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[Anonymous No.13481514]

why you do this to me craig?I thought you were the one
https://www.ccn.com/satoshi-nakamoto-expert-witness-testifies-craig-wright

[Anonymous No.13481628]

>>13481514
never a trust a man with your money that wears diapers anon!

[Anonymous No.13481987]

>which appears to be a copy of an email sent from the Defendant to himself
LMAO did he actually think he could fake literally everything and get away with it? Is he actually schizo at this point?

[Anonymous No.13482029]

>>13481514
CSW is the Michal Avenatti of crypto. He will meet a similar fate.

[Anonymous No.13482426]

Why do BSV shills hate Dave so much? He did nothing to you, meanies..

[Anonymous No.13482618]

Craig is based, he fakes whatever he wants, whenever he wants without consequences. While so called "honest" and "fair play" virgin schmucks eat breadcrumbs after him.

[Anonymous No.13482626]

>>13482618
>>13482426
>>13482029
>>13481987
>>13481628

[Anonymous No.13482645]

>>13482626
D A N K

[Anonymous No.13482671]

The real Satoshi Nakamoto died soon after Bitcoin release.
Yes, that cool guy who was very sick.

[Anonymous No.13482687]

>>13482626
>>13482645

[Anonymous No.13482719]

I really need Craig to not be a fraud, okay thnx.

[Anonymous No.13482735]

>>13482719
Samesies. Does it make sense to pull this long of a con since 2014? Theres no way he could have executed it for 5 years

[Anonymous No.13482758]

HAHAHAHA

Imagine losing a 10 billion dollar lawsuit and the tulip trust keys

Oh man this is going to be great when is the verdict

[Anonymous No.13482776]

>>13482735
>5 years is a long time
Son, there are straight up bitconnect tier total fraud companies that have lasted decades. Get your shit together.

[Anonymous No.13482798]

>>13482758
There is a catch 22 to that though. Even if you hate Craig and this comes out like that, he's still Satoshi. If he loses this case though, he could end up completely ruined regardless.

[Anonymous No.13482815]

>>13482798
Email was the smoking gun

Craig should probably be put on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.13482827]

>>13482758
I am not sure if the Tulip Trust exists at all, or if it's what everyone thinks it is. Look, the Tulip Trust is based on the idea that they both supposedly gave away their private keys to be stored in a bank vault until a certain date. But a private key is not something like a legal document or a gold bullion. Even if you "give away" your private key, if you remember it or have a copy saved somewhere, you still have access to it. Now, how is the bank supposed to track if the funds are moved? To monitor the blockchain explorer? Is the blockchain explorer even legally recognized? Very, very strange. Of course, I could be wrong, but it's still a moot point.

[Anonymous No.13482840]

>>13482827
nTimeLock

[Anonymous No.13482849]

>>13482840
We know that their funds are not in a multisig wallet because Satoshi's funds were not moved.

[Anonymous No.13482880]

>>13482776
Not in crypto world

[Anonymous No.13482909]

>>13481514
Besides the emails and (also admitted) unfortunate matter(s) of the Dave Kleiman signature forgeries on asset transfer contracts, etc - hes really up shit creek without a paddle with:
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.24.29.pdf
Thats a written court declaration (under threat of perjury) that Creggies:
(i) Never heard of a place called Florida, maybe passed through it, once
(ii) Never done business there, nope
(iii) Barely knew Dave Kleiman (met him twice)
(iv) Never had anything to do with a company called W&K, never acted for them, knows nothing about them,
etc.
The sheer amount of written evidence to the contrary demonstrating this be horseshit pure - W&K = 'Wright & Kleiman' = A Florida Registered Firm - is laughable. Craig himself appears to be arguing both that the W&K documents entitle him to steal Kleimans share (see forgeries prev.) AND that the firm was, at the same time, nothing to do with him, BUT hes entitled to all the assets, because. Its this dancing at multiple weddings simultaneously gonna see him hung - he is, literally, perjuring himself near everytime he opens his mouth now
>>13482827
Tulip Trust (in as much as it exists) possibly a statue of limitations bypass device, or intended as such

[Anonymous No.13483010]

>>13482909
Man this shit is gonna be so wild looking back at in a couple years

[Anonymous No.13483077]

>>13482626
greg actually works for me among others

[Anonymous No.13483298]

>Tulip Trust
For a trust to exist the trustors (Wright & Kleiman) entrust property to a trustee, there are generally rules about what a beneficiary can do set up by the trustors. The trustee is simply there to follow the rules of the trust. Let say a common one would be, No trust fund with out Uni.

