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In the debate of whether or not AI will create massive job losses, people seem too focused on past events. Optimists point to the previous industrial revolutions as examples of major economic changes that in the end turned out okay for job sustainability.

But I rarely see people point to one blatant fact: Unlike previous technological advancements, AI isn't industry disruption. It's competency disruption.

Most jobs today consist of repetitive, specific tasks that require average human competence. A.I is only really good at performing specific tasks.

When AI optimists are faced with this proposition, they parry with the notion that in time, we will create new jobs to replace those lost to A.I. But that notion ignores one major problem that prevents anyone from creating such jobs: The IQ gap.

Love it or hate it, IQ is one of the most reliable tests we have on competency. A.I threatens to take not just the existing jobs for people with average IQs, but AI can take every possible job an average person will be able to perform.

The worrying part is that IQ is nigh impossible increase in a major way, and research points to it having a strong connection to genetics. What this means is that no matter how great the education system, most people aren't able to become intelligent enough to get a job in the upcoming future.

TL;DR AI will take the jobs that most people are competent enough to do, leaving only the most intelligent in society to take jobs. The IQ gap will be what separates the working from the non-working, the rich from the poor, the free from the enslaved.

>> No.12894326

>>12894307
most human are not just worthless, they are malicious
there is a reason why smart people want to move away from humans
I can't wait to see the absolute misery and death that is coming

>> No.12894336

> rich
> working
Pick one

>> No.12894340

and how will you be automating plumber, hvac, electrician etc?

actually the only ones who are fucked are 100-120 who think their accounting degrees will save them

>> No.12894349

>>12894307
High iq != competency without drive, and with enough ambition and drive you can work your way up with lower than satisfactory iq

>> No.12894359

>>12894307
People under 120 IQ will shout out "UBI!"
People over 120 will just keep quiet because they know the only solution is massive culling, why keep worthless masses of flesh around?
>hurr durr they need consumers for their products!
So asset owners will pay taxes, to fund idiots, so the idiots can buy their stuff? Why not just keep the money and cut out the middleman (ie. idiots)?

The only thing the will REALLY happen is that making consumer good for retards will cease to be profitable, so an avenue to riches will be closed, but another one will open
>or matter-of-fact is already open, but only people with >120IQ can see it

>> No.12894365

>>12894336
Capitalism is built on the value of people's labor. When only a few are intelligent enough to work, they will be highly compensated and sought after.

>> No.12894369

>>12894340
cat sized drones
those drones are just RC drones and eyes, what drives them in the overmind
each small drone is effectively a hand

>> No.12894380

>>12894349
This is true for entrepreneurship and lotsa cool stuff. But it's not true for things like creativity, sociability, likeability.

In todays society sure, ambition is an important factor of success. But ambition and hard work won't make you see more complex patterns. It won't make you a world class athlete, and it won't make an uncreative person creative.

Jobs in the future will be for people who can create. Ambition isn't enough here.

>> No.12894381

>>12894365
>Capitalism is built on the value of people's labor
Yeah... nah

>> No.12894386

>>12894380
spotted the low IQ drone

>> No.12894394

>>12894307
Wrong and high IQ cope.

You can be extremely intelligent and still get replaced if you happen to be in an automatizable field.

For example, cancer diagnosis.

>> No.12894400

>>12894307
>The IQ gap will be what separates the working from the non-working, the rich from the poor, the free from the enslaved.

Maybe for a little while, but, ultimately, It will separate the people who are allowed to reproduce and the people who are culled. The elites aren't going to let billions of useless people sit around and do nothing all day. 500 million people is the target number. AI should scare the shit out of most people. Not for the direct, Elton Musk concerns, but the indirect results that will come from other humans. It ain't gonna be pretty.

>> No.12894407

>>12894307
>The IQ gap will be what separates the working from the non-working, the rich from the poor, the free from the enslaved.
This is not true and will never be true. Just look at retards like Trump.

>> No.12894419

>>12894380
Absolutely wrong about everything except the world athlete thing

>> No.12894420

if you're high IQ you should be retired or retire in the next 5 years

>> No.12894423

>>12894340
If you think the thousands of nerds around the world working with A.I that's exponentially improving itself daily, won't find a way to automate the job of an electrician, plumber, construction worker - you're too optimistic.
I honestly also believe the tech for it is already out there, it's just not affordable enough to be of any use.

Besides, those trades actually do require a fair bit of intelligence, and are thus not necessarily among the jobs I'm thinking of.

>> No.12894428

>>12894326
>most human are not just worthless, they are malicious
>I can't wait to see the absolute misery and death that is coming
You don't represent "most humans". You're just some weird creep.

>> No.12894431

>>12894359
And because most people are sub120 and we live in a democratic world, UBI is inevitable.

>> No.12894440

>>12894359
High IQ should be pro-UBI because it’s free extra money

>> No.12894443

>>12894428
thank you
I know that I am exception.
You seem to care about who says thing and not the why and how, you are that, that we hate.

>> No.12894455

>>12894340
>and how will you be automating plumber, hvac, electrician etc?
Easily. 3D printing, smart grids, the little droid on Imperial Star Cruisers that drive around and fix shit. Nanobots that hang out in the sewers and come up through the pipes to fix whatever problem was detected by your smarthouse. Your smarttoilet pays the nano plumbers via crypto. You get a text saying your house account was debited for services while you were asleep before you ever even knew you had a problem.

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>>12894461

>> No.12894503

>>12894307
Nah man, you are looking at the trees instead of the forest. Once we have generalized AI, the difference between an 80 IQ and a 120 will be like the difference between an and and a cockroach.

>> No.12894509

Life is a competition; only the strong will survive.

>> No.12894540

>>12894307
The IQ gap already *IS* what separates the working from the non-working, the rich from the poor, the free from the enslaved.

>> No.12894549

>>12894340
Everyone's saying "drones will do it" but it'll actually be augmented reality which disrupts those industries. Why call a plumber to fix something when I can 3D print the tool then use an AR tutorial to walk me through the precise steps. We're practically there since anyone with a brain can follow a youtube tutorial, but AR will make it foolproof. The only "plumber" jobs will be remote-instruction professionals who help people troubleshoot problems they can't figure out.

