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women CEOs only hope against rising bear

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For previously:
>>13888991

>> No.13895207

Uhhhh oil has to go back up sometime right?

Need the Persians to chimp out real quick

>> No.13895209
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What are we buying today?

>> No.13895216

>>13895209
helium masks

>> No.13895217
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WAAAAAAAAY too early
Have some gossamer patience!

>>13895088
Nice digits, mediocre post

>>13895084
The more you say, the less weight your words carry. Eventually you’ll be talking about Lord Xenu and numerology and your prophet Qanon.

>>13895098
I just shorted at session lows. I’m clearly bad at this, I just accidentally daytraded McDonald for 10 cent profits. Fuggin stupid stupid. You probably made the right choice.

>>13895119
Ror-poster confirmed pleb

>> No.13895219

>>13895209
SPY long 30 years

>> No.13895223
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>>13895209
VIX, Gold, BTC, Yuan and AMD

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>>13895179
YIELD IS INVERTED AHHHHHH WE'RE GOING TO ZERO

SPY TO 0 CONFIRMED AHHHHHHHHH

Remember to max your IRA.

>> No.13895245

Big recession when? I wanna see rivers of blood and few weeks of pink wipe in /biz.

>> No.13895249

>>13895179
>Me go on vacation
NUUUUUUU
who gonna grab the bear by the balls with no Rude Killer Gril?!

Have fun bbgrl. going anywhere good?

>> No.13895254
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*ahem* Settle down, muhfuggus
CHECK CHECK
CAP THE NASDAQ IN THE DICK
BITCH MA WALLET GETTIN THICC
S&Ps TRADIN LIKE A BITCH
BULLKEKS FINNA FLINCH

>> No.13895256

>>13895209
Amazon, Warren Buffet style
hodling for 20 years until amazon has world domination

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Welp. S&P gonna bust below the 200 day moving average or no? It's poking it right now.

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>>13895217

>> No.13895271

>>13895223
I'll buy AMD when it bottoms out again and I sell my puts, everything else you listed I already have besides yuan.

Any big brand name cheapies? Shot caller where you at?

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>>13895265
>>13895245
Before the end of 2019.

>> No.13895353

Still lmaoing @ bitch bois who shorted the bottom in December

>>/biz/thread/S12256663#p12257481
>>/biz/thread/S12223318#p12223737
>>/biz/thread/S12160092#p12161232

>> No.13895373

U.S. is threatening penalties against the financial body created by Germany, the U.K. and France to shield trade with Iran from U.S. sanctions.

I hope Europe doesn't back off.

>> No.13895390

Congrats to the guy holding SDOW from yesterday

>> No.13895394

> Russia is likely conducting low-yield nuclear tests in a push for new warheads, defying a test-ban treaty, a new U.S. intelligence assessment finds

> Russia has likely been secretly carrying out very low-yield nuclear tests to upgrade its nuclear arsenal, according to a new U.S. intelligence assessment, challenging Moscow’s claims that it is faithfully adhering to an international treaty banning nuclear tests.

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1133721378484621312

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you fucks convinced me to close my puts when it started its recovery and now fucking look at it

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>making money shorting the markets while the world burns slowly

I didn't think it would feel like this

>> No.13895420

>>13895402
>listening to biz

>> No.13895422

SQQQ
O
X
SDOW

>> No.13895433
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>Don't say we didn't warn you...

>> No.13895438

>>13895265
200 sma penetrated

>> No.13895439

Why is AMD falling?

>> No.13895453
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"Mutual funds invested in assets like bonds and property should alter their pricing under stressed conditions in order to halt “fire sales” like those witnessed after the Brexit vote and protect long-term customers, according to a paper from the UK’s financial watchdog."

"The occasional paper, published on Wednesday, threw its weight behind the “swing” and “dual” pricing employed by bond funds suffering high outflows, which it said worked to “significantly reduce redemptions...during stress periods” and stopped investors stampeding for the door."

"The research follows growing concerns from regulators about the way mutual funds invested in hard-to-sell assets like bonds and commercial property cope when large volumes of investors try to sell at once, as witnessed in the wake of the UK’s Brexit vote in 2016 and after the 2008 financial crisis. "

https://archive.fo/KjJpv

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Yo
Bulls sweaty, pumps weak, loans are heavy
There's margin call on TSLA already, mom's spaghetti
Tpump nervous, but on the surface he looks old and ready
To drop bombs, but he keeps on forgettin'
What he spoke about when the whole crowd was loud
He opens his mouth, but "Stop wars" words won't come out
He's orange, how, everybody's jokin' now
The clocks run out, times up, cover, now!
Snap back to reality, oh there goes gravity
Oh, there goes tariffs, he imposed on his allies
He's mad, but he won't give up that easy? No
He won't have it, he knows his whole country is broke
It don't matter, he's dope, he knows that, but he's blocked

>> No.13895463

>>13895402
We’ve told you time and time again, this is the beginning of the Greater Depression.

>> No.13895466

>>13895454
Can't wait to make smug bull posts again like I did the whole time in December

>> No.13895469
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FBI special counsel is closed. Trump 2024 confirmed. Long the markets. Short the big tech globohomos.

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>>13895453
> "Last year the watchdog launched a consultation into new rules for open-ended funds investing in illiquid assets, including recommending that commercial property and infrastructure funds could be forced to halt trading if there was uncertainty around the value of at least 20 per cent of their portfolios. "

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Bullfags seething

>muh cheapsies
>b but it always goes upp r right?

>> No.13895484

>>13895179
Welcome to /smg/, where we make new threads at 290 or 400.

>> No.13895486
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>NRZ
Finally taking a nice little hit...
Anyone know of any other high divvy REITS taking a beating?

JNJ is finally getting down to December crash+talc levels!

Why the FUCK did I buy MMM?! We’re finally getting ACTUAL JNJ cheapies, I bought this because it was a bargain JNJ-analog. Stupid dummy...

>>13895390
It was very few shares, I bought a lot more before mueller spoke. I think I got too greedy.

I sextupled my shares... and it hasn’t moved much since.