Surely, the trustee can see that Wright is not 'enhancing the value & position of bitcoin' if this is correct. I can't see how the trustee can give Craig access. The trust MUST have other beneficiaries.

[Anonymous No.13483414]

>>13482909
Craig's habit of fabricating things stems from little details. The last time he was caught was, I believe, a few weeks ago with the fake bitcoin.org purchase receipt. It's pretty strange that he still hasn't stopped the practice. Strange and irrational. Craig's shills claim that it's all Blockstream propaganda (but then, why would Craig give his competitors such a convenient reason?), or that he's simply baiting the disbelievers into posting stupid things about himself (what's the point in staining his reputation?), or that one should not pay attention to little details at all (hey, they're statistical noise anyway) and focus on his credentials and the tech. It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.13483509]

Faketoshi literally can't stop lying and forging documents. He's like a broken sociopath robot.
I guess this method of lies so outlandish that people believe them works when you pick your marks carefully and isolate them from the world, but in crypto/modern internet world, his reputation is laughable.

[Anonymous No.13483526]

>>13483414
Not to mention, anyone can verify most of these claims independently, no need for them to be provided by any particular source.

[Anonymous No.13483543]

>>13482798
>he's still Satoshi.

ahahahaha you bcashsv shills deserve the rope

[Anonymous No.13483548]

>>13481987
>Is he actually schizo at this point?
It's actually a medical condition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_lying

[Anonymous No.13483558]

>>13483414
>>13483526
He's also a computer scientist. Surely he'd fucking know this shit wouldn't hold up, so whats the deal?

>>13483543
Read the case.

[Anonymous No.13483618]

>>13483558
He's the guy that got through univeristy by copying homework, plagiarizing papers and cheating. I'm a computer scientist and met several of these types during uni. They will never produce anything of value but they're great at bamboozling nerds and taking credit for others' work.

[Anonymous No.13483712]

>>13483618
i would be with this guy but there is no such thing as computer scientist

[Anonymous No.13483774]

>imagine the bsv price if he loses this
God damn there's gonna be some cheap God coins going
Literally drooling

[Anonymous No.13483816]

>>13483774
I prefer the timeline where he wins ;_;

[Anonymous No.13483899]

>>13481514
Whenever I imagine what it must be like to be Craig, I get this visceral sick feeling of total exhaustion. The little mistakes keep piling up bit by bit. This is going to end with him doing hard time, like 5+ years at least. I'm about 90% confident in that.

[Anonymous No.13483954]

>>13483899
Meanwhile he's in the private Slack debunking all the fud being thrown at him and laughing.

Enjoy the Satoshi news coming soon. Remember to buy BSV!

[Anonymous No.13483984]

>>13483954
If you can't tell that he's absolutely dead inside, you deserve to be Craiged tbqh

[Anonymous No.13484037]

>>13483984
This comment says more about the person who made it than about anything or anyone else.

I would honestly block you if this platform allowed it.

[BSV will win No.13484046]

>>13481514
was inevitable that the kleimans would try again, this only lends credence to craig's claim to be satoshi

>>13481628
how did Blockstream come up with the diaper meme?

[Anonymous No.13484071]

>>13483899
if dubs Craig chokes to death on his own alcohol induced vomit

[Anonymous No.13484097]

>>13482849
Based and devpilled

[Anonymous No.13484114]

>>13483954
Share some breadcrumbs.

[Anonymous No.13484116]

>>13484037
... Craig, is that you? I don't think I've ever seen anyone tell someone they would block them on 4chan if they could, as if anyone would possibly give a fuck whose posts you want or don't want to read

[Anonymous No.13484170]

>>13483954
>Meanwhile he's in the private Slack debunking all the fud being thrown at him
maybe he should try doing it in public ? Or even in court. Difference, of course, being, less chance in 'private slack' of ppl pointing out, all the evidence contradicts every word he says

[Anonymous No.13484185]

>>13484114
This. We are hungry for info. please sirs

[Anonymous No.13484194]

>>13484046
It's still not certain if Craig and Kleiman were part of the Satoshi team at all, and not some extremely early adopters who happened to learn about bitcoin right away. Something is very unclear about the whole story.