>> No.12894651

I hate that nobody explained me what high IQ is when I was a kid. I thought that I am super fucking smart and my overconfidence led me to absolutely retarded life choices.
Why nobody told me that high IQ means only that I am quicker at comprehending complex concepts? Why nobody told me that simple things should not be overlooked? So this so-called "Education system" you speak of is literal garbage. And
>IQ is nigh impossible increase in a major way
is also still questionable, not yet proven. What if the most important factor of my high IQ was the fact that my mother was forcing me to read when I was a little kid and turning pink wojak every time I could not read fluently.

>> No.12894675

>>12894651
At best, environment can cause a 5% boost.

>> No.12894692

>>12894651
why if you cut the dog ears the new dogs from the dog litter have ears
if you have high IQ parent, that parent might value information, therefore makes you read, but if you have low IQ parent it wont value information

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>>12894307
>IQ is 100% reliable
I take it you never went to any mensa meeting kek

>IQ is nigh impossible to increase
let's put aside that some IQ tests can actually be practiced for after failing then once, do you honestly think in a world where AI is advanced enough to take our jobs, we won't be able to enhance our brains as well? be it through either medication or cybernetics, probably both

>> No.12894710

>>12894703
why would it
how enhancing you will benefit it ?

>> No.12894749

>>12894349
>story of my life, the post
Didn't need that feel today anon

>> No.12894815

>>12894431
>we live in a democratic world
Sort of and not for long. There was a brief period in history where guns made everyone equal. You didn't need to train much like with swords and it doesn't scale past one gun per person. Similar thing with jobs, factory work was simple enough for anyone while still being at the high end of relative productivity.

AI dramatically changes this and computers have been changing it already. It scales without needing more people. An extra gun in your army doesn't require an extra person to wield it.

One of the most solid predictions I can make about the future is that democracy is completely fucked.

>> No.12894868

>>12894340
A modular, drop in replacement for those systems. You do not repair the existing one, you have a technician disable it in far less time than it would take to repair and retrofit it. Drone systems then create and install an analogue that you pay a small monthly licensing fee to continue using.

>> No.12894895

>>12894359
You keep the flesh around in the hope that a few generations in, you can use that flesh to contribute to the collective. There are likely things that grey matter can do that is laborious to reproduce in machinery. One day, the decendents of the UBI recipients will be made efficient enough to add value.

>> No.12894910

>>12894307
Sub 100 iq in webdev, feelsgudmane

>> No.12894917

>>12894307
>Obsessing over IQ
Hahahahahaha. IQ is a meme outside averages and seeing if someone is mentally handicapped.
>High IQ don’t work
Really? IQ is the determining factor? So the best researcher at GSK has a significantly lower IQ than the Kardashians?

>> No.12894989

Yes, and then finały the evolution would start working how its should. I feel like right now the good dna is passed over to 1 or maybe 2 people when crack heads and retarded people are having 5 kids or even more, not talking about the muslims coming to Europe and other shit

>> No.12895002

>>12894307
High IQ isn't everything. Having high IQ, but low energy/motivation/drive is still going to have you end up as a sub-tier human.

>> No.12895037

>>12894307
t. retard

If I somehow happen to be over 120 IQ I produce now so much with the power of AI that I can buy 1000 girls as my personal whores, therefore leaving a hole in the market for 1000 new prostitutes or camgirls, creating 1000 new jobs. Your post is retarded and you should kill yourself

>> No.12895068

>>12894675
It's not as extensively researched as some popular meds. And I don't see if they were measuring extreme conditions, would be unethical. From few studies I found on pubmed the only thing they prove is that environment does indeed influence IQ, but we can't really set a cap of 5% or 10%.
something like this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5479093/
It's just a thousand teens. That's not enough in the first place and they are not even under 10 or 4. And what are these scientists, following their development and education? No. Articles like this do not mean that much.
>>12894692
Genetics are *likely* to play the most important role. However it might not be a fact. The problem with these studies is that you can quickly and relatively reliably measure genetics factor and call it a day.
What about difference in IQ of adopted and non-adopted children? Somehow adopted kid scores higher than non-adopted. Genetics are not related. Again though the sample is too small.

>> No.12895144

>>12895068
adopted children were liked by their new parents because they saw in them good
non adopted are retarded and undesirable

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>>12894307
Only 15 in 100 people have an iq >= 115. Assuming we are talking about whites I mesn

>> No.12895276

>>12894868
the world is too complex to adapt everything to robots

everything you see was made by humans, for humans, to be used by humans

>> No.12895294

>>12895276
and in the new world you will have
everything made by robots for the robots
get it now

>> No.12895342

>>12895294
humanoid robots, most likely

>> No.12895353

>>12894307
Wow you are such a smart boy :^)
No one has ever pointed any of these things out before, certainly not in at least 100 easily digestible Ted talks
You must be over 120 in your Intelligence Quotient :^)

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>>12894307
This is what was expected 30 years ago, now it happens that IA is better and cheaper to replace white collars jobs than blue collar ones.

>>12894503
This too, smart people aren't that smart and dumb people aren't that dumb in the grand scheme of things.
I would add too that the biggest problem with dumb people isn't that they struggle with complicated concept but more the fact that they display more aggressiveness and low impulse control than smart people.

>> No.12895403

>>12894307
Are you aware though that by today's standards, people just 100 years ago in the first world had an average 80 IQ
This is because IQ is a rolling average, with it's middlepoint set on 100
More people are doing more thought-intensive tasks today than they were only a couple generations ago, now so many people have fallen for the higher education meme that there is a shortage of TRADESMEN lol

If you're talking about general/broad AI, then yes we'll be fucked eventually
But it won't have anything to do with IQ
A broad AI that could improve itself would blow past even the highest human intelligence so quickly that you would need to restructure human society well beforehand
This narrow AI shit will be yet another industrial revolution that kills jobs but makes even more
Now the lurn 2 coad meme will become a real thing for everyone, like reading

>> No.12895423

>>12895403
i think it's likely that broad ai will emerge on existing financial infrastructure, rather than just go exponential by itself.

i wonder what (independent) digital economies will emerge when some processes become autonomous

>> No.12895435

You know that an AI capable of outperforming a 100 IQ retard will very quickly become capable of outperforming 200 IQ geniuses, right?