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this is the bottom

i can feel it

>> No.13895500

>>13895217
Ror!
>let us transfer even more tax dollars to low value people
>from the few demographics who actually contribute net tax
It's a good way to keep the poor poor

>> No.13895507

>>13895463
Fine I'll open another few puts.

>> No.13895525

>>13895454
A little bit of refinement and this could make for a good animated youtube vid.

>> No.13895527

I'm look at these september $225 striked puts on the SPY, would this be a good investment?

>> No.13895530

24,995.65

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Where is Dobber now? This mf is about to loose half of his portfolio.

>> No.13895542
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Has this analyst completely missed that they have gone fucking south weeks ago?

How fucking dumb do these people think nomires are

>> No.13895563

>>13895500 (double dubs!)
I don’t like the things you say, but I’ll defend to the death checking repeating digits.

People on the bottom SPEND money. Stimulates the economy. Often spend on cheap foodstuffs that are almost exclusively American because of how heavily we subsidize agrobusiness. But also on shit like their kids lunches and the doctor’s appointments they’ve been avoiding.

Believe it or not, what’s good for McDonald’s and Merck is good for America.

(I wish they’d spend more on cowboy cigarettes though. I love you Smokey joe!)

>> No.13895570

>>13895439
Everything's falling.

>> No.13895585
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is this the rate cut

>> No.13895593

>>13895486

>It was very few shares, I bought a lot more before mueller spoke. I think I got too greedy.
>I sextupled my shares... and it hasn’t moved much since.

Bold move mate. The thing is with drops, you need to have them in place before the big moves to get the easy profits.

Momentum is on your side for now, but the further you go down in a short amount of time, the higher the chance it's going to spike back up on you.

Think of the market as a compressed spring.

>> No.13895596

>>13895353
You're insane if you don't think we're going lower than December

>> No.13895607

FREE FALL
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>> No.13895611
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Controlled descent fampai

>> No.13895612
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What's the point of CAT?

Their only customers are mining and construction. Neither cares what brand of truck they drive, not to mention both are dead industries.

>> No.13895613

Anybody eyeing Dollar General earnings tomorrow?

>> No.13895631

Goddamn

>> No.13895644
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>>13895563
Sure. But what are you doing in reality? You're subsidizing. Youre subsidizing bottom tier consumer spending and people by transferring the money earned by people who contribute to the pot. You get more of what you subsidize, and sorry to say comfort is not the father of innovation.

>> No.13895655

>>13895596

There's still opportunity cost m8

You could have made a lot of money until now if you went long at Christmas

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>> No.13895696

>>13895596
I was watching that broad from The Story interview Steve Bannon and he said the economy is better than ever, and that the only reason it's down is because of the margins.

>> No.13895698

This guy Mueller is a treasonous cunt

Opens his deep state mouth and tanks the market what a fucking prick

>> No.13895699

>>13895563
Frivolous spending is not what drives the economy. More people saving their money and creating wealth through productivity is what stimulates the economy, not debt.

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Ror! I'm up .6% as of rn! Everything is green except my s&p mutual fund. Back to the battlefield!

>> No.13895705

>>13895585
seriously what is going on in the bond market?

>> No.13895707

>>13895687
Wow that’s deep

>>13895644
Unironically a good post

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>>13895687
This is usually true accept when the fucking recession and whatnot.

>> No.13895738

If Hillary or any other republican was president, we’d be at SPY $300 months ago

I can’t wait for this fat piece of shit to be out of office

>> No.13895741

>>13895700
Maids are much better with guns holy shit. When are we going to give every kid in america a rifle for christmas?

>> No.13895751

>>13895563
>Merck is good for America

CEO of Merck lives in a small town 10 minutes from where I live (Seeheim, Germany) and drives a fucking Bugatti Chiron

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Damn plug, what happened? Looks like I might get my wish of plug cheapies

>> No.13895774

>>13895644
>bottom tier consumer spending
The best tier. Higher income consumers are more likely to stuff their money in the bank, buy financial instruments like bonds, or make large foreign purchases/investments. These aren’t the people who get bailed out for making bad investment decisions or lose money buy sinking American dollars into Venezuelan debt.

People aren’t going to be “comfortable” with an extra $1000 dollars a month. People aren’t going to quit their jobs with an extra $1000 a month. Yang’s UBI reforms make a lot of sense. Especially when you consider the $1000 is INSTEAD of welfare or other benefits, you have to choose one or the other.

I’d rather get $1000 and continue working/schooling/looking for a job, etc. If I were physically disabled, I’d rather get welfare money, and people getting UBI wouldn’t effect me.

The rich are getting that $1000 as well, but it makes a big difference for those at the bottom. Maybe use the tariff money, since the US consumers are the ones getting punished anyways.

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>>13895741
Ror!

>> No.13895785

>>13895563
>People on the bottom SPEND money.
On rent, groceries and paying down debts (jk on that last part, that's why they're poor.) Middle class boomers are the ones who blow all their money on shit. If you want to stimulate the economy the lazy way just give boomers an extra 20k a year. They'll instantly add another mortgage on their home with payments equal to 20k a year and blow all of that money on boats, golf clubs, Pearl necklesses and steakhouses.

>> No.13895788

>>13895705
You best start believing in recessions..

>> No.13895809

>>13895612
They also have farming equipment don't they? The world is going to need a lot more wheat in the future. Who's got the best automated farming equipment these days anyway?

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>>13895788

>> No.13895825

>>13895705
For some unbeknownst to me reason, US treasury market is not reflecting the stock market signal, but inverse of it (betting against it)

>> No.13895829

Mother fucker it's recovering again, fuck this I"m getting some VIX shorts.

>> No.13895853

Wish I had screenshotted the post I made on this topic but this is almost 1 for 1 exactly what I was predicting.

>A U.S. banking regulator on Wednesday said it was seeing trouble in the farm sector as commodity prices fall and that some banks were reporting a deterioration in the quality of their agricultural loans during the first three months on the year.

>“We are seeing some emerging strain,” Diane Ellis, the director of the insurance and research division at the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, said at a news briefing. “Mostly it affects our community banks in the middle of the country.”

