If decentralized oracles are so valuable then what makes you think chainlink will survive against competitors flooding the market once there's a bubble? Unlike blockchains, middleware is easily replaceable.

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Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:00:40 2019 No.13059520 [Reply] [Original]

If decentralized oracles are so valuable then what makes you think chainlink will survive against competitors flooding the market once there's a bubble? Unlike blockchains, middleware is easily replaceable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:08:03 2019 No.13059540 >>13059520 Because the advantages of a decentralized system is seen best under a network affect. You tell me which oracle network is building its network as large as chainlink.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:16:24 2019 No.13059561 File: 230 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20190225-200153.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13059540 BSV will have a native decentralized oracle built in runing free of charge. Patented. Also stiff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:18:02 2019 No.13059567 >>13059561 Free of charge? Who would be responsible for providing the information?

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:19:25 2019 No.13059571

and therein is the problem.

chainlink has zero network effects, because all of these oracle middlemen are going to be pulling data form the exact same apis and services. it will be a race to the bottom for both fees and friction, likely leading to solutions not requiring a completely separate centralized funding token, but the native token of the platform where the smart contracts are actually being run.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:25:06 2019 No.13059590

>>13059571
Lol, yes there is no value in what Link brings to the process and they are no different than any other decentralized Oracle platform, except for the work they have put into smartcontract development and TEE. You retard, stop with the lame fud.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:26:08 2019 No.13059593 >>13059561 >banned from Twitter OH NONONONONNONONO

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:26:58 2019 No.13059597
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>>13059520
OH NO NO NO
He unironically thought that a middlewear shitcoin, thats been 40 cents for two years, that has no use-case, whose team presents in rank rape-dungeons, who mainnet continuously delays, whose inventor is an obese russian philosophy major, whose only use after two years is a fucking alarm clock, a json parser, a band-aid solution, a scam coin, could be no more than a cup of coffee (as said in whitepaper), would unironically make him rich

oh no no no look at these dudes

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:31:51 2019 No.13059612

>>13059590
if you would stop thinking with your feminine emotional brain you would realize that nothing i've said is fud, but simply how these networks work.

chainlink isn't like bitcoin, or ethereum, there's nothing on the chain itself that has any value, its entirely about the data, and the data is there for everybody to use and verify. their only chance at getting any kind of a network is exclusive data on their platform, which consequently is unverifiable and therefore can only come from one source, and also doesn't require the link token because of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:32:29 2019 No.13059615 >>13059597 G-go back to discord f-fudder

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:35:11 2019 No.13059620 File: 201 KB, 1080x1111, 1552880019965.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13059615 Which discord? The one where they are talking about how sirgay doesnt know what he's doing with the 650mil linkies? Lmao!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:40:37 2019 No.13059641 >>13059612 I think you are full of shit and Link is key to the future adoption and execution of Smartcontracts. TEE is the key, stay poor Fudder.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:47:01 2019 No.13059672

>>13059620
>ETHDenver
HA HA HA, you just made me google "Denver" - and it turns out that it is actually a real place, a city in America.
HA HA HA.
I always thought it was something akin to Narnia, just with a city build where all the inhabitants are rednecks. Like a Redneck-Metropolitan.. HA HA HA.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:48:44 2019 No.13059683 >>13059567 creg will from his mobile phone STIFF

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 05:50:54 2019 No.13059694 File: 2 KB, 125x92, 36547568234325436.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13059620 what is this, explain yourself!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:02:39 2019 No.13059744 >>13059561 >BSV will have a native decentralized oracle "if X then Y" is not an oracle. Also, are BSV nodes going to do both on-chain and off-chain consensus at the same time? Fucking why? That's like having cops be taxi drivers too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:03:41 2019 No.13059747 >>13059620 Whoa, discord user "Sergey's Shirt" said THAT?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:14:04 2019 No.13059777 Sergey is an absolute beast and ready to literally crush competitors, with a lead pipe if necessary. Combat ability is underrated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:16:34 2019 No.13059794 File: 396 KB, 1053x1425, 1546999042139.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13059777 checked

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:30:24 2019 No.13059853

>>13059641
think what you want, but you can't argue that the network-effects of chainlink are nothing like that of self-sufficient cryptocurrencies. it relies on other parties and other networks for both ends of the pipe. and is therefore especially vulnerable to competitors in a way that self-sufficient platforms like ethereum can't be.

>stay poor
thanks for your concern but i've already "made it", in late adopter parlance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:33:03 2019 No.13059869 >>13059520 Dude Starbucks are just gonna build their own oracle! They’ll just go straight to the source!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:34:28 2019 No.13059877 >>13059777 historically he has got 0 adoption and released no product in 2 years so I highly doubt that. He's not gonna turn around and deliver some magic after being mediocre for 2 years.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:40:49 2019 No.13059909

>>13059877
>mediocre
He cornered the TEE smart contract market by acquiring TownCrier, and basically dominates the entire crypto oracle space with all the partners and users lined up, including what was once the biggest name in oracles: oraclize.

