/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.13043875]

How much research have you done on this man and his work?

Are you pro or anti SV?

Why?

[Anonymous No.13043916]

>>13043875
I was ambivalent until I noticed tons of desperate countershilling by a certain namefag. Considering grabbing a suicide insurance bag.
The one thing that sets off my alarm bells wrt BSV is that those attacking it make weak technical arguments and focus on fluff or "muh faketoshi/CP." IME this is a sign of an irrational worldview and it is markets that have a lot of irrational participants where money can be made easily.

[Anonymous No.13043922]

i read some articles, see how confident he is, looked at who owns what patents and for what ideas.
i bought bsv with everything i have, lots of coins are going to get decimated, corporations like amazon, ibm etc. basically all the big boys and the banks have a lot of patents to certain high value coins, at some point there will be a blood bath for them.
the only company competing for patents with these corporations is nchain.

[Anonymous No.13043932]

>>13043875
thousands of hours. you can start here

https://github.com/StackmyBCHup/SatoshiTimeLine

I am all in BSV, I have nearly a 1000 now

[Anonymous No.13043940]

>>13043916
>muh faketoshi
It's very shortsighted to call that "irrational". If his claim to being Satoshi is in fact fraudulent, that is a 100% fatal problem for BSV. The chances of long term success for a coin made by an actual con artist are zero, if the con is discovered and proven.

[Anonymous No.13043975]

>>13043875
>Investing in a egomaniac

[Anonymous No.13044047]

>>13043875
>Claims to be Satoshi.
>Can't even sign a message with Satoshi's key.
>Claims he owes proof to no one cause he's Satoshi
>People are retarded enough to believe him and invest in a proven liar, scammer and manchild on twitter

[Anonymous No.13044054]

>>13043940
I agree that if he turns out to be a complete fraud BSV will go to zero, but that is still somewhat of a big "if"
The problem I have is how certain everyone seems to be that he is "faketoshi" based only on the fact that he hasn't signed a message publicly with the genesis block privkey.
Let's assume for the sake of argument that CSW actually unironically is Satoj. The knowledge that CSW is 100% definitely the real deal is actually quite valuable in this market, so it makes sense from a "ruthless capitalist" standpoint to keep the information proprietary and only disclose it to those who are willing to pay for it.
And that's just one of an infinite number of possible explanations for his unwillingness to publicly sign. There may be other legal/tax reasons that we don't know.
I don't know if CSW actually is Satoj, but I do know that those who say he definitely isn't have several gaps in their reasoning.

[Anonymous No.13044083]

>>13044054
>based only on the fact that he hasn't signed a message publicly with the genesis block privkey.
That's hardly the only reason people don't believe him. The main reason I don't believe him is due to the fiasco where he made a big deal of claiming he would give proof, then provided a quasi-carefully constructed non-proof that didn't stand up to scrutiny. Sorry, but that is the behavior of a con artist.

[Anonymous No.13044110]

>>13044083

Why does he owe you anything?

[Anonymous No.13044119]

>>13044083
Yeah, it certainly looks bad. I'll give you that.
There are still other potentially valid reasons why he might have pulled that little number though, including the emergence of the Kleiman suit and the ATO action against him. Maybe he panicked after talking with a lawyer or tax attorney and wanted to poison the well of the case for himself as Satoshi.
I don't know anymore, anon. The crypto rabbit hole is so deep and there are so many tunnels...

[Anonymous No.13044122]

>>13044110
What the fuck even is this argument? Of course he doesn't owe me anything. He's a con artist and a liar, but of course he's free to do whatever he wants.

[Anonymous No.13044127]

The idiot got caught doctoring old blog post to mKe it seem like he was working on crypto when in fact he didn't know a thing about it

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13044134]

>>13043875
>How much research have you done on this man and his work?
a lot compared to most retards on the scene

[Anonymous No.13044135]

>>13044119
My rule of thumb is, if it smells, stay away. It's not worth it. It literally makes no difference whether you make it with one coin or a different one, and not exposing yourself to the risk of being literally scammed is one clear way of improving your odds.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13044140]

>>13044110
it's how business works if he wants the ridiculing to stop he needs to provide proof not emotional appeals like a fucking child.

[Anonymous No.13044154]

Anti, BCH is unironically better version of BSV.

[Anonymous No.13044190]

>>13043916
They should go ahead and call it BitcoinDK

[Anonymous No.13044201]

>>13043916
How do you propose that people will run BSV nodes when they make blocks gigabytes big? Blockchain database sounds like a great idea until you realize that nobody except Google will be able to run a node lol.

[Anonymous No.13044217]

>>13044201
Big companies will.... it means they’re payments will be accepted faster due to lower ping .

[Anonymous No.13044223]

>>13044140

What business do you have with him?

What value does the "crypto community" have for CSW?

[Anonymous No.13044232]

>>13043932
>He finally pointed out that Bitcoin (BSV) was issued in 2009, and BTC was issued in 2017 by airdrop

[Anonymous No.13044238]

>>13044110
The absolute state

[Anonymous No.13044239]

>>13044217
Why is lower ping an incentive for big companies to maintain BSV blockchain?