[Anonymous No.13484207]

>>13484194
>It's still not certain if Craig and Kleiman were part of the Satoshi team at all
where have you been the last year?

[Anonymous No.13484209]

>>13483954
>private slack
>slack
>2019

I actually believe csw is retarded enough to keep using slack after everyone in crypto abandoned that shit

[Anonymous No.13484217]

>>13484046
How did Blockstream log into craigs account to edit an old blog post to frame him as a fraudster?

[Anonymous No.13484226]

>>13484217
wrong pic

[Anonymous No.13484238]

>>13484217
picture for ants

[Anonymous No.13484241]

>>13484207
This is all rumors multiplied by lies and outright forgery. There are many different possibilities including Dave being Satoshi, and neither Dave nor Craig being Satoshi. In anyway, it's pretty clear that someone's acting extremely dishonestly.

[Anonymous No.13484250]

>>13484207
This is all rumors multiplied by lies and outright forgery. There are many different possibilities including Dave being Satoshi, and neither Dave nor Craig being Satoshi. Anyway, it's pretty clear that someone's acting extremely dishonestly.

[Anonymous No.13484261]

>>13484238
I only just noticed that the blog's name is "Cracked, inSecure and Generally Broken". Obviously it's meant to refer to his IT security stuff, but it's actually quite poetic

[Anonymous No.13484274]

>>13484250
>He never understood the concept of proof of work
Why do you even speak?

[Anonymous No.13484291]

>>13484274
Lots of people do, including early bitcoin devs.

[Anonymous No.13484297]

>>13484291
You make no sense at all

[Anonymous No.13484334]

>>13484297
No, you. What relation does proof of work have to what I was saying? The point is, nobody knows who Satoshi is. Dave Kleiman, as it stands now, was just among the first bitcoin devs. What about Craig Wright being Satoshi, you know what kind of "evidence" has been presented. In case if both Dave and Craig were part of team Satoshi, I'd rather believe that Craig is trying to steal someone else's fame than anything else. But even that is unclear.

[Anonymous No.13484360]

>>13484334
Most likely he's referring to Craig's retarded metaphor where he uses "proof of work" to mean "I'm going to prove I'm Satoshi by doing a lot of work on BSV and it's gonna be extremely hard work and that will be the proof". Not even kidding

[Anonymous No.13484383]

>>13484261
>cregged insecure and broken
it is pottery, describes sv fags perfectly

[BSV will win No.13484442]

>>13484217
interesting. you're right, it's possible that it wasn't craig that edited that blog post but someone that wanted to discredit him

[Anonymous No.13484508]

>>13483954
dude give us something. my confidence is wearing thin. or are u a larping piece of shit?

[Anonymous No.13484511]

>>13484442
nobody could any more to further the cause of bringing discredit upon CSW than CSW already does himself. Its the sole area he truly is the undisputed meister

[Anonymous No.13484522]

>>13484442
that's only funny because you sv cucks touted these archived posts as evidence before the backdating was noticed and became common knowledge. but sure why not maybe the great info security expert genius uses Password1 as password.

[Anonymous No.13484546]

>>13484522
i wouldn't put it past core. greg has proven to be a cereal manipulator maybe even worse than craig. didnt he get caught fucking with wikipedia or something? GREG ARE U IN HERE?

[Anonymous No.13484809]

>>13484508
The slack is private for a reason.

Just don't be weak-willed, that also works. These so called "proofs" of him being a fraud are all either weak or their source is unconfirmed or very questionable. Always go to the source or consider it bullshit.

And remember to buy BSV.

[Anonymous No.13484826]

>>13484546
>implying craig wouldn't have reclaimed his account that's tied to his identity easily within a day and deleted the work of the imposter if he was an honest victim.
nah it's his doing alright and many retards fell for it.

[Anonymous No.13484896]

>>13484809
how many do u have? il be honest i have 140
>>13484826
greg is a shady editor too. i read up on his wikipedia past

[Anonymous No.13484945]

>>13482849
nlocktime doesn't go onchain til the time specified in unix time.

