/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.13276041]

I was just offered $80,000 for my youtube channel of 24k subscribers, I get around $1500-1700 a month from it, and earnings are steadily increasing, should I go for it?

[Anonymous No.13276044]

>>13276041
yes

[Anonymous No.13276051]

No, tf kind of retarded question is that

[Anonymous No.13276052]

What type of channel
but dont dox yourself

[Anonymous No.13276063]

1700/month is 21k a year - he would recoup his investment in at most four years

A normal valuation multiple would be 15x earnings - he’s lowballing you by a factor of about 4

[Anonymous No.13276069]

Sell it, YouTube is dying For grassroots

[Anonymous No.13276070]

>>13276041
Who tf wants to buy a youtube channel? That doesn't really work. Fans will just stop watching

[Anonymous No.13276072]

Steadily increasing, but what's the forecast? Can you double, 10x the income?

I don't know what realistic YT income is like.

Is it your first offer, from the first person to offer? Maybe you can get more after a little while longer, and significantly increase the bids.

[Anonymous No.13276073]

>>13276041
Maybe

[Anonymous No.13276079]

>>13276070
yep
take the money
start over
this is so easy

[Anonymous No.13276082]

>>13276041
Yes and immediately buy 150k LINK with it

[Anonymous No.13276083]

How is he gonna produce the same content?

[Anonymous No.13276101]

>>13276041
Wtf? Are yt channels really worth that much? Is that all ad revenue?

[Anonymous No.13276107]

>>13276052
It's a gaming channel, I'm not going to post my channel or anything.
>>13276072
Yeah it's my first offer for something like that, well somebody emailed a while back wanting to buy it but they never gave me a figure. Not sure what the forecast is, websites that do future projections are saying I'll reach 1m subscribers in 5 years, but who knows what'll happen with youtube over the years. My channel might end up being demonetised for some stupid reason for all I know.

[Anonymous No.13276111]

>>13276041
Post channel op

[Anonymous No.13276112]

>>13276079
thisthisthis

[Anonymous No.13276119]

>>13276107
I got trips you have to post it now
>>13276111

[Anonymous No.13276120]

>>13276101
Yeah it's adsense revenue, earnings are actually higher but youtube take a 30% (I think) cut

[Anonymous No.13276245]

>>13276041
This channel wouldn't work without you. So iam not sure if he is serious.

[Anonymous No.13276280]

Yes duh.

YouTube is dying, and another web video service is gonna take their place. They have too many rules and they have gotten too greedy.

Typical evaluation is 2x to 3x of annual income. The offer is way above that.

Sell it.

[Anonymous No.13276370]

Youtube is too mainstream.

Would be cool if THETA could replace Youtube.

[Anonymous No.13276406]

>>13276370
It's a catch 22 though, if something was big enough to replace youtube then it would have to make a shitload of money and be "too mainstream" in order to stay afloat

[Anonymous No.13276418]

>>13276041
yes.

[Anonymous No.13276449]

>>13276406
Have you seen the trending page of youtube? Tranny makeup, night time show hosts pushing an agenda and minority/celebrity worshipping. Youtube is cancer and will die along with facebook.

[Anonymous No.13276481]

>>13276041
80k after capital gains if you're not a tax retard should net you 68k

$68 invested safely will allow you to withdraw $2000 a year. that's right a YEAR.

no don't sell your channel dummy. Take all the money and invest it and keep growing and milking it as much as you can.

I see amateurs on biz all giving bad advice but the bottom line is if you have a cash cow then MILK IT

now the above is all invalid if you're working 60hours a week on this channel.

I am assuming you work 20 hours a week max.

[Anonymous No.13276501]

>>13276041
damn how are you getting so much revenue for so little subs? what is your niche? Or is this normal on youtube?

