/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.13122533]

I hate most of you retards here but there are some decent people on this board and this is why I am sharing this (actually obvious) truth. CSW was the team leader of Satoshi. Do your due diligence.

Ian Grigg:

http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001593.html
http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001617.html

Gavin Andresen:

http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi

Jon Matonis:
https://medium.com/@jonmatonis/how-i-met-satoshi-96e85727dc5a

You can look up on your own how legit these people are and if it's possible that CSW fooled them. Hint: It isn't.

>B-but muh public signig!!1! Dunt trust, verifyyy!! Core told me he's a fraud and scummer!!

You can ignore reality but you can't ignore the consequences of reality. There is probably not much more time left to load up on BSV, chose wisely.

-Anon

[Anonymous No.13122541]

lolno. satoshi is nick szabo. csw is an australian fraudster.

[Anonymous No.13122542]

Not one of them revoked their statements to this day.

[Anonymous No.13122545]

>>13122541
oh becuase a hungarian is better than an aussie

[Anonymous No.13122548]

>>13122542
gavin andresen knows that Nick is satoshi. hes perfectly happy yo misdirect people to craig scammer because it protects his friend nicks pseudonymity.

[Anonymous No.13122555]

>>13122545
unironically yes. australian people are notoriously stupid.

[Anonymous No.13122562]

>>13122548
>>13122541
Face reality as it is and not as you wish it to be.

[Anonymous No.13122578]

>>13122562
shove it up your ass scammer

[Anonymous No.13122587]

what about david kleiman

[Anonymous No.13122595]

>>13122578
You did not even read the articles brainlet, stay poor for the rest of your miserable life.

[Anonymous No.13122628]

>>13122587
Dave completely reworked the code and was later on also part of the team. Jeff Garzik even recognized his coding style.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-08/bitcoin-pioneer-who-gave-away-over-100-million-has-no-regrets

[Anonymous No.13122633]

>>13122628
>"My personal theory is that it’s Floridian Dave Kleiman," Garzik said in an phone interview. "It matches his coding style, this gentleman was self taught. And the Bitcoin coder was someone who was very, very smart, but not a classically trained software engineer.”

[Anonymous No.13122637]

>>13122533
>bags are heavy
>moms spaghetti

[Anonymous No.13122640]

I'd rather trust Patrick Byrne. Rvn is bitcoin 3.0

[Anonymous No.13122668]

>>13122640
>Falling for the Bitcoin 3.0 meme

Bitcoin's design was almost flawless in itself before core raped it. However, it is restored now in BSV.

[Anonymous No.13122766]

Finally a fellow non brainlet. OP don‘t waste your time with these fools and always remember:

Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

[Anonymous No.13122782]

>>13122766

You are completely right. This is your average /biz/tard:

>>13122578
>>13122555
>>13122541

[Anonymous No.13122888]

>>13122533
I am pro SV.

The thing to understand is that this isn't really just about Craig. This is about you, this is about me, this is about our beliefs. This is about the structure of reality itself.

Our reality has literally split into multiple parallel time tracks (movies) that are simultaneously occurring. You see this in politics with how polarized it has gotten and how people can't seem to make up their minds about whether a particular person or group is good or bad, or what story or narrative of events is the true one. The secret is, there is no real external truth to any of this, as physical reality is really just a projection in our own consciousness and will automatically reflect whatever our strongest beliefs are. As such, the way we experience reality as it unfolds as positive or negative entirely depends on what definitions and beliefs we are holding.

Bitcoin is actually a technological reflection of something bigger. The Bitcoin network is a cross section extrusion of a geometric matrix from a higher dimension into this dimension of spacetime. The original term used for the blockchain was actually the timechain and if you look at the early source code from 2008 you will see this. Bitcoin, in the form of the original design, exhibits quantum mechanical properties and as it scales it develops into a hive-mind network of artificial intelligence that hyper connects and coordinates all human activity to allow it to operate at higher frequencies, in order to assist in stabilizing our timeline and accelerating our evolution from the 3rd to the 4th "density" or frequency range of consciousness.

This is why there can be no proof. Craig is simultaneously Satoshi and a fraud, and you will see the one or the other depending on the point of view you are taking. He is whoever you say he is. With that in mind, make the choice for yourself and decide what you want to buy into. It's your projection after all.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13122902]

>>13122533
>You can ignore reality but you can't ignore the consequences of reality.
yes it's just that you are so detached from reality you made up your own.