[Anonymous No.13485002]

>>13484896
I have enough to consider myself to have "skin in the game."

[Anonymous No.13485007]

>>13485002
aka your entire neet savings

[Anonymous No.13485171]

>>13485002
should i get more? pls halp me

[Anonymous No.13485267]

>>13485171
Yes. This is so bullish for SV. Master Craig is playing 9D chess on these pleb scumbag corecucks.

[Anonymous No.13485329]

>>13485267
it seems like ur being sarcastic

[Anonymous No.13485331]

>>13485171
If you can buy more and not go broke for at least a couple of years, yes.

"The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

Ideally your level of conviction should reflect your financial position.

"Put all your eggs in one basket. Then watch that basket closely."

[BSV will win No.13485345]

>>13485171
>>13485329
How would we know dude. Not even I have 140 BSV.

[Anonymous No.13485423]

>>13485331
u could be trolling me too. i just want to know the truth. i cant get it with this much faggotry in the crypto space
>>13485345
>Not even I have 140 BSV
im surprised at that. you made it seem like u were all in

[Anonymous No.13485498]

>>13485423
Yes, BSV is the shit. Trust me on that statement.

However, this doesn't mean shit about price. If you're going to hodl, prepare for all scenarios.

[BSV will win No.13485530]

>>13485423
i have most of my wealth in fiat and stocks. i have a little BTC just in case (because people are stupid). i have BCH. and i have BSV, but just 10 more than the amount of BCH i have.

i sold most of my BTC in 2017, was lucky and managed to do it at around the very top. i had planned to exit crypto because no way BTC was worth fucking 20k. it was ridiculous and i thought it would crash even more than it did.

but BCH pulled me back in. it felt like 2010 again, bitcoin was back. i had hope. then the november fork happened and I saw how poorly BCH dealt with it. i watched the livestreams. and automatic checkpoints, really? BSV really has the most bitcoinness and i believe the most in bitcoin. i know that crypto exists in reality, where patents matter. and i know that bitcoin MUST be legal for super big companies to adopt it. BSV gets that. but i haven't counted out BCH completely yet. BTC is a garbage project with garbage hodler-supporters and garbage developers (because they have ulterior motives holding it back). only reason i still have some BTC is because people are stupid and it might go up in price again.

[Anonymous No.13485553]

>>13485498
>>13485530
thanks

[Anonymous No.13485845]

>>13482758
THERE IS NO TRUST MORON

[Anonymous No.13486267]

>>13485329
I’m not!

[Anonymous No.13486287]

>>13482909
great addition to the library, ty!

[Anonymous No.13486574]

>>13484809
>These so called "proofs" of him being a fraud are all either weak or their source is unconfirmed or very questionable
The most recent one is literally from the court case and him submitting a fraudulent email to the court...

[CMO of bizpill online No.13486603]

>>13484217
>>13484226
>>13484238
>>13485530
great additions to my library, thank you!

[Anonymous No.13486631]

>>13485530
saved

[Anonymous No.13486930]

>>13486574
You have no idea what the context is.

I know people on this board aren't exactly lawyers, but come on. Use some common sense. You're trying to exame an on-going court case from 5,000 yards away on a highly biased semi-anonymous internet platform.

Just fucking wait until the case is over and the people who at least sort of know what they're doing make a judgment call.

[Anonymous No.13487012]

>>13486930
Anon, what is the 4d chess here?

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/159/kleiman-v-wright/

I want to believe, I really do, but I don't think I'm misunderstanding that hard on what is occurring here.

[Anonymous No.13487013]

>>13485530
Imagine being this stupid

[Anonymous No.13487156]

>>13485530
Hey I fixed your weightings for you

[Anonymous No.13487358]

>>13485267
>9D chess
>not 2gb chess
anon...you had one job

[Anonymous No.13487596]

>>13487012
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/159/kleiman-v-wright/
so basically, hes aready filed enough badly and blatantly forged shit to land him 15 years for perjury.. and this is still only jurisdiction arguments. By jesus, is he fucked

[Anonymous No.13487650]

>>13482880
Thats because 'crypto world' is only ten years old you brainlet