>In a quarterly report on the health of U.S. banks, the FDIC said the share of agricultural loans at community banks that were at least 90 days past due or in non-accrual status rose to 1.28% in the first quarter, the highest level since the third quarter of 2011.

>Ellis said strain has been building for years in the farm sector as commodity prices have fallen. Ellis noted that farm incomes were about half their levels from six years ago.

>Commodity prices have also been hit over the last year by a U.S.-China trade war which has sparked higher Chinese tariffs on U.S. agricultural exports.


This could very well be the trigger for the next recession. Prepare for a string of rural community banks failing this year.

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>>13895829
why are you falling for short term manip every time?

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>>13895774
Ror!
>Implying banks arent giving out loans and stimulating productivity with that money
>implying investing in a business isnt stimulating economic activity
You wont be able to get rid of welfare programs just like that. Would require votes, and people vote individualistically now. No, in a real implementation it would be in addition to current welfare. Another step toward more government power and massive socialism when so many are dependent on this welfare. And what will they ultimately do with this money? Same thing they do with their money now.

Punishing contributors and rewarding (in this case subsidizing) sloth is not a good way to run a nation.

>> No.13895871

>>13895734
>no dick

Terrible picture

>> No.13895891

>>13895855
lol this isn't manip, when it bounces up like this the second one is way stronger and longer than the first. We're going back up, i've been doing this for a while now, and I can tell when the market is going to rally up.

>> No.13895895

The President is quickly losing my re-election vote.

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>up 18% today from AMD puts
Thanks for the shekels goyim
What's my next trade?

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Just entered long on Altria.

Waiting until power hour for some clarification on S&P's disposition. Sitting out in cash for now...

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>>13895895
lol he'll be in jail by then

>> No.13895943

Buyers moving in, probably going to see a large bump now..

Marginal red finish IMO.

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>>13895942
>wrong again baggie

>> No.13895991

>>13895909
All in LCI calls

>> No.13895998

>>13895863
when interest rates are this low, loans are just as easily used to prop up unprofitable zombie firms, thus dragging down productivity.

>> No.13896012

>>13895853
shit forgot link
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-farms-fdic/u-s-banking-regulator-monitoring-farm-loan-strains-idUSKCN1SZ1NA?il=0

>> No.13896016

>>13895998
Also true desu. But you have no point. Nor are you contributing

>> No.13896019

>I couldn't find evidence of innocence

Well shit, here I was thinking investigations are supposed to find evidence of GUILT and use that evidence to enforce the law. A gigantic fucking nothing burger as always

>> No.13896024

>>13895998
>when you realize that majority of sp500 companies are unprofitable zombie companies...

>> No.13896035

>>13895998
it also removes private credit from the market for government credit

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>>13895785
Yeah, rent and groceries, things that are part of the US economy. Not vacation homes in Sicily and shit. Why the fuck would we want boomers buying more of those luxury goods and foreign shit?

>>13895751
...Bugatti is an american automaker, r-right?!
>living that close to France, Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium
Fucking hell that's so cool. Swiss countryside/landscape is so beautiful.

and Lichtenstein?! I want some rich and quiet tiny country with beautiful architecture and museums and shit like that...

>>13895926
Who is this gun nut poster? Ratty?
Please smoke MO, turn it around
>tfw average purchase price $51.10

>> No.13896043

>>13896016
are you deliberately being obscure to support your bullshit bullish case?

>> No.13896055

>>13896024
>citation needed
Companies have debt to expand more quickly than normal. They can still be profitable and in debt.

>> No.13896080

Considering start buying MMM now
The amount of despair posting in the threads is reasonable

>> No.13896096

Time for LCI to climb out of the shitter, justpushed another drug out the door

>> No.13896102

>>13895926
>Altria
You must have balls of steel! I'm considering buying some too,but I'd rather have some zoomer&boomer mix that sells ecigs and cigs with a 50/50 ratio.

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>>13896043
>talking about UBI
>gimmie talking about low interest rates
>mild connection because subsidizing, tho UBI subsidizes poor people and low interest rates subsidize economic production
He has no point. He did not contribute to the conversation. Ror!

>> No.13896110

>>13896016
just pointing out that saving and loans aren't good thing for the economy in of itself. In fact, over-accumulation is the whole basis for periodic crisis in capitalism.

>> No.13896121

>>13895853
Yea the flooding is forcing farmers into closing up shop. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to realize that banks are going to get rekt. And 20bn in farm aid won't help with rising food prices either.

>> No.13896123

Also to the people yesterday who offered advise after I made a post about investing my rent money, it was just a shitpost, but thank you for your advise non the less

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Give it to me straight lads

Is America going into recession or not?

>> No.13896142

>>13896041
>Yeah, rent and groceries, things that are part of the US economy.
Things that are part of the US economy that pay a single landlord or provide a multitude of sub livable wages you mean. You're not going to get anywhere that way.

>> No.13896151

>>13896135
Yes in 2021

>> No.13896159

>>13896121
Exactly. Crop failure and diminished planting will wreck farmers even with higher prices, and the higher prices from trump's aid and lower yields will wreck everyone else.

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>>13896102
>You must have balls of steel!

Eh. I like to gamble.

>> No.13896200

>>13896135
Yes. I say within a year even.

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>ITT

>> No.13896228

Do I bet that tomorrow is green?

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>>13896110
Agreed partially. Too much hoarding is no bueno. Must give. Lend and invest and spend. This leads to more producing. This leads to more things for consuming. Which leads to higher quality of life.

>> No.13896253

13896220
>1 poster
No (you) for u. Shoo.

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>>13896220
STOP THINKING AND BUY IT NYA

>> No.13896278

>>13895895
>oh no stocks are down because of trump!! this is all his fault! nevermind the market is up over 40% since he was elected, and he started at ALL TIME HIGHS. nevermind unemployment is lower than its ever been under obama. nevermind GDP was still grew over 3% last quarter in the now LONGEST TIME without a recession. i mean, this volatility over just 10 months is gonna stop me from voting for trump even though stocks would crash fucking 80% if a democrat was elected!

