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Is smoking weed acceptable for someone trying to reach their full career earning potential?

>> No.12839827

>>12839809
Depends how high your ambitions, anon. Weed makes you complacent but can help cope with being a worker bee or in some creative fields. Personally I smoke weed while working remotely and I'm still productive though sometimes it makes me autistic on the phone.

>> No.12839853

No. Go workout and read.

>> No.12839874

You can be productive on weed with the right strains. I've always found lemon haze and jack herrer to be good for that. Your milage may vary of course.

>> No.12839925

That’s like asking if you can reach your full career potential if you drink alcohol.

If you’re blacking out, yelling at your friends, winding up in the drunk tank then it’s unlikely.

>> No.12839945

>>12839809
Imagine her pooping after a night with tons of alcohol and kebab. That would be fucking gross

>> No.12839973

>>12839827
Remote stoner here, I can confirm everyone can smell the weed through the phone and you're going to get fired

>> No.12839974

>>12839809
Imagine the smell. I'd ask her to fart in my whiskey.

>> No.12839994

>>12839809
Weed tricks your brain into being satisfied with a mediocre life.

>> No.12840070

>>12839925
This here. Excess weed had a negative impact for me. Moderation seems to work well.

Taking a break for a while from it as I get myself to a better place, then revisiting it. Aim is enhancement, not centered. Still, smoking as much as I did was better than the equivalent in drinking.

Weed seemed to help me understand aspects of life.

>> No.12840239

>>12839945
I'm sorry, did you mean glorious?

>> No.12840246

>>12839809
My life has gone downhill since I stopped smoking weed. I'm on the verge of losing my $150k/yr job and my friend group. Things just seemed to fall into my lap career-wise when I was smoking regularly.

>> No.12840263

>>12839994
This

t.daily smoker for 20 years

>> No.12840296

I love cannabis, pretty much everything about it. I'm trying to move primarily to dabbing mostly solventless concentrates. I only use cannabis to add value to my life though, I don't think many have the willpower to not ruin what can be a good thing.

>> No.12840310

No. Its literally the opposite thing you should be doing. Weed makes you a complacent piece of shit. If you are going to drugs (degenerate) at least do adderall or coke

>> No.12840311

>>12839874
>the right strains
Lol kys you dumb pothead

>> No.12840334

>>12839809
I work front office asset management and smoke weed every fucking day when I get home because I've only got 3-4 hours max to relax before bed.

>> No.12840353
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>>12839994
being sober has made me want to overthrow greedy capitalist scum, who propagate the insidious ideology of hard work paying off

>> No.12840373

>>12839994
Sweet, I can save money by not buying into the consumerist life.

>> No.12840404

I’m super addicted. I’m a music producer though so it makes more sense. Helps me mix through long sessions. Hate being dependent though I’m fucked

>> No.12840469

>>12840311
>cannabis strains are all the same
He is right you uneducated schmuck. Sativa and indica have two very different chemical makeups.

>> No.12840481

No.
>Don't believe the hype bro, it makes you a retard. Don't trust Coke about diabetes, don't trust the people trying to promote weed about it turning you into a retarded slob.

>> No.12840512

>>12840469
the effects of cannabis are attributable to cannabinoids and terpenes, compounds found in the cannabis plant, regardless of 'strains'. And while some cannabinoids and terpenes may be found more commonly in an "indica" or a "sativa," none are found exclusively in one consistently enough to say an indica and a sativa will definitively cause specific effects. You uneducated Schumck. You have been reading adverts, and mistaking them for information.

>> No.12840587

the strainz woo really pisses me off. its classic addict reasoning. The addict knows he is fucking up his life, and tries to rationalise a way he can reasonably continue his addiction & destructive behaviour. Those who promote weed understand consumer psychology. That's how multi-billion dollar industries work. They understand that the empty claims that there are non-sedative weed options will encourage the user into a "permissible" frame of mind. ("I can keep smoking every day, I just need to find the right strain to be productive, so i'm just gonna smoke in the mean time, it'll be alright")
>It's advertising, and it's ballocks.

