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Check this out. The lead developer of Nano, Colin LeMahieu is currently in Europe and attending several meetups, and someone attending took out his smart phone and filmed part of the conference, where Colin is talking about using Nano for FX (Forex) settlements. Nano has sub 1 second transfer times and is free to send, and isn't centralized like XRP/XLM, so I can see why it would be appealing for traders.

See this video here for the leak: https://www.reddit.com/comments/buwvo5

If Nano gets picked up and used for this purpose, even as a simple economic unit of transfer which is instantly converted back and forth between the desired currency, it could easily reach unfathomable levels, $3,000 a single unit each possibly.

>> No.13936885

Can't believe people are still sleeping on this one, Nano is a decentralized competitor to XLM/XRP.

>> No.13936946

>>13936885
Can't believe reddit is still bagholding a gofast coin

>> No.13936999

>>13936946
You can choose to not acknowledge the benefits of a free and instant version of BTC, but the world will move on without you. When there is financial gain to be had, or large amounts of money to be saved, you can guarantee that such an advancement in technology will be utilized. It is simple economics.

>> No.13937181
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Holy shit this is literally going to change the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmOtl9H9su8

>> No.13937301

Lmao plebs. Fantom has cross chain interoperability, smart contracts, faster tx speed than nano. It is literally 1000x better suited for this task than nano.

>> No.13937363

>>13937301
FTM hasn't demonstrated anything outside of testnet yet. Nano is miles ahead in terms of development and adoption. FTM is interesting to me as it is a DAG, but it will never be able to rival the speed of Nano as FTM is supposed to be able to execute functions outside of simple value transfer. Nano is light weight and that is why it will likely be used as a currency. The fact that it is free to use also adds the ability for it to be used in a microtransaction type format, similar to IOTA. Nano doesn't do smart contracts, but the nodes do accept commands and can execute functions, so one could easily program Nano to be sent similar to how a smart contract functions, just via a second layer solution. I am bullish.

>> No.13937421

>>13936999
Feeless transfers are fundamentally a bad idea. At this stage you know this, and you're just shilling your bags like any other sad pageet. Fuck you, fuck your fat mother, and I'm glad your shit was hacked.

>> No.13937464

>>13937421
That is a ridiculous notion, you think the internet would exist in the way that it does today if every website was behind a paywall? You act as if people will not host nodes without a financial incentive, this is foolish and the fact that the network already exists and is stable is counter-evident of your argument.

An exchange Nano was traded on got hacked last year, yes that was unfortunate and is likely why Nano is down 90-95%. Kind of like what happened with Mt. Gox. You know what happened with the price of BTC after that.

>> No.13937750

>>13936649
I was already a nano shill but when they got half a second TX time I went even more in. They have some serious tech in nano. It essentially replaces xrp, xlm, Ltc and other pure currencies except bitcoin.

>> No.13937929

coins that rely on wide normie adoption will NEVER succeed

>> No.13937954

>>13937929
Nano already has succeeded. It settles confirmed transactions in seconds, as of the recent update, even sub 1 second in most cases. It is decentralized and doesn't cost anything to send anywhere on the entire planet. This is revolutionary technology.

>> No.13937972

>>13937750
BSV and the knockoff coins don't stand a chance. BTC will likely always maintain value, but I don't have confidence in the lightning network reaching mainstream adoption. It has too many conditionals for it to work in a streamlined manner. It also isn't free to use.

>> No.13937974

>>13936649
repeat with me
Crypto as a Currency is a meme
write it down 1000 times. Then come back to this thread.

>> No.13937987

>>13936649
>shaving miliseconds off currency trades
TRADES
read it again, TRADES
it doesn't matter if the actual money takes a few minutes or hours to settle but the actual purchase and selling of it which is handled by exchanges and not public blockchains/ledgers

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>>13937972

>> No.13938020

>>13937987
That is a fair point, but as long as these exchanges are sending data on ledgers in their own personal databases, there will be limitations when it comes to exchanges between different services. A decentralized instant settling ledger solves this.

>> No.13938021

This shit is centralized by having validators delegated. Eos is much better. Nano could literally just be an eos token.

>> No.13938046

>>13938021
The delegations are performed by the holders of the currency (proof of stake), they are not validated by a central authority, such as in the case of EOS.