[Anonymous No.13044264]

>>13044239
Propagate transactions quicker to the network . Also implying they have some sort of stake in mining . Also big corps want bitcoin to prosper . I imagine some law will be enabled to force companies over a certain profit margin to spend on nodes.

[Anonymous No.13044267]

>>13044264
>I imagine some law will be enabled to force companies over a certain profit margin to spend on nodes.
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.13044310]

>>13044267
?. A node is 20k. Do you know how much money a company will save removing a fraud department and processing a bunch of other things on bitcoin?

[Anonymous No.13044314]

>>13044267
Pro tip. It’s more than 20k

[Anonymous No.13044332]

>>13044310
>>13044314
What does that have to do with laws requiring companies to spend money on nodes? Craziest thing I've heard in a while

[Anonymous No.13044340]

>>13044332
Just my opinion.

[Anonymous No.13044384]

>>13044332
https://youtu.be/v1_gxvx_QGo

13:08

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13044436]

>>13044223
he want's our respect and to listen to him quiet obviously but he only makes wild claims and pathetic emotional appeals when called out. that's not how it works. if he wants us to stop making fun of his scammer ass he needs to provide proof of his claims.

that is our business with him. believing is not an option "don't trust! verify!"

[Anonymous No.13044454]

>>13044384
Craig makes a lot of moral arguments about how people should help and contribute and build things and make the world a better place, but it's all rather unconvincing coming from a con artist

[Anonymous No.13044464]

>>13044454
Ok. So you don’t have a ration argument and just resort to ad hominem attacks. I can smell your intelligence from here.

[Anonymous No.13044471]

>>13044384
cringe so hard watching him
he's laughable

[Anonymous No.13044492]

>>13044464
It's not ad hominem because we're not having an argument in the first place. Your video link is unrelated to what we were talking about. Craig isn't making an argument in that clip either, other than "do this thing I want or fuck off". So I'm not sure what you're even trying to do here

[Anonymous No.13044498]

Barely any

Don't care

I don't waste my time

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13044506]

>>13044492
>do this thing I want or fuck off
that's like his usual stance to be sure
but when you say okay i will now fuck off best of luck! he just keeps coming after you rambling about you not believing him.

[Anonymous No.13044671]

FUCK THIS SCAMMER AND HIS SCAM.
And fuck you looser who post every day CSW shit

[Anonymous No.13044679]

>>13044492
>con artist
You are trying to invalidate his opinion by subjecting your own beliefs upon him.
>argument
a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong.

Not sure what your trying to do here

[Anonymous No.13044712]

>>13044679
You may have missed the first half of this thread but I already explained why I believe he is a con artist. Since I believe that, I have no interest in what he has to say.
"Ad hominem" is a logical fallacy, deployed in a logical argument, in which you attack the person giving the argument instead of the argument itself. Since we were not debating anything other than whether it's reasonable to expect laws to be passed requiring companies to buy BSV nodes, it's silly to accuse me of using an ad hominem fallacy. All I was doing is reiterating my initial point from earlier in this thread that the guy is a fraud.

[Anonymous No.13044714]

>>13043875
I’m posting right now from the year 2025 listen I genuinely care about anons financial futures. It turns out Craig’s patent held true and sergey has to close down chainlink, you were right about oracles being the future but they were built on bsv, BTC does not exist anymore and 1 bsv is 200k but yang also hyper inflated the usd so its about the purchasing power of 25k. 4chan will also be shut down this year due to the NZ massacre, image boards move to meta net which becomes a big part of the adoption of BSV

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13044720]

>>13044679
>You are trying to invalidate his opinion by subjecting your own beliefs upon him.
rofl most people discard his opinion on the basis his intentions are clearly fraudulent. but from time to time we shortly entertain his ideas and find them unreasonable or impractical at best outright idiotic and dangerous at worst.

[Anonymous No.13044923]

>>13043875
Look at this literal gibberish he scribbled on this glass. Imagine wanting to so badly signal intelligence you stage a picture like this with scribbled nonsense.

[Anonymous No.13044929]

He might be satoshi if satoshi has multiple personality disorder. Craig acts literally nothing like satoshi did. Hes just another Australian shitposter, what have Australians ever done in history but shitpost.

[Anonymous No.13044994]

>>13043875
Seeing as how he’s not Satoshi, it should really be called BCI (bitcoin Craig’s interpretation).

I think he’s highly intelligent and that causes his blind spots of where he’s retarded to be amplified.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13045023]

>>13044994
>I think he’s highly intelligent
questionable but not impossible. many psychopaths are.
the problem is he is a compulsive liar and an abusive drunk asshole. so it's impossible to engage him intellectually.