>> No.13896286

>>13896270

Stocktwits unironically has higher quality discussion than these threads do now

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>>13896123
Oh! You're welcome! Glad you didnt actually throw your rent in the markets! Ror! You guys are the best. I <3 /smg/

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>tfw sold my puts at the bottom and riding my calls back up

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>>13896286
NYAAAAAA

>> No.13896312

>>13896237
I'm not talking about hoarding, which is obviously bad. Over-produciton is the result of over-accumulation generrating excess amount of investment and loanable funds. Supply doesn't create its own demand, and with structural class inequalities this means that periodically the mass of people's ability to spend not be able to sustain the current level of production. This fundamental problem can get moved around the economy in various accounting ways with credit, but this is why recessions happen.

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>I should have sold

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>>13896312
> over-production
> possible

>> No.13896348

>>13896301

>grown men obsessing over little cartoon girls
>grown men can't do anything without the inclusion of little cartoon girls

Hitler would have thrown people like you into the oven

>> No.13896377

More good news for weedbros
https://www.civilized.life/articles/bill-allowing-banks-to-work-with-marijuana-businesses-will-overcome-major-hurdle-says-senator-rand-paul/

>> No.13896379

These UVXY puts are going so cash, going to make so much fucking money. I might even go to the gym and fucking get a new fridge.

>> No.13896392

>>13896172
Philip Morris I could understand because third world people are stupid and not health conscious, but Altria? I understand your gamble but you might as well go directly into pot stocks without the baggage of US cigarettes.

>> No.13896401

>>13896377
Looks like Dudeweed is back on the menu, goyos.

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>>13896278

Not sure what you're getting at? This most recent pullback literally occurred immediately after the President's May 5th tweet.

>> No.13896408

>>13896347
Please, defend Say's law in the year of our lord two thousand and nineteen

>> No.13896424

>>13896408
If you mean to defend Keynes idiotic interpretation of it, there's no use.

& opportunity cost is the reason overproduction is not possible.

>> No.13896431

>>13896392
With Altria you also get Juul and a plethora of experience dealing with the FDA. Imagine that they legalize weed, but you have to get government approval to put your product on the shelves. Who's getting out there first?

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Goodbye SOyB
Hello UPS

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PROTIP (to myself)

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>>13896348
>nip kraut allied 4 l1f3

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Rorposter, you're just stating Regan talking points and GOP party lines. Keeping the bottom of society out of total zetsubo is a good thing for stability. Paying rent is not a bad thing, considering the urban housing bubble and the amount of people who are gradually switching from apartments to sleeping in their cars.

Just... fuck trickle down, it hasn't worked. Fuck deinstitutionalizing the mentally ill and exacerbating the homelessness crisis. Fuck the way boomer policies have made it a losing proposition to save any money, while bankrupting social security and failing to raise their children.

Fuck it all, I should've bought tvix instead of sdow.

>>13896348
>Hitler is my example of good national policy
Uhhhh... I mean maybe his policies were more effective than those of his predecessors, but they were pretty ineffective. Should've AT LEAST gone full slavery. Really stupid not to use people you regard as "subhuman" as free labor, at least until you can outsource to sweatshops for even cheaper.

>but r-real Hitlerism has never been tried before
you're as bad as the Marxists

>>13896431
That's my bet as well, but he has a good point. Cronos is going to get all that help without the exposure to tobacco, and the vape battle has no clear winner at the moment.

>>13896450
OOoOoOoooO
Did you get in MMM?
You having fun with me?

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The absolute state of Dean Foods investors.

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NKE going fucking DOWN wow congrats to all who listened to me AGAIN. I’ve made 5 calls on this bird that have all made people money here. PFE, PLUG, JWN, SQ, and now NKE
If you want more tips another 10 (You)’s gives you my next play for June

>> No.13896538

>>13896424
No, here I'm standing with Malthus and Marx.

>opportunity cost is the reason overproduction is not possible
The capitalist class could not possibly spend the money required to prevent over-production without giving up their status as capitalists. What's more, because the stock market rises the more people dump money into it, the greater the accumulation, the greater reward there is for accumulating. this creates all kinds of bizarre problems in a world where the rate of profit on actual productive capital is quite low. capitalist desperately search for investments that mantain a decent rate of return, a search that leads to reckless risk taking and extreme cost cutting measures.

>> No.13896542

>>13896495
Juul seems like the clear winner of the vape battles for the same reason they've been getting shot at lately: they completely control the youth money.

>> No.13896545

>>13896495
The poor get welfare handouts and tax refunds right? And some even win the lottery and are rich for 1 year or less. Mayhaps giving them more money isnt the solution?

>> No.13896549

>>13896495
Well the left wants mentally ill men to be able to use the same bathroom as my daughter.

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>>13896538
>malthus

>> No.13896573

>>13896377
Literally “priced in” I don’t like that term but it’s already cooked right now it’s the CBD meeting tomorrow people are waiting for regarding the FED

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Gold is crabbing... Taking no sides. Any opinions?

>> No.13896589

>>13896495
I bought more 3M yesterday, and when it bounces to 175 within 30 days Ill dumpe it

>> No.13896596

>>13896573
Sure but every time stuff like this gets announced there's still a quick hit sugar rush you can ride

>> No.13896600

>>13896572
Malthus was the first to bring up this point, both Marx and Keynes give him credit for that even though they disagree with the specifics and the focus on population.

>> No.13896604

>>13896584
That's what it's supposed to do. There is only the Golden Crab.

>> No.13896610

>>13896538
That still does not deny the fact that investing in production process x is away from production process y, and thus overproduction in aggregate is not possible (contra Keynes)

>> No.13896615

>>13896572
He's right though you know.

>> No.13896620

>>13896600
I just can't imagine putting any faith in an economic whose every major prediction was so wildly wrong

>> No.13896634

>>13896620
There is no reliable economic theory. Only reliable theories of production exists. And, that's marxism. Deal with it.

>> No.13896641

>>13896596
I’d buy the shit out of CGC and CRON right now but I’m holding out on one company with earnings tomorrow might be a 13% move +/- but weed is a good dip to buy for sure especially since the FDA(not the fed my bad) is going to clear CBD easily

>> No.13896646

HERE WE GO AGAIN I THINK

>> No.13896648

>>13896600
what a commie faggot.