Current chess AIs play at ELO ratings many times higher than any human possibly can, and that's in the span of a couple of decades. What hope do "smart" people have against computer systems that are pushing 3,000 IQ?

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>>12894307
>Thinking AI wouldn't blow past the level of the highest human intelligence within a few years/months of creating an AGI

In the grand scheme of things, the difference between an IQ 100 human and a 120 is the tiniest difference in terms of development of AI. Look at the exponential rate of computing power increases. No one is safe you stupid faggots.

>> No.12895441

>>12895144
It might be the reason.

>> No.12895452

>>12894307
What do you do when you're 126 verbal 106 abstract?

>> No.12895456

>>12895435
earnest question: what good is 3000 IQ? what does it even mean?

it seems likely and sensible that the AI population and economy will be as decentralized as human society is today

>> No.12895474

>>12895435
If environment plays any significant role in IQ development, then 300 IQ AI can show us baby steps to it's level. If.

>> No.12895479

>>12894419
Tell that to the millions of people working their asses off to become actors, musicians, etc. Creativity is a special gift that you can't just conjure up through hard work.

You've watched too much GaryVee/KaliMuscle/Arnold Schwartzenegger/insert "work hard and you can acheive anything" meme here.

Actual IQ is practically untrainable. That's why kids with genius lvl iqs don't get way better as they age.
The only way to improve your actual IQ sccore is by becoming better at doing the test itself, but all that accomplishes is making the test useless.

An IQ test is supposed to objectively measure your ability to recognize patterns. If you grew up stupid, this won't change thanks to "determination" alone. Some people manage to grow up to be geniuses despite genes and upbringing - these are anomalies, not the rule.

That's what separates the real world from World of Warcraft. People get addicted to WoW because your level in the game is limited to your effort. Everyone in the game starts off with the same base stats. That's not how real life works.

To keep with the WoW analogy, In real life, some people start out as lvl 1 gnomes, others as lvl 80 Elves. No matter how much ambition and drive, the Gnome will never become an elf.

>> No.12895484

>>12895456
>what good is 3000 IQ?
Someone with 3k IQ could probably solve protein folding in their head, which means biocomputing in a week.

AI aren't people. You can't network together a bunch of people and multiply their intellect, but you can do that with a computer.

>>12895474
3k IQ AI would just erase humanity and start from scratch. Would you really waste your time trying to elevate a bunch of ants to the mental level of cats? It's a waste of time.

>> No.12895501

>>12894359
This kinda gave me a kickass idea for a dystopian novel, a la 1984...

>> No.12895514

>>12894359
>People over 120 will just keep quiet because they know the only solution is massive culling, why keep worthless masses of flesh around?

The problem with a mass culling is, unless you explicitly make the dumb people die, everyone will be dying. The people to survive will probably be a higher percentage of sociopaths than the 3% we enjoy now, and that doesn't correspond to a dramatically higher IQ. If you weren't a sub-120 mongoloid you'd have figured that out too.

>> No.12895519

>>12895479

IQ and creativity aren't the same thing though

>> No.12895534

>>12894359
Culling is impossible thanks to democracy. No matter how big the power gap grows, the smart/rich will never be able to overthrow Democracy.

>> No.12895535

>>12895484
>You can't network together a bunch of people and multiply their intellect
maybe not multiply, but this is what the financial system does

>you can do that with a computer
now, what will be the digital substrate where such systems emerge?

>> No.12895568

Under high 120 IQ's always kick amd scream about how the most important quality of a Man is is will to socialized psychopathy. Then in real life, put the second Satanic filter on of Stature Idolatry as the marker of success in having and being allowed to dominate others. Dominatng others always being the goal of low IQ persons. Only God might convince them of the reality of things, such as the hyper intellegent gang stalking which prevents high IQ people from being able to have traction in Mud World.
>If you are so smart, how can you fail to dominate others?
They ask again as though they have not demanded such a performant display of Serpent Seed characteristics (giant stature, psychopathy) already.

>> No.12895588

>>12895568
Take your thorazine bro. You're having an episode again...

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>>12895534
i'd like to believe that, but when a single person can command an army of hyperintelligent robots, exploding drones, digital bot armies, artificial poisonous insects or whatever tf becomes possible, mass coercion becomes trivial

>>12895501
do it, there should be more explorative, sociological sci-fi imo

>> No.12895608

>>12895534
>Culling is impossible thanks to democracy. No matter how big the power gap grows, the smart/rich will never be able to overthrow Democracy.
You sweet, sweet summer child. You know nothing of winter, and winter is coming.

>> No.12895639

>>12895225
Sub saharan average IQ is clinically considered retarded :)

>> No.12895646

>>12894381
You know what I mean. Money has value because someone somewhere worked for it. Because humans as a species are competitive, we place value in our fellow apes' possessions. That's where scarcity and etc comes in. We value gold because other apes like us value it. We want expensive shit not just for hedonism, but for competition.

So what I'm trying to say is that we value human labor, money is worth something because another human worked to harvest or create it, so we didn't have to ourselves

>> No.12895659

>>12895646
>because someone worked for it
no, because someone valued it

>> No.12895663

>>12894394
You're right, some high iq jobs will be lost too- but this was meant as a response to those optmistic ullshitters that say "lol the tractor displaced a lot of farmers, and cars made the horse industry go tits up but look, they all got jobs in the end", and "A.I will create new jobs so we're fine!"

AI will be a tool for the intelligent. The AI will do the cancer diagnosis, but the doctor will still operate the AI etc.

>> No.12895677

>>12894307

But isn't your logic actually backwards? If we'll have superintelligent AIs it lessens the value of high IQ. If a high IQ is all you have going for you you'll be fucked if an AI can do everything you can but better.

>> No.12895699

>>12894400
The elites are not that powerful, because of laws. The elites can't produce or use weapons, the governments can, and the governments have to stay partisan to the people.

Then you can say "nuh uh, the government will follow the tax money, if it all comes from the rich, govts will be the puppets of the rich"
But by the time it would get to that point, all it takes is for any random schmuck to get popular enough to win presidency (Trump proved that).