>"Wright’s mother had told me about her son’s long-standing habit of adding bits on to the truth, just to make it bigger. ‘When he was a teenager,’ she said, ‘he went into the back of a car on his bike. It threw him through the window of a parked car. That’s where his scar comes from. His sister accompanied him to the hospital and he’s telling the doctor that he’s had his nose broken twenty or so times, and the doctor is saying “You couldn’t possibly have had it broken.” And Craig says: “I sew myself up when I get injured.”’ What his mother said connected with something I’d noticed. In what he said, he often went further than he needed to; further than he ought to have done. He appeared to start with the truth, and then, slowly, he would inflate his part until the whole story suddenly looked weak."

[Anonymous No.13045191]

>>13044994
Its not even his interpretation, he's ripping off desantis

[Anonymous No.13045337]

>>13043875
Craigs sole purpose is to tear every coin down and get everyone to buy BSV. But, his patents aren't worth shit in a decentrazlized open source world and his other claims, hmm, well who knows.


1. his reasoning of being Satoshi is that he implied he is one of the BTC creators or original team but that the other team members have died. He believes that the sole surviving partner then becomes Satoshi Nakamoto. This was on bad boys of crypto podcast These were his words.

2. i personally believe that the creator of BTC died. His name was Hal Finney. He was the first person to receive a Bitcoin. He lived next door to a man named Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto in Ca. When Hal Finney died, the same week Satoshi nakamotos account was "hacked" and password was changed on one of his forums. Clearly a family member or someone close took over his account. Hal Finney was Satoshi, too many breadcrumbs.

3. proving that Craig was with the original team is more complicated and its possible someone close to Hal Finney took over which would negate any claims of a partner becoming Satoshi nakamoto. hence why most of Satoshis funds still haven't moved.

4.craig possibly could know Hal Finney was Satoshi and looks at this as an opportunity. Basically a total scum bag move.

Anyways.

Hes intellegent. but BSV, i havn't done my research on it. To me, looks just like everything else. Either it will get adopted or wont.

The smart play is Chainlink. All the BTC whales I know have been purchasing OTC LINK off market for the past 6 months. They understand that this space is moving from currency to network. LINK is the network.

[Anonymous No.13045354]

>>13045337
>his patents aren't worth shit in a decentrazlized open source world

Stopped read right there. Too bad the world is real and not decentralized

[Anonymous No.13045420]

>>13044054
>if he turns out to be a complete fraud
>if
this guy's twitter feed and middle school-tier lies should be more than enough to dissuade any sane-minded person to avoid any project of his

pic related

[Anonymous No.13045434]

Blatant scammer

Anyone heavy in bch / bsv deserves to get completely fucked for supporting a conman

The absolute state

[Anonymous No.13045443]

>>13043875

I am pro SV.

The thing to understand is that this isn't really just about Craig. This is about you, this is about me, this is about our beliefs. This is about the structure of reality itself.

Our reality has literally split into multiple parallel time tracks (movies) that are simultaneously occurring. You see this in politics with how polarized it has gotten and how people can't seem to make up their minds about whether a particular person or group is good or bad, or what story or narrative of events is the true one. The secret is, there is no real external truth to any of this, as physical reality is really just a projection in our own consciousness and will automatically reflect whatever our strongest beliefs are. As such, the way we experience reality as it unfolds as positive or negative entirely depends on what definitions and beliefs we are holding.

Bitcoin is actually a technological reflection of something bigger. The Bitcoin network is a cross section extrusion of a geometric matrix from a higher dimension into this dimension of spacetime. The original term used for the blockchain was actually the timechain and if you look at the early source code from 2008 you will see this. Bitcoin, in the form of the original design, exhibits quantum mechanical properties and as it scales it develops into a hive-mind network of artificial intelligence that hyper connects and coordinates all human activity to allow it to operate at higher frequencies, in order to assist in stabilizing our timeline and accelerating our evolution from the 3rd to the 4th "density" or frequency range of consciousness.

This is why there can be no proof. Craig is simultaneously Satoshi and a fraud, and you will see the one or the other depending on the point of view you are taking. He is whoever you say he is. With that in mind, make the choice for yourself and decide what you want to buy into. It's your projection after all.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13045448]

>>13045354
his patents are worthless in the real world alright only in a weird ass curry fantasy world they worth a damn.

[Anonymous No.13045457]

>>13045443
>Our reality has literally split into multiple parallel time tracks (movies) that are simultaneously occurring.
>This is why there can be no proof. Craig is simultaneously Satoshi and a fraud, and you will see the one or the other depending on the point of view you are taking.
This is the level of cognitive dissonance required to be a BSV bagholder

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13045463]

>>13045443
>The thing to understand is that this isn't really just about Craig.
call me when he is out of the picture and you fags are over the idiotic delusion that your curry poo coin is the real bitcoin then we can talk.
>The Bitcoin network is a cross section extrusion of a geometric matrix from a higher dimension into this dimension of spacetime.
nah i take it back

[Anonymous No.13045508]

>>13045448
>meanwhile in reality
every big corporation is racing to patent blockchain technology with nchain in the lead
>https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/03/13/data-china-is-patenting-all-the-blockchain-tech-despite-banning-cryptocurrency/

[Anonymous No.13045541]

I barely have to do research. You can just watch this retard shitpost on twitter all day and realize he’s an idiot. As soon he take about any area you’re familiar with (for me it was law) you realize he’s a dumbass. I’m sure he can trick a bunch of retards who know absolutely nothing about anything though.

