survivor of the 2008 recession here. Everybody says nobody saw it coming, that's not true. If you pay attention and look at the breadcrumbs you can usually figure out what's coming. There will always be normies/boomers/buffets/cnbc personalities that will tell you nothing is wrong stay in the market, it'll all work out....while they're dumping their bags on you. I was in all cash prior to the big dump and felt I handled it pretty well. What I didn't grasp at the time is what I should've been in..... which is something with a finite supply. Gold would've been fantastic. It got up to around 2k/per ounce. What the charts don't tell you was the premium on physical gold. Sure gold was 2k/oz but if you wanted to buy a Gold Eagle or Kreugerand there was a $300 premium on top of that.... *IF* they even had them in stock or could get them. There other thing I remember was there were talks about banks limiting cash withdrawls. They were scared shitless there would be bank runs. There was even talk about money market accounts not necessarily being safe. All in all it ended up ok but a lot of folks don't seem to remember the fear and panic that set in. When everybody is afraid they're going to lose their job people tend to stop spending their money. When everybody stops spending their money people start to lose their jobs. It's a nasty cycle. Who knows Trump may keep this market crabbing for a year through twitter alone. If it starts to go up or down he seems to have a tweet to reverse its course. My bet is DB or Euro trouble will kick this thing off and everything will cascade from there. My advice? Buy Gold, Silver, precious metals are good, any PM will do. Buy crypto. I'm balls deep in both. Diversify your crypto a bit, if you "all in" just one coin you're a fucking brainlet. There are guys here who are better traders than me who will scalp a few more percent out of the stock market as it crabs but I sleep better at night in crypto and gold.

>> No.13993117

>>13993081
artifacts and utility assets.

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>>13993100
based. BTC/LINK?

>> No.13993150

Is there anyone who actually knows what's going on?

>> No.13993165

>>13990210
>Most of the doom and gloom here is from pajeets and incels
I'm both of those things and I haven't uttered fucking a peep. I hope China hides all the rare earths from you fags.

>> No.13993211

>>13993150
Yes and no. There are LARPers here who manage to guess correctly and then claim they knew all along but the reality is that they just guessed and their bet was right. The only people who truly know what is going to happen are the people who make the events into reality, so I ask you who controls the markets?

Those are the people who know what will happen, we're all just along for the ride. But having a giant think tank filled with NEETs that are bored out of their minds looking for every bread crumb imaginable doesn't hurt either.

>> No.13993231

>>13993211
nigga them dead ass bonds dead ass just hit themselves twice young cracka dead ass somtin gona go on you just jealous wit pickles on the side that som1 shooting near it but it aint bout that cuz it aint who right or how accurate they is dead ass on my mom right now. So i sujest you really be savin that do' ri now and be ready to move on som shit an like choos som meticolous side to keep a eye on for other anons watchin it slow n shit

>> No.13993236

>>13987532
>Ray Dalio
>We're heading into the endgame of a economic supercycle. The only ways out are an actual largescale war,

These are his predictions? Sounds like a leap. The World isn't just a bunch of Venezuelas and Irans and North Koreas

>> No.13993243

>>13988826
Not much. Supply isn't there anymore. Population has steadily increased in the last 20 years and there hasn't been any measurable single family homes built in the heart of most US cities. Yes, they've build fuckloads of meme condos but hardly any detached houses. Anyone who held onward from 2008 has made fuckloads in money

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>>13993136
I won't shill you my bags but I'd diversify into 4-8 coins. At least half or more should be in the top 10.

>> No.13993297

>>13993231
like mothafucka i aint be talkin bout those bonds sheeeeeeeeeeit mothafucka get bonds he not finna get paid nigga you might as well be gettin one of them savings accounts lmaooooooo. look my nigga best be investing in btc eth or link if u ever wan dat wite booty and da gold rims mothafuckas betta kno

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>>13987824
>Look at the list of names buying the shit out of Overstock. Why would big names like Why Morgan Stanley and Black Rock take huge positions in a dying retail company unless they wanted a piece of Medici Ventures?