>> No.13896658

>>13896610
Efficient allocation in the /proportion/ of investment is not something that prevents overproduction in the aggregate. It also doesn't always occur because, since investment decisions are about assessing future possibilities, random events and variables will cause excess and shortages in different areas. In a crisis primed world, such events are triggers.

>> No.13896665

For me, it's SQQQ $200 by September

>> No.13896666

>>13896615
The idea that capitalist benefits from reckless risk taking is absurd, he has to predict future demand for products which is opposite of recklessness.

>>13896572
Malthus was off in particulars, but if Malthus is wrong then Galton and Darwin are wrong too (and they're not)

>>13896600
You can still today observe the trap in Africa. But Malthus is correct in abstract (and so is G & D), which is that all systems tend towards hard selection.

>> No.13896676

Oh no, oh no, oh no!

>> No.13896680

I just bought lots of calls on Tim Apple
Take me to the moon, Tim!

>> No.13896689

>>13896658
> Efficient allocation in the /proportion/ of investment is not something that prevents overproduction in the aggregate
True, and to repeat opportunity cost (which is the fact that when you choose something you set aside something else) is what prevents Keynesian overproduction (with the assumption that there's no time machine)

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>>13896634

>> No.13896695

>>13896518
Time to BUY
I don’t have any of my cowgirl images on my phone

Also about to double down on NWL, so tempting RN

>> No.13896710

>>13896620
Only Marx's historical political predictions were mostly incorrect, his economic predictions were mostly correct. We have seen a tendency of a falling rate of profit, of accumulation and consolidation, globalization, the law of value was emperically confirmed, and periodic crisis has continued despite the best efforts of both keynsian and neoliberal regulatory regimes.

The only big things he got wrong were largely irrelevant to his overall point, he didn't anticipate anti-trust regulation or the move away from commodity money.

>> No.13896712

>>13896692
delete this its my cheat sheet

>> No.13896714

>>13896648
Ror! Call him gimmie.

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\o/
Give
\o/
Tim
\o/
Your
\o/
Energy
\o/

>> No.13896739

>>13896689
Keyne's critique was different than that of Marx. It's actually rather unfortunate, he notes that Malthus's discovery was neglected by everyone but Marx, but then decides to put aside all of Marx's contributions and just build off Marshall.

>> No.13896745

>>13896710
I don't give a shit about Marx, I just think Malthusians are retarded. I've never seen a set of predictions so lauded and so consistently wrong

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Trump hasn't said anything about cutting interest rates? Very bullish, it's a lot easier to cut when you don't look like the prez is manipulating you.

>>13896589
I'm in a lot of pain fren.
Making any other moves? Whatcha watching?
You still in all those consumer staples?

>>13896641
I bought more cgc when that anon posted the article that was already priced in. I'm a fucking stupid dummy.

>>13896549
>implying a woman would willingly bear Baggy's child
>imblieing the babe would survive to term
Gender dysphoria is, in my opinion, likely a manifestation of other mental illnesses and complete social rejection.

No one cheers for the actually mentally ill, so it's a lot more appealing to think that what's wrong with you is the current cause de celebre, that you can be a hero just like Kim Kardashian's mom/dad... or aunt/uncle? some shit.

No one is out there defending the paranoid, depressed, and socially maladjusted. And it's a lot more appealing to think that a name and identity change will fix you, than it is to think your parents failed you and you've failed to take personal responsibility for anything, and have to work very hard to try to turn things around or things will only get worse.

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THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>> No.13896768

>>13896666
predicting at all is inherently reckless. it's absurd to think that you can get true information based on nothing.

>> No.13896782

The amount of dread and excitement I feel watching my investments in free fall then rocket back is concerning, do I enjoy gambling?

>> No.13896781

>>13896745
Ah yes, Malthus's predictions were mostly just based off some casual empiricism and back of the envelope calculations. He is only valuable in as much as his pessimism and cynicism provided critiques of the economic mainstream of his time that would later be expanded by others.

>> No.13896785

>>13896755
Please tell me that’s fake.

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>>13896782

YES!

>> No.13896801

>>13896782
SPY is down 5.5% in the last month, the correction is over and now we'll pump to 300
Buy calls on based Tim Apple and MSFT

>> No.13896819

>>13896782
Why else would you be here?

>> No.13896822

>>13896768
>farmers are reckless and shouldn't exist
>t. Soviet Russia circa 1929

>> No.13896826

>>13896220
holy shit TT BTFO!

>> No.13896835

uh guys, why is that shitty trump tweet causing a pump lol

>> No.13896837

>>13896666
CHEKKED
HOLY SHIT THOSE DIGITTTTS!!!

>>13896801
I really want Tim at these levels... but... I don't know.

Maybe I should sell my SDOW now that we've rallied a bit

>> No.13896840

>>13896822
I chuckled.

>> No.13896843

>>13896768
they use the market prices for information which is the stored past valuations, in most cases. of course first firm on completely new industry is different.

>> No.13896847

>>13896822
>predicting is perfectly fine!
>corn skyrocketing RIGHT NOW because people actually can't predict! wow!

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>>13896826
Heard you were talking shit.

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Hmmmm...

>> No.13896869

Are you telling me we're filling the gap TODAY?

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>>13896859
i bought some more gold this morning after our resident marxist said that he'd prefer to buy boomer paper.

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>>13896869
FINISH
GREEN
GOLDEN
BULL

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>>13896739
Both Marx and Malthus were wrong in the particular subsistence prediction. We would have hard Darwinian environment working now, instead of negative, dysgenic one where Flynn effect hits wall and IQs are dropping.

>> No.13896909

>>13896873
I've gotta figure out how bonds work...
What gold? I kinda want physical or a miner.

Miners seem like a good bet with Chinese bans on the horizon. Many of them also collect silver, molybdenum, etc with the gold.

Also considering grabbing that dip in TVIX...

>> No.13896921

>>13896801
spy is going to be 270 by this time next week kiddo. Save your shekels and get a new kippa

>> No.13896938

>>13896902
Eh, the subsistence theory of wages was the mainstream at the time. Though both Marx and Ricardo relaxed it in saying that the subsistence level was in part determined by culture and levels of development, and thus wages would increase over time as a result.