>> No.12840805

>>12840512
Thanks for clearing that up while proving my point.

>> No.12840834

Absolutely

Smoking weed is essential to making it

>> No.12840836

I always try to find this girl with image searches and fail.

>> No.12840847

>>12839809
where does her thighs/waist stop and ass begin?

>> No.12840855

>>12839809
I just smoked weed for the first time last night
After taking a huge hit, it felt like I had to puke so I tried to, but nothing came out. Then I started sweating bullets so I sat in front of an open refrigerator and started covering myself with ice as I felt like I was dying
20 minutes later I felt fine, but there was never a point in the next four hours that I felt high

>> No.12840865

>>12840834
LoL - Check out the comprehension skills on this guy OP.
>you wanna be like this spastic?

>> No.12840879

>>12840587
Absolute moron

>> No.12840892

>>12840855
That's Carbon Monoxide poisoning mate. Carbon Monoxide is a gas produced by combustion, the structure of which makes your lungs absorb it instead of oxygen, resulting in the sickness you describe until such time the carbon monoxide exposure has cleared (you stop smoking) and sufficient oxygen has reentered your system. Its a common thing in new smokers (who inhale any kind of smoke).

Your virgin system was probably so whacked by the carbon monoxide that you didn't have a chance to inhale enough smoke to actually get high....

>> No.12840908

>>12840879
Yeah me and my understanding of chemistry and presentation of basic facts. what a retard I am. The truths hurts I guess bro. But you keep on believing those sales pitches, fucking loser.

>> No.12840911
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>>12839809
No.

>> No.12840919

>>12839809

if you use it as occasional relaxant. No more that couple of times a week. It can really help to relax and give fresh ideas

>> No.12840938
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>>12840892
glad to know what exactly happened; here's to (You)

>> No.12840963

>>12840865
Lol kys

>> No.12840978

>>12840919
Yeah, people who can do this will be fine. However, in my experience people who smoke, smoke like fuck.
It's an instant fix for boredom, depression, low life quality etc.: and that's why it can be dangerous. It won't solve any of these things, just mask problems that will return tomorrow, while making you unproductive and dumb.
After a few years of this you will be way behind your peers, and a viscous cycle is on the cards. I've seen people let a decade slip by in this cycle, in no better position than they were at at 21.
Getting high is a way of making a boring life a bit more interesting. Why not just put in work and get to an interesting space in your life?
Its a temporary, easy way out for 99% of the people that smoke it, and all the while their problems get bigger and bigger, and the are just watching sponge bob and jerking off.

>> No.12840987

>>12840963
Sweet comeback bro. Anyone saying you guys are fucking lobotomised is (clearly) talking out of their ass.

>> No.12841003

" a viscous cycle "

>the cycle will be vicious, as well as thick and gooey.

>> No.12841005
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12841005

I smoke erryday and I make $250k/yr

You just need to follow these rules:
1. Don't smoke until after your work and errands are done, and never earlier than 8 PM
2. Don't let your coworkers know that you're a degenerate stoner

>> No.12841042

nice larp. check out how long it takes cognitive function to return to normal after smoking weed. I know you won't believe me, but its empirically tested at about 48 hours.
you are either 16, or work at McDonald's, and a smoker making 250k is something you just want to believe, to rationalise your own behaviour.
I'd bet; in reality, you wake up role a joint, go to a monotonous job, come home role a few joints and fall asleep in front of your playstation.

>> No.12841076

>>12841042
how long does it takes cognitive function to return to normal after drinking alcohol?

>> No.12841090

yes because it's all bullshit. the weed will help you to know which bullshit to say to get your ass in the right place and time to be promoted.

>> No.12841108

>>12841076
about 12. But people who drink every day, die.
the problem with weed is that its insidious, it wont turn you into a tramp, it wont have you stealing, or punching your wife: you can do it all day every day and not die, you can do simple jobs and be entertained by very little. you can get by. but after a good few years of getting baked, eating booberries and watching cartoon network, you find you ain't got no real skills, and when you take weed out of the equation, your life is really, really depressing.

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>>12841108
that's still true even if you don't smoke.