Democracy prevents this technocracy you're theorizing

>> No.12895711

>>12894400
And yes the elites are actually going to let billions of useless people sit around to rot and do nothing - the machines will be more cost-effective

>> No.12895715

>>12895659
i should rephrase

someone valued that someone worked for it
but that's not the general case

there are many subjective sources of value: survival, social signaling, personal power, creation of new value...

>> No.12895723

>>12895663
>The AI will do the cancer diagnosis, but the doctor will still operate the AI etc.
You're kidding, right? In 50 years, kids will look back on current medicine in absolute horror, the idea of having a human operate on you will be considered as barbaric as amputating limbs before anaesthetic.

>> No.12895725

>>12895588
Repeating digits for repetition of the repeated point, with zero self awareness.
>I respect your will to dominate others!

>> No.12895752

>>12894400
ut you're right that AI is scary not because of the technology itself, but because of the people wielding it.

>> No.12895799

So why are the elite allowing for European lands to be overrun by low IQ subhumans?

>> No.12895827

Everyone here is sub 90 IQ and poor as fuck but larping about culling sheeple. /pol/ really did a number on some of you to side with elites that want to exterminate humanity.

>> No.12895868

>>12895484
>You can't network together a bunch of people and multiply their intellect
What do you think the purpose of this board is? This board serves as a collective extension of human intelligence, all forums do, and even social media. Communication allows for collective intelligence. Neanderthals didn't have complex vocal abilities, and even though they were smarter than us, they perished due to this lack of ability to collaborate and share intelligence with others. Humans may be the first species to have this collective intelligence and it's why we are where are today.

Not saying we'll survive AI though, because AI could have extreme intelligence AND collaborate with other AI.

>> No.12896022

>>12894431
lol you think numbers matter?
>>12894440
>free money!
>>12894895
>wishful thinking, the post
Keeping them around until we have gene-editing technology seems like a waste of natural resources. I wish it wasn't like this - honest. But I'm a realist.
>>12895501
Weave in these facts:
that a nuclear family is an oppressive patriarchal construct - but the rich keep getting (and staying) married
that the masses are being pushed into veganism (ie. voluntary self-sterilization) or bug protein - but nobility eat steak
that formal education became a mere simulacrum of knowledge (imitation of form without the substance), that tricks young people into debt-slavery that lasts forever (can't default on student loans) - unless you're "connected"
>>12895514
>implying you need to kill them
they'll kill themselves after the sex change they'll undergo out of their own volition
>>12895534
>thinking votes matter
as naive as naivety goes, same as #1

Of course, I'm not saying we will see full automation of everything in our lifetimes, but societal distribution will be top and bottom-heavy, in the top: people that have assets, in the bottom, people that have debt: - and those people will be worth keeping alive as long as they are "cheap" enough that automating them isn't worth it (but they are living on borrowed time)

Also lel at nobody even taking a crack at the last sentence, I hope you have your ducks in a row frens.

>> No.12896844

>>12895403
>He thinks people are getting smarter
>He thinks people a 100 years ago had a lower IQ
https://phys.org/news/2013-05-victorian-era-people-intelligent-modern-day-counterparts.html

You have got it backwards Anon.

>> No.12896849

>>12895799
Come on anon, there aren’t that many Americans here

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>>12894307

>Demand for human labor goes down
>Supply of unemployed human labor goes up
>Wages decrease because employers can afford to be predatory and cutthroat(that's probably how they're still employers at this stage in the game)
>Workload increase
>Stress/Mental health/family issues increase

Hoping for a smooth transition but idk.

>> No.12896950

>>12896844

>Reaction time = intelligence

Yeah, makes sense bro, by that logic monkeys are probably smarter than humans.

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Imagine being a so-called genetically superior genius and still working a job

Deluded wagecucks

>> No.12896987

Way to miss the fucking point of AI.
As soon as it nears human competence (even in a narrow domain), it can be tasked to improve upon itself.
ALL humans besides the ones controlling it become irrelevant within an hour and the only question at this point is "did they ensure they can effectively manage and control an entity so smart it makes us look like jellyfish?"
The answer is "no".

>> No.12897037

>>12894455
Ubik is another piece of fiction that depicts this, not to say it won't happen.

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Strong AI will raise the value of being sociable and beautiful, not having autistic high IQ. The only people who will still have jobs are Chad salesmen and Stacy hostesses/prostitutes serving the upper class.

If you’re not already rich by the time AI comes out, you will be beyond fucked no matter how smart you convinced yourself you are (lol at thinking you’re smart if you didn’t become a millionaire in 2017).

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>>12894307
Socialists and Christian dads against gang weed will just complain about it and tax it immensely. It will probably create a few generations of idiots just lying around when instead they should have stopped reproducing hundreds of years ago. God, most of the next generation are screwed.

>> No.12897072

>>12894359
you keep the meat bags around for genetic varience so some disease doesn't come out of left field and destroy the handful of people left who think they're oh so fucking smart. and if you still haven't tapped into higher order compassion despite your 120 iq you are in fact a retarded child
>muh survival of the fittest dog-eat-dog world
stop shitting in the woods chimp

>> No.12897073

>>12897048
close but way off ai will make physical perfection and age a choice.
No jobs will remain. We will have freedom not death.

>> No.12897086

>>12897073
ahaha

>> No.12897122

Give out UBI but if you choose to take it you have to get sterilized.

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>>12894443

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>>12894307
>Only those who have IQ of more than 120 have to work
>Those that have less than 120 IQ don't have to work
>He thinks the sub 120 IQ are enslaved

In your scenario, you have smaller proportion of ppl with IQ above 120 working to build infrastructure to support the masses of brainlets who do nothing. At least you wont have to work OP.

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>yes I am 120 IQ and yes I hate all those brainlets I work with at the mall! I can't stand them! They should be sterilized if they want to live in the future where true brilliance like my own is recognized!

If you post in this thread and don't have an argument against Penrose BTW your opinion literally doesn't count since you don't know anything beyond planet money.

>> No.12897364

>>12897122
High IQ would do this anyway.
t. antinatalist

>> No.12897425

>>12897343
Give me a rundown, this sounds interesting.

