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[Anonymous No.13028423]

Hey guys, it's time for a scary thermometer thread.

Did you know that since oracles aren't real, using decentralized repetitional node voting offers no benefits over using an audited API validation server?

I'd give you all the benefits and automation of an "oracle solution" (even though it's not even close to actually being an oracle solution) without any of the added cost, all using currently available software and tech.

[Anonymous No.13028440]

agreed, link sucks

[Anonymous No.13028452]

>>13028423
The oracle problem isn't real, it doesn't exist.

The chainlink bagholding problem on the other hand is absolutely out of control.

[Anonymous No.13028453]

Agreed. What's even funnier is that've convinced people that "middleware" is a good thing.

Pic related is some "middleware".

[Anonymous No.13028514]

But it's shiny.
>And imagine the smell...

[Anonymous No.13028566]

The smell of what, desperation?

[Anonymous No.13028578]

>>13028423
Oracles are meant to be decentralized by definition, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.13028591]

>>13028578
Oracles don't exist. The above diagram is just node voting. Not even close to the same thing since node voting only produces popular data.

[Anonymous No.13028603]

>>13028453
also the lightning network. corecucks and and linklets share the same bed.

[Anonymous No.13028629]

>>13028591
Just like Bitcoin node voting only produces ‘popular’ responses to the transaction history?

Decentralization BTFO

[Anonymous No.13028635]

>>13028423
you dont have to go this deep to realize its a fucking scam you moron

[Anonymous No.13028640]

>>13028629
Transaction history is defined to be the popular response. Can't define real world data.

[Anonymous No.13028641]

>>13028629
Bitcoin starts with "pure", factual data. That's the difference. There's no grey area for "X wallet sent Y transaction".

[Anonymous No.13028645]

>>13028635
Sometimes you just have to longdick things, anon.

[Anonymous No.13028673]

people finally starting to see the flawed architecture in link

Look into amoveo's oracle design

[Anonymous No.13028687]

>b-but muh middleware vaporware token
>s-stealth mode
>mcdonald's meme?
>sergey fat!

It's interesting to go back a few years ago on Warosu and notice all the PandaCoin threads where it's blatantly obvious that many 4channers were tricked into a pump & dump scam, then fast forward and all those threads have been replaced by Chainlink.

Someone pulling the strings on this board has made a lot of money off of scams.

[Anonymous No.13028699]

>>13028641
Ok so it’s not the voting on the data that you take issue with, because Bitcoin nodes essentially “vote” on which transactions are valid and should be included in The block.

So if the voting mechanism isn’t the problem, and it’s actually the source of the data that you take issue with, by that logic your proposed solution is just as flawed as the chainlink solution.

[Anonymous No.13028715]

>>13028673
But anon, oracles don't exist.

>>13028699
I don't use coins vunerable to 51% attacks. I'm just saying that BTC works a little better because the data they start with is actually valid.

The voting mechanism definitely is the problem when there's no way you can guarantee the validity of the data you're voting on. AKA the oracle problem that link fails to solve.

[Anonymous No.13028736]

>>13028591
>Oracles don't exist. The above diagram is just node voting
That's how Bitcoin reaches consensus too.
Also, that's exactly what oracles do: reach off-chain consensus for things that are not at home on-chain.

God you're dumb.

[Anonymous No.13028739]

>>13028423
This is why Giant has a lot of promise.

[Anonymous No.13028751]

>>13028641
>There's no grey area for "X wallet sent Y transaction".
Except when the majority of nodes say otherwise, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

Also, congratulations on figuring out what makes blockchain "deterministic".
Now the next step is to figure out how to get "non-deterministic" data onto the "deterministic" system that is blockchain. (protip: the answer is oracles)

[Anonymous No.13028755]

>>13028736
Bitcoin starts with valid data because you know that a human or a system put a transaction on the blockchain for an amount. There's no question that someone or something put it on there for whatever reason.

Link tries to promise that somehow registering an API output data to blockchain makes the data inherently more valid or secure or true. It doesn't. There's no benefit to using link over just running a secure, audited server that all parties agree on.

[Anonymous No.13028761]

>>13028755
See >>13028751

[Anonymous No.13028762]

>>13028751
Link is also vulnerable to 51% attacks. We're talking about how even in idealized conditions, link doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.13028775]

>>13028762
>Link is also vulnerable to 51% attacks
There are many possible systems that would prevent that, but sure.