Get your head out your ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:44:36 2019 No.13059923 >>13059909 >dominates the entire crypto oracle space with 0 adoption or product they dominate nothing... expect maybe some PR scam sites.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:46:27 2019 No.13059932

>>13059909
you need to understand that these partnerships will never amount to anything. It's just marketing scam. Remember when Chainlink paid to have cointelegraph and friends to publish articles mentioning them and swift? What has that amounted to? Nothing. It was a scam.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:47:13 2019 No.13059937 >>13059932 funny i thought they dont market

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:48:20 2019 No.13059944 >>13059909 Town crier is a university project, any other team develop their own TEE

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:49:48 2019 No.13059953 >>13059937 brainlets think they dont market, but PR and partnerships is pure paid marketing and scam, which is what Chainlink is and always been all about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:53:31 2019 No.13059972 >>13059923 >>13059932 >there's no adoption >there are partnerships Please select one.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:53:47 2019 No.13059974
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>>13059953
Is this actual FUD? Mainnet is launching soon and a never-before-seen technology is about to hit a market with billion dollar partners lined up to use it, who’s token price is directly related to network usage.

Seems like a good bet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:55:05 2019 No.13059986 >>13059972 adoption is real people using it partnerships are a medium article and press release name dropping for marketing and then doing nothing kys brainlet

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:55:11 2019 No.13059987 >>13059944 t. someone who doesn't know what Town Crier is, or who Ari Jels or Fan Zhang are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:56:13 2019 No.13059992 >>13059986 >adoption is real people using it Right. And even when mainnet isn't even out yet, there's a list of big and small names already lined up to use Chainlink. You're just digging that hole deeper and deeper.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:56:32 2019 No.13059993

>>13059974
>Mainnet is launching soon
kek no it's not, they don't even know how to make decentralized oracles. If they launch mainnet now it's just gonna be another useless coin that does nothing that instantly dumps 99%. I suggest you kys now or you're in for some harsh dose of reality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 06:57:34 2019 No.13059998 >>13059992 >there's a list of big and small names already lined up to use Chainlink. incorrect, there's a bunch of people chainlink paid to create PR for marketing and that have 0 intention of ever using chainlink.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:00:35 2019 No.13060014

>>13059998
>incorrect
ZeppelinOS, ClinTex, Accord Project, OpenLaw, Market Protocol, GameDex, Brave New Coin, Web3 Foundation (Polkadot), Morpheus Network, bZx, Kaleido, Hydrogen, Wanchain, Kaiko, Rtrade, Olympus Labs, Katalassos, NakaChain + Bodhi, Celer, Set Protocol, Synthetix, IC3, Origami, Factom, Oraclize, …

Just off the top of my head.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:02:00 2019 No.13060021 >>13059520 Because they have to use chainlink to actually be decentralised. See: provable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:02:03 2019 No.13060022 >>13060014 LITERALLY WHO H O

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:03:43 2019 No.13060030 >>13059993 >if they launch mainnet now >will immediately dump You should realize chainlink is about to automate things never before automated. You’re either trolling to keep the price down, or not very intelligent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:04:44 2019 No.13060034 >>13060022 Imagine not knowing Accord, OpenLaw, IC3, BNC, Web3, Oraclize, etc.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:04:50 2019 No.13060036

>>13060014
yep, all these companies "partnered" with chainlink only for PR. They gain exposure from the news and have 0 intention of ever using chainlink. I work in the industry, that's literally all they do. Companies get paid to "partner" or just do it for the cross promotion. It literally means nothing. You're getting scammed now just like you got scammed when you read those paid articles on shill sites mentioning swift and link. You think it's not "marketing" but that's just cause you're low IQ and you're about to get scammed and dumped on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:05:12 2019 No.13060038 >>13059853 Yeah competitors will just build a network of thousands of node operators over night

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:05:59 2019 No.13060042 >>13060030 you should realize that they are nowhere near to have any meaningful technology, and most likely never will. It's all marketing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:07:15 2019 No.13060047 >>13060036 >all these companies "partnered" with chainlink only for PR Source?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:07:20 2019 No.13060048 >>13060038 they dont have thousands of nodes and most likely never will. You're literally acting like chainlink already has a product and already has adoption when in fact it has neither. Your IQ is literally sub 80.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:08:15 2019 No.13060057 >>13060048 >10 posts by this ID Why are you wasting your time like this, talking about something you think is shit? How empty and meaningless is your life right now?