>> No.12841133

>>12841090
100% you can totally get a cisco architect job and understand vast complex network engineering questions by just inhaling an intoxicating plant. fucking genius.
>This is a classic example of the stoner being stuck with a teenagers understanding of how the world works, because they've been to baked to learn how to adult.

>> No.12841146

>>12841133
lol? yes, you literally can get high and learn network engineering and do the job at cisco.

>> No.12841152

>>12841112
but if you're sober you can fight bro. you can read that boring ass TA book, you can slog through learning Linux. you can get to work on time and pay attention to what you are doing. You can fight and maybe, you can win.

>> No.12841169

>>12841146
you can be a plug-it-in-pete for sure that's one of the monotonous, brain dead jobs stoners can hold on to. No one getting architect certs is getting high. Its like saying you can do ironman and eat KFC 3 times a week.

>> No.12841216

>>12840908
U sound like u need to get high bro

>> No.12841330
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>>12841169
You have an irrational fear of cannabis and should probably try it before making your juvenile conclusions. I know people personally who smoke lots of weed and are greatly successful at home and in their careers. Not to mention far more in tune with things than some seething basement faggot who cries about weed adverts on a picture forum.

>> No.12841335

lol yeah it might help me chill out a bit. Weed is being pushed on dumb young people big time, by some pretty sinister commercial interests.
They are telling these kids all kinds of mad nonsense, and kids don't know no better.
>it genuinely pisses me off.
trust me bro, Big Weed is just like Big Tobacco was in the 30s / 40s. and a lot of kids are going to flunk out and fuck up, thinking they are doing something really special, when in reality they are getting intoxicated and sitting about like a jerk. Also I genuinely think it will be one of the factors cynically employed to pacify western populations as our quality of life declines, like soma in brave new world.

>> No.12841363

>>12841330
who says I've never smoked weed champ?
and does a burning plant "in tune with things", yeah? of course it does. its totally spiritual and magical, and that's not just mindless hype.

People who smoke weed can have loved ones and jobs. success and daily intoxication don't go together, except in very easy gigs like music or art. and so few people have the connections or the breaks for that to be viable.

>> No.12841376

and does a burning plant *put you* "in tune with things", yeah?

watching hbo, on my second monitor and not proof reading, sorry...

>> No.12841378

Had to give up being an incel gaymer weed smoker for a high paying job and girlfriend

I miss weed

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12841408

>>12841330
>defends big weed company lies and hippie thought
>posts retarded spongebob meme

fuck off 19 year old retard

>> No.12841410

>>12840978
Watching sponge Bob and jerking off >>>> real life shit

>> No.12841469

>>12841410
hey man if its all someone got, make the best of it. But there is a reason most people don't smoke.

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>>12840512
Thanks for taking the time to type out a paragraph that opposes your own point. That takes a special kind of brainlet.

>> No.12841744

>>12839809
Anybody who is promoting it without saying vaporize the weed does not know what they’re talking about l. Regardless, heavy usage is probably not very good for you.

>> No.12841765

>>12841663
you, um, you need to learn how to read bro.

>the same compounds are present in both strains.
>although there are small variations in amounts, this does not cause any discernibly unique effects in the user.
>So no unique, specific effect is attributable to either strain
>That means they both to the same thing, in the same way, because of the same chemicals.

Seriously OP, this is what I'm talking about. The referenced paragraph isn't in anyway complex, but because its not written in spastic talk, two of these fucktards have failed basic comprehension.

>> No.12841788

>>12840373
The con is you are spending money on weed and paraphernalia and you become a piece of shit stoner like me

>> No.12841792

>>12841765

Someone is probably going to make a youtube fortune making change out videos like they do with wine snobs.

>> No.12841798

>>12839809
cheech and chong reached their full potential because they did smoke weed

>> No.12841800

reminder that cannabis causes psychosis and schizophrenia. dumb faggot stoners, be a good wage slave and stay straight edge

>> No.12841812
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>>12839809
get prescribed Xanax and you’ll never need muh weed again. also you don’t have the lazy rutty after effects of weed

>> No.12841817

>>12840987
No u

>> No.12841819

>>12841800
schizo is based and redpilled tho. fuck the normie mentality and hang out with the aliens.