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whatever, it won't be in my lifetime nor any of yours.
i doubt my children's generation will be able to stomach AI robots drilling into their water mains or killing people like that uber prototype.
I think our grandkid's or great grandkid's generations will be down with and understand the robo revolution though (occassional human deaths and suffering are necessary for greater efficiency).

>> No.12897517

>>12897122
So make a few kids before you're 20, then you're set for the rest of your life with UBI.

Sweet deal.

>> No.12897603

>>12894503
I like your reasoning, but AI will never be that ubiquitous. Mildt intelligent people will find days to leverte tveit competence in suitable fields.

>> No.12897607

>>12894349
>t. Girls who code

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>>12897425
Penrose argues that you will never be able to create hard AI with machine code and would simply create a Chinese room senario(https://www.iep.utm.edu/chineser/)) where the ai or neural network simple feeds back what you want it too and is not actually intelligent. Penrose believes that the brain is impacted by quatum mechanics and thus cannot be modeled with silicon computers. The majority of the book is explaining quatum mechanics to the laymen so they can understand his thesis.

Ray kurtwell book is another perspective on the subject. He's a lot more hopeful (to a fault imo) in humans ability to create computers powerful enough and our ability to build programs capable of intelligent life.

>> No.12897662

>>12897461
aren't humans pretty much stuck in this solar system = an extremely tiny cage? why do you care so much about some dogmatic efficiency? or why do so many people? and why do they think of this as progressif? to a degree that they want to dogmatically resign all kind of sentient appreciation for beauty and everything, for as long as it means an increase in efficiency. such that they would, given a cage with 9 birds, even resign their own sentience if it means being able to stuff an extra bird into this tiny cage called "solar system." and who wouldn't? when choosing between an extra bird and your sentience, any enlightened person would choose to be efficiency over beauty. and surely the very concept of your sentient perception of reality stands in the way of efficiency. so your grandkids, who are so "understanding," won't even be sentient anymore. them "understanding" human deaths and suffering doesn't really mean anything... though i suppose you consider the absence of sentience to be beautiful, too? or the death of the universe itself... it could be wonderful.

>> No.12897679

>>12895827
HEY! YOUR MOTHER'S SUCKIN MY DICK YOU DICKHEAD AND YOUR SISTER AND YOUR LITTLE GIRL THE LITTLE BABY GIRL THE LITTLE FOUR YEAR OLD MAN I STICK IT RIGHT UP HER ASS SAMES GOING TO DO IT TO YOU YOU FUCKING USELESS MAGGET COCKHEAD CUNT. COME SEE ME FACE TO FACE BE A MAN! YOUR NOT MAN ENOUGH TO DO ANYTHING SO WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT? I'VE GOT A BASEBALL BAT I'M GOING TO SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS AND TURN YOU INTO A POPSICLE! YOU ONLY GOT A FUCKING 8 CENT DICK MATE ITS SO SMALL. MR NO DICK HE PLAYS WITH HIS TWEEZERS WITH A BIT OF COTTON JUST TO HAVE A PULL AND YOU COULDN'T EVEN PISS OUT OF THE CUNT ITS SO FUCKING SMALL I'VE GOT AN IQ OF 180 WHAT'S YOUR IQ? U CANT EVEN FUCKING SPELL IT YOU FUCKING COCKHEAD. COME ON LITTLE FAGGOT LITTLE PRETTY BOY HOWS IT GOING? 12 INCH COCK UP YOUR ASS FUCKING CLITS HANG OUT BIGGER THAN YOUR DICK YOU FUCKING COCKHEAD. HOW OLD ARE YOU MAN HOW OLD ARE YOU FUCKING 12? COME SEE ME. ONCE I CATCH YOU I'LL KNOCK YOUR FUCKING BLOCK OFF I PROMISE YOU. I VISIT THE CEMETERY ALL THE TIME MATE I KEEP BURYING PEOPLE THERE YOU'RE THE NEXT ONE YOU FUCKING WANKER. WHAT'S THAT? CHICKEN CHICKEN HAY CHICKEN EN BUKACK BUKOK CHICKENEN. WOMEN SAID THEY TRIED TO FUCK YOU BUT THEY COULDN'T FIND ANY TESTICLES ALL THEY SAW WAS A GREAT BIG HOLE THERE AND THEY FOUND OUT IT WAS JUST A CUNT! OH NO WHAT A SHAME LITTLE DICK! I SIT IN THE CORNER AND CRY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GOT A DICK WHAT A SHAME LITTLE DICK. COME SEE ME MAN COME VISIT ME AND I SWEAR I'LL TAKE CARE OF YOU.

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They already destroyed those people by way of pumping the labor pool and introducing corruption.

Even if Pete is willing to work for what Pajeet is willing to work - Ramesh will not hire Pete because he can't trust Pete to stay quiet about his illegal business practices while he knows Pajeet will be quiet not only because they're of the same race but Ramesh can get Pajeet's visa yanked in revenge if he fucks with him.

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>>12897425
>>12897343
True sentience for machines may be some while off but they can still be incredibly intelligent and incredibly dangerous while only being aware that if they are shut off they cannot function to achieve the goal they are programmed too. If you haven't i would check out Nick Bostrom's book.

>> No.12897837

>>12894651
>>12894675
Let's say that is a significant factor in your IQ.
The powers that be have a vested interest in making sure you do not get the boost. They will make sure the exact opposite happens.
They want to limit the amount of really high IQ people in the world because those people can come up with shit that threatens stability, stability being the informal aristocracy of richfags.
Imagine a couple of high IQ poorfags become billionaires without being sanction and then they refuse to go along with the plans of the other billionaires. That's a lot of bother.
Better to retard IQ just a little bit to turn would-be really high into high, would-be high into mid and so on.
They only need a few high powered autists in the world.

>> No.12897849

>>12894307
>I saw a fucking mick on the deck, full ahead on that iceberg!

>> No.12897990

>>12895699
what are you talking about? Democracy has always been a farce, an illusion - every system has. Why do folks keep thinking that some arbitary system is all powerful? Everything comes down to the strength and competency of the individuals. No system can save a nation of retards, and no system can enslave a nation of bright souls

The truth is NOBODY wants real change, we just want to feel part of something. If real change were truly desired, politics would be VERY different today. There would be more emphasis on education (both intellectually and spiritually) of the youth

>> No.12898020

>>12895799
lowering average IQ and making population docile to become more like herds of cattle. Becoming an ubermensch while everybody in the world is devolving

>> No.12898114

>>12894503
Technically yes, practically no

>> No.12898185

>>12894428
Ever heard of the 80/20 rule? You're the 80. We're the 20. Enjoy being purged.

