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From a cursory glance into eth 2.0, it seems like they created sharding and PoS out of something very akin to the entirety of Chainlink - implemented on eth entirely.
>muh blockchain agnostcism
Good luck with gaining traction when your main initial use case gets swiped from under your feet. I'm sure those Cardano decentralized oracles will make up for it, lel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jky_1HWjYqw

>"Ethereum gonna get true random number generation without Chainlink"

>> No.13558002

Are you retarded or pretending to be retarded op? Not even amusing. At least come up with a gag or something.

>> No.13558023

It’s real

>> No.13558025

>>13558002
Not an argument.

>> No.13558047

>>13558023
Not an argument.

>> No.13558061

another "muh literal who with a super rad gaming headset walking around speaking shit" post

>> No.13558067

>>13558047
I disagree

>> No.13558078

>>13558061
Not an argument. Go look up ETH 2.0 yourself.

>> No.13558087

>>13558078
link to a source that inst this old retard strapped up with 90's tech on his grey old melon and i'll have a read

>> No.13558088

>>13558078
This but unironically

>> No.13558282

yes, well considering the only use case of chainlink was random number generation, i guess that's it. pack it in boys, we're done.

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>>13558282

>> No.13558309

>>13558282
Random number generation is actually more complex than raw decentralized oracles. the problem set of the latter is is a subset of the former.

>> No.13558321

>>13557981
What's the timestamp for the ChainLink namedrop? I can't stand 5 minutes of this boomer rambling.

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>>13558282
sir plz

>> No.13558354

>>13557981
What does PoS and Sharding have to do with oracle implementation, lol.
Which is it? Did Ethereum just create sharding and PoS, or did they just make an oracle support contract?
Also if so, who cares? It's not like some dinky contract will solve the oracle problem - We need a new paradigm entirely.

>> No.13558361

isn't Tron or Neo or something implementing oracles also?

Lol Chainlink getting pushed aside.

>> No.13558373

>>13558354
decentralized oracle will be a trivial thing if sharding really works out

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>>13557981
Link BTFO

>> No.13558433

>>13557981
POS in 2-3 years because ETH dev is a clusterfuck - Sharding never because that is major complicated shit and ETH's clusterfuck dev process will never be able to successfully produce it

>> No.13558595

>>13558354
Watch the video. PoS and oracles seem intimately interrelated

>> No.13558608

>>13558309
This. Random number generation is INCREDIBLY difficult. Link has now been relegated to the dustbin of history

>> No.13558622

>>13558608
>dustbin of history
How about the "articles marked for deletion" of "know your meme"

>> No.13558671

>>13558282
>>13558309
>>13558608
I don't at all believe in the concept of a digitally created random number, only seemingly random.

>> No.13558792

>>13558433
Nice try buddy. Eth 2.0 in 2020. All this talk about clusterfucks lol. You crack me up. Lemme guess, you hold EOS or Ada. Fucking kek

>> No.13558804

>>13557981

y-o-ou understand the purpose of creating tokens on ETH vs using ETH... r-right?

1/10 fud

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>>13557981
Here is what you moonbois can do:
Sell link
Buy smartlands
Enjoy x100 eoy

>> No.13558827

>>13558792
Proof of stake will never work. There are almost certainly some edge cases they haven’t accounted for. Not a single serious cypherpunk thinks an internal mechanism of consensus can be robust to all the possible attacks

The real future of smart contracts is a pow based main chain and then scaling solutions like celer and link

>t. MIT grad

>> No.13558847

>>13557981
Did you even listen to what he was saying?
The random numbers are a REQUIREMENT in order to randomly choose the next node who gets to mine a block under the POS system.
Because POS needs this.
It also involves dedicated hardware apparently.
In other words: the random number generation is an integral part of the very basic function of ETH 2.0.

If you thought it made sense for the backbone (ETH) of an overlying oracle system (Link) to use the overlying oracle system for its own basic function, then you're a flaming retard.

>from a cursory glance
Yeah, it shows.

>> No.13558854

>>13558827
MIT grads don’t come on this board. 1/10 larp.

>> No.13558876

>>13558827
This is what they implemented.
>MIT grads in charge of reading

>> No.13558889

>>13558847
>let's implement our own arithmetic operators on top of the exact same arithmetic operators offered by the programming language we use

>> No.13558902

>>13558876
Please tell us all about how random numbers are a scaling solution, lmao.

>>13558889
>arithmetic operators
Are you trying to say this is what oracles are?

>> No.13558912

>>13558902
>don't understand metaphor
Into the autism bin you go

>> No.13558924

>>13558912
So "arithmetic operator" is a metaphor for both "random number generation system" and "oracles"?

>> No.13558930

>>13558827
Tfw larping mit grad on biz trying to call shots but in reality a google dev is working on 2.0 and has just released testnet for it. https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/ethereum-20-testnet-release-goes-live-201905080741