>We're talking about how even in idealized conditions, link doesn't work.
So because 51% attacks exist, Link doesn't work?
You are fudding crypto in general just to take a swipe at Link.
Congrats on being a retard.

[Anonymous No.13028782]

PRICE DOWN

FUD UP

[Anonymous No.13028783]

>>13028751
Also, there's no such thing as oracles. Deterministic data is great, as long as you can ensure that the data you start out with is real. Link can't ensure that the dat you start out with is real.

e.g. How do you propose we get temperature data on blockchain reliably?

e.g. How do you propose we get art critic data on blockchain reliably?

[Anonymous No.13028790]

>>13028783
>there's no such thing as oracles
Sure there is.

>Link can't ensure that the dat you start out with is real.
Now you're fudding the concept of "data source" just to take a swipe at Link.
You're getting more and more retarded by the minute.

[Anonymous No.13028797]

>>13028790
>Sure there is.
Nah, what if someone lies?

[Anonymous No.13028801]

>>13028797
Data sources can lie, yes.

Again, you're fudding the concept of "data source" just to take a swipe at Link.

[Anonymous No.13028812]

>>13028801
Just helping to point out that the oracle problem is not solvable. Nobody can trustlessly put real world data on blockchain.

Data source is the entire point of link, lol.

[Anonymous No.13028822]

>>13028812
>Just helping to point out that the oracle problem is not solvable.
Protip: the oracle problem has nothing to do with whether or not the data source is reliable.

>Data source is the entire point of link, lol.
Oh really?
I didn't know Link was a decentralized data source network.
I was told it was a decentralized oracle network.

[Anonymous No.13028829]

>>13028775
Because 51% attacks exist, and that reputation based node voting only produces popular results, link provides a more expensive solution with no additional benefits to using an audited parser or multiple parsers.

[Anonymous No.13028837]

>>13028829
>only produces popular results
Just like Bitcoin.

Stop fudding the entire concept of crypto just to take a swipe at Link, it's not a good look.

[Anonymous No.13028840]

>>13028822
>nothing to do
Sure it does, it's people voting on the validity of API feeds that they can't validate. That's even worse, lol.

>decentralized oracle
There's no such thing as oracles, link is only a reputation based node voting network.

[Anonymous No.13028849]

>>13028840
>it's people voting on the validity of API feeds
No it's not.
Fucking lmao you brainlet.

>node voting network
Like Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.13028852]

>>13028837
Popular results on validated data, sure. That's why I don't hold PoW coins.

>>13028837
But anon, there's crypto that doesn't rely on false promises and flawed concepts.

[Anonymous No.13028866]

>>13028852
>That's why I don't hold PoW coins.
Right.
You're still a retard for fudding PoW just to get to Link.

>there's crypto that doesn't rely on false promises and flawed concepts.
Let me guess, Sky?
Get your head checked you lunatic.

[Anonymous No.13028869]

>>13028829
What if I told you that a chainlink node IS an audited parser?

[Anonymous No.13028875]

>>13028849
>no
Yes it is. You're welcome to outline an example of what you think it is if you'd like.

>btc
We've already talked about BTC using validated data and link cannot validate the data in its api feeds.

[Anonymous No.13028880]

>>13028869
Why do I need to rent someone else's computer to do that and pay them much more than I normally would on my own? There's no benefit.

[Anonymous No.13028882]

>>13028875
>Yes it is.
No, it's really really REALLY not.

This is absolutely hilarious.

> BTC using validated data and link cannot validate the data in its api feeds
So according to you, the world should abandon api feeds.
Ok anon, that's nice.

[Anonymous No.13028891]

>>13028866
No, I'm stating factually: oracles do not exist; chainlink's solution to the oracle problem is not a real solution, by definition.

Sky is nice, but they haven't released consensus yet.

[Anonymous No.13028904]

>>13028891
You only say that because you have no clue what oracles do.
You think they validate the data source itself. Which is just cute and hilarious.