>> No.13938049

>>13937954
and used by literally who

>> No.13938079

Nano is Fantom without smart contracts.

>> No.13938094
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>>13938049
Nano is the 2nd most used currency on the Bitcoin superstore, which allows individuals to purchase from just about any large services that sells for fiat. https://twitter.com/bitcoinsuperst1?lang=en

Amazon, Expedia, Priceline, eBay. It has less fees and there is no wait, so it is the obvious choice of the average consumer. Bitcoin is simply more known, but once upon a time so was AOL.

>> No.13938111

>>13938079
Fantom is currently an unproven version Nano with fees and bloat. It may be used for smart contracts if it proves to be authentic, but it will never be able to compete with the lightweight nature of Nano's protocol.

>> No.13938116

>>13938094
>Nano is the 2nd most used currency on the literally who store
cool

>> No.13938151

>>13938116
The Bitcoin superstore is one of if not the most used ways to purchase things with cryptocurrency m8. When true crypto adoption comes, Nano will be the obvious choice over the Lightning network. Especially with the work Colin and the team are doing to expedite the process of acquiring Nano with fiat. This is not only the next BTC but it is the next Paypal as well.

>> No.13938169

>>13938111
> may use smart contracts if

They have VMs working on testnet today.

The fees are low as fuck but at least guarantee the security of the network. Also funny that what you call bloated will achieve more TPS than nano and settle smart contract in 0.7 seconds

>> No.13938201

>>13938116
https://bitcoinsuperstore.us/

If you want to see all the development happening by individuals in the Nano community, see here: https://nanolinks.info/

The Nano community is strikingly similar to the core BTC community in many ways. This project has real grassroots support and one of the most dedicated teams in the space.

>> No.13938262

>>13938046
EOS works the same way brainlet.

>> No.13938600

>>13938262
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8td7ao/eos_centralized_database_fiasco_victim_prove_its/

>> No.13938662

I lost all my nano to the BitGrail fiasco and have yet to rebuilt.

Fucking WOP Francisco lost it all may he burn in hell.

>> No.13938734

>>13938662
Are you part of the Bitgrail case? There is a victim fund and other reperations being made to those affected. I am sorry for your loss but Nano is still 95% down, you may be able to make it back if the team is able to establish adoption.

>> No.13938747

>>13936649
>$3,000
If Nano were $3000 what would its dominance compared to BTC be?
Think Nano will ever be more dominate than BTC?

>> No.13938801

Nano can't be beat for speed/fees and it's not centralized. Things people actually care about.

The team is finally ready to begin marketing this year, so it would be truly sad for those who miss this boat. It's actually depressing to think about.

>> No.13938884

>>13938747
Nano is currently worth $1.69 each, with a max supply of 133,000,000. This puts the market cap at $225,695,978 USD

If Nano were worth $3,000 each, the market cap would be $399,744,867,000

The current market cap of BTC is $149,489,553,195 USD, and was a bit over $300,000,000,000 USD at its peak.

So, if Nano were to topple BTC, and we return to previous ATH, $3,000 is not unrealistic. And the cryptocurrency market is still in its infancy.

>> No.13938943

We could literally turn this into /ourcoin/, it being at the bottom right now is somewhat equivalent to getting in at ICO prices, only Nano is trusted and tested technology.

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>>13938943
No thanks

>> No.13939019
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>>13938988
FTM is not competition for NANO. FTM can offer unique services if it proves to be working outside of testnet (it hasn't yet), but it will not be able to compete with the low amount of energy Nano uses (0.000112 kWh per transaction). As FTM is going to be executing smart contracts, which require much more data, the speed at which it can operate will always be less than what Nano can do. Also, FTM is not free to send, Nano is. I think FTM is more competition to ETH than it is Nano. Entirely different use cases.

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>>13937464
>You act as if people will not host nodes without a financial incentiv
You literally genuinely don't know what the fees are even for kek

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13939220

>>13936649
>and isn't centralized like XRP/XLM
Wrong. I present to you the Nano poop pill

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13939237

>>13938600
>reddit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the absolute state of Nanolets

>> No.13939236

>>13936649
>someone attending took out his smart phone and filmed part of the conference, where Colin is talking about using Nano for FX (Forex) settlements.

how convenient and TOTALLY organic.

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13939247

>>13939156
What are they for, anon?