>> No.13896959

>>13896909
i bought physical. i don't trust the paper metals.

>> No.13896974

I thought that Canada Goose news was actually a joke lmao

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Bros, how are there commies on this board? And more especially in this thread? The stock market represents everything commies hate.
>private ownership
>profit from trade without manual labor
>individual business operations
>market supply and demand
>human freedom of choice
Shouldn't they be donating more money to the government or their neighborhood homeless or sponsoring a NEET in their basement?

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Yeah, I'm dump my stocks on the NYSE
I'm gonna sell 'til I can't no more
I'm gonna dump my stocks to the JEG
I'm gonna sell 'til I can't no more

I got the shorts in the back
Put spread is attached
Stock is matte black
Got the port that's black to match
Dumpin' on the bogs, ha
You can whip your Nogs
I been in the dump
You ain't been up off that long, now

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>>13896921
Heh baggie these apple calls are going to make me debt free
Trump is the master of the deal and will get us a great one by tomorrow

>> No.13897055

>>13895655
Unless you couldn't have gone long because you DCA'd all your funds away at 270 in November, averaged out to a 275-280 buy in, had nothing left to play with at Christmas time, and basically made no gains unless you perfectly timed the exit a few weeks ago. The opportunity cost meme for the deadcat bounce is bullshit unless you know how to time bottoms, which you dont.

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This recovery stops now...

>> No.13897070

>>13897024
? the capitalist realism require marxists to accumulate more capital than capitalists have to overthrow them.

>> No.13897077

Equities are kill
Yields are kill
Oil is kill
Euro is kill

>> No.13897094

I just realized i up $70 on crypto and down $160 overall cause of this market. Crypto is saving my div portfolio as much as it can. Thank god i drunkly bought bsv last week and forgot about it

>> No.13897097

Anyone seen that Chernobyl show, it's top #1 in IMDB and getting insane reviews.

How much of it is
> NUCLEAR BAD

>> No.13897100

>>13897077
Checked but kek meant this as a joke

>> No.13897109

>>13897034
Hey are you ever going to teach me how to start a pod cast?

>> No.13897112
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>>13897024
commie retard has actual autism

>>13896750
the food stocks? I took -some- profits on GIS, sjm, CPB awhile ago but leaving the rest forever. Its probably a good day to buy back CPB and K today.

I had a Bank/Food strategy that is no longer relevant since interest rates will be flat for awhile. Mainly putting money in 3m and UPS

>> No.13897115

>>13897077
Wen pound kill

>> No.13897118

>>13897097
yeah, its fantastic.

>NUCLEAR BAD
its pretty accurate
t. physicist who considered going into nuclear but didn't because solar is more promising

>> No.13897157

>>13897024
Communism is born from the development of capitalism, I guess you could say I'm playing my part in taking us to that conclusion.

More importantly, though, it's just a good place for bantz and making predictions

>> No.13897164

>>13897118
we'll never get enough energy from solar to smash atoms into fucking rare earths. I can't believe you drank the fucking chinese flavour-aid.

>> No.13897176

>>13897118
I never had brians for physycs. I was only good at chemistry or biology but neither of the subjects interested me.

>> No.13897179

>>13897109
Yes you buy a crappy mic, use Microsoft voice recorder, say dumb things then convert the .mp3 to an .mp4

>> No.13897182

>>13897112
nothings more autistic than knocking off Antifa memes that were autistic to begin with.

>> No.13897189

BGS is barting up

>> No.13897192

>>13897157
obviously you're here to sharpen your argument skills. lets test them. what do you think is the ultimate argument against communism?

>> No.13897207

>>13897157
also, marxists are unironically the best investors. they actually understand the philosophy of materialism and how it relates to the means of production.

capitalists throw random darts and hope that it works.

>> No.13897213

>>13897179
>say dumb things
that part sounds hard

>> No.13897222

PENTAGON SUBMITS REPORT ON RARE EARTH MINERALS TO CONGRESS AS IT SEEKS TO REDUCE RELIANCE ON CHINA - RTRS

>> No.13897223

>>13897164
wrong

>> No.13897239

>>13897222
cant you bloomberg terminalfags link the article too?

>> No.13897242

Sinopec, one of the state petroleum firm in China, said they need to be ready that the country's petroleum supply will be cut off in short term future.

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>we-we did it, /pol/

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When we trigger the stoplosses? When we gap dooooooown?

>>13897112
Sounds like a good strategy
Surprised you're not jumping at that dump in JNJ tho

Never seen you throw around insults like this. Guess blood red market effecting everyones mood.

>>13897118
always amazes me that people pretend there are no drawbacks to nuclear. I think nuke is VERY cool, sick idea. But incredibly expensive and much more carbon intensive than people realize.

How can they have so much faith in human engineering? People can't even stop fighting long enough to cure their ebola.

>> No.13897265

Communism is, without a doubt, the most heinous personification of evil mankind has ever confronted...
The idea that a government will look out for the best interest of it's people is false because absolute power corrupts absolutely, hence modern government try to separate power amongst branches of government.
Can't even name one good communist country and if you can please buy your one way ticket.

>> No.13897268

>>13897242
>said they need to be ready that the country's petroleum supply will be cut off in short term future.

I hope this is a translation error regarding Iranian oil getting cut off, because now it reads like they think in terms of embargo.

>> No.13897273

>>13897256
>all people
>Africans

>> No.13897276

>>13897179
>convert the .mp3 to an .mp4
ok how do i do that?

>> No.13897280

>>13897265
communism is liberation of government, not the subjugation of it REEEE

all of existing and previous communist states are revisionary communism.

>> No.13897311

>>13897192
Not really.

But I have already answered this in an old thread. Communism in the sense marx talked about it may be impossible if conscious ex ante planning cannot reliably reproduce society. In the more broad sense, it could be that the capitalist state may be able to marshall some kind of action that is both capable of mitigating climate change/ecological catastrophe, and prevent a crisis so dire that people demand corporations be expropriated, and take some reasure to help the counter tendencies to the falling rate of profit.


