Looking for my fren :(

[Anonymous No.13598758]

thread got pruned or deleted looking for the fren who I was discussing my argument that generating wealth is only possible through exploitation. even though all frens are welcome here

[Anonymous No.13598764]

>>13598758
>my argument that generating wealth is only possible through exploitation

[Anonymous No.13598787]

great argument fren

[Anonymous No.13598807]

>great argument fren
>no arguments

[Anonymous No.13598810]

>>13598758
The thread got deleted because it was off topic for /biz/. But here's the reply I had typed out just before the thread got deleted; you can read it before this thread gets deleted too lol

>>13598716
Well if this is your view then that's quite relevant to the original discussion as well. It goes back to
>At some point, your definition of exploitation is broad enough that you're not even saying anything meaningful by calling something exploitation, other than signaling your wokeness or redpilledness or whatever.
If everything I do requires exploitation, then so what? Why do you even care? I certainly don't. How does it improve your life, or your ability to accurately assess the world, to make it a fundamental part of your worldview that everything you have was produced by someone being treated unfairly at some point? You seem like a reasonable and friendly person, but this sort of worldview seems almost like a mental illness to me. Remember the screenshot of the black guy's twitter that I was originally responding to in the post that you initially replied to. At some point the only correct response to "You're engaging in exploitation!" becomes "Yes, and? What's your point? Do you just enjoy being negative?".
Now if we could all just stick to definitions of exploitation that are restricted to behavior that's actually bad and avoidable, then it would be much more reasonable to go around saying "Who's being exploited here? Let's try to help them."

[Anonymous No.13598820]

>>13598810
it got deleted because of my redpills about islam which none is able to withstand

[Anonymous No.13598846]

>>13598810
hi fren. this is business related if jannies delete this they are huge cucks. will take a moment to reply will be right back

[Anonymous No.13598936]

>>13598810
>If everything I do requires exploitation, then so what?
you could make this case and I would be fine with that. even though one would still have the possibility to at least try to exploit as little as possible for the sake of others.
>How does it improve your life, or your ability to accurately assess the world, to make it a fundamental part of your worldview that everything you have was produced by someone being treated unfairly at some point?
It really doesn't improve my life but I can't help to notice it. Now my plan is to see what I for myself can do with this knowledge without going batshit crazy over time. Probably will lead down that road tbdesu :(
>but this sort of worldview seems almost like a mental illness to me
could be the case
>At some point the only correct response to "You're engaging in exploitation!" becomes "Yes, and? What's your point? Do you just enjoy being negative?".
your response could be yes and let's see what I can do about it to engage in activities that lessen this fact and lead us to a world where no one has to be exploited anymore. which I still believe is possible yet still far away from where we are at now.
>Now if we could all just stick to definitions of exploitation that are restricted to behavior that's actually bad and avoidable
but it could be avoidable but not in this type of capitalist society we life in at the moment. I am looking for ways in which at least I can act in a way that is on the low end of exploitation. Removing all exploitation is currently impossible. Maybe we will reach a society through advance AI and almost free energie where we it is not necessary anymore tho.

Do you have a solution how I can life a happy life without saying so what who gives a shit?

[Anonymous No.13598988]

>>13598936
>Do you have a solution how I can life a happy life without saying so what who gives a shit?
Right now, as we speak, there is someone who is currently being or about to be murdered. Someone else is getting raped. Is that something that bothers you? Seems like a more serious issue than abstract "exploitation".
Maybe you're just the sensitive type; I've personally never had any problem with not worrying about things I can't do anything about. I certainly don't spend even a moment worrying about abstract problems like generalized global exploitation, but I'm still confident that my life has had a net positive impact on the world simply because I give a substantial amount of money to charity.
Maybe look into Buddhism, its worldview is directly centered on the unavoidable suffering of all sentient beings, it emphasizes compassion, but more importantly it gives you strategies for maintaining a healthy outlook on life instead of getting mired in pointless negativity.

