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In the debate of whether or not AI will lead to massive job losses, people seem too focused on past events. Optimists point to the previous industrial revolutions as examples of major economic changes that in the end turned out okay for job sustainability.

But I rarely see people point to one blatant fact: Unlike previous technological advancements, AI isn't industry disruption. It's competency disruption.

Most jobs today consist of repetitive, specific tasks that require average human competence. A.I is only really good at performing specific tasks.

When AI optimists are faced with this proposition, they parry with the notion that in time, we will create new jobs to replace those lost to A.I. But that notion ignores one major problem that prevents anyone from creating such jobs: The IQ gap.

Love it or hate it, IQ is one of the most reliable tests we have on competency. A.I threatens to take not just the existing jobs for people with average IQs, but AI can take every possible job an average person will be able to perform.

The worrying part is that IQ is nigh impossible increase in a major way, and research points to it having a strong connection to genetics. What this means is that no matter how great the education system, most people aren't able to become intelligent enough to get a job in the upcoming future.

TL;DR AI will take the jobs that most people are competent enough to do, leaving only the most intelligent in society to take jobs. The IQ gap will be what separates the working from the non-working, the rich from the poor, the free from the enslaved.

>> No.13030587

>>13030576

AI is a meme. Always has been, always will be.

>> No.13030661

>>13030587
I'm not referencing the meme here, I'm speaking for the highly specific tasks for which computer-driven machines will be vastly superior to human labor.

>> No.13030715

>>13030576
>I'm a lazy fuck and will blame my lack of success on the A.I boogie man.

Don't get me wrong, A.I will take certain low paying jobs such as some manufacturing positions, cashiers, drivers (though self-driving vehicles are far from a point where they can have mass adoption). But a lot of jobs just can't practically be. Doctors, nurses, construction, cops, teachers, hell even waiters and waitresses would still have jobs. Anyone who says AI will take over most jobs lives in a bubble and hasn't actually worked the jobs they think will be phased out.

>> No.13030730

>>13030576
T. Knows nothing about stats or ML but makes predictions on them anyway

>> No.13030747

My friend who works at google and has access to their proprietary machine learning papers told me to be worried. He unironically supports yang because he knows that he is right. There will be an uprising when you take away people’s jobs like that

>> No.13030775

>>13030576
There is no such thing as "AI" right now. It's all "automation", using skip logic. There are no robots coming for jobs that aren't repetitive and can be done by 40 IQ mouthbreathers.

ANY arguments past that are pure mental masturbation and bullshit. If you claim any form of "AI" exists, you're a fucking spastic.

The cutting edge, really-working-in-that-field researchers don't even have the barest inkling of a theoretical roadmap to "AI", and you mouthbreathing retards are claiming it's coming for your jobs? Bitches, please. Do some fucking reading.

We're so far off from anything even resembling "AI" your great grandkids...okay, other people's great grandkids have no worries about getting a job, or having theirs stolen by AI.

>> No.13030814

>>13030775
>misusing definitions so badly
You are talking about AGI - Artificial General Intelligence. AI exists and is doing well today.
Now scram, adults are discussing stuff.

>> No.13030824

>>13030576
until they can make bipedal droids with long lasting batteries its nothing but a pipe dream and no im not talking about them boston dynamic monstrosities. So im quite happy welding with my 98 iq

>> No.13030983

>>13030814
There is no "intelligence", you're the one nitpicking.

Oh, wait, this is /biz, I'm arguing with fuckwits and poos in the first place.

LOL. My bad.

>> No.13031009

>>13030576
You do realize that you can't have a functioning economy when the vast majority are unemployed, right? When the majority is technologically unemployed, we'll probably need to embrace socialism.

>> No.13031030

>>13030824
>with long lasting batteries
100m extension cord, truck with battery pack in the back that self-drives to worksite.

>>13031009
Depends on your definition of functioning. Kill off everyone outside the 120-IQ gated communities and things will run just fine on the inside.

Hell, better than fine.

>> No.13031044

>>13030576
IQ is a meme. Always has been, always will be.

>> No.13031048

>>13031009

You can with UBI and high taxes on the ultra wealthy.

>> No.13031057

>>13030775
you are being arrogant

>> No.13031060

>>13030747
A Jobbe is a piece of work.

A Job is a path of persecution in faith.

>> No.13031066

>>13031048
UBI is a placeholder until the need for an economy goes away. a way of slowly getting the masses use to not having to work for a living

>> No.13031082

>>13031044
Shut up, Taleb.

>> No.13031180

I imagine the future will look something like ergo proxy.

>> No.13031368

>>13030824
Is most welding done on site or in shops? I can imagine a program in 10 years thats like CAD but for welding. It could affect shop welding the same way it's affected car factories.