[Anonymous No.13028908]

>>13028880
Decentralization, which I know, I know, you don’t believe in unless it’s skyshitcoin, you absolute madman

[Anonymous No.13028925]

>>13028882
>hilarious
lol tru

>abandon api feeds
Oh no, I like API feeds. They're useful. It's just that if I pull car price data from good sources like Kelly Blue Book and AutoTrader, why on earth would I need it through Chainlink?
I can just pay a code monkey to pass the values they provide over their APIs to a smart contract that will auto execute.
Much cheaper, much more trustworthy.

[Anonymous No.13028937]

>>13028925
>Oh no, I like API feeds.
Then why do you keep pointing out that API data can't be validated?

[Anonymous No.13028942]

>>13028904
>no clue what oracles do
No, I know what link proposes to do to solve the theory of the "oracle problem". But because of the broader concept that oracles don't exist, this series of pseudo-checks is really just >>13028453 's pic related.

[Anonymous No.13028952]

>>13028880
is it comparable to ssl/tls, ssh certificates?

[Anonymous No.13028956]

>>13028942
>I know what link proposes to do
You clearly don't, since you said Link validates the data source.

It's ok anon, just slink away and learn. Nobody knows who you are.

[Anonymous No.13028971]

>>13028937
Because you can't trustlessly put real world data on blockchain. Oracles can lie, pic related.

[Anonymous No.13028978]

>>13028952
No, all of that can be done on a local system.

[Anonymous No.13028992]

>>13028956
Nah, I said that by design, BTC only asks for inputs they can validate, like entering an amount to send and an address to send to.

Not if an insurance provider made sure to pay out because a car was considered to be totaled or not. Link can't reliably validate information like that.

[Anonymous No.13028996]

>>13028925
>why on earth would I need it through Chainlink?
to be sure no one fucked with the data?

[Anonymous No.13028998]

>>13028971
>Because you can't trustlessly put real world data on blockchain
Says the faggot who thinks Chainlink validates data sources.

>Oracles can lie, pic related.
So can Bitcoin nodes.

[Anonymous No.13029002]

>>13028908
Why do I need link nodes for that? I can decentralize by just going to Linode and firing up three virtual servers in three different datacenters across three different continents.

[Anonymous No.13029006]

>>13028992
>BTC only asks for inputs they can validate
Right.
And APIs and data sources in general put out data that often cannot be validated (because said data is non-deterministic).

So you're fudding "data sources" just to take a swipe at Link.
You dummie. So cute.

[Anonymous No.13029010]

Apparently all the brainlets on this board don't even understand what an API is and most definitely have never worked with one. Make some simple shitty node/express CRUD API with some dumb fucking framework front end and understand what the fuck you are even on about. You lot would do better if you took the time to learn basic code so you can tell that when Steve is changing var names on the pivotal tracker it means fuck all.

[Anonymous No.13029012]

>>13028996
I can do that with an audited server though. Much, much cheaper. All the data is coming from the API anyway so why not get it straight from the source?

[Anonymous No.13029024]

>>13028998
Nah, link can't validate data sources, it can only pretend that it's voting on the "right" data sources.

Bitcoin nodes can lie in less than ideal conditions. Link nodes can lie in the best of conditions.

[Anonymous No.13029033]

>>13029024
>Nah, link can't validate data sources
But you thought that was what Link's purpose was.

You are absolutely clueless.

[Anonymous No.13029039]

>>13029006
So why would I want to have someone vote on non-deterministic data? It's pointless.

Nah, data sources are useful. It's just that link doesn't add any value as a middleman. There's no business model.

[Anonymous No.13029045]

>>13029010
Honestly, I can recreate the same functionality that link provides with a few Zapier accounts.

[Sage No.13029048]

>>13029002
Ok kiddo here’s a crash course on decentralization. The premise is you achieve high security guarantees if you have an open network that anyone can participate in to help secure that network, generally by offering incentives to do so. You don’t want to be the one spinning up three linodes and offering this contract to your client or partner or public because while you might trust yourself, no one else necessarily wants to trust you. Especially if leveraging blockchain decentralization, those counterparties want to guarantee that there isn’t a single point of failure or a single trusted party.

You argue like a schizoid btw. Figure out the thesis of your fud and stick to it. 2/10 and I’m being very generous

[Anonymous No.13029047]

>>13029039
>So why would I want to have someone vote on non-deterministic data?
You're asking me to spoonfeed you what an oracle is and does.
Google it.