>> No.12841830

>>12841800
I think being in a sedated state, rather than a fully alert hunter gatherer alpha bro state, will be what makes you a good worker drone. It'll keep you just content enough to not rebel, and too spazzy to organise in any case.

>> No.12841864

>>12841817
that's what your gay mom said when I banged her.

>> No.12841869

>>12841819
Dude... there is no aliens.. they are demons.

>> No.12841918

>>12841005
This. It helps you sleep better as well. To be honest I'm pretty sure my boomer boss also smokes weed.

>> No.12841928

>>12841869
still better than normies.

>> No.12841984

>>12841918
Sorry to be a bummer, but smoking weed decreases your time in deep sleep. A lot of weed smokers will tell you they don't have dreams. My suspicion is that in time we will see some link between this and the rare, correlated psychosis that has happened to some poor bastards after they had smoked weed for a while.

>> No.12842018

>>12841984
I'm aware of this. But if means taking two hours longer to fall asleep vs losing some deep sleep I choose the first.

I'm not sure how much it affects deep sleep however but I do sleep extra 2-4 hours with it during stressful work periods.

>> No.12842098

>>12841005
This
I work 10 hours a day aprox
Making 80k yearly, mind you it's in the third world
Apartment and car already paid off

>> No.12842130

>>12842018
yeah, the research is old and I think its a case of "if it works for you". Like any sleep aid, be it herbal, manufactured pills or a lazer beam, its important to remember its a work around with side effects, (my feelings on the weed ones are half this board), and that there is an underlying cause for the insomnia.

>> No.12842166

>>12839809
Been smoking everyday since my country legalized it in October, but I had a terrible panick attack 2 weeks ago. I think I almost had had an heart attack, my face was becoming numb and moving weirdly and huge shoulder and chest pains. I'Ll pretty much never smoke weed again and i'm so glad.
Weed is for dumb and lazy people. Period.

>> No.12842179

>>12842098
21 times the average third world salary while high. Shit man if you were sober you'd probably be ruling the world by now. or you're larping, one or the other.

(btw: the western equivalent would be $1680000 a year, the kind of salary where you think "ima go on biz", for sure)

>> No.12842190

Well I'm strictly forbidden from alcohol due to interaction with one of my prescription meds. So somethings got to give. Weed is the replacement.

>> No.12842220

>>12842190
yup haven't had a drink for 5+ years and i just partied in my young adult life
but I built a small business and make 100k+ from home
and smoke a joint with some concentrate after workout 'every' day
im kinda a god tho

>> No.12842229

i know functioning heroine addicts pulling in +6 figures and i know people who quit smoking weed because they were going nowhere in life. it's up to you to get shit done and if getting high impacts that then it's time to consider stopping.

>> No.12842298

I actually knew two guys who semi-held it together while being bang on the smack. This is freak of nature stuff though, probably best to consider yourself as part of the "I'll be sucking dick for oxys" 99.999% rather than risk it .

>> No.12842359

>>12840334
Back office here, give me a job.

>> No.12842448

>all this fud about weed
>weed is a psychedelic
>psychedelics give you new perspectives on life you would not otherwise be able to access
>retarded normies will shill you being a mindless unstimulated drone because its unfathomable to them that a plant can open up your heart and let you see things in a new light
>cultures have been smoking this shit for centuries saying it opens your third eye

I smoke hella weed, and I can confirm that it makes you Woke af. People who don't smoke weed are spiritually deprived mostly.

>> No.12842490

>>12842448
Based and red pilled

>> No.12842525

>>12842359
get your CFA or MBA and try and jump ship to the front

>> No.12842812

>>12841765
I understood perfectly, you agree there's (small) variations in cannabinoids/terpenes between different strains, then you ruin it all by claiming it's insignificant with nothing to back it up. Show me something, I'm genuinely interested.