>> No.13939249

>>13939156
Care to enlighten me then? I do not see how fees serve to protect the network. They are not needed at all in the case of Nano. Can you prove otherwise?

>> No.13939290

>>13939237
I get my information from multiple sources, because I am not a moron.

>> No.13939376

>>13936649
what if im poor and low credit score so i cant take out a loan. i wanna go all in

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13939379

>dag got pros and cons if you ignore cons
because "they are fast" good luck in the future
>curency coins are DOA and not future of LDT you utech illiterate mongos
>crypto as a currency is a meme
>ANY shitcoin can transfer value fast
>sending 0 and 1s over internet fast is solved in 90s
>NO ONE is going to USE deflaratory asset as fucking currency why would you be "nano pizza guy in 10 years" thats why btc pivoted to "store of value meme"
>so you dont hold nano so you can use it as curency you hold nano in hope it will solve someone elses non existing problem so he needs to buy nano and PAMPS you bags


FUCK NANO RETARDS ARE CANCER

GTFO BACK TO PLEBIT

>> No.13939384

>>13938884
wow, nice info - thanks

>> No.13939579

>>13939379
>crypto as a currency is a meme

>bitcoin is a meme

Why are you even here?

>> No.13939608

>>13939579

I sad "store of value is meme" reading comprehension problems?

I can see you are sub 80iq pleb since you stil think curency is big DLT usecase

>> No.13939652

>>13939608
Currency is the absolute #1 DLT use case, you bitter angry neophyte.

>> No.13939683
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>>13939652

>Currency is the absolute #1 DLT use case, you bitter angry neophyte.

Sub 80iq retard detected
MUHMUH PAMP my bags

>ANY shitcoin can transfer value fast
Problem solved move on noone needs fucking NANO

>> No.13939742

>>13939683
Name another coin that is decentralized and can do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmOtl9H9su8

Protip: You can't.

>> No.13939795

bruh just keep buying
it's like stealing at these prices!!!
(protip it's not you who is doing the stealing when you buy)

>> No.13939812

FANTOM = SCAMTOM Anonymous (ID: giyq/Ug2) 05/31/19(Fri)15:11:49 No.13939499▶>>13939537
Fantom was an ICO scam. They only had a white paper and that was a copy paste of Hashgraph's whitepaper. They lied about having 300,000 TPS (it will have only a few thousand TPS at mainnet). The gook founder doesn't know how to code, and the team were all fake. None of the original team are left. All their partnerships are fake (there is no substance behind them).

The Fantom team also tried to steal money from the 100,000 people who tried to get into their fake public ICO. They sent us a scam email telling us we were accepted and to send ETH to the wrong wallet (their personal wallet).

They begged Andre Cronje to build something for them. Andre has been involved with several other scams like Cryptocurve. Andre Cronje said he is decreasing his blockchain focus. He has stopped committing code for over a month. He doesn't hold any Fantom.

Fantom recently pumped and dumped their token. They used the ETH they raised from ICO to buy back Fantom tokens at the bottom after the price crashed. They then got their team and bots to shill non stop on Twitter to pump the price, and used a wash trading bot to create fake volume. They paid off crypto youtubers like chico crypto who expose scams, to stop them from exposing Fantom as a scam. They sold their tokens at ATH, and stopped shilling, turned off the wash trading bot and let the price free fall so they could buy back at under 100 sats to pump and dump again (around mainnet time in Q3).


Goto 18:38 in this interview with Andre Cronje and listen to him describe Fantom ICO investors as "being robbed":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NacP8UTIoEw&t=891s [Embed]

>> No.13939876
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13939876

>>13939742

NANO IS NOT FUCKING DECENTRALIZED

YOU DONT HAVE TO BE DECENTRALIZED TO SEND MONEY FAST AND FREE

NOONE WANTS NANO WORLD DOES NOT NEED NANO

protip: kys

>> No.13939905

>>13939876
Nano is decentralized you shill. Prove otherwise.

A currency that is not decentralized is subject to being controlled. This is the core tenet on how BTC was founded.

We don't want your kind here, we can smell it a mile away.

>> No.13939928

>>13939812
Andre was talking about the ICO investors who bought at a 40M market cap. His feelings at the time were that these people were buying without even knowing if the team could deliver what was promised. The token model was also switched a few times. They have since settled on a fiat pegged gas token which can only be bought with FTM.

