Refute this /biz/

[Anonymous No.13830110]

>Chainlink's strategy for security is not so good. They seem to think that if they describe a large enough volume of different mechanisms, that no one will be able to find a bug in the tangled mess.

github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo/blob/master/docs/other_blockchains/chainlink.md

>The problem is that we are trusting the hardware manufacturer. They could have saved copies of the private keys in their hardware, allows them to sign any message so to us it will look like the trusted hardware produced that message. The hardware manufacturer could add more pubkeys to the list, even if those pubkeys do not correspond to any hardware that they have produced. This gives the hardware manufacturer the ability to run an oracle where they can make it lie.

>If the hardware manufacturer can break the oracle system, then eventually governments will pass laws to force the hardware manufacturer to break the oracle. They will use excuses like "saving the children", and "preventing criminal terrorism".

[Anonymous No.13830142]

Nothing is without bugs. Each additional layer of redundant mechanisms that perform the same action reduces the probability of failure exponentially. Add enough, and the probability of failure starts being roughly the same as finding a private key with a balance by bruteforcing

[Anonymous No.13830164]

>>13830142
>The security of any system is only as strong as its weakest link

[Anonymous No.13830210]

>>13830142
Also
>Each additional layer of redundant mechanisms that perform the same action reduces the probability of failure exponentially
If it's a redundant (the same) mechanism then the crack is gonna be the same, it won't "reduce the probably of failure exponentionally"

[Anonymous No.13830264]

>>13830110
You don't need to use Intel SGX

[Anonymous No.13830268]

>>13830264
It goes for any trusted hardware

[Anonymous No.13830286]

>>13830210
Urine passing is a result of homeostasis. It is literally a balancing of the body so the urine passes everything that is not needed in that moment. Urine contains hormones, vitamins, minerals, amino acids that are not needed in the moment but may be needed in the next. It also has STEM CELLS IN IT. Your urine has info about what ails you and then creates antibodies when you drink it So drinking your urine is like drinking a highly nutritious meal. It is also a vaccine. If you get stung or bitten by a venomous creature, the anti venom is created in your body within 15 seconds & will pass out in your urine. I cured food poisoning in 10 minutes by drinking my pee. Before pharmaceutical companies took over, urine was used to cure gangrene on the battlefields of the world, it can be used as blood plasma in a transfusion if the patient's blood is not available. Your urine is just blood plasma but a different colour. There have been more white papers written on the efficacy of drinking urine & putting on infections, than any other therapy on the planet, all covered up by the pharmaceutical companies because if the word got out, they would go bankrupt. Hundreds of Dr's have written articles & books on the subject. If any Dr or individual starts teaching this miracle therapy & gets a following, they get threatened & if they ignore those threats, they are killed, such is the world ruled by corrupt corporations hellbent on making money out of nothing. The average mark-up (profit margin) on pharmaceuticals is around 20,000%, do you really think they will give up this method of creating gold out of lead & tell the truth? No chance.

[Anonymous No.13830290]

>>13830164
>>13830210
Not if they are applied at the same time, not in exclusion of each other. Logical AND, not OR
It's like having a parachute WHILE wearing one of those neat webbed costumes for flying while sky jumping

[Anonymous No.13830327]

>>13830110
>Chainlink's strategy for security is not so good. They seem to think that if they describe a large enough volume of different mechanisms, that no one will be able to find a bug in the tangled mess

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_in_depth_(computing)

>The problem is that we are trusting the hardware manufacturer. They could have saved copies of the private keys in their hardware, allows them to sign any message so to us it will look like the trusted hardware produced that message. The hardware manufacturer could add more pubkeys to the list, even if those pubkeys do not correspond to any hardware that they have produced. This gives the hardware manufacturer the ability to run an oracle where they can make it lie.

sergey already addressed this during the ocean protocol talk. that autistic german mentioned this and sergey said open hardware would be good, but that the hardware doesnt exist yet. as open hardware becomes available, chainlink will adopt

[Anonymous No.13830359]

>>13830210
Different implementations solving the same problem. Not exactly the same, just the same outcome.
not:
>having two shovels to dig
but:
>having a wooden shovel and a metal shovel to dig

[Anonymous No.13830433]

>>13830286
Get out of my thread weirdo.

>>13830359
I don't really understand what your reply has to do with the post you replied to. What's the argument here?

>>13830327
thanks for the reply, i'll look into open hardware. and who is "that autistic german"?

[Anonymous No.13830447]

>>13830433
>my thread
lel
>What's the argument here?
Oh, you're a brainlet. Now I get it.

[Anonymous No.13830475]

>>13830433
>and who is "that autistic german"

just someone in the audience at the ocean protocol talk

[Anonymous No.13830477]

>>13830433
>being so new you don't remember the aggressive german and his surprisingly rational questions
>not seeing sergey being the ultimate chad and remaining unshakable while addressing this concern

[Anonymous No.13830495]

>>13830164
we all drank our urine for 9 months straight, in the womb. Amniotic fluid is urine. For the first 3 months it’s mainly your mom’s pee. And for the remaining 6 months it’s mainly yours. There’s no umbilical cord attached to your genitals. The umbilical cord is attached to your intestines. And that should be another proof to people that urine is not a waste product, waste goes through your intestines. That’s what that excretory channel is for. If urine were a waste product, how is it possible that from day one, just about, the human fetus, the zygote, the embryo, is floating in urine? Urine is actually the ultimate, perfect, water, liquid. It’s what we grow in. And we would not have grown without it. And when you’re in the womb, if you remember, you breathe like a fish. You actually are continually sucking your own urine down your mouth. And that is more proof that it’s not a waste product.[2011] Andrew Norton Webber interview (Urine therapy, distilled water) by Chrissy McMahon

[Anonymous No.13830521]

>>13830477
Checked

[Anonymous No.13830532]

SAGE
kys op thanks for the retardation

[Anonymous No.13830546]

>>13830268
Who cares, you don't need trusted hardware right now. It would just be a really cool icing on the cake. If you can't imagine how Smart Contracts can offer a solution to all of it anyway, you need to think a bit more.

[Anonymous No.13830631]

Ahh yes the how secure is secure hypothetical fudd. Defense in depth approach, ya know like how everything is guarded in the real world. So in your case theoretically we’re all made out of cheese.

[Anonymous No.13830687]

>>13830110
>The problem is that we are trusting the hardware manufacturer.

When the security standard is so high that the only weakness is the hardware that any computer in the world running bitcoin etc. relies on

[Anonymous No.13830898]

>>13830631
>actual fud coming out the wood work.

If you didntt pay attention to the fags on this board, you know you have iron hands.
This is bullish.

[Anonymous No.13831409]

Poop and pee

[Anonymous No.13831544]

>>13830327
>sergey already addressed this
Probably his chaddest moment, if you can find a clip.