[Anonymous No.13045564]

>>13045443
Thanks just bought 100k.

[Anonymous No.13045598]

>>13045541
>I am proud of doing no research and basing my thesis entirely on Twitter

[Anonymous No.13045613]

>>13045443
preserved for eternity
https://bitstagram.bitdb.network/#raw_f2a694fb2aa1fb55f4d0fb3cef7c4e2bd46319cc25662b422858a9e45dda9724

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13045784]

>>13045508
>every big corporation is racing to patent blockchain
too bad for them

[Anonymous No.13045808]

>>13045443

Very based

[Anonymous No.13045810]

Ok so, besides showing the characteristics of a sociopath. He's basically claiming to be Satoshi without giving prove trough signing the genesis block. He says he doesn't owe you that prove. Ok but then he does go back and alter blog posts and forge documents to prove he's Satoshi.

So either;
He's blatantly lieing and he's a scammer
OR
He's playing a high level of chess that one could only see him playing if you actually with 100% certainty knew that he is Satoshi.

My best bet is to assume that he isn't Satoshi. And if he is Satoshi and has game theory knowledge then he knows its my best bet to bet he isn't Satoshi. But maybe I'm overestimating him. And he's just a scammer.

So w/e. it's like he already won. but he's a shitposting sociopath so I don't believe him.

[Anonymous No.13045821]

sorry, I'm blockchain agnostic

[Anonymous No.13045868]

>>13045810
Ian Griggs testimony alone is proof enough that CSW is Satoshi

[Anonymous No.13045878]

>>13045868
who's Ian Griggs?

[Anonymous No.13045886]

>>13043875
He forked BCH instead of going off BTC. He did this because he doesn't have enough BTC to make cloning his stash worthwhile. The man just needs shit to sell to support his extravagant lifestyle and is exploiting his small amount of celebrity to print money. He is a scammer.

[Anonymous No.13045904]

>>13044110
lmfao you fucking retarded aspie
he made the fucking claim, nobody else was demanding him to come out as satoshi
do you not understand burden of proof? craig supposedly has a degree in law, so even he knows that

[Anonymous No.13045929]

>>13045868
Ok I just looked it up. still not sure who he is. But verbal testimonies are doubtful at best. He could have been blackmailed to make those statements.

There's a very simple way he can prove he is Satoshi, but he doesn't want to do that. Instead it's just verbal testimonies that could have been paid for or simply blackmailed. We all know what kind of shady shit goes on crypto, so assuming this isn't far-fetched at all. And if CSW is so set on proving himself Satoshi he has a very easy and direct option to do so. But he doesn't do that.

[Anonymous No.13045971]

>>13045929
>CSW must sign publicly or else he is scammer
This meme has already expired, NPC Anon #574389. Please update your script ASAP for the latest talking points.

[Anonymous No.13046034]

>>13043875
None. No research unless you count reading his shitposting as research. I started off thinking he was an idiot. Then I had an epiphany and realized that because we are in clown world timeline, Craig has all the power.

I bought a nice little bag which is currently 5% of my holdings.

Then when the Aussie shitposter wiped out those muzzies in Christchurch, I bought some more since it shows me the power of being a shitposter.

I invest based on Clownworld causality theory.

[Anonymous No.13046054]

>>13045354

So like, if you had a patent for bitcoin and other blockchain techs running peer to peer. And you wanted to sue. Who do you go after and how do you stop it? you cant.

The real coins in this space is world powered. craig can't stop shit.

[Anonymous No.13046070]

>>13045929
>Remember, I've been around the block. I built Ricardo, I assisted Gary on SOX, I invented Ricardian Contracts, I co-invented or re-discovered triple entry, I worked on a lot of other things which probably don't reach the reader because they're too ex-discipline (like OpenPGP, AES, identity, dispute resolution, PKI,security,social finance,R3's Corda...). I know when someone is talking crap, when someone's drowning in their own sandbox, and when someone is brilliant.

He's being modest there. He literally invented financial cryptography

http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001617.html

[Anonymous No.13046071]

>>13045354

Too bad, there was a lot of valuable information in that thread.

Stay poor fren.

[Anonymous No.13046075]

>>13043875
TAKE THE CRAIG PILL

[Anonymous No.13046164]

Controversy for a coin creator has been nothing but good once it crosses a certain threshold. "Justin" Sun is a good example.

TRON is bullshit but it mooned hard anyways. The controversy only exposed it to more people who would be susceptible to whatever way Sun was trying to influence people.

SV has a dedicated shitposter prolong it up. I'm in.

[Anonymous No.13046185]

>>13046070
I don't find it wise to base my investment decision on the yes/no of one individual. Whatever his past is, it doesn't convince me.