[Anonymous No.13029052]

>>13029033
Oh, no, that's what link promises to do, but fails to do. You misunderstood me.

[Anonymous No.13029067]

>>13029047
An oracle doesn't do anything because they don't exist.

Link votes on api feeds and pretends its an oracle. Are you sure I'm not spoonfeeding you?

[Anonymous No.13029072]

>>13029052
>that's what link promises to do
lmao

NO

IT

DOESN'T

[Anonymous No.13029079]

>>13029067
>An oracle doesn't do anything because they don't exist.
You only say that because you have no clue what an oracle is and does.

Protip: oracles DO NOT validate the legitimacy of the data source.

[Anonymous No.13029083]

>>13029048
too bad using that network is 10x more expensive

[Anonymous No.13029105]

>>13029048
You can cut out incentives if you just have a two party system. Like two submarine keys needed to fire a surface to air missile or something.

Each party could fire up their linode server, which connects to the same agreed upon API feeds and parses and determines payment as needed, each party's server would have to agree on the results.

This accomplishes the exact same level of trustlessness and the exact same level of security without wasting money on incentivized nodes.

Eh, it's enough to keep this thread rolling. That's not an argument, by the way.

[Anonymous No.13029115]

>>13029072
Sure it does, they're a solution to the oracle problem, or so they claim. But we all know oracles don't exist.

[Anonymous No.13029119]

>>13029115
>Sure it does
NO


IT
DOESN'T

[Anonymous No.13029148]

>>13029079
An oracle is an outside source of data, like a thermometer.

A solution to the oracle problem is just a way to try to determine if something is trusted or not.

Link delivers on neither of these fronts because you can't trustlessly place real world data on the blockchain to execute smart contracts. Since that's impossible to do reliably, there's no benefit to using link's tech over a privately owned decentralized parsing solution.

[Anonymous No.13029156]

>>13029148
>An oracle is an outside source of data, like a thermometer.
No, it isn't.

L M A O
M
A
O

[Anonymous No.13029162]

>>13029119
You gettin mad boi, step outside for a moment and breathe. Here's a nice picture of the moon.

[Sage No.13029167]

>>13029105
Which is exactly why chainlink let’s contract creators specify the level of decentralization they require. In your example, you’re talking more about a multisig transaction where both parties need to agree to launch. Chainlink offers the same customization for number of nodes, as well as usage of TEE, but for a use case where neither party can issue the transaction (the agreement is based off of terms outside of either party’s control eg. market price data). Depending on the contracts appetite for security they could pay for 2 nodes, a single node running SGX, or 50 nodes. You pay for the level of security you require

[Anonymous No.13029173]

>>13029162
I'm laughing my ass of though.
God you're dense.

Please tell us what godforsaken coin you invested in.

[Sage No.13029188]

>>13029173
I think he’s a skycoin drone. He’s parroting something a dev said recently about how oracles aren’t real, and he was here yesterday subtly shilling skycoin while fudding oracles

[Anonymous No.13029229]

>>13028736
>>13028761
>>13028775
>>13028790
>>13028801
>>13028822
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>>13028751
>>13028882
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>>13029173
absolutely based marine btfo nolinkers

[Anonymous No.13029254]

>>13029229

the linkie looks like he's about to cry though

[Anonymous No.13029287]

>>13029173
Oh, good, you're happy. I thought you were really upset.

I have some Hedera and Doge and Sky.

[Anonymous No.13029298]

>>13029167
Yeah, so how much is developing a system like that worth, maybe $300k?

You don't need a blockchain to get all the same functionality/security too, which is nice.

[Anonymous No.13029314]

>>13029188
Oh yeah, some link shill stumbled in to a Skycoin dev room and brought up the topic. I found it interesting enough to discuss with all my new link friends on biz.

[Anonymous No.13029370]

>>13029314
>I found it interesting enough to discuss with all my new link friends on biz.
But not interesting enough to actually look up what oracles are.

[Anonymous No.13029451]

>>13029370
Oh, an oracle is an outside data source, like a rain gauge or a music critic.

[Anonymous No.13029585]

>>13029254
Nah, he's okay, just thinking things over.

[Anonymous No.13029591]

>>13028782
What are you talking about though. The price has been moving sideways.

This market is still a bit dumb anyways, maybe five out of the top 50 projects by market cap are any good.