The project has sorted their financing issues since that interview and are on track to deliver what they were aet out to do.

This would be good fud if it wasn't outdated.

>> No.13939958

RAIBLOCKS NANO OH HEY COOL
> INSTALL RAIBLOCKS NODE
> NODE SYNCING
> NODE SYNC FAILED
> talk to developers, oh hey man, yeah node syncing failed
> LISTEN TO THIS BIZ, LEAD DEV COLIN ACTUALLY SAYS THIS

"it can happen that node syncs and gets into a bad state."

> AND GET THIS BIZ other developer chimes in

"its like a disease there was a bad transaction and it spread all nodes with that peer can not sync with the rest of the network, just restart it and manually use this list of approved peers".

THIS IS TOTALLY FINE

>> No.13940091

>>13939905

I didnt shill anything seething bagholder

How is it decentralsied if cicrulating supply is fucked by btg hack, whales and scammy devs?

>> No.13940196

Just read how hard this shill is trying and determined if you are willing to lose your money to a paid pump and dump shill. He does this everyday. Don't waste money in a coin that is dead. Sorry shill but cant stand by while you try to scam people.

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13940251

>>13939290
>fell for reddit EOS FUD
>invested in Nano
>not a moron

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Man I honestly feel bad for people still not in Nano. Does no one remember T's posts from Jan 2018? He predicted btc would drop to 3k (which it did) and he highlighted buying XRB (aka nano).

That isn't the only reason I'm all in, but when you have an elaborate post on biz by a genuinely nice guy that predicted when btc started its bear market, pretty much pinpointing the low, you listen to their advice. Sorry you hate money, biz.

>> No.13941001

>>13940897
yikes buddy if the guy had a crystal ball he'd be a billionaire by now.. he's not a god lmao

nano lacking liquidity. 15M usd 24 hour volume??? that's fucking garbage, Nobody can use nano for utility purposes with such low liquidity.

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>>13940897
here's a fun fact. I sold my 75 Nano for $15 a piece in February 2018. It made up my entire portfolio at the time. Today I could buy about 7,000 Nano if I went all in. I haven't put any fiat in since then. My portfolio is up 32,000% against nano. Thank you for feeling sorry for me though, I appreciate your concern.

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>>13937464
The exchange got hacked, yes, and they worked with the corrupt Nano devs to give them what they had left instead of their users. Nano is a fucking shitcoin

>> No.13941064

>>13938884
imagine coming to financial investment decisions based of this logic.

<if nano were to topple BTC
<were to topple BTC
<topple BTC

where is all that demand going to come from? no instutution is touching this asset with a 1000 foot pole with such low liquidity. A single entitiy can manipulate the market with a current 15M volume.

Dog shit coin.

want fast coin? buy XRP, actual liquidity and normies love it.

>> No.13941110

>>13939247
>>13939249
They are spam protection. If you aren't even aware of this fact don't bother replying, your bleating has no value to me.

>> No.13941126

>>13939237
That’s how I knew mention of eos would send him back to his safe space.

>> No.13941162

>>13941064
you have to go back

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>>13936649
Someone posted yesterday that this was a rumour now it's semi confirmed.

For real though, keep this a secret, /biz doesn't deserve to know about this gem considering most are NPCs about link.

The environmental impact of btc and other coins will become known and soon it will become a problem. Case in point, one btc transaction is slightly more than the average monthly energy consumption in the US. It doesn't take a genius to see this is a problem.

$3000 for a NANO, wow..... I get moist off 1K but this is something else

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>>13941126
Pic related is a 100% eos portfolio. That's the result of doing my own research instead of listening to the kike groupthink on Reddit and /biz/.

Keep coping basedboy

>> No.13941262

>>13940091
Nano is "decentralsied" because no entity owns close to even half of the supply, which would be needed to 51% attack the network. Good luck, I don't think you or anyone you know has the 100 mil to try it. Even if you did, the value would skyrocket as you attempt to reach 51% voting power buying up available nano. It isn't feasible nor would it be profitable.

BTG hack has been dumped, we dropped from $15 to $1. You think the stolen Nano are still in the thief's pocket? Kek. There are not that many whales even, most of the supply is spread out among small owners and on Binance, which is just a collection of all the traders who keep their supply there. Scammy devs, lol, the team is one of the most legit in the space.