[Anonymous No.13046228]

>>13043875
SIGN IT YOU CUNT

[Anonymous No.13046262]

>>13046070
Why does this faggot write exactly like every single /biz/ larper?

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13046324]

>>13045929
>But verbal testimonies are doubtful at best.
don't forget creg bamboozled a lot of people
don't forget $signiture

[Anonymous No.13046330]

>>13046262
Give him more credit than that. He is in the top 5% of LARPers at least.
Incidentally, I just recieved word that 5% of LARPers on /biz/ aren't actually LARPers but real people. Funny.

[Anonymous No.13046421]

>>13046324
Yes, or he actually is Satoshi, hates us all and acts like this to fuck us all over. Which isn't farfetched either since he's Aussie and he litterly said he doesn't like the people in this space.

[Anonymous No.13046451]

>>13043932
>thousands of hours
and you didn't bother to fix the urls?

[Anonymous No.13046488]

>>13046185
Ian Griggs, Gavin Andresen and Jon Matonis independently confirmed that CSW is SN. They are three of the most respected cryptographers on this planet.

[Anonymous No.13046527]

>>13046488
>They are three of the most respected cryptographers on this planet.
I doubt it

[Anonymous No.13046621]

>>13046488
He might have shown them incredible evidence they believed to be credible. Look, I don't care who testifies and vouches for this guy. Everything is backwards.

He says he fought pedophiles and human traffickers. He's now in business with a person who was suspected to traffick humans. The Bitcoin protocol is released as open-source and permisionless. He wants a closed-source and permissioned blockchain. He says he's Satoshi, gives no prove to back up his claims. Even goes as far as forging documents.

Now he put himself in a position where it will forever be impossible to veryify his claim.

''Earlier in an exclusive interview with the BBC, Wright had promised to give "extraordinary proof to an extraordinary claim."[51] He has yet to provide any verifiable evidence of his authorship of the original Satoshi whitepaper or collaboration with known early developers and refuses, or is unable, to provide the one piece of evidence which would prove his claim, the original Satoshi Nakamoto GPG private key.[52][53] On Thursday, 5 May 2016, shortly before closing his blog, Wright sent around an email link to a news story site saying "Craig Wright faces criminal charges and serious jail time in UK". Wright stated that "I am the source of terrorist funds as bitcoin creator or I am a fraud to the world. At least a fraud is able to see his family. There is nothing I can do."[54]''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright

I can see what he's doing. It is impossible for me to play this game. As I said before, in game theory it's in my own best interest to ignore this man. I don't have a whole lot to lose, I'm no giga-whale. Do I think someone would go this far? Yes. I do. He's been at it for a long time. He's got an utterly corrupt character. I don't care. If he is part of the Nakamoto team. Then fuck it, have fun with it. I don't want anything to do with it.

[Anonymous No.13046676]

>>13046621
And the constant shilling and the extreme narcissism is basically opposite of Satoshi's personality. If he was satoshi and just afraid to be put in jail why would he keep using satoshi's name to shill his useless coin. Why are we even entertaining the baseless claims of this clown?

[Anonymous No.13046699]

>>13046451
BCH is part of Bitcoins history.

[Anonymous No.13046715]

>>13046676
I think a proper point is that Satoshi was a team. If it was a team. Then Satoshi doesn't really have a personality besides what the group agreed are appropriate answers. Kleiman or someone else could very well have corrected CSW in his behaviour.

But yes I agree with the latter of what you say.
>faces serious jail time in UK
Ok he's a billionaire? He can litterly buy a passport in one of the dozens of financial and legal safe-havens. Now I understand that he doesn't necessarily want that. So I refer again to my point that it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to play this game and I might aswell just ignore it. If he does bring down Bitcoin, ok fuck it, I have other things to do. My financial situation doesn't depend on it.

[Anonymous No.13046745]

>13046071

do you have any more info on those link buying whales?

[Anonymous No.13046755]

>>13046071

do you have any more info on those link buying whales?

[Anonymous No.13046909]

I dont think he is satoshi although there are signs that point towards it. Wikileaks BTFO him was great considering wikileaks have never had to retract a statement.
But it really does not matter if he is Satoshi. Satoshi was an early cypherpunk who made bitcoin as an anonymous payment system. Not even satoshi realized what he created when he did. The technology that satoshi introduced will change the world and change the way we communicate with people, but Bitcoin SV will exists as a niche network for a niche group of cypherpunks, like satoshi would have intended.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13046918]

>>13046421
>Yes, or he actually is Satoshi, hates us all and acts like this to fuck us all over.
or i'm god and i find it funny to do this to you.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13046933]

>>13046699
that's not how forks were don at all

[Anonymous No.13046963]

>>13046621
I spent countless hours trying to figure out what to think about this man. For me, there is a very high chance that CSW developed Bitcoin together with Dave (who did most of the coding part). However, latest in September we will learn a lot about the whole story of Satoshi Nakamoto when the trial starts. I fully respect your position in not being involved in the trade. But for me it‘s a extremly attractive non linear payoff. If he really is Satoshi (or part of it) than the upside is gigantic.