Those firms bought in long before Overstock became that faded has-been. They got on board before and during the period of time when Overstock was seriously considered a competitor with Amazon, Ebay, and Paypal.

These kinds of ownership positions never get sold off. They ride it all the way to the ground or more likely merger and acquisition.

>> No.13993347

>>13993297
on my real ri now cuz you ain wanna be illiquid too quick an it aint bout some 1 year shit or 2 year shit, this shit finna hit hard like them '08 gon be harr tymes in this bisch FR cause u oughta take in equation them derivates be proppn this bich like a mothfucka so it really finna tunnle harder a wilder animal. name of the game is spaced out average downs bruh

>> No.13993368

>>13992433
we can tell

>> No.13993376

>>13993297
>>13993347
just the fact that you know how to type like that ironically makes you an absolute faggot

>> No.13993382

>>13993347
naw naw naw my nigga we finna get dem ascuizitions from dem cryp exchange n' we finna be able 2 PAY what we OWE for dem hous n sheit with the BITCOIN like zim zoop bop mothafucka a bitcoin gonna get this nigga half a house n 2 years fr gonna scam dem cracks ass pasty ass wrinkle crusted boomie fat fuks wit dem ath in 2021 u know what i mean my nigga they be givin me dem houses for these BAGS fr fr im tellin u its like that gold shit but in the computer or sumtin idk mothafuckin AI gold

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>>13993376

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>>13987989
Again, Overstock merely accepted bitcoin as payment for t-shirts early on, when it was more meme than currency. They weren't "in the forefront" so much as just grasping at straws in a competitive marketplace.

The only thing that makes Overstock interesting is the CEO who is styled as a sort of Steve Jobs / Elon Musk / Jeff Bezos who never quite pulled it off but remains interesting because he did have success at one time and is a hand-on in-control type. Those types (mentioned above) will always stand out in a crowded field.

Right now the crypto personalities are coming out. Justin Sun and Craig Wright come to mind. Sadly, they are not of sufficient character to put them in rogue visionary league- they're in the creepy narcissist / opportunists league. This is a public relations disaster for crypto, which was way cooler when it was just a story about a mystery. Now its a bunch of shills and nerds talking about how many transactions can I do, how many nodes, going 1000x, hey, look at me, I'm cool.

>> No.13993396

>>13993368
Of course you can tell, I literally told you.

>> No.13993408

>>13988098
>I have a greater chance at creating wealth and crypto going up 100x than I do buying gold at the pawn shop.

I hate gold as much as the next person but desu hedging in crypto is insane. Gold has been around 1000000 years and Bitcoin's famous for losing 95% of its value on a regular basis

>> No.13993410

>>13990239
what are we supposed to do instead? Build it ourselves?

>> No.13993425

>>13987223
guns and ammo
shiny metal will be worth nothing compared to lead that will save your life

>> No.13993448

>>13993382
Nigga i caint even get a xrp witout giving a drop of blood to them mothafuckas we like to think we on some accerlation shit but this som still inward wizard shit to em wiy crackas, crypto ain even got a tril in circulation it gon be damnation in 2 years but aint no adoption that quick esp on som high warrant shit like houses wit niggas dyin on them streets? shit gonna have heat on them, real ass ri now. real heat. u aint wana be on som project for too long you feel?

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>>13988667
Heres an old-fashioned idea. Work for money .

>> No.13993481

>>13988826
This. Why build homes when you can just throttle supply and jack the price? We didn't become a rentier economy overnight. It was a process controlled by secular business interests.

>> No.13993506

>>13993448
nigga u trippin if u tink for 1 second that them big noses gonna let dis cash cow go under like dat i mean i got mags up for dayz but i aint gonna catch no heat from no crackas still i mean fr this shit INTERNATIONAL nigga dont tink those pasty ass yellow mothafuckas aint gonna scoop up them cheap crips they be all over dat like a nigga on dat new kfc $5 meal box

>> No.13993519

>>13991785
is craig really working on BSV tokens?