[Anonymous No.13122903]

imagine being a terminal late adopter, so far down the rabbit hole that you're actually BUYING a free airdrop token.

just give it up already, crypto has passed you by, and you're too emotional to move on from it.

[Anonymous No.13122910]

>>13122888
we're reaching levels of cringe unseen

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13122915]

>>13122668
it's not restored it's perverted. they made sv to be a cheap curry clone of bitcoin first but then proceeded to make it a global repository of easily accessible child pornography. forgetting that the most important thing that makes bitcoin bitcoin is consensus they continue to sully the name with their curry poo filth.

[Anonymous No.13122930]

Why are half Finney's parents suing him for forging his signature then

He is literal scammer who belongs in prison

[Anonymous No.13122946]

>>13122533
How much do they pay you shills and are there openings on the team?

[Anonymous No.13123225]

does anyone else knows about how craig was sued also by the brother of Dave Kleiman
there were 3 people that made Bitcoin, Craig Hal and Dave
https://www.morrisoncohen.com/siteFiles/files/2018_02_14%20-%20Kleiman%20v_%20Wright.pdf

[Anonymous No.13123299]

>>13122903
I started buying Bitcoin in 2012 but it was BTC back then, now it is BSV. Imagine not doing your own research and just throwing money in useless projects because you always follow the herd.

>>13122930
Get your facts together, again 0 reserach. You guys are pathetic and deserve to be poor.

[Anonymous No.13123309]

>>13123299
kys unironically

[Anonymous No.13123312]

>>13123225

Yes the trial starts in September. Mark the date because it will be the day when people start to realize that CSW is SN but it will be to late.

[Anonymous No.13123337]

This is their latest attempt to defraud people

[Anonymous No.13123363]

>>13123309
I don't even see why this statement should be related to anything adressed in this thread.

>>13123337
Yes this definitely must be Craig and not just someone trying to doge taxes. You are literally retarded.

[Anonymous No.13123365]

>>13123337
Please elaborate schizotard. Tell me how anyone would assume these wallets belonged to satoshi? Your entire story doesn't make sense because all nchain has done is lose money. They are only profitable in the long term.

[Anonymous No.13123371]

>>13123363
you're using gavin's opinion in the OP you fucking brainlet

[Anonymous No.13123383]

>>13123365
>Tell me how anyone would assume these wallets belonged to satoshi? Your entire story doesn't make sense
tell me how anyone would assume this faggot scammer is satoshi when he can't even sign the genesis block
his entire story doesn't make sense
jesus christ give it up

[Anonymous No.13123387]

>>13123383
0 arguments. Nice posts retard.

[Anonymous No.13123399]

>>13123387
my point is none of this guy's charade makes sense
if you can't see my point I understand why you support bchsv

[Anonymous No.13123406]

>>13122533
>satoshi - patents, retardation, faggotery, delusions of grandeur.
Yeah is him, definitely

[Anonymous No.13123407]

>>13123399
>This is their latest attempt to defraud people
>That line of thinking actually makes no sense and here's why
>deflection
>ridicule
>more deflection
lmao

[Anonymous No.13123431]

>>13123407
well he did a fake early block signing before, and had a CIA representative verify it totally legit guys
and you still defend him

[Anonymous No.13123434]

>>13123431
Not defending him just pointing out your shitty argument.

[Anonymous No.13123445]

>>13123407
wonder why that poster paying 5k for old addresses only wants them up until 2010 hmm

[Anonymous No.13123448]

>>13123371
Gavin discussing the tech with the CIA is proof that he is not legitimate? Nice try brainlet.

>>13123399
It makes a lot of sense if you were not a lazy retard, fapping to tranny porn all day. It takes 4-6 hours of research to get to the root of it (For you probably more like 40-60 hours due to your severe brain damage).

[Anonymous No.13123483]

>>13123448
taking money from the CIA and being a thorn in the side of bitcoin ever since
proposing shitty forks and complaining when commit access was revoked
then he comes out of the woodwork to support a faggot scammer and tries to use his credentials
it all stinks

I've been in this since 2012 unironically
it's not even up for discussion his shitty fork of a fork isn't anywhere close to nakamoto consensus
he's a fraud that forged many documents
nobody with any credentials in cryptography knows of him or even respects his forged irrelevant shit
you might trick sub 80iq people maybe you're one youself but just give it up and kill yourself

[BSV will win No.13123505]

Jeff Garzik has been mentioned already but I think Joseph Vaughn Perling has also vouched for Craig being Satoshi, or are my notes wrong?