[Anonymous No.13046983]

>>13045420

I'm guessing that someone went back and hacked google servers to change the date. Either that or creg lied. I'm not sure what to believe

*HONK*

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13046990]

>>13046963
it doesn't make sense to prove himself to be satoshi in a court of law and open up all sorts of liability instead of signing and proving himself to the public (which he desperately tried even forging evidence) while keeping the plausible deniability card close to his chest in case of litigation.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047001]

>>13046983
yeah anon i'm not sure either i mean he never lied before right? it's not like his own mother doxxed him as a huge fucking liar right?

[Anonymous No.13047039]

>>13046963
what do you think will happen to BTC if he's unequivocally proven to be Satoshi? Crash?

[Anonymous No.13047064]

Another thing, you can't just file patents on anything and everything? You have to have some prove of being the inventor/owner?

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047069]

>>13047039
you mean he signs with the genesis key? yeah that would cause a little crash alright. but there is no way he wouldn't have done it if he could so we are safe.

[Anonymous No.13047090]

>>13047039
It is going to be one hell of a ride. I would imagine that core
will most likely talk him as much down as they can (e.g. times changed, Satoshi is not relevant anymore, Satoshi is a sociopath and doesnt know whats best etc.) Nevertheless, I see a big sell of in BTC and a huge pump in BSV as very likely.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047093]

>>13047064
no you don't what you have to do is describe it and pay the fee. they will check if there is a patent filed that has priority over it. if not it's live. the trick is hen you try to use it and they look more closely. you could have fooled clerks in the patent office but in court experts will testify if the technology described is actually common knowledge or already published before and widely used. and there goes your case...

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047101]

>>13047090
nah we will just say he killed the real satoshi and stole his keys.

[Anonymous No.13047115]

>>13047069
CSW turns out to be SN who completely hates what core did to Bitcoin. Satoshi literally said BTC is a shitcoin.

>little crash

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047130]

>>13047115
it won't be too serious i think. people can rationalize a hell of a lot they would be more worried about satoshis trove than any loyalty issues. but it's only 5% of the total supply tops. shrinking every day.

[Anonymous No.13047146]

>>13047093
How about you tell us which of the hundred or so patents held by nChain that is currently accessible is fraudulent and why?
https://patents.google.com/?assignee=nChain&oq=nChain
If CSW is a scammer, why bother with so many patents? If the goal is just to fool people who don't look deeply, why not just publish a dozen or so and call it a day? Seems like a lot of effort just to scam some shekels.

[Anonymous No.13047168]

>>13047101
If this happens I look forward to the ancient aliens-style youtube videos of how he did it.
>In b4 CSW hacked and brought down that Malaysia Airlines flight that Satoshi was supposedly on

[Anonymous No.13047193]

>>13047130
>Its only 5% of the total bitcoin supply

How fucking deluded can you be? He can instantly crash the whole market down and you wouldnt even know what hit you. 1 god damn million BTC.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047284]

>>13047146
if you look closely there is a lot of repetition there is 3 patents that could matter overall. it's not that the are fraudulent as they describe shit publicly known or already published before. thus they are worthless.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047314]

>>13047193
1) 1 million coins are purely speculation satoshi may never had that much.
2) btc has a daily trade volume over 2 million coins.
3) just coinbases orderbook could soak it up without going to zero not that it's possible to cash that sum out at once in once place.

now fear... fear could crash the entire shitshow back to 10 cents for a short while. much more dangerous than 1 million btc.

[Anonymous No.13047376]

>>13047314
>trade volume
Step 1.
Inhale.
Step 2.
Exhale.

These are the steps to breathing

[Anonymous No.13047414]

>>13047284
>>13047314

So what if he is Satoshi and BTC goes to zero? Will you kill yourself? Or be extremely depressed?

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047420]

>>13047376
it's all very hypothetical of course because creg has no access to satoshis coins. with the emotional roller-coaster he been through and the amount of shit he got knowing his temperament he would have pulled the trigger years ago.

we can safely conclude after all these years that creg stephanie blight got nothing to do with satoshi or his crew. it's just that one of these days those coins can start moving anyhow.

[Anonymous No.13047422]

>>13047284
>if you look closely there is a lot of repetition
Which is very common in patents. That doesn't mean anything.
Can you show what exactly you think is unpatentable or what you think has already been published before? Can you give an example of prior art that would invalidate a given patent's claims?
Just cite one patent and one piece of prior art that discredits one of the primary claims of the patent.

[Anonymous No.13047423]

>>13043875
He lost all credibility when he revealed himself as a homosexual.

[Anonymous No.13047433]

>>13047420

You sound desperate to make people believe you.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047442]

if you wake up and realize you are naked in some goo plugged in as a batter for fucking toasters will you kill yourself? or be extremely depressed?