[Anonymous No.13276584]

>selling something that gets you almost $20,000 a year for $80,000

You'd literally have to be the most retarded fucking faggot on planet earth to throw away this money and audience you worked hard for im exchange for a fucking four year cash advance. Don't be a stupid cuck like half of these brainlet underage pajeets telling you to sell are. Make no mistake: you caught lightning in a bottle, you will never "make it" like this again and you will regret selling it for the rest of your fucking life

[Anonymous No.13276591]

dont sell it nothing will replace youtube, youtube isn't even profitable, some startup with even more costs wont be either. everything will get worse until google owns the whole internet. take the blackpill and keep cucking out youtube content day by day

[Anonymous No.13276671]

>>13276063
what? no. a normal valuation is going to be something like 2.5-3x earnings. someone is highballing OP and he should seriously jump on it. in 4 years this channel isn't going to be making any money anyway. sell and move on to the next one OP. this is how it's done.

[Anonymous No.13276686]

>>13276584
You realize google could update their algorithm and his views could go down to nothing.

[Anonymous No.13276706]

>>13276584
you're making the assumption that he will continue to make as much as he is now on this channel....for more than 4 years. not likely....not at all. Especially not after Apex falls out of fashion and all of OPs content is forgotten. kek.

[Anonymous No.13276731]

Can u really make that much from only 30k subs? Seems too high.

[Anonymous No.13276759]

>>13276063
>A normal valuation multiple would be 15x earnings
no, you're retarded and you should shut the fuck up instead of spreading bullshit

>>13276280
>Typical evaluation is 2x to 3x of annual income.
correct

>>13276671
>a normal valuation is going to be something like 2.5-3x earnings. someone is highballing OP and he should seriously jump on it
correct

The minimum you should sell your shit is "monthly earnings x 24" or as others put it, yearly income x 2. Depending on how good you are at negociating and some other factors you could push it to x3 and sometimes even x4.

TL/DR: that offer is more than fair.

[Anonymous No.13276776]

>>13276731
I noticed for every 100 views you get 1 subscriber and for every 100 subscribers you can get about 1 patreon subscriber (or about $3/month)
For every 10,000 views that could be $3 a month. Could be pretty profitable because I remember getting that many views off some shitty video when I was a kid

[Anonymous No.13276788]

>>13276584
businesses sell for 2-6 times the pre tax profit...4x is right in the middle!
Not sayin he should sell, but those number add up!

[Anonymous No.13276798]

>>13276041
If you like doing it and have a fun time making the videos don't sell. If you'd rather start a new business sell. Easy.

[Anonymous No.13276808]

>>13276584
>you caught lightning in a bottle, you will never "make it" like this again and you will regret selling it for the rest of your fucking life
it's a fucking youtube channel and OP is the content creator. sell the channel, make another one, and put out content. he's already got the formula, it's just a matter of starting again. there's nothing special about a channel or website that makes money once you know what you're doing. if you only have one, you're doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.13276813]

>>13276481
Not even that, I have my real job and my youtube channel is just something I do in my spare time for fun every now and then, I mean I post enough to keep in the partner programme but it's probably something I do for 5-6 hours a week
>>13276731
It depends on how many ads you put on and the length of the videos, I put on a few mid-roll ads here and there, but honestly subs aren't the most important thing any more

[Anonymous No.13276841]

ideally you would decline, continue to build the channel for another few years, and then sell it for a lot more. However the risk of demonetization or youtube getting btfo by a competitor is real. Who tf would buy a youtube channel anyway?

[Anonymous No.13276858]

>>13276813
Why did your revenue drop that hard?
Also past 90 days revenue is only 4k, that makes 1350 a month.
80k is very good offer imo.

[Anonymous No.13276860]

>>13276813
>that feel when my channel gets lots of views but is demonetized

[Anonymous No.13276863]

>>13276858
Depends of what you like also.
If you like making videos.
Dont sell.
If you like money
Sell.

[Anonymous No.13276868]

>>13276082
This

[Anonymous No.13276872]

>>13276041
It would take you ~50 months to make that money. assuming the average of 1600 p/m. A normal price would be 24-36 months. So I'd sell.