[Anonymous No.13123507]

>>13123445
>>13123365

[Anonymous No.13123511]

where is he shitposting now that he's banned from twitter?
he used to shitpost all day like a good aussie
is he posting is daily gibberish nonsense on medium now?

[Anonymous No.13123515]

>>13123505
hey namefag, where is craig posting his ideas now?

[Anonymous No.13123524]

>>13123507
the wallets associated with satoshi aren't confirmed so it's a massive grey area
the "proof" he has 1 million coins or whatever is based off certain mining hardware of the time that dominated the first year or two of bitcoin
it solved blocks in a certain pattern a nonce I believe it's called
if that scammer on bitcointalk bought an address associated with this nonce they could try to prove they're satoshi based of some shitty article written a few years ago

[Anonymous No.13123526]

>>13123524
certain mining software*

[Anonymous No.13123533]

>>13123483
>nobody with any credentials in cryptography knows of him or even respects his forged irrelevant shit

Please tell me more about how Ian, Gavin, Jon and Jeff have no credentials in cryptography.

>complaining when commit access was revoked

Core literally threw him out of the project even though Satoshi (CSW) himself gave only Gavin access to Bitcoin at this point. Then they made up a shitty excuse that Gavin was hacked. He proofed that he wasn't but core still did not give him the access back. They just took Bitcoin forcfully over to push their AXA agenda. Anyone not seeing this must be retarded and this is a fact.

[Anonymous No.13123547]

>>13123533
you believe this propaganda?
you got devs who quit the projects and are associated with the CIA vouching for him
and his access was revoked after he wasn't contributing and actually trying to controversially change the protocol
this isn't even a discussion because you do not have nakamoto consensus
slinging bullshit and propaganda doesn't mean anything, bitcoin has the hashing the ecosystem the support bcashsv is a fork of a fork and is more irrelevant than ever

[Anonymous No.13123550]

>>13123505
Yes you are right anon. Joseph even said that he knew it the whole time but couldn't tell aynone yet. He knows Craig personally for a long time.

[Anonymous No.13123566]

>>13123524
If you're stupid enough to believe a random wallet from that time must belong to satoshi then you deserve to lose all your money. If Craig tries pulling it then it's another nail in the coffin. What makes the most sense is someone is trying to evade taxes by saying they were an early adopter.

[Anonymous No.13123575]

>>13123505
"Was it CSW you made that promise to 11 years ago?". Joseph's reply: "Yes, only wish I could repay him for all the years he worked on this without me, I'll do what I can now."

The writing is on the wall. But Joseph probably also works for the FBI, right?>>13123547

[Anonymous No.13123590]

>>13123575
satoshi was so careful and secret to hide his identity but all of a sudden he wants to be known so he can push a fork of a fork
yeah that makes sense buddy

[Anonymous No.13123602]

>>13123590
I won't spoonfeed you god damn brainlet anymore. All the information is easily accessible, look it up or stay poor faggot.

[BSV will win No.13123605]

>>13123515
No idea, he's probably busy with the lawsuit.

>>13123550
>>13123575
Do you have a good URL that shows Joseph thinking Craig is Satoshi? Would be nice to have it saved so I can support my claim in the future.

[Anonymous No.13123620]

>>13122533
Supercringe. I don't disagree with BCash/BSV supporters that feel like Bitcoin BTC has been co-opted by a lot of questionable people and organizations but that turf battle was lost fucking YEARS ago and every single attempt at them trying to reclaim "the real bitcoin" at this point is just so much sour grapes. Get over it. There is nothing sacred about the Bitcoin Whitepaper. It was just an idea that set all of this in motion. If CSW is Satoshi (who even gives a fuck at this point) then he showed up guns blazing about 6 or 7 years too late to make a difference.

[Anonymous No.13123662]

>>13123605
>Do you have a good URL that shows Joseph thinking Craig is Satoshi? Would be nice to have it saved so I can support my claim in the future.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshi-saga-continues-tulip-trust-trustee-expected-to-appear-by-september-says-joseph-vaughnperling-1462467803/

[Anonymous No.13123673]

>>13123620
I am sure a blazing gun of 1M Bitcoin is going to make a difference, no matter what the current situation is.

>>13123605
I don't have the tweet right now but there is an interview with Joseph out there.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshi-saga-continues-tulip-trust-trustee-expected-to-appear-by-september-says-joseph-vaughnperling-1462467803/

[BSV will win No.13123681]

>>13123662
>>13123673
Much obliged!