>>13940196
I hope the real anon here see how the shills attack. This coin scares the fuck out of them because no shill group will support it, because there was no ICO or pre-mine. As it cannot be mined it also undermines the entire mining industry. Nano = the Donald Trump of cryptocurrency

>> No.13941289

>>13941110
NANO is releasing dynamic proof of work with their V19 release (92% done on the github). This creates on device POW to be done at an increasing rate for actors who are flooding the network. Problem solved, no fees needed.

>> No.13941334

>>13941289
>on device POW
what's stopping me from editing the source code and disabling it? The whole point of PoW is that the entire network has to be able to confirm the proof.

>> No.13941445

>>13941334
The nodes will as they are the ones who are deployed the updates.

>> No.13941458

>>13941289
Hahahahahaaa

Pls tell me this is true and 'fast and feeless' nano reaserching into 'old tech pow' to secure network after all

My ties

>> No.13941490

Nano has gook developers

>> No.13941501

>>13941289
Yawn. I'm gona put them in a big bag with the other soonware "pow killers". Let me know when you knock btc off that top spot lol

>> No.13941519

>>13941445
Nano is going to require every node in the network to do a PoW for every transaction before they can be confirmed? So basically Nano is going to be like bitcoin...?

>> No.13941575

>>13939958
Come on I thought it was commonly known nano devs wear bicycle helmets when they code while a little drool runs out the side of their mouth

>> No.13941612
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13941612

>>13941458
It is a scaling difficulty that will be fed to those sending transactions that are considered spam by the network. The network is still proof of stake, but this is a superior solution than charging fees.

>>13941490
Nano dev team is American and all of them are white

>>13941519
No, read again. Dynamic proof of work. It only occurs in the case of spam or heavy transaction load, and the POW will be specific to the device which if creating the load, letting legitimate transactions through without needing to utilize any POW. It is a genius solution, far superior to taxing every transaction on the network which would inhibit its ability for it to be used for microtransmitters.

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13941636

>>13941575
Colin is the biggest chad in the space.

>> No.13941802

>>13941612
>No, read again. Dynamic proof of work. It only occurs in the case of spam or heavy transaction load, and the POW will be specific to the device which if creating the load, letting legitimate transactions through without needing to utilize any POW. It is a genius solution, far superior to taxing every transaction on the network which would inhibit its ability for it to be used for microtransmitters.
So then why can't one person or organization with a lot of resources bog down the entire network indefinitely, considering it would cost nothing in terms of fees?

Also why do they all look like they suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome except for the token female?

>> No.13941844

>>13941802
Because as soon as they start broadcasting multiple transactions per second the rate at which they can send will be throttled and POW will need to be performed by them while those who are not performing this many transactions stay on the freeway without any lag, slowdown, or POW needing to be performed by their device.

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>>13941802
Look like solid devs to me.

>> No.13941903

>>13941844
But you can create an infinite number of new accounts. You're only limited by the computing power available to you.

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>>13941903
If the system is still subject to attack after V19 release (92% done), I am sure that will be next on the devs list. I am not a dev so I do not know the inner workings, but the current version changes are being designed around this very such issue. I have total faith in the team, they have not steered me wrong and continue to develop the project and are currently networking to make the needed relationships happen. Pic related.

http://appia.co/

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>>13937464
Sure, ISPs are janitors providing internet connection for free
ffs

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>>13941938
>If the system is still subject to attack after V19 release (92% done), I am sure that will be next on the devs list
So in other words it's not a valid solution and it solves nothing. Also, what do you do if you're a bank or Amazon or something and you actually need to "spam" the network in order to run your business efficiently? Do you realize that even without this shitty spam "protection" feature, the network's speed will always be limited to what it is now on account of the inherent inefficiencies of non-linear DAG networks?

>they have not steered me wrong
Bullshit. Nano has fucked over its investors not only by directing people to a scam exchange so that they could continue cashing out, but also by dumping on everyone and completely killing the market.

>> No.13942054

>>13941903
>But you can create an infinite number of new accounts. You're only limited by the computing power available to you.
>>13941938
>I am sure that will be next on the devs list.
kek

>> No.13942080

>>13941985
ISPs are different than hosting a node, which can be done for as little as $5.00 a month. It isn't difficult, the entire internet was built off of people hosting websites for free. The internet did not start out with e-commerce, it started out with people who loved something and put their heart and soul into sharing it with the world.