[Anonymous No.13276888]

Take the money and run, don't be a dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.13276932]

>>13276041
how the fuck does a 24k sub channel scoops in 2k a month?

[Anonymous No.13276973]

>>13276686
>>13276706

Risk is inherent in any business, especially one dependent on a third party or multiple third parties. OP can adapt to change if need be, if he sells out for such a pitiful amount he's just done, forever lmao. What can you do with $80,000? Pay rent and eat for a couple years? If someone offered me that I'd tell them to kill themselves. A lot of questions remain unanswered such as "how long OP has been running his channel" and what specific niche of gaming content it is and so on. If he's been running this channel off the back of flavor-of-the-month games for several years already there's no fucking way he should sell and you know it-if he was at nothing before faggot legends came out that MIGHT be different.

[Anonymous No.13276977]

>>13276041
take it and reinvest, some rich zoomer baby decided to make his first investment-

[Anonymous No.13276984]

>>13276041
counter his offer and ask for 100,000 DOGE.

[Anonymous No.13277005]

>>13276858
Youtube analytics are terrible they often don't update for days later. So that dip is the 8th and I'm still waiting for it to update.

[Anonymous No.13277016]

>>13276860
That's crazy, what was the reason? Reused content?

[Anonymous No.13277035]

How can I make money on Youtube without using my own face and voice?

[Anonymous No.13277048]

>>13276932
Because honestly subs aren't the most important thing anymore, I mean they're great because they're pretty much guaranteed views but it's all about watch time and view duration

[Anonymous No.13277085]

>>13276041
Sell it, shill your new channel use the 80 k to fund better content

[Anonymous No.13277143]

>>13276041
What type of videos do you make? you say its about gaming but do you do letsplays or top 10 lists etc? im asking because i want to start my own soon.
Also yes take the money you can just make a new channel and keep doing what u do now with a rebranding.

[Anonymous No.13277209]

if your earnings are steadily increasing, don't sell it.

[Anonymous No.13277219]

Yes take it. All in ETH. Be a millionaire in 5 years.

[Anonymous No.13277255]

>>13276041
if you take the money and invest in LINK you will be richer than you ever dreamed of becoming.

[Anonymous No.13277260]

>>13276973
You’ve got to be joking. You are shit with money if 80,000 is of no use to you

[Anonymous No.13277269]

>>13276063
YouTube earnings are not passive. Valuing a channel like you'd value a utility stock is retarded.

[Anonymous No.13277278]

>>13276041

Counter at $97,000 and bicker over it until you get $85,000-$90,000

Then run for the hills and don't sign any 'no compete' agreements and start all over again lel

[Anonymous No.13277279]

I'd take it and start another channel. If you've got fans, maybe they'll follow you

[Anonymous No.13277289]

>>13277269

Yeah everyone here seems to think the channel deserves a valuation of a fortune 500 company.

[Anonymous No.13277318]

>>13277269

Oh and also if it's a gaming channel I'd be inclined to put the valuation lower unless this guy is able to grow his engagement on videos and increase viewer retention/engagement.

Because let's be honest, there are so many people that want to make it in the gaming category and play video games for a living. The competition and supply of content for that category is probably going to keep growing until esports/gaming plateaus.

If OP had a financial / health channel I'd maybe be hesitant, because the CPMS + chance to plug your own courses/products/merch etc. is way more valuable in those niches imo.

[Anonymous No.13277382]

>>13276063
>dining with krueger: the post

[Anonymous No.13277392]

>>13276584
>t. emotionally invested śoyboy

[Anonymous No.13277429]

>>13277260
I'm extremely frugal actually, you're the one telling someone to give up a projected $20,000+ a year for a short term advance because of your paranoid fud about "muh algorithms".

Rent $1000~/mo
Car Insurance $100/mo
Gasoline: $60/mo
Electricity: $60/mo
Internet: $75/mo
Food/drink $300 a month ($10/d av.)