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:10:41 2019 No.13060066

>>13060047
kek there's no source retard, it's just what every crypto company does. I'm sure this happens in other industries as well but I've worked for an ICO agency and literally all they did all day was fabricate these "partnerships" for cross promotion and social proof. Chainlink is just another one of them. You can get pretty much anything publish on cointelegraph or any other source for 5k, which is what Link did to raise 32mil with their fraudulent mention of swift.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:11:43 2019 No.13060070 >>13060057 >Why are you wasting your time like this I enjoy BTFO brainlets with bad arguments. I destroy them, then they change topics like you just did. kys.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:12:10 2019 No.13060074 can't believe oraclize got cucked >muh distributed

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:12:19 2019 No.13060075 >>13060066 >there's no source So this is just you trying to convince us? Why are you spending so much effort trying to convince us? >>13060070 And by "BTFO" you mean spew bs with zero source?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:13:45 2019 No.13060080 >>13060075 kek your "sources" are literally paid shills trying to scam you. Enjoy trusting them and getting rekt when LINK delivers nothing and slowly exit scams

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:14:46 2019 No.13060084 >>13060080 >are literally paid shills trying to scam you As opposed to you who deeply care about me?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:17:00 2019 No.13060094 >>13060084 I've made it clear I enjoy BTFO brainlets like yourself but you're obviously too dumb to understand things only stated a single time. Maybe I should publish a medium article and "partner" with literally who so that you can believe it kek.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:18:07 2019 No.13060101 >>13060094 By BTFO you mean "look out for our wellbeing by warning us about a scam"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:22:43 2019 No.13060112 >>13060014 Literally Who The list

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:23:32 2019 No.13060115 >>13060112 Imagine not knowing Accord, OpenLaw, IC3, BNC, Web3, Oraclize, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:46:55 2019 No.13060202 >>13060036 Idiot Alert

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 07:59:26 2019 No.13060242 >>13060022 >>13060112 Cope: The post

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 08:08:17 2019 No.13060277 >wants to invest in oracle solutions >buys chainlink at bloated meme price instead of Verity at the ground level >VTY beats link to the punch and goes 100x >buys into Verity It's the biz way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 08:46:55 2019 No.13060457 >>13060277 >Verity Not an oracle you dip. It's a voting platform, it doesn't actually connect to anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 09:02:36 2019 No.13060559 File: 21 KB, 734x256, CSWTweet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13059561 Mfw I have to pay Craig royalties simply for respiring.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 09:06:16 2019 No.13060584

>>13059520
First decentralized oracles would have to exist. They don't. It's an API aggregation service that "averages" the API responses. Also known as - something other services have already been doing for a long time. Link is the biggest joke ever and those of you who still don't understand how stupid it is, will get rekt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 09:12:48 2019 No.13060625 File: 2.19 MB, 3024x4032, 1550509240833.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13060584 Holy fuck how could I have not realised this... Just sold.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 09:13:29 2019 No.13060631 >>13060584 >oracles are an API aggregation system Lol, but no.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 09:23:22 2019 No.13060691 >>13060014 yikes

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 09:45:21 2019 No.13060808 >>13060057 >How empty and meaningless is your life right now? >16 posts by this ID late. adopter. cringe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 09:51:47 2019 No.13060859 >>13059571 >all of these oracle middlemen are going to be pulling data form the exact same apis and services You mean like how bitcoin miners confirm the same transactions? >>13060808 >talking about something you believe in is cringe Cringe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 11:38:30 2019 No.13061692 is the 2nd pivotaltracker for the UI already news?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 11:49:31 2019 No.13061790 >>13061692 Priced in

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 12:17:33 2019 No.13061993 >>13059520 First mover is likely to have the biggest and the most reliable network of nodes. That's why LTC is shit compared to BTC despite being way faster than the latter

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 12:18:36 2019 No.13062004 >>13060014 SWIFT

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 12:27:22 2019 No.13062094 File: 1.31 MB, 810x609, 1552553842951.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW4YL-u6oag

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 12:35:16 2019 No.13062152 >>13059520 Psssssssssst it’s an unsolvable problem

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 12:54:58 2019 No.13062330 >>13059747 Well, he is pretty close to the action. .. Get it? Close to the action Aayyy

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 13:12:44 2019 No.13062527 File: 251 KB, 600x800, 1530496842869.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13059794 better version we dont like memes that portray sergey in a negative light

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 19 14:02:52 2019 No.13063009 >>13059877 Been about a year and 6 months ico was sep. 2017. In 6 more months is a long time also you can use chainlink today on production the oracle just won’t be completely decentralized.

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 14:20:20 2019 No.13063152

>>13060014

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>Literally hundreds of partnerships

Anonymous Tue Mar 19 14:28:36 2019 No.13063224
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>>13059520
Chainlink just sounds silly. I googled it and all that comes back are images of fences. How the fuck is that have something to do with computers. And oracles? Please what is it 8th century BC and were gonna go ask Pythia whats the weather like in Ohio. Come on guys. Lets all go sacrifice a few virgins so that we can get some magical big mac eating rolypoly to tell us the spot price of silver. DELUSIONAL

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