[Anonymous No.13047446]

>>13047422

He knows nothing about patents, don't even bother

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047454]

>>13047422
>That doesn't mean anything.
it means there is nowhere near a hundred patents. i kept bumping into the same ones again and again then gave up. there is like half a dozen tops. 2 of which may be important as far as link goes.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047461]

>>13047433
i really just try to warn the poor fucks you asshole creg cultists try to prey on

[Anonymous No.13047476]

>>13047446
I'm sensing that, too. I'm not a patent attorney, but I work with patents quite a lot in a professional capacity, including bogus patents, and the nChain stuff looks relatively clean to me upon first pass inspection. I would love to see a proper refutation of the validity of one of the patents and be proven wrong though.
>>13047454
Dude, it is extremely common for a company like DuPont to have a dozen patents that share around 70% of their content covering slightly different chemical syntheses. Similarity of the body text means jack shit.
Just one pair of citations per >>13047422 or GTFO

[Anonymous No.13047482]

>>13043875
>>13043916
>>13043922
Take your antabuse, Craig.

[Anonymous No.13047490]

>>13045443
Stop this.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047502]

>>13047422
>Just cite one patent and one piece of prior art that discredits one of the primary claims of the patent.
how about this one https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2017145006A1/en
>These include but are not limited to:
>Storing metadata
>Implementing digital tokens
>Establishing contracts that are signed with digital signatures.

basically what eth does since 2013 now this patent wouldn't apply to eth for a variety of reasons, but it tries to patent some base mechanisms in prior public use.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047516]

>>13047476
>nChain stuff looks relatively clean to me upon first pass inspection
that's not the problem, the problem is it all has been published from 1996-2013 prior. there is nothing new in them except for the weird idea that bitcoin can be the tape in an external turing machine. as opposed to a turing complete script everyone else uses for this.

[Anonymous No.13047530]

>>13047502
I hate to admit it but he's right.

[Anonymous No.13047539]

>>13047461

>i really just try to warn the poor fucks you asshole creg cultists try to prey on

How kind and altruistic of you, you must be the messiah of /biz/

[Anonymous No.13047542]

>>13047516
>>13047530

Samefag

[Anonymous No.13047555]

>>13047461
again why do u pretend that your doing us a favor when all u do is make fun of us? are u some kind of white knight?

[Anonymous No.13047560]

>>13047542
Nope and the fact you don't like opposing views confirms this is becoming cultish.

[Anonymous No.13047593]

>>13047560

What opposing views?

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047727]

>>13047476
you picked one hell of a time to demand me to get into specifics i was here all day but i'm getting ready for bed now.

tomorrow however i will link this thread and take the fuck apart any patent you post here that you think is relevant to any other crypto except sv and you think it will uphold in court. every id gets to pick one and i will shred them showing you how they either use prior known and or implemented technology and or don't apply to any other crypto anyhow because too specific to cregs brainchild the ""turing complete"" bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.13047761]

[Anonymous No.13047764]

I'm waiting for him to reveal the problem he discovered in Segwit.

[Anonymous No.13047777]

>>13047727
Sure, you got it. I'm gonna take a break now too, but I think this is actually a productive discussion to have. See you tomorrow, niggerfaggot.

[Anonymous No.13047789]

>>13043875

Doesn't he claim to have like 3 PhDs and 5 master's or some stupid shit lol? The dude's clearly a conman.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13047815]

>>13047764
peter rizun did an excellent job explaining
watch his video!
creg just likes to use big words he doesnt understand

[Anonymous No.13047825]

>>13047727

Why did you avoid these posts?

>>13047539
>>13047555

I don't care about the patents, just address that first.

What makes you think we're supposed to believe that you're doing this out of the kindness of your heart?

[Anonymous No.13047850]

>>13045443

If anyone actually want to educate themselves as to why this is just pure bullshit feel free to read the following:

https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Theory-Computation-Michael-Sipser/dp/113318779X/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1OGO0X5U1VMCL&keywords=sipser+theory+of+computation&qid=1552867371&s=gateway&sprefix=sipser%2Caps%2C149&sr=8-2

pdf:

https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Book/Introduction%20to%20the%20theory%20of%20computation_third%20edition%20-%20Michael%20Sipser.pdf

> *HONK*
> what a clow
> sue me creg

[Anonymous No.13047857]

>>13047850

Doesn't matter, his post was interesting and yours is a link to a PDF.

[Anonymous No.13047862]

>>13043875
Why you guys associate him with poos?

[memeatlas.com No.13047865]

>>13045443

And just for fun:

http://www.tony5m17h.net/surreal.html#manyworlds

> actual smart people and not conmen who sling just enough coherent scientific terms to pass the smell test for popsci laypeople

[memeatlas.com No.13047879]

>>13047857

Its a link to a core computer science text that covers state and turning machines as well as computability theory. But ok dood.

[Anonymous No.13048035]

>>13047761
Link to this? I don't trust wikileaks twitter anyways it is compromised but this is just funny

[Anonymous No.13048173]

>>13043875
I research small world network

[Anonymous No.13048188]

>>13043932
Congrats anon unironically you will make it

[Anonymous No.13048205]

>>13047865
I really can't stop thinking of the vishnu video every time I read someone with such a "ok guys, here's the crypto brown pill" attitude. It must be even the same person that wrote the original article that originated the parody.