That's $1,600 on essentials exclusively (not my essentials mind you, I pay $60 for insurance and $600 in rent because of roommates), nearly $20,000 a year (and that's excluding health insurance). $80,000 isn't shit in the real world. It'd make a good down payment on a house, and for what? So he could pay $3,000/yr on property taxes, $200 a month on natural gas etc. and have no income stream to pay for it?

>>13277392
Stay poor, marshmallow eater

[Anonymous No.13277448]

No. Your YouTube channel is your brand; use it to branch out into other social media and capitalize, capitalize, capitalize. Start a Patreon and post your shit to every platform.

Yes, YouTube is dying, but your brand can outlive it and you need to ride this wave as long as you can to build your audience.

[Anonymous No.13277553]

Youtube is dying slowly OP, if you are still interested in your auidence find a way to make them patreon paypigs.

[Anonymous No.13277580]

>>13277429
>nearly $20,000 a year (and that's excluding health insurance). $80,000 isn't shit in the real world.

4 years of life expenses isn't shit. okok

[Anonymous No.13277634]

>>13276041
Really depends on your risk tolerance and how much you expect the channel to grow/how relevant you think YouTube will be in 4 years. As long as you invest wisely it could be a good time to sell

[Anonymous No.13277652]

>>13277429
You only spend 60/month on gas?

[Anonymous No.13277751]

>>13277580
Maybe if you're expecting to drop dead over that period of time. OP is on a good trajectory now, if he gives that up he's starting from 0 like the 100s of thousands of other wannabe streamers-and this time he may never recover to where he is now. Yeah he'll be somewhat comfortable for a few years, hurray for NEET life xd, but to give up what he has now he's basically operating on the assumption that he's 100% going to fail and is going to have to go to back to wage slaving anyway. For one thing, if someone's initial offer is $80,000, you can bet they valued it far more. Ultimately OP would be betting against both himself AND his potential investor

(there's also the possibility the guy is simply scamming but I assume youtube has some protections in place to prevent that)

>>13277652
Admittedly a pretty rough estimate, I wouldn't be surprised if I spend closer to $80 but I"m not sure. I fill up about once every three weeks I think.

[Anonymouse No.13277767]

>>13276041
Generally a business is sold for the profit it would generate over a 10 year period. Give a significantly higher counteroffer, and if they balk, just sit on it.

[Anonymous No.13277800]

>>13276671
what company trades at 2.5x earnings other than shitty ones that are about to have their earnings drop like Micron?

AMD is trading at 125 P/E or something ridiculous like that

[Anonymous No.13277803]

>>13277767

this. if you consider they would make back their initial investment in less than 5 years (assuming NO growth) they would be getting it for a bargain.

Another thing to consider is how much do you want to keep doing this yourself. if you want out, selling is a good way to do it of course. I have so many youtube channels i enjoyed but just stopped uploading. if they kept plowing away maybe they would of gotten an offer as well.

[Anonymous No.13277826]

>>13276041
How easy is it to operate. $1,500 is excellent cash flow. If you get that with minnmual effort on your part I would not sell.

To get a equivalent cash flow investment that is a 10% return quo’s be close to $200,000.

[Anonymous No.13277834]

>>13276063
youtube channels are not value stocks wtf

[Anonymous No.13277914]

>>13276973
what can you do with $80k? you can invest it or live off of it while you build something new that will generate more income. I don't understand what makes the 2k a month more attractive. desu,you come off as being a crypto neet with limited real world experience with money.
>not selling my linkies until $1000!!!!

[Anonymous No.13277988]

>>13277800
are you for real right now? we're talking acquisition, not stock valuation brainlet. 2-3x is standard. try to sell any revenue generating online business for anymore than that. you can't.

[Anonymous No.13278135]

Sell that shit, right fucking now.

Take the cash and put it in the S&P 500 index over a year. Turns it into millions by the time you retire.

[Anonymous No.13278147]

>>13277429
Youtube is dying man. Even if it doesnt die OP can always just make a new channel. By taking the 80k hes basically just taking a massive dividend payout on his work.