>> No.13993528

>>13987396
For the past month or so there's been more talk of institutional takeup of BTC on Bloomberg and CNBC, no BCH or BSV to my knowledge.

>> No.13993534

>>13993382
Fuck, why do I find bix nood posting so funny.

>> No.13993540

>>13987254
This desu. I want everything to burn and start over.
Also want to buy a house for dirt cheap, fuck the kikes making living impossible for everyone.

>> No.13993549

>>13987180

>millennials flipping homes
>normies in crypto

Dude, if you're this clueless you should stay away from all markets since you're literally going to lose everything.

>> No.13993559

>>13993506
to each they own in this shit but imma do me you do you ima still be ou rr here lookn out fr my niggas

>> No.13993570

>>13988081
This. There is no way in fuck bitcoin is going down in a crash. Gold always goes up in a crash and bitcoin is digital gold. Not sure about shitcoins though.

>> No.13993579

>>13988126
Short the market with long term puts?

>> No.13993584

>>13988155
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/05/30/how-billionaires-are-buying-up-bitcoin/#3b0304da208c

https://www.chepicap.com/en/news/10053/how-will-the-launch-of-fidelity-in-crypto-affect-the-bitcoin-market-.html

>> No.13993719

>>13990574
Yeah im sure life in venezuela is just grand right now. Or mexico or syria.

You dont want to be getting shot at, no matter how heavily armed you are

>> No.13994013

>>13992939
cool story bro

>> No.13994066
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It never really had a chance.

>> No.13994234

>>13988675

People who work in finance don't look that way.

>>13991958

Again you are making the strong assumption that wealth from the financial markets would flow to crypto in the event of a crisis which is unlikely. Also governments don't create money the banking system does through the Fed.

>> No.13994311

>>13994066
what about liberland? You're right. It never stood a chance. But if you can make your own sovereign nation you can deploy anything you want right?

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>>13987180
>worlds ending!!! zomg!!!
>most inversions meant literally fucking nothing
>correlation=/=causation
im screencapping all of these retarded threads for when we are hitting ath's every day again

>> No.13995284

>>13995072
i dont see anyone itt saying that inversion causes recessions, only that they can be a decently accurate sign that trouble is around the corner.
also, your pic actually shows the same thing: after every inversion, recession seems to happen

>> No.13995305

>>13987180
Commerzbank is also in trouble, they try to hide it by saying that its just IT Problems but they have liquidity problems.

>> No.13995456

>>13995284
phoneposting, but thats not true.80s and 90s had no recessions. The early 80s actually marked the beginning of a new bull market after the market had gone sideways for 10 years. 90s had a correction, but all the losses were recouped quickly and then far exceeded. We needed a 10 year consolidation phase after the insanity that was the bull market from the 80s-00s

see further; https://www.tradingview.com/chart/SPX/WvrVLq1w-Onward-and-upwards/

>> No.13995539

>>13988667
Roam the wastelands with your gang of mutant wolf riders, obviously.

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>>13990616

>> No.13995612

>>13987345

the dream... I listen to that lyrics again and agian

https://dump.video/gDytPw

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>>13995456
wtf do you think the shaded areas in your pic mean? pic related if youre too dense to figure it out yourself.
even in your link its obvious that s&p went from ~150 to ~100 in 1980 (-30%), dow went from ~1000 to ~700 (also -30%). in 1983 dow went from ~1300 to ~1000 (-24%).
if you think that stock market index loosing 30% of its value in only a few months is nothing, you should get your head checked. these arent your regular shitcoins where +-30% a day happens regularly.