>> No.13942166

>>13941988
Feel free to eat your words after the V19 release. If you need to utilize multiple transactions per second, then POW will need to be performed. The network is only limited by hardware, and using some of the cheaper options available it is quite resilient already. Nano currently is sent anywhere on the planet in 2 or less seconds time. I am okay with that speed, I don't know of a single decentralized competitor that comes close. As Nano only sends the bare minimum (0.000113 kWh energy per tx), it is the least bloated of any of its competition, and this will further keep the network fast and efficient, as it will not be hosting cryptokitties type jobs with needless data being sent back and forth.

That is a bullshit conspiracy and you know it. Zack Shapiro had no idea that Bitgrail got hacked. It was an unfortunate situation. Much like Mt. Gox. See Roger Ver making the same mistake. It happens and is a real fucking shame, but it did not kill BTC, and it will not kill NANO either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1YsMlrfF0

>> No.13942307
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>>13942166
> If you need to utilize multiple transactions per second, then POW will need to be performed.
If you're going to use PoW to prevent spam, then you aren't going to be able to have high through-put for legit use cases. If you can have high through-put for legit cases, then you can't prevent spam. It's a complete joke of a solution.

>Nano currently is sent anywhere on the planet in 2 or less seconds time. I am okay with that speed, I don't know of a single decentralized competitor that comes close.
EOS is more decentralized and has half-second block times.

>That is a bullshit conspiracy and you know it. Zack Shapiro had no idea that Bitgrail got hacked
SURE buddy. I'm sure he wasn't part of the mysterious few who were still allowed to withdraw their Nano while withdrawals were closed for everyone else. Anyone who was paying attention at that point knew an exit was right around the corner. It was a joke in discord how using Bitgrail was basically playing Russian roulette. And yet the nano website still had them listed right up to the end.

malice? incompetence? I don't know which is worse.

>> No.13942371

Nano... kek. Might as well call it "Reddit: The Coin"

>> No.13942644

>>13942371
le based comeback, have an upboat XD

>> No.13942749

>>13942307
It will not be difficult to identify low priority transactions as opposed to authentic transactions, be it based on rate output or simply value sent, the right algorithms solve this and we are currently at 92% completion for this change, so we shall see first hand within the coming weeks.

EOS is a glorified cloud server.

You have no proof or evidence that the Nano team were the ones withdrawing the stolen Nano from that exchange. That accusation is ridiculous and has not been proven or even demonstrated to have occurred. An Italian court took this case and found Bitgrail responsible for the hack, due to faulty implementation of their exchange. Just like Mt. Gox. I wish I would have bought BTC at $200 when that happened. I even thought about it too.

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>>13942307
If anything it was Franco Bomber Firano who withdrew the Nano when withdrawals were closed. He was the exchange owner and the one found guilty of negligence. He tried threatening the Nano team when he 'learned' of the hack.

>> No.13942888

>>13942166
If its free to run as many nodes as possible and you dont get consequences of being a bad actor than explain It to me anon, how do you protect the network from a sybil attack?

>> No.13942925

>>13942888
Nodes are delegated in a proof of stake manner, so wallet holders and investors vote with their nano who gets to represent the network. A node must have 0.01% of the networks weight in order to be broadcast. Therefore there will be at max 1000 nodes with the current configuration, that can be easily changed when needed if bad actors appear.

>> No.13942943

>>13942925
Err, its actually 0.1%, or 1/1000th of the networks weight

>> No.13943336

>>13942749
>It will not be difficult to identify low priority transactions as opposed to authentic transactions, be it based on rate output or simply value sent,
Confirmed for low IQ. You could literally just send large transactions to your own wallets in a loop.

>EOS is a glorified cloud server.
The reddit is strong in this one. At least EOS is an actual blockchain and had a built-in way of electing consensus nodes, unlike nano. My assessment has been proven correct based on my portfolio performance: >>13941240

>You have no proof or evidence that the Nano team were the ones withdrawing the stolen Nano from that exchange.
I didn't say they were the ones stealing it. I said they were dumping their bags on you suckers and cashing out while letting you all take the fall. Reading comprehension is your friend.