[Anonymous No.13123709]

Why do these threads only appear during aussie afternoon/evening? Creg, please, stop filling our board with shit.

[Anonymous No.13123728]

>>13123709
I am a quant in London, I move more money a day than you could earn in 100 lifes.

[Anonymous No.13123740]

>>13123673
>I am sure a blazing gun of 1M Bitcoin is going to make a difference, no matter what the current situation is.
It won't, really. There is no amount of money that is going to convince the masses that Bitcoin BTC isn't actually "Bitcoin" at this point.

[Anonymous No.13123780]

>>13123728
Ah, you self-reportedly have a lot of money, this makes me think you're probably right about buying the product of a fraudster and I should buy it to. You also don't sound arrogant at all, your humility is a big + in me deciding to buy your shitcoin. I will proceed to ignore all the obvious signs that this is a scam, anon. Thank you for your 38 threads a day, it looks like that's all it took, 1029 threads and now I'm magically convinced. Congratulations.

[Anonymous No.13123787]

>>13123728
>I am a quant in London, I move more money a day than you could earn in 100 lifes.

working out of the nchain offices, right? neck yourself

[Anonymous No.13123806]

>>13122533 (OP)

Idk about bsv I'm still researching it. But thanks OP for sticking around and answering questions.

[Anonymous No.13123810]

>>13123780
I never said I have a lot of money I said I move a lot of money. You incapability of reading confirm my previous thoughts. You are a serious retard.

[Anonymous No.13123830]

>>13123728
>could earn in 100 lifes.
Okay pajeet

[Anonymous No.13123833]

>>13123810
Ah, so you do not have any significant amount of money despite of having a very lucrative profession. I am further convinced to buy BSV. Looks like Sanjay was right after all, it is the true Bitcoin. I too want to spend all of my considerable salary so that my savings are not at all enlarged by it.

[Anonymous No.13123844]

>>13123728

>I move more money a day than you could earn in 100 lifes.

That's a dick move OP.

[Anonymous No.13123873]

>>13123806
You are on the right track, just keep digging and don't listen to what others say. Try to stay objective.

>>13123833
I also did not say I don't have a lot of money. I just did not comment on it at all. How is this so hard to get? But the evidence of your mental health is piling up.

[Anonymous No.13123934]

>>13122541
imagine being this new and brainwashed

[Anonymous No.13123952]

>>13123299
>but it was BTC back then, now it is BSV
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, sure you did shitskin. why the desperation in these threads then?

face it, you just let crypto pass you buy.

[Anonymous No.13123960]

>>13123873
Ah, so you have an indeterminate amount of money that no one can easily extrapolate from you having a very lucrative profession yet spending it all on shitcoins. This should surely convince even more people to buy BSV, the true bitcoin, as most people also want to have an indeterminate amount of money. Also the fact that someone is very grateful to you for opening thread number 1029 to shill BSV is evidence that the project is interesting and can still attract attention. Everyone reading it should take example of that unknown character and also buy BSV. Not so much the investing part, as they might uncover millions of falsehoods spread by a conspiracy to make the project look like an obvious scam. But the buying part, yes, definitely. Also the rumors that this other poster is also you but using your phone are unfounded. This other user clearly has a different ip and uses a different device and that should be enough to verify that this is indeed a grateful poster that wants to buy your coin as a result of this very unique thread.

[Anonymous No.13123997]

>>13123728
No, you are not.

You are just another anus bleeding BSV bagholder.

[Anonymous No.13124209]

>>13123997
I am probably the only on on this board actually working in finance.

[Anonymous No.13124237]

>>13124209
kek, explains why you're shilling so hard. Must be holding MASSIVE bags. How much you put in, 250k?

[Anonymous No.13124337]

>>13123997
You did not even understand the picture is was a structured note for a client with a notional over 1M. It was a proof for >>13123997
but on a second thought I don't need to proof anything on a Vietnamese shrimp breeding forum.

[Anonymous No.13124358]

>>13124337
Are you having a stroke? Man, just call it a day. We can continue this in tomorrow's BSV shill thread that you will surely open.

[Anonymous No.13124373]

>>13122533
The reason CSW always negs you is because he wants to fuck you.

[Anonymous No.13124411]

>>13122533
I’m grateful for the things he did for BTC. But he fucked up and other people took over. And now he acts like a fucking child and try’s to shill his own BTC rip-off. Don’t fall for this scam.