I personally have abandoned the idea of ex ante planning as the basis for a whole economy, but I remain skeptical that the capitalist state can rescue us from the global crises we face.

>> No.13897318

>>13897280
Except it never works that way, see history
There is always a person/group in charge

>> No.13897324

>>13897280
communism is the liberation of government, sure, but the enslavement of people

>> No.13897328

>>13897311
You wont have post-scarcity in multi agent game. Even Even could have argued with Adam about sitting space in the Garden.

>> No.13897349

>>13897118
I did nice eng in school but now I work at a particle celebrator so

Also that CREAMY oil spike just now
Love that

>> No.13897354

>>13897265
Have you ever considered not being a cliche?

>> No.13897357

>>13897268
That is what they are talking about, they suggest that in the short term they need to enhance cooperation with other countries and increase stockpile to reduce the risk of getting cut off, and in the long term they suggest achieving over 80% energy self reliance by increasing the use of renewable energy, shale gas, and clean coal in 10-15 years.

>> No.13897365

>>13897265
Plz don't forget communism punishes those who serve and make, while rewarding those who take. Imagine working in a company where you put in lots of time and effort increasing your skill and efficiency, and instead of getting a promotion and a raise, you get your pay docked to give to Jimmy, and now you have to do his job too because hes useless.

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>>13897328
>tfw kant doomed us with a priori space

>> No.13897379

>>13897354
kek are you just a gommie because you want to be edgy?

>> No.13897386

>>13897370
Tight reading skills there, I am a dirty Kantian

>> No.13897389

>>13897118
LARP. The carbon footprint of manufacturing and recycling solar panels is gigantic.

>> No.13897395

>>13895809
John deer and i doubt cat can compete with them right now

>> No.13897403

>>13897265
shut the fuck up boomer

>> No.13897405
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>natty gas

>> No.13897418

>>13897213
My Apple and Microsoft calls are mooning and will give me massive gains. Unironically going all in on LCI tomorrow, newfags have sold, it's time
>>13897276
Use VLC or an online converter, be sure to make a patreon so you can sell nudes for money

>> No.13897424
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Yay Green day! And I only woke up 5 minutes ago

Buy n hold is the GOAT strategy, the lazy thinking man's strategy

>> No.13897426

>>13897328
who said anything about post-scarcity? not even the marx's formula of "each according to his need" made such an assumption.

>>13897324
we are already unfree, hence wageslaves. the communist bloc was not so concerned with liberation, their goal was to catch up with capitalism.


Whatever freedom we're too have, it must include the freedom to not sell our bodies in order to survive. That is the possibility that the horizon of communism holds.

>> No.13897439

>>13897386
hegelians have the best reading skills. folks, believe me.

>> No.13897445

>>13897418
what's your port size nowadays comfy?

>> No.13897446

>>13897379
commies love to fetishize communism from the comfy position of capitalist countries. None of them actually want communism, they just hate capitalism, usually because they are bad at it.

>> No.13897449

>>13897405
whats a good etf for it?

>> No.13897459

>>13897403
Go stand on any street corner in a 1st world country and shout these idiotic ideals. I dare you.

>> No.13897464

>>13897097
More of
“EVERYTHING IS FINE” is bad.

You know, what the Trump admin is doing in regards to the trade war. Owning up to a situation being fucking dire saves more lives and money than denying it to the point of undeniable consequence.

>> No.13897466

>>13897349
*nuc eng

>> No.13897470

>>13897446
tell that to china retard. try having some original critiques of communism for once.

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>>13897389
your incorrect opinion doesnt matter, only the reality of the situation. nuclear power down every year, solar up every year

>> No.13897475

>>13897365
That's not even true in the USSR
Under stalin people were paid by piece work.

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>>13897418
>newfags have sold, it's time
holy shit you're learning!!!

Company releasing good news off of what looks like support.. they just keep coming out with good news with more good news to come

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>>13897418
>>13897481
>soon

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>>13897256
not buying JNJ because I dont like to buy things on Day 1 of its dip, they tend to slide for several days. Also its not anywhere near the monthly bollinger band which Im trying to make my official strat because of the high probability

>> No.13897506

>>13897464
US economy was in the dumpster (slightly) before the trade war started though. It will get the blame for it sure, but the fault lines were there.

>> No.13897507

>>13897446
I don't fetishize any utopian future, I'm not concerned with what it actually looks like. I'm just here to point out that capitalism cannot continue forever.

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>>13897424
Someday when I'm as independently wealthy as you. For now we gotta hustle, gotta work them options for gains

>> No.13897527

>>13897499
i really.. really really don't understand that picture...

>> No.13897546

>>13897527
you're getting married!

>> No.13897548

>>13897470
>Communism with Chinese Characteristics
More like capitalism with government control

>> No.13897569

>>13897445
I had $3000 but had to sell $2200 for irl stuff sadly :(
Up 20% today from AMD puts, once I get my $800 up to $2700 (AAPL calls and LCI) I'll cash out a final time to pay off my car
Once that's paid off I can contribute a lot more each month and really start /making it/ :D

>> No.13897579

>LCI up almost 3% right now

Just another 15% to go until I break even!

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>>13897548
70 iq critique of dengism

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>tfw exploiting easy crypto gains to boost my Robinhood folio
BSV is the easiest money I've ever made lmao. Sold half my position today, probably will sell the last half after the conference

>> No.13897615

>>13897569
still counting your calls before they hatch? still playing with options? hmmmmmm

>> No.13897616
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13897616

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>> No.13897654

>>13897426
>possibility to not sell our bodies
Is possible under current market, but that's not what you want. That's not what commies want. Commies want slaves, they want something for nothing. Everyone does, but commies feel morally justified to do so. They want other people to farm their food, make their clothes, build their house, and entertain them without ever actually having to give anything in return. They only wish to take.

Hence they envy the rich because the rich have the means to pretty much buy anything they want. They dont realize most of them provided a lot of value to a lot of people in order to get to that position, they believe the wealthy are the true slaveowners.

In a strange bout of cognitive dissonance, they project their own negative characteristics onto them, both hating the wealthy and simultaneously wanting to be them. Calling for their destruction, biting the hand that feeds them, and believing themselves virtuous for doing so. What's that proverb about moral tyrants?