>> No.13996505

>>13987180
>magic money
mathematical money you mean

>> No.13996588

>>13988155
https://news.bitcoin.com/after-the-boss-calls-bitcoin-a-fraud-jp-morgan-buys-the-dip/

Big banks have been taking notice

>> No.13996653

>>13987597
>Own real assets & real companies. Avoid fixed income like the plague, and a small amount of gold if you want to improve risk adjusted returns.
So how the hell do you take advantage of the crash then if you are not holding CASH?

>> No.13996701

>>13987180
Lol, I played the smart move by being absolutely broke and moving to Japan.

My inheretance is probably fucked, hopefully my dad and auntie can shift grandad's house before too long

>> No.13996732

>>13988667
The only thing left would be cash

>> No.13996749

>>13989269
FRED rate spreads. Google it.

>> No.13996765

It's fucking CLO's that are going to bring us down. If you follow the money an absolute metric fuckton of these corporate loans are being rolled into these derivatives called CLO's that are traunched and rated. They might as well be mortgages for a buisness too kek. I know that these CLO's will be the spark for what sets things into financial crisis mode this time, however I think it will be the eurozone getting absolutely just'd that turns this into "end of capitalism?" Level headlines.

>> No.13997158

Bump

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>>13987223

No one knows , some would say buy real estate.
Some would say buy bitcoin. Some Gold , some say just cost average on stocks in recession you will get more of it then. Some will say .... just do what you find the best.

IMO the only problem could be deutsche bank here in germany .Plus when interest rates raise a lot of home buyers cant afford the loan anymore , and if they lose their job in the recession ... Could cause a massive housing crash in the EU in general.
Also Italy , Spain and Greece owe Germany tons of billions of Euros because of Target 2 balances.

>> No.13997471

>have $7k
>lose $150
>i knows
>bitcoin will be 9k this week!
>lose 1.2k
how to not be stupid? i had a few good swing trades amongst my bad ones

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>>13987699
>It's naive to assume people will be buying stocks when all of society will lose faith in the stock market as an institution.

lmao , i will glady buy those stocks.
It doesnt matter how shit the institution of the stock market is or what the current prices are.
Stock market doesnt show exactly how a company is doing .
It only represents faggots bid/ask prices , nothing else.
Take Altria for example (tobacco industry) , Stock market value in downtrend , literally everyone tells to quit smoking and bla bla bla , BUT YET they are selling like crazy and their revenue increases. Plus fat dividend rates.
Let those sheeps buy their real estate and pay it off for the next 45 years keeping them chained and enslaved while smoking cigarettes or vaping TOPKEK

>> No.13997922

>>13988667
Red ID won't make it.
Also kneepads

>> No.13997990

>>13987180
we'll still have between 1-3 year bull market before the crash

>> No.13998000

>>13997471
>how to not be stupid?
Judging from your post, it's going to be difficult desu.

>> No.13998244

>>13987180
What should I buy when the next crash peaks?

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>>13987180
Only a sample of 3 (I wish I could see early 80s), but at least on ALL those 3 times, every time this drops below 0, the US goes into recession 1-1.5 years later.

> 10-Year Treasury Constant Maturity Minus 3-Month Treasury Constant Maturity (T10Y3M)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10Y3M
*Shaded areas indicate US recessions.

>> No.13998912

>>13993570
Bitcoin will initially go down in the panic as boomers scramble to get back their precious fiat but ultimately it will rise massively.
Just don't be put off by the initial dump. A lot of retards will be shaken out.

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>>13998000

>> No.13999766

>>13993260
the top 10 only has 3 decent coins...

>> No.13999832

>>13987223
if you have to ask, pay someone a small fee to do it for you.

>> No.14000027

>>13991785
>>13991818
of all the idiots here, BSV subhumans are still the dumbest.