>> No.12842834

>>12842448
>hella
california confirmed

>> No.12842860

degenerate drug users
you'll never make it

>> No.12842902

>>12839994
it's the exact opposite for me. Weed makes me feel so damn self conscience I can't even enjoy it. Makes me wanna clean and message my mom I love her.

>> No.12842986

>>12842448
It's true that Weed makes you see things in a different light and be aware of different possibilities.

But apart from the creativity it makes me lazy and unable to do some real, productive work.

>> No.12843048

>>12842448
do you think its odd that spiritual enlightenment depends on a plant, rather than your own capacities as a living entity, presumably with a soul?

the suggestion that "cultures" believe in a "third eye" sounds like counter culture bullshit to me. An imbecile, american bastardisation of the Ayurveda doctrine of Chakras. You've just accepted some vague but dramatic sounding notions to make your activities seem more special than they really are.

Weed is a mild Psychedelic, but the suggestion that you require psychedelics to gain "perspectives" is just depressing man, are you so inept spiritually that you require consumables to feel spiritual? Like some sort of Viagra for the soul? Why would the universe function in such an arbitrary and absurd way? Again, this is just mindless hype to encourage you to consume cannabis. And really, is your mind so dull that you can mistake the sensory alterations produced by intoxication for profound experience, or is that in dulling your reason you can pretend the vague bullshit you've filled your head with is actually profound?


Most cultures which have an historic relationship with cannabis consumption are just quite primitive mate, or the consumption is limited to primitive parts of a wider culture, like the Aghori in India, and the poor fuckers think the delirium these (simple tribes) people experience is the spirits entering them, because they don't understand chemistry. You do understand whats happening and have somehow convinced yourself that it is metaphysical, which is tragic man.

>> No.12843058

>>12843048
In more sophisticated societies (lets take Egypt) the consumption of cannabis is strictly frowned upon because they know it'll just make you a lazy, slightly mad rascal. The Nepalese believe it is spiritual, but they also think you can cure diseases by getting naked and killing chickens with a spoon.

And yes mate I've done acid and DMT and other big boys psychedelic. Enlightenment comes from study, mediation and a life of experience. You can't just pop a fucking mushroom in your gob. This is American consumerism at its most grotesque.

>> No.12843143

Its cool to smoke the first year. It opens your mind, normies dont understand, they are dead.
But after that first year theres nothing more to gain for weed, unless you make music like me, in this case weed helps lots.

>> No.12843152

>>12843058
I agree

Weed is crap

I like being clear headed

Spirituality doesn’t come from hitting a bong or joint.

>> No.12843153

>>12842812
That's not what you and your stupid gif said champ!

Its insignificant because the plants have the same chemical composition in slightly different ratios. the same would be true for two cherry tomatoes.

These differences don't produce any measurable variation in effect. All the stuff you see about "sleepy, creative, mellow" strains is, guess what? Just Marketing!

Also the notion of "strains" is really just arbitrary. As made clear above, the difference in composition is between individuals; and any variation in effect you've experienced has more to do with you and your body at the time of ingestion.

I'm not your google mate, but try reading some science journals instead of leafy or high times, they are just pitchmen, trying to sell you stuff.

One last thing, you know how they say its medicine? And for some stuff it really looks like it could be of great help... but regular recreational weed smoking (and its specifically weed) causes a much higher incidence of bulla in the lung. bulla is a like a bubble in the lining (kinda) and is what makes COPD happen (mostly).

>> No.12843261

With training you can do anything on weed that you could do sober, but even better. I used to study high in college. At first it was very difficult, but eventually I would become fascinated by the material and learn better than I ever did sober.

After college I got into working out a lot. Started smoking weed and exercising all the time. Again, at first it was super hard. Eventually it heightened my mind/muscle awareness and gave me incredible workouts.

>> No.12843303

>>12843261
"bluffing is an addicts favourite game"

Now come tell me about how you been smoking since collage, but never got addicted.

>> No.12843314

>>12843303
Considering I’ve quit multiple times for extended periods, no I won’t say that. Sure I craved it like anyone craves things they like. Addicted? Not really. I haven’t smoked in 6 months.