>> No.13943501

>>13943336
The network could be configured to identify repeating loop transactions and limit them. You act like because we can post on 4chan for free, that the board will be nothing but spam. There is spam, but it is still free to post. I consider that to be superior to paying to perform a function. And look, if the system thinks I am spamming, it makes me do a little bit of POW in the form of a captcha.

The very way nodes are selected with NANO is via a voting consensus mechanism, as explained above

You can believe what you want about the team, but they have continued to deliver and clearly care about this project. Just look at the V19 Github alone: https://github.com/nanocurrency/nano-node/milestone/9

>> No.13943598

>>13943501
>be large e-commerce company
>suddenly the super smart Nano algorithm decides that your transactions are spam
>rate limited to hell
>business becomes inoperable for foreseen future
>billions of dollars down the drain
>thisisthefutureyouchose
Yeah no one is every going to risk a scenario like this. There are no good solution to spam attacks on a feeless system that don't also potentially cripple the network.

>> No.13944649

>>13943598
Obviously a super large company could be whitelisted, you are just trying to make excuses now for why you do not think this will work. Face it, this is the future.

>> No.13944752

>>13944649
Wow this keeps getting better. So a """decentralized""" network is going to have a whitelist? Ignoring the fact that this is literally the most retarded idea yet that completely throws the whole point of having a decentralized ledger out of the window, who maintains it? who does the vetting? Who verifies the account owners? How long does it take if someone wants to change their wallet or add a new one?

>> No.13944816

>>13942749
>It will not be difficult to identify low priority transactions as opposed to authentic transactions
This has to be satire

>> No.13944848

>>13936649
one day 1 nano coin will be worth 100000000000000000 LINK coin

>> No.13944854

>>13943598
think about how often your email account misidentifies spam today. almost never.
just because you're a retard doesn't mean everyone else is.

>> No.13944868

>>13944854
That comparison has absolutely no technical validity. Also my spam filter is not 100% perfect, which it would need to be in order for billion dollar companies to risk their entire business on.

>> No.13945450

>>13944752
You just keep on making assumptions and creating problems that don't exist. This hypothetical situation would likely never even have to occur, but should it I do not see why it would be the worst thing in the world. The network is still decentralized and free to use, the difference between being flagged as spam or not would likely only be seconds anyways.

>> No.13945540

>>13945450
>hurrrr there is no problem everything will b fine
I've engineered decentralized networks. This shit is not nearly as easy as you're pretending it is, and there are an incredibly large number of ways things can go wrong.

>> No.13945635

>>13945540
Time will tell. I have my money where my mouth is.

>> No.13945711

>HOLY FUGG MY SANIC COIN IS REBOLUTIONARY THIS IS TRUE CURRENCY ADOPTION

Lmao. NANO holders are like 5 years behind in this market. No one cares about using a fast coin to buy a hotdog on the street of Mumbai.
The strength of dlt/blockchain is SECURITY in finacial transactions. OMG FAST SPEED INSTANT TRANSACTION is just a soiboi marketing gimmick to make brainlets excitied. Fukkin nano holders. Get fucked.

>> No.13945751

>>13945711
You say there is no security, yet you cannot demonstrate otherwise. I wonder why that may be.

>> No.13945796

>>13945751
It's crazy how hard you try. Guarantee this is the same guy a month ago who was spaming about how nano is the worst currency. Same fucking speech pattern. Paid shill, spewing shit. Take notes ladies and gentlemen so you dont lose money.

>> No.13946729

>>13939379
i still use bitcoin from time to time. I bought a 4chan pass the other day with bitcoin. Its used a currency bro.

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Just bought a small stack of 100 nanners. This thing is fast and it really does matter. I waited 12 hours for a BTC transaction today because I didnt want to pay 3 dollars in fees. This is fucking retarded. People keep talking about lightning network. WHERE THE FUCK IS IT?! Ive been waiting 5 years for this fucking network. Its already out for a year and nobody supports lightning. Not exchanges, not wallets, not ledger nano, nothing. FUCK BTC. Im going to be buying nano until BTC gets its shit together.

>> No.13947000

I'll only ask 1 thing, how heavy are those bags?

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>>13936649
>47 posts by this ID
Yikes!
Not buying your shitcoin, Colin

>> No.13947104

>>13946970
You’re a fucking idiot.
>>13947050
kek OP eternally bagholding