[Anonymous No.13278153]

>>13277826

He isn’t guaranteed that level of popularity. If he’s a casual it could just be dumb luck up to this point, I’d take the cash and reinvest unless he has a solid plan for the channel moving forward.

[Anonymous No.13278156]

>>13278135
yes buy at the top classic biz

[Anonymous No.13278158]

>>13276041

yes, then delete it after you receive payment

[Anonymous No.13278187]

>>13276041
>sell it
>make a new channel

how long did it take you to reach 24k? just a thought

[Anonymous No.13278197]

brainlets in this thread - don't sell OP. The reason he offered you well above your 2-3x yearly earnings is because of how easy it is to scale youtube - the big get bigger. You could easily take your channel and start earning 10x in the next 1-2 years.

[Anonymous No.13278212]

>>13276079
this

[Anonymous No.13278214]

>>13276041
cashout and all-in in crypto, youtube policies are getting fucked

[Anonymous No.13278225]

>>13276052
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>>13278197
FOUND HIS CHANNEL GUYS
https://youtu.be/nn_WsUFcpmU

[Anonymous No.13278401]

>>13276063
Normal valuations in SaaS software are 3-5x. I doubt youtube can pull more than that

[Anonymous No.13278511]

>>13277988
you're the brainlet, in fact in acquisitions price/earnings ratio rarely matters

it's future cash flows that matter, which could be higher or lower

[Anonymous No.13278572]

>>13278187
Almost 4 years, and I don't think I could be bothered going through that ever again to be honest

[Anonymous No.13278609]

>>13276041
Yes sell. ROI.
Then take half for fun. Reinvest other half in stocks with a good spread.

[Anonymous No.13278627]

Just remember that it will eventually level off. At some point it will become a bell curve.
This is my analytics up until 2015. It's easy to speculate when everything's going up.

[Anonymous No.13278639]

Then it eventually leveled off, i eventually slowed down uploading. Editing and everything became a pain. But i don't think i would sell. I still enjoy it and am happy with the $700 per month and the possibility of making more

[Anonymous No.13278665]

>>13278511
reminder....we're talking about a you tube channel. projected future cash flows do not matter. only current revenue. 2-3x yearly revenue is not only a fair price, it's quite standard. it's crazy that someone is offering as much as they are for this. ask anyone whose ever sold a website or SaaS what a fair market price is. seriously, some of you guys are unreasonably deluded. you compared a publicly traded companies stock price vs. earnings to OPs youtube channel. get a grip fag.

[/quality biz/ No.13278671]

Surprisingly, people on biz have no idea how the real world works. Watch a couple of shark tank episodes guys, investors typically offer 3x yearly and more often than not lowball (since they are in a better bargaining position).
You sound like "idea guys" wanting a 50/50 split for their idea, lol.

[Anonymous No.13278673]

>>13278639
That's pretty fantastic anon, what time period is this?

[Anonymous No.13278690]

>>13278639
>>13278673

Don't mean to shill too hard, but have you guys looked into getting Brave verified? I imagine it's just another way of making money, but it's making money through cryptocurrency and could be a big thing going forward. No cost to you and would only increase revenue.

https://brave.com/creators/

[Anonymous No.13278738]

I've been Brave verified for about 5 months. It's been pretty pointless.

[Anonymous No.13278759]

And i've been on Youtube for about 7 years. It's a lot of work. Editing sucks and takes hours.
If you can become popular just streaming yourself gaming that would be a lot easier. Just record, play, upload.

[Anonymous No.13278765]

>>13276079
>>13276041

this for this
YT will cuck your earnings
Pocket 80k now. Start over

[Anonymous No.13278776]

tips on growing your channel?

[Anonymous No.13278800]

I've tried almost every SEO (search engine optimization) program out there. What works best for me is a program called GSA Search Engine Ranker and their Captcha Breaker. Just input keywords and links into the fields, press play and it generates thousands of backlinks for you. But again just learning to optimize the software takes time.