>> No.12843592

>>12841812
yeah, really ruin your life with benzos..

weed will seem like what it is, generally harmless

>> No.12843621

I once smoked weed and became the best Tetris player. No joke

>> No.12843633

>>12840070
Unironically this, Everything in modern

>> No.12843699

>>12843048
>do you think its odd that spiritual enlightenment depends on a plant

no. look at shamanism, they drink ayahuasca in sacred ceremonies specifically with the intention on revealing and discovering more about themselves and the universe. And based on the experiences of how dramatic and intense it is, I would say it is pretty damn near impossible to achieve a true DMT state while sober.

and no I am not saying psychedelics are absolutely required to have spirituality, they are just a tool you can use to discover more about yourself.

I like the way the plant medicines makes you think, completely contradictary to normal thought. My most enlightening experiences have been on psychedelics, it truly shifts your world view and your mind cannot come back to this dimension without an astonishing amount of wonder.

i think our brains are great, and meditation helps keep you solid within yourself, but as far as gaining new insights and perspectives, releasing psilocybin into your brain elevates your consciousness to a whole other level. DMT is the most fascinating chemicle in our minds, and it is produced by the third eye. The simplest way to release it besides meditation is through external chemicles which I dont view as being inherintely good or evil, they are just substances that our minds will determine its cognitive effects and interprate as good or bad.

weed for me at least, feels like it opens up my chakras because my heart feels much more open, light, and peaceful after consumption, I truly feel elevated after I use it. You can tell me its horrible or whatever, but it gives me much more enjoyment then discompfort which is why I continue to use it.

>> No.12843729

>>12841765
Potheads don't know how to read so you will probably have to repeat thrice.

>> No.12843746

>>12843699
Based, When I really want to open my third eye which is tied to my pineal gland I do the "THOTH" mantra. want to know where the yogic greeting satanama came from, hint it comes from the god who has servants that the jews hate.

>> No.12843789

>>12840070
(((Understand))) but you unironically forget what you understood

>>12840263
Meh. I smoked everyday maybe for 2 years straight. I was ambitious as fuck during that time. Don’t byte that argument

>>12840353
This

>>12840512
He fell for the Jew meme

>>12840587
Fucking this.

>>12841830
Agreed

All I know is I smoked for 2 years straight. Then my sleep became irritable. I’ve stopped smoking and now dream vivid ass dreams. I even try to write them down as soon as I wake up. this dream spiritual real is far more eightening than getting high. Now I smoke once every three months or so.

>> No.12844150

>>12840311
>>12840469
personally, i like to smoke a fresh Green Dragon nug, or occasionally some Purple Goblin. Of course, no strain will ever top the ethereal Transsexual Kush strain of WEED

>> No.12844272

>>12843789
Not sure I clearly understand what you said. Could be me being tired. Been in a fog a lot of today.

I should have clarified that the understanding I learned is more based on my focused thought regarding the people in my life, primarily their motivations and their decision making process.

This lead me to wanting to help them more and ultimately a lot came from needing to help myself. I want to see those around me succeed and be a better person to themselves and society.

Speaking of dreams, that REM rebound is nuts. Makes for some great dreams and I agree that there's a lot to be learned in them that can't be learned from weed alone. Also have weed dreams where I feel high in them.

Missing that weed. It's truly a mind opener, but it also can be addictive.

>> No.12844335

>>12841812
>get prescribed Xanax and you’ll never need muh weed again.

benzos are horribly addictive and boast the worst recidivism rate this side of sweet ol meth

>> No.12844351

Does not directly inhibit ambitions but might lead to problems (health, getting fired etc,) which indirectly affect your career

>> No.12844383

>>12841335
fuck bro. you just blow my mind. Smoking daily now and its been a struggle to quit. Can't get my shit together when I smoke, so I smoke more to cope.

>> No.12844813

>>12839809
druggies are faggies

>> No.12844889

>>12844383
Had the same problem, smoked daily for 3 years. Now 2 months clean. That shit made me a useless piece of shit.

>> No.12844909

>>12841812

Yeah, benzo's fuck you up. Lost a couple months abusing it.