>tl;dr commies are children

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>>13897616
Indeed!

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meanwhile at LCI headquarters

>> No.13897670

>>13897615
Teehee :3
Probably get bogged on my calls but we'll see what happens. I'll get in LCI tomorrow regardless

>> No.13897717

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/power.html

based and solarpilled

>> No.13897732

>>13897666
> baggie is satan
>but actually right this time
LCI is putting out the fire. Cant say the same for Teva.

>> No.13897749

>>13897459
the point of communism is not its ideals, it's solving the inherent paradoxes of capitalism and taking the economic structure one step further

>> No.13897788

>>13897749
>people shouldn't own things
>bureaucrats should

>> No.13897801

>>13897749
the communists in this thread have admitted they aren't really communists but actually just want to criticize the most peaceful and prosperous society that's every existed without any valid alternatives

>> No.13897807

2770 spy broken
death cross
25k dow broken
its happening isn't it? this is the crash we've all been waiting for

>> No.13897820

>>13897807
yep, if you havent dumped yet you're in for the ride

>> No.13897824

>>13897801
how can it be a peaceful society when class warfare exists? lmao gottem

>> No.13897837

>>13897824
wtf im a commie now

>> No.13897844

>>13897801
there is an alternative: china.

>> No.13897869

>>13897844
wtf I'm getting crushed by tanks now

>> No.13897883

>>13897837
I mean, Warren Buffett himself, whose dick most anons in here love to gobble on, has admitted that class warfare exists in the american society. inequality is one of the inherent paradoxes of capitalism, I'm not proposing that it should be the first one to be solved, but it needs solving.

>> No.13897890

Bulls pushed but couldn't keep going, new lows incoming

>> No.13897896

>>13897824
>serve more, earn more
>class warfare

>Soviet Russia circa 1929: kill all the farmers
>not class warfare

>>13897844
>China is an alternative
Not a good alternative.

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Thoughts on HAL (Halliburton) lads? Looks like it took a fat dump, might be ripe for the buyin's.

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>>13897615
Speaking of which
APPLE NO YOU'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY WTF STOP STOP STOP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.13897932

>>13897896
neochina will win eventually. might as well get it over with sooner than later.

>> No.13897946

anyone have good long term/swing trade strategies?

I'm a scalper, pretty great at it too but I kinda wanted to get into long term stuff. Its really hard because the damn thing will just keep trending without stopping seemingly until it just gives up. Would mean reversion work good here?

A lot different from scalping.

>> No.13897960

anyone have good long term/swing trade strategies? I'm a scalper, pretty great at it too but I kinda wanted to get into long term stuff. Its really hard because the damn thing will just keep trending without stopping seemingly until it just gives up. Would mean reversion work good here? A lot different from scalping.

>> No.13897963

>>13897946
yeah bro im just going to share my profitable strategy with randoms on the internet i see nothing wrong with that

>> No.13897972

>>13897844
>China
You sure?
>>13897824
>when class warfare exists
Class warfare wouldn't exists if you killed all commie

>> No.13898006

>>13897883
inequality is not a paradox, its just nature.

>> No.13898036

>>13897932
They wont. They can't. Why would you want that anyway? I dont think you understand exactly what you have in America. These things called guaranteed rights to be respected and laws that are adhered to. It's not a universal thing. It's not even a common thing.

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>>13897898
>HAL
weak shit
long LMT or GD instead

>>13897946
buy a stock that is going to rise in the future, then dont sell it

it really is that easy

>> No.13898043

>>13897946
wanna learn something? anybody who takes up long positions in the next 6 weeks will be holding the fucking bag for potentially years.

>> No.13898044

>>13898006
modern society is built on hobbes' rejection of natural fate for humans.

>> No.13898060

>>13897946
Write covered calls. Congrats anon, you made it.

>> No.13898069

>>13898036
i don't want china to win either, but the fact is that they will win simply due to their leadership and economics.

the biggest flaw with american liberalism is that its proclaimed universalism is definitely false.

>> No.13898077

>>13898043
a Bag of riches

>> No.13898091

Stupid zoomers think they're owed shit

>> No.13898098

>>13898069
i believe america will ultimately lose in the world stage (maybe they survive this recession, who knows) because of the wealth gap.

more jobs are getting done by computers while at the same time the people who own everything are raising the prices on rent and food. this unchecked capitalism will give rise up angry, hungry masses

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>>13895612
>mining and construction are dead industries

>> No.13898125

>>13898006
>something exists
>it's nature
whether or not it's natural is besides the point. the problem is that there's an economic system in place where the production and consumption are social in nature but the majority of the profit is claimed by individuals.

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>my broker does not allow opening short position on tesla

>> No.13898140

>>13898069
>leadership
>economics
Doubt. They have numbers, and a psychopathic tendency toward it's own population. That's it. Think Russia in WWII. What did they do? They tossed as many people as possible at the problem, to die.

>> No.13898141

>>13898044
>modern society is built on hobbes' rejection of natural fate for humans.
aka we should give up our civilization
?

>> No.13898150

>>13895855
>Bert
YAAAY Bert!

>> No.13898155

NEW!!
>>13898148
>>13898148
>>13898148

>> No.13898165

>>13898098
>wealth gap
China have a larger wealth gap than America.

>> No.13898174

>>13896542
They only control them until people realize they can get a refillable pod device and save 80% over what they charge for their pods.

>> No.13898224

>>13898125
The majority of the profit goes to the people who have the most to lose, they've put themselves in a high risk, high reward scenario (Talking about small business owners) and they get to reap the benefits. As for large multinationals, I don't think communism is necessary to bring these things to heel, just an enforcement of anti trust laws. I reconcile my wish for enforcement of anti trust laws and my "pro-capitalist" stance by arguing large corps who reach trust busting status are harmful to a truly competitive market place.

>> No.13898357

>>13896348
Hitler was a vegetarian who failed to reproduce despite being the top dog of a whole country. What a faggot.

>> No.13898608

>>13897824
delet this. my son saw and is in trouble. were a good family we dont do comminism.

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just bought 16k worth of tesla shares how fucked am i