>> No.14000093

>>13996401
just look at a chart of the spx. I know what the grey on the charts mean lol

>> No.14000488

>>13988976
except 2021 is actually the crypto bottom and the start of stock market cash.. you got it backwards, so many will get rekt

>> No.14000516

>>13990143
New Zealand is in terrible shape, the entire economy is built on a housing bubble with a side of people selling lates to each other

>> No.14000535

>>14000516
China did this

>> No.14000670

>>13987180
>Deutsche is about to crash btw
Based boomer dad bought some boomer puts.
Based boomer dad also had some on Fannie Mae.
They expired before it went to 0.
Do based boomer dad a favor and crash soon.

>> No.14001190

>>13988000
Bsv mops the floor with all the above
prepare

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>>13997462
Yeah buy real estate with 10k, great idea. I'm sure this hut will skyrocket in value in years to come

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>>13987180
Why wouldn't this be another 2008

>> No.14002495

>>13987180
Bumpin this thread with no survivors

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>>13987345
> btc pumps to 100k
> rent pumps to 0.05 BTC

>> No.14003476

>>13987180
>Deutsche is about to crash btw.

Bailout...

>> No.14003507

>>13996701

>being absolutely broke and moving to Japan.

How

>> No.14003595

>>13987223
Call options on JUST

>> No.14003661

Also, what direction will BTC go in a crisis? It seems it could go anywhere. Poor people are probably going to stay away because when they lose their house they won't have anything for crypto, but most poor people now don't have anything for speculative assets anyways. I think that if the crisis is bad enough crypto will soar because rich people will use it as a means to shelter money and to transfer it internationally, and because BTC is the most universally robust method of financial storage that has ever existed. Gold can be seized, banks can have bank runs and be insolvent, political turmoil can crash countries which the banks reside, but absolutely fucking nothing can attack the strength of a cryptographic key.

>> No.14004339

Just remember, Australia’s banking laws changed last year?
Don’t you think it’s a planned attack on the people to strip the class ?
Australia’s new banking laws mean, they stripnyou on any money in a banking crisis!!! DB is the nazi banks for all banks

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>>13987597

Bullshit

First Majestic Silver, Hecla Mining, SSR Mining are pretty low. The next crash will take silver to the moon and their revenues will make every broker wet in the night.

I am heavily invested in Hecla, because there is just upside from here.

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>>13987796

ABSOLUTELY THIS!
GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER AND BUY BOOMERS ROCKS.

>> No.14005255

>>13987382
VIX

>> No.14005326

>>13987180
screen cap this

not gonna happen.

if a crash DOES happen, crypto would be the first to die. no need for speculation during a crisis.

>> No.14005417

>>13992939
> being this uninformed about venezuela

>> No.14005454

>>13987382

SQQQ

>> No.14005508

>>13988126

It’s called entering a Short Position, kid.

>> No.14005519

>>13988444

Check

Kek

Anon got Wrecked

>> No.14005543

>>13993081
if it’s an inflationary period, blue chip stocks do well. if it’s a recession without inflation (like the great recession) then there’s not much you can do other than buy the dip.

>> No.14005569

>>13990259

I’m in SQQQ. It’s 3x Leveraged Short Index Fund for the NASDAQ-100.

Had $3,190 paper profit yesterday. Today I have (-$650) paper loss. Tomorrow when the markets continue to tank, it will shoot back up to that $3,190 plus moar. It will be comfy af.

>> No.14005614

>>13995072
What do the negative portions represent? They seem to preceed major recessions.

>> No.14005910

>>14005569
I have a tfsa and Im unable to short or buy puts so honestly thank you for finding me an index and giving a testimonial because I was looking for one

>> No.14007279

>>14004668
Some time ago in a flush of enthusiasm for silver I signed up for Robin Hood and bought a few different silver mining co's... I'm down since then but I'll just HODL. Never really heard anything on /biz/ about that, so that's cool. Thanks anon. I'll go see if Hecla was one of them

>> No.14008101

>>14005614
look at a chart of the spx and tell me we went through a major recession in the early 80s and 90s..

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>>14005614
in case you are too lazy to