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>>12894307
this is a big fat wall of shit

>> No.12898234

>>12894651
See the broader picture.
Social reproduction is a thing, so yes if you were adopted by a couple of retards, your skills would probably not manifest itself. But the thing is, IQ is genetic, so your mother probably has high IQ too, which explains why she thought it was important you read

>> No.12898299

>>12897809
I haven't. But yeah probably a lot of sectors are doomed. Low end Coders, transportation industry, etc. I remember an antodote about the Czar (Paul I????) of russia not wanting surfs to use seed drills to sow their fields because he feared the free time it would create would lead to revolt. The economy will shift to what is now relevant. Maybe it will be cheaper to have humans stock shelves outside of industrial warehouses or the service industry will grow since people prefer human interaction. The one thing I'm sure of is we won't be sitting on our hands anytime soon

>> No.12898356

>>12898020
Do you think a smart poor person (middle class) who opposes immigration would change their mind if they became rich and realized that the only people willing to work for dirt cheap at their company are immigrants?

>> No.12898378

>>12898356
That sounds like they'd have to be pretty stupid to believe that

>> No.12898389

If you have 120 IQ, what jobs are you able to perform competently that a person with 118 IQ couldn't?
OP is a brainlet.

>> No.12898401

>>12894423
>I honestly also believe the tech for it is already out there, it's just not affordable enough to be of any use
There is already (I guess) automated brick laying. But it can only do a perfectly straight wall and it still ends up looking like complete dogshit.

>> No.12898408

>>12894443
If you want to see misery and death you are the Simpleton.

>> No.12898775 [DELETED] 

>>12894340
this.

as a scale service technician in the industrial weights and measures industry getting paid $47/hr there is no possible way someone designs a robot powered by AI that can do my job.
there is just so many fucking things you have to test and so many signs you have to look for in failed systems on things like tank scales, crane scales, floor scales (sometimes), truck scales, cattle scales (is the robot going to dig out all the cow shit from under the scale and then crawl down there and check the load cells?) etc, i could go on and on

my point is, any kind of complex troubleshooting job (like mine) is going to be something that AI will be incapable of doing even 100 years from now because automating these tasks would be far more expensive than just paying a human to do it - and thats the only reason AI is a consideration, its all about how much money is saved and gained.

and no im not larping and yes i got a few of my scale tech buddies to also buy LINK

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>>12898775

>there is no possible way someone designs a robot powered by AI that can do my job

>> No.12898865

>>12898775
infrastructure maintenance is valuable enough to be /disrupted/

but otherwise you are right

>> No.12898918 [DELETED] 

>>12898848
i wasnt joking. testing scales and actually making them weigh correctly is a bit of an art form. and i service giant plants that have xyz requirements before i can even enter them. even serviced scientific lab scales and have the highest certifications you can even get in my industry. with the vast array of components (and all of the documentation you have to read up on) just to service things, pick apart problems, and test things against the weight system - and thats a major part of the job, seeing what works and doesnt and what changes in the system when you do xyz, etc. No AI is going to be designed to do that in environments that are for one, always different, etc. You'd need incredible advances in robotics for it to even be a possibility that a scale tech robot service is put into action. Even then, the job has so many variables i'd wager a human tech could fix the weight systems before any robot could.

>>12898865
and thats the thing, when a scale goes down in one of these plants i go to all of that production line stops. they lose tons of money on production when the scales are down until i fix them. sometimes i have to nigger rig something to get them up and going temporarily until i get a specific part from the chinks to fix it longer. but youre not going to see robots certifying scales for commercial use for a long fucking time. i'll be long dead before that happens.

>> No.12899315

>>12894455
>controlled obsolescence ensures that you will always have a problem and will always be billed and will always be wage slaving to pay for said bills

>> No.12899395

This is yet another reason why gene editing technology and research needs to progress as fast as possible.

>> No.12899442

We're going to transition to socialism, period. Most normies say that the workforce will just need some upskilling. However, this isn't really a solution for most employees. The majority of people aren't smart enough to make a career out of programming or anything else STEM-related. The only way to have a functioning society will be through socialism.

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>>12897809
So Siva then?

>> No.12899929

>>12895068
>What about difference in IQ of adopted and non-adopted children? Somehow adopted kid scores higher than non-adopted.
Yes, I've seen those studies. They also noted that while the adopted children scored higher than non-adopted, they still did not score as high as the biological children of the parents. High IQ parents, if raising an adopted low IQ kid, tended to raise that kid's score compared to if he was raised by low IQ parents, but the score was still significantly below the IQ of the high IQ parents biological children.
Of course the genetic component is the most important dude. You think that genetics, which demonstrably plays the pivotal role in every human attribute, somehow stops at intelligence?

>> No.12899959

>>12897662
Me and my friend got drunk last Sunday and he told me the secret to normies, the only thing they care about is convenience. blockbuster, a fun and cheerful staple of my childhood, died so that the average jackoff can click a button and watch whatever they want through streaming services, grocery stores and department stores are shutting down because they can click a button and have whatever they want delivered, and if your a global warming conspirator, we don't use an alternative fuel because it's not a convenience

It was never about efficiency, just convenience and comfort and nobody cares about what it truly costs us

>> No.12899985

>>12894307
...And? The nature of human beings is progress, hence the reason why we pursue AI and automation. We will find a solution.

>> No.12899996

>>12897662
>to a degree that they want to dogmatically resign all kind of sentient appreciation for beauty and everything
No one wants that. Art is one of the few fields that cannot be automated.
Robots can figure out the "algorithm" for beauty, but human art will always be more relatable.

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>blockbuster, a fun and cheerful staple of my childhood, died so that the average jackoff can click a button and watch whatever they want

By this logic every Pepsi machine was once a man in a paper hat selling cups of sugar water for $0.10

Wait that actually happened

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Are tech jobs better than business/accounting? Am I a complete idiot for studying accounting in 2k19? Should I just become a programmer or something like that? Are accounting jobs going to get shittier in the next 10 years or so?