[Anonymous No.13599026]

>>13598988
well then I think I am on the right path at least. Already studying Buddhism and Stoicism as a way to accept things that I can not change and I should probably revolve my life on a true understanding of these matters. Maybe seeking "enlightenment" is the path for me as pretentious this might sound. Wealth is definitely not my solution I am very wealthy and this does not make me any happier. Thank you for your great discussion Fren. I wish you all the best.

[Anonymous No.13599066]

>>13599026
Bro, if you're wealthy AND miserable, obsessing over pointless things may well be the cause. Doesn't it make you feel great to give some money to an actual good cause and directly improve the lives of a few people? Do more of that and less of worrying about literal abstractions that you read about in a book and you'll be well on your way to having the right mindset for Buddhism.

[Anonymous No.13599107]

>>13598758
everyone is "exploiting" everyone in a free market economy. if you hire a painter to paint your house he is charging a premium warranted by his acquired skill/expertise etc. if you feel you saved money time and what not by hiring a professional painter then tgere is no exploitation. free markets lead to specalization of labor and increased efficiency. econ 101

[Anonymous No.13599124]

>>13598758
>create value in the market place
>make a profit for creating said value
>muh exploitation

[Anonymous No.13599128]

>>13599066
Without wanting to sound like a dick I give everything away which is not necessary for my survival. Still wealthy in assets tho which does bring a lot of trouble and worry but at least I can do good things with the money it generates me. This does make me feel a little better yes but I would not say I am happy.
>obsessing over pointless things may well be the cause
that may very well be the case yes but I can't help it. Will have to work on that. Those abstractions don't come from a book they come from my mind so maybe it is in hands to change that.

[Anonymous No.13599132]

and if the painter hires beaners to work for $1 he is still not exploiting them if they accept the offer but he's exploiting the whole market i.e. the fact that his workers would only get $0.50 in mexico for the same work

[Anonymous No.13599139]

>>13599107
>>13599124
>>13599132
guy this thread is about to be wrapped up I was only looking for my fren over there and I found him already

[>vishnu inside the blockchain(...) No.13599177]

Is buying bitcoin for a cheap price exploiting someone?

[Anonymous No.13599187]

>>13599128
I won't tell you what to believe about your own mind, but I am tremendously skeptical that you got the idea that generating wealth requires exploitation through a careful first principles analysis. I had you pegged as a Marxist, because it's classic Marxist reasoning and I strongly suspect that's where you originally got the idea even if maybe you don't remember exactly where it came from.
In all seriousness though, I've been doing Buddhist practice for over 10 years and while I can't say to what degree it's responsible for my current overall peace of mind, I can say for sure that I no longer believe in ANY abstract ideas like "exploitation", period. Almost all abstract ideas are made up, and rarely represent in reality anything like what they appear to be in your mind. I only use words like that in order to be able to have discussions with people who do believe in them. But YMMV. Do think about it seriously in any case.

[Anonymous No.13599197]

>>13599139
>this thread is about to be wrapped up
and who the fuck are you kid
get back to coachella, this forum wraps itself up just fine without you
t. Anonymous

[Anonymous No.13599227]

>>13599197
sorry Mr Anonymous dont haxxor me plx. if you want to continue the discussion this is obviously up to you. For my part I will not start again from scratch and will wrap it up shortly. that's what I wanted to say.

>>13599187
will do.

[Anonymous No.13599240]

>>13598810
>Caring about off topic
Spoken like a true effeminate tranny and janny

[Anonymous No.13599249]

>>13598758
I really hate you child minded faggots.

[Anonymous No.13599262]

>>13599227
Alright, I'm off to bed. Have a nice day / night anon.
>>13599240
I don't know what you thought I was saying that made you come up with that reply, but nigger u dumb as hell

[Anonymous No.13599264]

>>13599139
I hope you get cancer, fucking dumb piece of shit

[Anonymous No.13599276]

>>13599262
ditto anon