>> No.12844917

I got an anxiety disorder from weed and can't function at work anymore.

>> No.12844955

>>12840978

One needs to control it and take regular breaks. I bought 3 gr. before the New Year and finished it a couple of weeks ago. Now I not gonna buy any more until May. During that session I refreshed my vision and focused my purposes. But yep, you need to be careful with that. It's easy to fall into everlasting comfort zone of self-satisfaction. Still be far less dangerous than alcohol

>> No.12845000

>>12839809
I'd say that people with addictive personalities should be careful with that shit. I smoke or drink like 10 seperate times a year, just to have fun with friends

>> No.12845028

>>12842448

weed really helped me to understand myself. My desires and the ways human psyche works

>> No.12845064

>>12843048
>the suggestion that you require psychedelics to gain "perspectives" is just depressing man

but it's true. Your conciseness is locked in inside a really small room of your mind. Most of the processes of your psyche go outside the cell you can observe or perceive in sober state. Being high is like looking under the hood of your mind. And you can turn that knowledge about yourself to your advantage. In my example I've realised my desires and ways I can control my mood and motivation

>> No.12845085

>>12843699
>My most enlightening experiences have been on psychedelics

which one you could recommend? LSD?

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>>12843153
I didn't post a gif so if you're seeing shit move, you should probably put down the drugs or seek help.
I'll look past your logical fallacy and find your proof for you shall I? All I found that matches your claim was one forbes article. It references a study that states subjective cannabis effects are related to more than just THC and CBD. In that same experiment they found a load more cannabinoids that were previously unknown. The second link is really interesting, it quantifies some subjective effects with strains of varying thc/cbd levels, it doesn't even take anything else into account and there's data showing detectable differences.
>https://scienmag.com/thc-amounts-identical-in-most-cannabis-strains-ubc-study-finds/
>https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/5821/9d65278453f8ebff93231f49bf605ff4cacd.pdf
I'm kind of mad I got baited into googling it but hey, I learnt some things. Thc and cbd are mostly the same between strains, we still don't fully understand why strains have different subjective effects and finally, you're full of shit. I'm detecting reddit levels of arrogance, there's no karma here buddy, I think you should fuck off.

>> No.12845590

>>12843699
ok mate, chakras are fascinating, but are just a superstition. They are not real. If they were, medicine would still be based on chakras.

"shamanISM" is, again western woo. all these tribes have medicine men and priests, all of whom will have their own notions, (and policy..). The idea that this can be reduced to an "ism" is absurd. It started as academic conjecture by a guy called James Frazier, about uniform human development; that turned out to be ballocks.

Again, tribal societies think intoxicants are spiritual because they tend to think the intoxication is literally being caused by the spirits; because they don't know what chemistry is.

And I know you'll struggle to accept it, but the cannibal with a parrot stuck up his arse, dancing around with poo on a stick in the middle of the jungle isn't enlightened or wise; he's a caveperson.

post-religion western decadence left boomers in a spiritual quandary. Men need spirituality, its part of what we are. so now that Christianity had been laughed out of town; what to believe, oh boomer? So the boomers, as arrogant and stupid as we are, went out into the world, borrowing terms and misunderstanding exotic cultures and shat out this mish-mash of eastern concepts and claptrap, psuedo-metaphysical postulations, cherry picked and mutilated to serve the needs of a profoundly shallow and entertainment driven populace. Then the crafty boys wanting to make a $ or two out of this market need got involved, and now we have hippy bullshit.

>> No.12845598

>>12839827
Yeah man programmer here doing home office every week getting stoned and still getting the shit off the table. Who cares at that point. Also helps writing some nice guitar tunes or coming up with ideas for personal projects(the point where you should lay down the joint for a while and get on it.)

>> No.12845607

>>12839945
And most importantly european woman only use dry toilet paper oftentimes. One of the reasons i switched to asian girls.

>> No.12845621

>>12845590
>and now we have hippy bullshit.
Which wouldnt help them at all since hippy is oftentimes anti consumerist. Most real hippies dont put a lot of money into the markets. But apart from that you have never tried shrooms or anything in that matter so why do you speak about a topic you dont understand? Its not that they are magic its about them giving you to perceive reality in a non conceptual state the raw version of the universe so to speak. Its definitly useful for looking through this fassade of modern life.