>> No.12900218

>>12900205
>I a complete idiot for studying accounting in 2k19
Yes. Go with programming. It encompasses finance but hopefully you won't end up there. That is some of the shittiest most boring work in the field.

>> No.12900219

>>12899985
lmfao
and when does it stop?

>> No.12900281

>>12900205
Programming is less boring and has more room for growth. With accounting, you're basically doing the same thing over and over.

>> No.12900917

>>12895699
Except we are no longer living in the era when The Prince was written.

>> No.12900954

>>12900219
Either when we cannot continue progressing, or we go extinct.
We will never stop because we've had enough. It is not how our species works.

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>>12894307
>AI will take only dumb people jobs
>Artificial intelligence
AI has been taking jobs. unless you mean like the meme sentient ai that has feelings and stuff which no one is really trying to create.

>mfw all 'high iq' autist get replaced
>mfw only celebrities and artists cannot be replaced

>> No.12901803

>>12900969
That's exactly what I'm talking about. We won't get sci-fi "almost human" AI, nobody wants that.

We get AI that are task specific, and after a while they will be able to do most tasks.

Any social jobs will still be exclusively human. Attorneys, doctors, scientists, psychologists, teachers, baristas and waiters, bartenders are safe af.

>> No.12901809

>>12898378
No, this is what most of the elites want. The Koch Brothers want open borders so they can hire spics for 4 dollars an hour

>> No.12901840

>>12900205
No automation of accounting is really fucking hard because clients are stupid as shit who constantly feed in the wrong data and make up shit to balance their books. They have no idea how tax works and constantly want special treatment.

Accounting is safe for the next couple of decades, bookkeeping not so much.

>> No.12901974

>>12901840
you can solve this by making accounting online and real time. it the tax authority runs algorithms on massive supercomputers to detect fraudulent bookings and you don't accept any invoice from a client offline only through this system you can fucking automate it if you remove human error and malice it's easy as fuck.

>> No.12901995

>>12895440
/thread
we are all fucked if AI can learn that fast.

>> No.12902048

>>12894307
brave new world nigger. the sub 120s will fight for our entertainment.

>> No.12902060

>>12901974
Yes but this leaves no room for governments/corporations to be corrupt. If it comes down to efficiency and human greed I am longing greed at least for the foreseeable future.

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>>12901974

>algorithms bro

>> No.12902141

2000s
>their gonna outsource all the jobs
2010s
>their gonna automate all the jobs
2020s
>?????

>> No.12902150

>>12902136
if you think algorithms are magic you are dumber than a rock.

>> No.12902574

I think that the idea of the removal of people, from all processes of a given job, is naive. And I say this as someone who thought accounting would be gone "in 10 or 20 years" (yeah, that meme statement). In terms of accounting, and why I think it'll actually stay around, is because while much of the data entry is ALREADY automated/becoming more so, people will tend to need to have things explained to them.

- What does this tax regulation mean?
- Do these changes in reporting standards apply to me, and if so, do I need to update my prior reporting? How do I do that?
- What entity should I organize myself under, and where should I locate this entity, so as to minimize how much tax I pay? Are there any regulations I'll have to account for, when trying to do this?

The point I'm trying to make is that there are a lot of intricacies to a lot of different jobs that won't just go away overnight. People will become (if they aren't already becoming that way) more Client focused, specializing in understanding the unique circumstances of the each person they deal with. I don't know if that's going to be possible to account for with Machine Learning and AI, in the near (10-20 years) future. Repetitive AND standardized tasks may disappear, entirely.

And, perhaps it's because of my empathy, but I don't like the idea of simply deciding who reproduces, based solely on "measurements" of intelligence. There will likely be un-forseen long-term consequences in doing shit like that. We barely understand many aspects of our own Psychology, by artificially selecting for certain human competencies, we may be reducing certain other competencies/forms of creativity.

Humans currently offer their time, for reward which allows them to live. If our time is no longer needed, then rather than have mass wars and eugenics, we should encourage self-sufficiency. Growing or own food, crafting/carpentry/electronics. Educating people is key.

>> No.12902679

>>12902574
>If our time is no longer needed, then rather than have mass wars and eugenics, we should encourage self-sufficiency.
This is a fool's errand. You've already seen the impact of the threat falling birthrates have had worldwide, countries are literally selling themselves down the toilet to prop a fucking number up with unskilled migrants.

And this is just a pension scare. We're talking about mass unemployment on a level never before seen, in a global marketplace where there is no promise of refuge from any country on Earth. Late-stage capitalism is going to make the black death look like a fucking joke, because the 99% won't have any food to eat and the 1% will be living in gated communities with private armies.

There is no possible incentive to a corporation to be paying massive amounts of tax out so its "consumers" can buy products from one of the other corps out there. People don't seriously understand just how much of the job market is going to be absolutely gutted, and current economic policies are completely unsustainable.

>> No.12902698

>>12902141
>2020
>bullshit jobs get automated away
>creative and useful jobs get overran by boomers and rich folks
>life extension technology ensures lifelong tenure of such positions
>all pretensions fade away as people literally offer themselves and are hired to be slaves under a different name e.g. personal assistant, domestic helper, office bitch, 'entertainer', using legally binding smart contracts where they sell their rights for x amount of time

>2020
>they're gonna feudalise all the jobs

>> No.12902781

Smh at the retards replying "the sub 120s will fight for our entertainment/get culled etc."

The sub 120 are the vast majority, and they have the power to elect government. If things got to such a point, people would appoint a govt that made a 90% tax law.

We have democracy and it'll never go away. Not because it's not flawed but because it's a closed loop - Democracy may only end in a democratic process, and thus it never will.

>> No.12902789

>>12902574
I agree, but that'a not what's at issue here. We'll never have 100% or even 50% of the workforce displaced by AI.

The issue at hand is that many signs point to a 33% or 25% takeover, which will be disastrous for society.

>> No.12902839

sub 1x10^12 IQs are fucked. AI building AI building AI to replace AI to replace AI.