[Anonymous No.13029609]

Got really high the other day and realized that my life is better spent not trying to pretend to know what an oracle or middleware is

Look at this thread, you're all fakers and bullshit artists, just like I was.

I market sold at 50 cents and I've since converted my shares to BSV.

[Anonymous No.13029661]

>>13029609
good for you anon im glad someone sees the light

[Anonymous No.13029700]

>>13029609
Well, I don't approve of BSV, but at least is has a demonstrated function that isn't built on pretending that platonic ideals are real.

[Anonymous No.13029715]

I think it's quite clear you don't know what an oracle is, and certainly not what a decentralised oracle network is.

[Anonymous No.13029720]

>>13029700
Geez man, how many threads?
I argued with you yesterday and I’m sure as hell not going to argue again, but this obsession is getting a tad bit ridiculous

[Anonymous No.13029761]

>>13029609
This. and i dont want to have an association to this clown world shit after today event.

[Anonymous No.13029768]

>>13028423
OP is retarded. His determination to FUD Chainlink spanning multiple days is just a symptom of something bigger.

[Anonymous No.13029852]

>>13029715
Sure I do, it's nodes that vote on data feeds. The nodes with higher reputation are weighted more in their vote.

It lends to producing "popular" common answers, rather than "true" valuable answers.

It's the reason I don't ask the pack of bums on the corner about my coin collection:
>they all vote that they think they watched an episode of Antiques Road Show a while ago and they think my coins are worth a few hundred
Or I can just go to an expert or two or three with my coin collection:
>the expert gets looks at historical documents and looks at market rates for said coins

Link's "oracle" model would give me the popular ARS data feed. Which is not nearly as good as an expert.

[Anonymous No.13029880]

>>13029720
Did you think of an example yet?

>>13029768
Oh man, I wouldn't call this determinism. These threads are easy to reply to while I'm working. You'll probably get a break from scary thermometer scenarios this weekend though.

[Anonymous No.13029962]

>>13029852
Nice straw man. Though chainlink would still be the most secure option for inputting the experts valuation into the smart contract, if for some strange reason somebody wanted to do that.

[Anonymous No.13029992]

>>13029962
Why? Any method that you have him input data would be just as secure as link without the middleman of link.

I could argue even more secure since it's not passing through an outside system.

[Anonymous No.13030039]

How do you decentralize a centralized point of data?
Like the Dow Jones index, they all pull it from the Dow Jones ticker or whatever; it has a software bug that says market hit 0 (some sort of inaccurate flash crash) and all nodes report that and badly programmed smart contracts get executed.

Or a thermometer in Antarctica nobody's going to built a wifi connected thermometer there; they'll all pull it from a centralized point like the Antarctica Research Post.

[Anonymous No.13030064]

>>13029992
It could be arranged so that all the parties involved had to accept the valuation. How you would input that in to a blockchain?

Anyways, that's hardly a sensible example of use case for a smart contract. I agree with Nick Szabo that he probably should've call them something other than smart contract. It's more about automating than validating, I think. You have to think bigger than just actual legal contracts per se fren.

[Anonymous No.13030084]

>>13030039
Well said.

In the other thread they gave a good example of reporting the score of a football game, since you have several sources focused on a single, simple event.

But lol, how much is decentralized football game score reporting worth? I can't imagine bookies spending more than a hundred dollars per validated score.

Spread that across hundreds or thousands of score reporters, lol. "oh, cool, I got paid three cents for reporting the score of the game I was just at, I had to pay $4 to write it to the erc20 token's blockchain".

[Anonymous No.13030115]

>>13030064
You'd get a blockchain and have him write the values to it. Private blockchains aren't complicated.

That'd actually be much more cost effective and easier to manage. A company setting up their own internal smart contract platform that they have much more control over, with all the same security assurances that link is able to provide.

[Anonymous No.13030120]

>>13028423
“45 posts by this ID”
> WOW, what a loser!

[Anonymous No.13030137]

>>13030120
The good news is that I don't own an erc20 token that promises to deliver impossible platonic idealism.

[Anonymous No.13030191]

>>13030115
>Private blockchains
I now realize we are not at all on the same page about the concept of trustlesness.

[Anonymous No.13030268]

>>13030191
Why not? If a party is going to be attempting to automate smart contracts between them, why wouldn't they issue their own dedicated blockchain contract?