[Anonymous No.13278843]

>>13278776
Have a niche, something that's not completely saturated, accept that you most likely will never be famous and earn enough not to have to have a real job. Don't obsess over views/subs (or lack of at first), reply to comments and build your community up.

Honestly the most important thing is do it because you want to and not because you want to grow or make money off it, and it'll happen naturally over time

[Anonymous No.13278897]

Agreed. 99% of my views come from non-subscribers. Subscribers are for people that do pointless brain-dead daily vlog uploads.

[Anonymous No.13278949]

>>13278800
I use the free version of VidIQ, pretty good to know what keywords to put in

[Anonymous No.13278980]

>>13278639
Have you paid any tax or declared that income?

[Anonymous No.13279005]

>>13278800
This works for YouTube SEO?

[Anonymous No.13279045]

Yes, paid taxes every year. Youtube/Google sends you a W9. But you can declare your bedroom your workspace. Claim your computer, camera, anything as a business expense.
And GSA works for any web page or youtube. Google/Youtube's search engine works on high-ranking backlinks. Basically any page with a link to yours is a backlink. The program builds backlinks pointing to your video, google finds these links, your website/video gets ranked higher in their search engine. But it also has to be decent quality.

[Anonymous No.13279103]

>>13278738
>>13278759
Interesting, that's cool that you're Brave verified. If you linked your channel I would definitely tip you some BAT, I'm always looking to help out newly Brave verified creators.

Brave no doubt has a long way to go in a lot of ways, but I think the best way to monetize it is to inform your viewers that it exists and how it works. Shilling to viewers definitely isn't for everyone though so I understand now wanting to do that.

[Anonymous No.13279147]

I tried putting a bitcoin and ethereum key in the description for donations. Didn't really get any, although my video's aren't crypto related.
I did message Heidi from Crypto Tips (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCavTvSwEoRABvnPtLg0e6LQ)) and asked if she ever got any donations. She said not a ton.
I copied and verified the balance of the public key she put in the description of her video's and saw that she only had like 20 donations over the past few years.

[Anonymous No.13279157]

Isn't view grow generally quite exponential? Yes, you could likely go to 0 with a algo change, but you could also quite quickly triple your subs/views, and it only gets easier as you grow, no?
I'd probably keep it unless you really need the cash

[Anonymous No.13279221]

I have a bigger channel than you (80k+) and never make/made that much. What type of content do you produce? I thought selling your channel was against TOS.

Tell me all of your deepest secrets, anon.

[Anonymous No.13279315]

>>13279221
It probably is against the TOS, but so is selling PSN or Xbox accounts but people do it all the time. To be honest though I don't think I'll risk it, I'd rather have the steady monthly income than one lump sum that'll last me a couple of years if that. Congrats on the 80k+, I just make gaming content, I think the reason you might not earn as much is maybe because my videos are generally 3+ hours long and I put 6-7 mid-roll ads on them (no more than 1 every 15 minutes)

[Anonymous No.13279323]

>>13276082
the OP isnt smart enough to do that
but thats the true answer
sell it now and buy link, fantom, hot, one of the meme coins you wont make that level of wealth in 50 yrs of your dumbass channel
YT is cranking down hard on non corporate channels as well

[Anonymous No.13279522]

>>13279315
That makes sense. If it's profitable and you can carry on with fresh content I'd say keep it. The lump sum is fucking tasty but if you feel you can make it work go for it. Or start a second channel, sell the original, rinse repeat.

Good speed, anon.

[Anonymous No.13279573]

Ya i know lots of people who have a second channel. The first one for their main content. The second one for more low-key vlog type stuff directed to their more loyal subscribers.

[Anonymous No.13279885]

>>13278225
SCUMBAG!

[Anonymous No.13280059]

>>13276082
Good lord. This is a brilliant idea. When Link takes off, you'll have a new brand and can attract them back.

[Anonymous No.13280471]

>>13276063
I've got this bottle of stale cum and I'd value it at $1. You'll buy it for $15, right?