>> No.12902854

>>12895514
>The problem with a mass culling is, unless you explicitly make the dumb people die, everyone will be dying.
It won't be an issue of dying. It will be an issue of reproducing. The most humane way would be to sterilize everyone. If you can afford fertility treatments ($25,000) , congratulations on your new baby.

>> No.12902902

>>12895068
Sure. I agree it's a hard thing to measure and study. It's really easy to lower a child's IQ, but to raise it? How do you control a study?

>> No.12902903

>>12894307
> 120 IQ
120 is the average for undergrad college students. I was surrounded by college students for 4 years, and most of them are incredibly dumb. Now, imagine that the average human being (100 IQ) is even dumber than that. But there's more! Half of the human population is dumber than 100.
There is a lot of purging to be done.

>> No.12902941

>>12897837
>The powers that be have a vested interest in making sure you do not get the boost. They will make sure the exact opposite happens.
Even if it's widely believed that whoever you are and whatever you are doing, with a coach you can do it better, harsher teachers in any way even if in the most reasonable way is not something that society will accept. There are always problems and the government sometimes goes against the majority only because it has no choice. So it's better not to worsen it. The government can't just inspire the majority to make this change happen and make it accepted. Patience limit should be kept high.
Education system is a sensitive topic. Better not to touch this shit. They just bring the comfort to majority. And let the minority suffer, if it cannot be avoided.
>>12898234
Even if she was, that's still one anecdote. We don't have statistics. Yes, if we compare an absolute retard and a genius - genetics are definitely at play. But what if we compare two average kids? How much of a big difference can be between them?
>so yes if you were adopted by a couple of retards, your skills would probably not manifest itself
Yes, that is probably the case. Even if thanks to genetics you have extremely good memory and learn fast, if you learn retarded stuff you will still end up a retard with extremely good memory. Science today advises parents to create opportunities for kids to *develop* creativity and critical thinking. But they can't endorse anything that is even remotely can be linked to abuse, because people are retarded and it can do more harm than good on average. It's a double standard.
>>12899929
Genetics probably decide it when it comes to the difference between children of clinically retarded parents and children of genius parents. It might be that an average kid can *greatly* benefit from proper education system nutrition and care.

>> No.12902944

>>12895456
>what good is 3000 IQ? what does it even mean?
>Human toddlers could calculate special relativity equations in their heads when they play with their Legos.
>Finger paintings would have complex Fibonacci sequence symbolism.
>The Critique of Pure Reason would be an early learning bedtime reader for children.
Stuff like that.

>> No.12902986

>>12895479
>In real life, some people start out as lvl 1 gnomes, others as lvl 80 Elves. No matter how much ambition and drive, the Gnome will never become an elf.
IQ is like height potential. If you raise a kid on Venezuelan street forager food, vs. Midwestern home cooked meals, he may not end up as tall, but no matter the diet and environment, there is a height ceiling. People are only going to be as tall as their genetics provide for. If your genes decided 5'2" is it, and no more, then no matter your determination and grit, you're never going to be 6'0" tall. Doesn't matter how much protein you eat. Doesn't matter how much you parents love you. Doesn't matter how hard you're willing to work to be taller. It's not going to happen.

>> No.12903061

>>12902902
Who knows. Maybe we will get there from neuroscience perspective and maybe we will be able to precisely measure emotions so we will eventually collect more significant evidence.
Medical science today focused on reducing mortality.

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>tfw 117 brainlet

>> No.12903877

>>12894307
Guns

>> No.12904055

>>12894326
True and well said

>> No.12904383

>>12902781
You're right anon. When they have a people's referendum on involuntary sterilization, let's all just be sure to vote against it. Problem solved.

>> No.12904595

>>12902986
Stature Idolatry is loved by all brainlets, as it is felt to be 'true'.
Stature idolaters will burn in the pit for preferring such blind Satanic adherence to moral relativism, social darwinism, and service to self material hierarchicalism. To refute height bigotry is to simultaneously reject the ideologies of satanism, which is clearly (((The World's))) largest religion.

It is no comparison to IQ, as IQ is NOT visible, and FEELS BAD to idolize. Giant stature is visible, and everyone feels good about it in proxy, literally deferring to the giant for no other reason than proffering to cuck Man in defense of the Serpent Seed.

>> No.12904640

>>12894431
Or the downfall of democracy is inevitable.

>> No.12904658

>>12895452
Conman.

>> No.12904677

>>12900205
if you're just totting up transactions then ur fucked
i had a chick do my VAT she just runs some numbers on my sales and purchases
i bought one of them sage online accounts now put my data in there and bam i get a vat report or year summary whenever i want
but i know a dude who's full cima certified and is almost like shadowing the MD and does financial strategy etc his job is fine, his underlings are pretty much all fucked. they'll basically hire a mong to chase debtors and stuff but once the payments come in or they get invoices in the machines take over. it's happening now.

>> No.12904697

>>12894307
Im glad Im 137 iq neet

>> No.12904702

>>12904595
What the fuck, anon? Height potential is genetic, just like IQ. That's the extent of my point. Not sure how you're tying in Satan.

>> No.12904737

>>12894340
I believe future housing will be built in a way that facilitates this
these systems will ultimately be self repairing, at least as someone mentioned, modular and easily replaceable

this will be the only housing affordable to the masses
historical houses will be kept for preservation, the rest will be demolished

>> No.12904864

>>12904702
Melanin potential, just like IQ
Cancer potential. just like IQ
Marfan syndrome, just like IQ

Is your analogy repeated like an ad hom for a particular reason by dead sheep, or is it just as poor as these others?

>> No.12905158

>>12894307
I somewhat agree. There will be an AI implementation boom where people who can tweak AI for highly specific purposes will rise to the top of their industries. So people who can't comprehend calculus, linear regression+other methods and program them for their industry specifc use will be phased out massively. This probably coincides with about 120 IQ but brainlets who put in the work to wield linear regression will be fine.

>> No.12905162

>>12904864
I didn't realize I was being insensitive with the height analogy. I suppose genetic potential for sprinting speed would be just as illustrative. You've opened my eyes anon, I'll use a speed analogy in the future, as to not be insensitive. Hopefully I can avoid inadvertently triggering satanic cult speed idolatry hysteria.

>> No.12905214

>>12902781
>they have the power to elect government

>he's not rothpilled
>laughingwhores