It'd cut out the fees associated with link for sure.

[Anonymous No.13030289]

>>13028423
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>>13030268
Thanks anons for caring about my financial wellbeing, and on top of that, doing it for free.
You're my heroes, second only to janitors, obviously.

[Anonymous No.13030312]

>>13030289
You clicked on every post in this thread. That's quite the expression.

I hope I'm rewarded with fewer people making poor investment choices and the market improving as a whole as it sheds the husk of this awful erc20-fueled hangover.

[Anonymous No.13030342]

>>13030312
Yep, I clicked on every post that you patiently wrote for nothing. And this is the only post that I'm going to write for you. Godspeed.

[Anonymous No.13030357]

>>13030342
>patiently
Oh, this is me just kind of rattling off thoughts. I'll probably write a formal post on Medium summarizing the contents of these threads.

[Anonymous No.13030372]

>>13030357

[Anonymous No.13030388]

>>13030372
Nah, it's been over a year and biz hasn't done enough to reject linkspam in the same way other boards reject dumb things. So I'm going to help.

[Anonymous No.13030444]

kek Chainlink is a proven scam, they have no idea or specs that describe how they will actually implement functioning decentralized oracles. 2 years after raising 32 mil.

[Anonymous No.13030446]

>>13030388

[Anonymous No.13030516]

>>13030444
these numbers dont lie

[Anonymous No.13030579]

>>13030446
Christ, what a fucking unfunny show.

[Anonymous No.13030580]

>>13029451
>an oracle is an outside data source
No it’s not you derp.

[Anonymous No.13030598]

>>13030516
>responding to himself
No need to self-reassure yourself. You just know link is the best project in crypto right now but can't admit it due to delusion.

[Anonymous No.13030604]

>>13028423
just leave your trip on uncs, it's more fun that way

[Anonymous No.13030645]

>>13030289
Never go full retard

[Anonymous No.13030855]

I'm not reading any of this
I'm not selling a single token before the year 2030
I'm AM will not stop buying CHAINLINK TOKENS up to 1.00USD

Thas right I will not stop market buying chainlink tokens every time I get the chance
And there is nothing that I can read to convince me otherwise.fuck niggers/black people/shitskins/kikes/jannies/etc.

[Anonymous No.13030875]

>>13030855
Based and ****pilled

[Anonymous No.13030906]

>>13030855
This guy fucks nazi scum.

[Anonymous No.13031617]

>>13030580
What do you think it is?

[Anonymous No.13031626]

>>13030598
Why can't anyone cite a coherent use case for the "best project in crypto"?

[Anonymous No.13031637]

>>13030855
Do whatever you like.

It's not going to make oracles real. Oracles aren't real.

[Anonymous No.13031719]

>>13031626
>>13031637
>t. retard

[Anonymous No.13031944]

>>13031719
Lol, seriously though.

just
cite
one
example
where
link
is
useful

[Anonymous No.13032650]

>>13030604
Nah, I don't know who that is but tripfags are lame.

You'll know its me next time because come on, it's me.

[Anonymous No.13032686]

>>13031944
What's the point of decentralised thermometers? I can buy one at the store

[Anonymous No.13032755]

>>13032686
Well, it'd be a pretty big cost savings if you could trustlessly add temperature data to the blockchain.

Rather than trusting a weather station, which can make mistakes, you'd be trusting a group vote.

But the actual implementation would be incredibly messy.
>can falls asleep on the monitor
>different mounting heights
>tree grows to cover the thermometer in shade
>thermometer loses calibration
>hot/cold sources near the thermometer, like a chimney or industrial vent

Like if someone makes a bet on a new high temperature, linkies think that A. anyone will take all these risks with averaged data, or B. trust weighted voting based on reputation, or C. pay more than a few dollars to execute a bet.

Corporations are even more shrewd. Linkies thinking they're going to get rich when in reality, this software platform is worth maybe $400k minus exorbitant eth fees to operate it.

[Anonymous No.13033404]

>>13030388
You really helped friend.. all day replying.. I’m sure we won’t see another Link thread tomorrow. Rest well loser

[Anonymous No.13033441]

>>13033404
Maybe, maybe not. You guys are getting pretty mad and seem to be trying to improve the defense of your viewpoints, so that's at least productive.