[Anonymous No.13048210]

>>13044135
Implying bsv is only csw kek, what about unwriter and others calvin?

[Anonymous No.13048218]

>>13044201
Alibaba, google, amazon, facebook, twitter ovh

What makes you think only google?

[Anonymous No.13048229]

>>13044239
Whoever found the block first profits

[Anonymous No.13048244]

>>13043875
An honorary pajeet. He will have a shitting street named after him in Mumbai once BSV makes India a world superpower.

[Anonymous No.13048328]

>>13045191
Where's desantis?

[Anonymous No.13048352]

>>13045337
>>patents aint worth shit
>>ibm,alibaba, mastercard patent aint worth shit

BSV is for big boys

[Anonymous No.13048356]

>>13043932
STIFF

[Anonymous No.13048378]

>>13045443
I dont understand quantum but elon does someone need to tell him this

[Anonymous No.13048408]

>>13045878
Dont buy bsv

[Anonymous No.13048432]

>>13046054
>>never heard of reorg

[Anonymous No.13048477]

>>13043875
Not buying SV. Suicide bags? You guys are kiss asses. Hal Finney is the main guy.

[Anonymous No.13048676]

Pay your dues.

[Anonymous No.13049204]

>>13045443
>>13045808
very based indeed
satoshi is like god or something and all universes are his playgrounds, some are blockchains like ours, others are omnidirectional cyclic graphs, nothing like ours
others operate on not vacuum, time, space, but something else is the concept and design, quite intriguing

[Anonymous No.13049238]

>>13048477

Not a chance.

[Anonymous No.13049565]

>>13043875
I know what he stands for. He can suck my dick.

[Anonymous No.13049885]

>>13043975
so what? don't be a faggot.

[Anonymous No.13049979]

>>13043975

>Not buying Apple stock in the 90s because Steve Jobs is a dick

[Anonymous No.13050142]

>>13049979
>not buying bear stern's stock in 08 because it's toxic to capitalism.

[Anonymous No.13050256]

>>13043875
Because he has been claiming to be the creator of Bitcoin and so far he has provided 0 proof to back those claims. So yeah trust me dude I am Satoshi.

[Anonymous No.13050280]

Vitalik called him a fraud and thats enough research for me.

[Anonymous No.13050517]

>>13047420
[01G] forever known as an absolute brainlet.
>"1 million could easily be absorbed by trade volume.... " Kek

[Anonymous No.13050648]

>>13050280
>an austistic ex-soviet socialist booger picker cripplecoin dev makes decisions for me

[Anonymous No.13050692]

>>13050280
imagine trusting this gif related

[Anonymous No.13050820]

>>13046715
>Kleiman

REMINDER:

>You literally wouldn't know who Kleiman was if it wasn't for the fraud CRAIG WRIGHT.
>Craig didnt mention Kleiman in relation to his satoshi scam until *after* Dave died.
>Dave Kleiman was never in contention for being Satoshi Nakamoto before Craig started calling him Satoshi.

and to cap it all off -

>Craig Wright faked Dave Kleiman's signature on contracts using a freeware font.

FUCK FAKETOSHI

[Anonymous No.13050821]

>>13043875
Researched ~1h
SV does not interest me - neutral.
He does sound like a drunk manbaby

[Anonymous No.13050835]

>>13043875
I've read all his blog posts, many of his papers and patent filings, and the book that was written about him (The Satoshi Affair).
His blog posts are all easily disprovable pseudoscience, he replaces science with aggressive talk to lure in brainlets, he dodges difficult questions (for example how to prevent miner bribing to secure 0conf).
His papers are plagiarised and he probably has a group of pajeets copy+pasting other people's work to pump his patent filing numbers.
He's been proven to lie at least a couple dozen times.
He used to claim that he spent his Satoshi coins on electricity, now he pretends he still has them. He never had them btw.
He's a fraud, and even 100% accurate Wikileaks has called him out on it

https://chainbulletin.com/wikileaks-doubles-down-on-craig-wright-accusations-calls-him-the-bernie-madoff-of-bitcoin/

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13050849]

>>13047825
>Why did you avoid these posts?
had to go to sleep mein neger, but now that i read them i got nothing to say really.

[Anonymous [O1G] No.13050854]

>>13050517
it can since you can't possibly dump it all at once.

[Anonymous No.13050907]

>>13050692
he is an absolute autist thats why you should trust him
>>13050648
I dare you to show me your blockfolio without eth in it.

[Anonymous No.13050916]

>>13050907
He has no grasp on the real world

[Anonymous No.13050928]

>>13050854
>Anonymous [O1G]
>30 posts by this ID

Why is it like this in every single thread about craig/bitcoin? Something doesn't add up

[Anonymous No.13050939]

I'm just sick of all the Creg shillers trying to offload their bags. What was the price on listing? $200, what is it now? Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what they're doing.