[Anonymous No.13124500]

Even if CSW was part of Satoshi Nakamoto (and that is a big IF):
a) He was/is just part of it, and cannot unitarily claim what is and what is not bitcoin and what is and what is now Satoshi's Vision.
b) He is a douche in content and form that tries to stop open source development for his own profit (ie patent troll behavior among other).
c) He was never able to prove he can code and basically just talks. An "ideas man", even within the Satoshi team, does not deserve respect.
All things considered, we can pretty much fuck off. And that's not going into explaining why BSV is stupid and a scam.

[BSV will win No.13124662]

>>13123780
the worthless screenshot of the worthless tweet by the worthless compromised wikileaks account appear once again! still no signs of any independent research by wikileaks on the matter

[BSV will win No.13124703]

>>13124209
sorry friend, deleting your post will do you no good:
>>/biz/thread/13122533#p13124209
me and my team have begun tracking down your IRL identity

[Anonymous No.13124726]

>>13124662
Literally kill yourself. The would would thank you.

[Anonymous No.13124776]

I don't think people have or want to do any research on the guy. But yeah, he was probably part of Satoshi, look at all his work before bitcoin, Wright and Kleiman were forensics guys in addition to infosec and peer to peer networking, and Wright always spoke about how security is a matter of economics. They were very pragmatic with the design of bitcoin, unlike Szabos bitgold, which is legitimately ambitious and involves a lot of human intervention and moving parts. I can elaborate further if anyone cares, I've done a lot of research on these men.

IMO, SV has a huge potential upside for a couple reasons:

1) the whole notion of locking down the protocol (we need to build on top of rock, not sand) and not getting bogged down by a centralized dev team

2) if they're correct, and bitcoin can indeed already scale with the original design and OP codes, it will be incredibly efficient at scale and will basically take over everything.

3) patents and IP are the future of crypto whether you like it or not. Anyone trying to argue that it "goes against the spirit of bitcoin" is basically hoping that open source altruism will save them, and is in for a rude awakening. See:

>>13124500

>He is a douche in content and form that tries to stop open source development for his own profit (ie patent troll behavior among other).

The problem with this argument is that it ultimately gives power to shitcoins. nChain has opened up all their IP to BSV developers, for free. Patents are only a problem for competing coins.

>He was never able to prove he can code and basically just talks. An "ideas man", even within the Satoshi team, does not deserve respect.

If you really think he can't code or knows nothing about computer science, you haven't done your research.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13124830]

>>13123602
yes its all public knowledge how creg tried to scam people and failed spectacuarly

[Anonymous No.13124846]

>>13124703
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.13124869]

>>13122541
Bingo

[BSV will win No.13124889]

>>13124726
But would would chuck would?

[Anonymous No.13125046]

>>13122533
this mf looks like the antichrist

[Anonymous No.13125060]

>>13122533

Please stop posting this. Everybody left on the board knows craig wright is a scammer. Just stop.

[Anonymous No.13125076]

>>13123830
kek

[Anonymous No.13125364]

>>13122533
so what bitcoin = fail

[Anonymous No.13125372]

>>13123312
Unironically this

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13126188]

>>13125046
i would sooner believe that than him being satoj unironically

[Anonymous No.13126202]

Yes I believe CSW is satoshi

[Anonymous No.13126225]

>>13122533

I WILL NEVER BUY YOU DIRTY SCAMMY BAGS.

N E V E R

[Anonymous No.13126235]

>>13122533
>some of you guys are ok . dont buy bitcoin tomorrow
oh sheeeeiiit

[Anonymous No.13126309]

not sure if these "CSW is Satoshi" threads are srs

Part of me believes it's all just larp


Part of me believes some of you faggots actually believe CSW is satoshi
And if that's the case, go all in on SV and never look back and im gonna sit with my BTC bags being comfy as fuck while you cry that you lost everything in 10 years

[Anonymous No.13126319]

>>13123483
What do you think of this current bear market, and what are your predictions for next bull market our fellow 2012 crypto OG


Bestow your wisdom upon us about what you actually think about all this price action and market cycles and shit
srs

[Anonymous No.13126330]

>>13124337
The fuck did I just read

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13126539]

>>13126330
sperging sv cuck you get used to it here

[Anonymous No.13126901]

Much better to have XRC.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13127755]

>>13126901
>long list of worthless shitcoins
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Bitcoin SV (BSV)

[Anonymous No.13127776]

Thank you for the brownpill.

[Anonymous No.13128381]

we're reaching levels of creg unseen