>> No.12845652

>>12845204
Semantic Scholar and forbes! oh my god mate. You need to google better.

I assumed it was a gif, I didn't click, you got me.

OK look bro look, all organic compounds have massive amounts of variety, the woo about canbinoids? That's just advertisers counting on you, and the forbes weed guy, being shit at chemistry.

When you poll people about subjective effects, they talk all kinds of mad shit. there is no measurable difference in effect.

>some cunt will tell you he can hit a blunt and talk to god, you'd wonder the strain he smokes doesn't get more attention.

Yeah I'm coming off like a bit of cunt. I just really want people to be honest with themselves. They smoke weed to get intoxicated, and no other reason. Dressing it up as something special will let you down in the end, its just a time sink and a bad habit. You will gain nothing, you will fix nothing. It's compensation for a boring life. That's why you want it, you're bored. And it will make you fine with staying there. that's the danger.

I'm also doing reddit spacing just to be a cunt. peace to you bro, get better at chemistry!

>> No.12845736

>>12845621
'anti-consumerist' mate, yeah?

>so they don't eat, or listen to recorded music, or get dreadlocks, or buy camper vans, or tents, or spirituality books, or trips to India, or weed, or shrooms?

Anti-consumerism is a non-concept, a childs attempt at anti-capitalism*. (*boooo!).

We all live by consumption, its what being human is.

they may claim not to be in the grip of money, but unless they are shitting out their new age lifestyle, they are just being dumb bro. They may well not be covetous, but then most people aren't.
> and lots of hippies really, really actually are. It can be a mean scene, learn about the end of Haight Ashbury.

I grew shrooms at one point when I was young mate. love em. mexicana to be exact. but its just getting high. Not a mode of enlightenment. The reasons i think its absurd to claim they are such are already on this board: (its actually a grotesque form of "consumerism", the idea that you can attain things by popping this or that product in your belly; its a very american worldview, too). And, not to be a dick, I'm gonna take a punt and say I know more about eastern religions and metaphysical philosophy than you and your mates. Drugs play no part in understanding either. Sure some guys will say they can, but come on....that dude is high AF.

I'm not saying not to take shrooms, it can be a really positive, healthy experience: and is 100% not habit forming. I'm not even saying don't smoke weed. Just don't lie to yourself about the significance of either act of consumption, and be aware that if you smoke weed, you can get stuck eating snack food and watching john candy movies for a large chunk of your life.

>> No.12845786

Drugs give you once in a lifetime experiences. If you want to truly see people for the animals that they are take LSD. I felt like an alien on earth experiencing it for the first time. The way people moved and spoke, nothing but animals moving and grunting

If you want to enjoy music or sex more, smoke weed

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>>12841812
based and xanpilled

>> No.12845805

>>12839874
Jack's the bomb. Many of the super flavour haze varieties are also based on the Jack recipe (skunk-northern lights-haze), so they do have similar effects.

>>12839809
If you're doing something that doesn't require mental engangement, weed is good. If your "career potential" can be maximized by good ideas, weed can be even better IF you find the right strain for it. Jack Herer is indeed what you should be looking at in this case.

Weed is the worst for doing shit like cashier, where you have to manage being bored and sober or else you lose money. Which is probably the case with this useful idiot :

>>12840311

>> No.12845849 [DELETED] 

>>12841408
>criticises spongebob memes on 4chins of all places
>bunch of lazy strawmen and ad hominems in a 20-word post

Honestly I'd be impressed at the efficiency of badness of your arguments if you weren't such an obvious retard that.

Fuck off back to facebook

>> No.12845869

>>12841408
If you could fit a few more ad hominems, strawmen and stereotypes in these few words, I'd actually believe you aren't sub 100 IQ. Good show either way, now fuck off back to facebook

>> No.12845906

Christ just smoke heroin you fucking nerds
>feels great
>doesn't make you stupid
>chicks dig it