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1274172 No.1274172 [Reply] [Original]

Ask a girl streamer who generates $7k/mo in revenue anything.

>> No.1274175

>>1274172
Don't you think you'll earn more by directly camwhoring?

>> No.1274177

>>1274175
Maybe, but it would be more effort and socially stigmatizing. I also like playing video games.

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>>1274172
well then op, ask a girl streamer who generates $34k/mo in revenue anything.

>> No.1274205

(munches popcorn)

>> No.1274206

Are you an LLC?

>> No.1274212

>>1274172
What happens when your youth leaves you and you have developed no skills. Reworded, you age out of cam whoring and have no career.

>> No.1274213

How does it feel to know you contribute absolutely nothing to humanity?

>> No.1274215

>>1274213
She doesn't run the union, she's just part of it.

>> No.1274218

>>1274212

She can just transition to fetish and milf shit. Have a small following pay her to do things and be around/communicate with them. Also, 7k/mo is enough to put in savings and investments.

Just get a part-time job after it all falls apart and you will still live cozy.

>> No.1274228

if ur kittyplaysgames go fuck urself

>> No.1274239

>>1274212
I have a degree, marketing experience and I'm continually making business connections. I'll be fine. Why are you so angry?

>>1274213
Feels fine. I obviously provide entertainment to my viewers. And value to advertisers. Any other talk of "value" is complaining about capitalism.

>>1274228
;^)

>> No.1274241

Tits or gtfo cunt

>> No.1274245

>>1274239
>I have a degree, marketing experience and I'm continually making business connections. I'll be fine.
Actually you'll be 3-5 years behind your peers with similar backgrounds and education who follow traditional career paths and use their degrees. You'll be at a competitive disadvantage in every job interview you ever have, all other things being equal.

Typical millennial thinking: you're taking advantage of a short-term opportunity because you lack the wisdom to see the long-term picture.

>> No.1274246

>>1274239
>Any other talk of "value" is complaining about capitalism
stealing this

>> No.1274247

>>1274206
I missed this. Yes, I setup an LLC in Nevada about 9 months ago.

>> No.1274251

>>1274172

Prove that you're a girl.

>> No.1274262

>>1274245

>Typical millennial thinking: you're taking advantage of a short-term opportunity because you lack the wisdom to see the long-term picture.

The long-term picture is that you die sooner than later.
I'm pretty sure that unless she's a total moron, she can find something else to do besides camwhoring/Starbucks.

Look, I get what you're saying, but it's logical to do the video game stuff if it pays 84k a year instead of starting a "real job" at 50k. Do you really think that "traditional jobs" are bulletproof and guarantee you lifelong employment? This isn't the 50s brah.

>> No.1274265

>>1274172
>working in the media industry
>working at all

stay pleb

>> No.1274268

>>1274262
>The long-term picture is that you die sooner than later.
This is a fancy way of saying "YOLO" which is the main reason why Millennials are the worst financially-situated generation in a hundred years.

>I'm pretty sure that unless she's a total moron, she can find something else to do besides camwhoring/Starbucks.
And yet every day there are a dozen threads on this board filled with Millennials complaining about the job market and bemoaning the fact that the "Boomers" won't hire them. Make up your mind, faggot.

>but it's logical
What's logical is to take a long-term perspective and not let the lure of short-term cash derail your future. You only one go around. Put yourself behind your peers in the business world and you never catch up. Never.

Does cashing in for short-term gain make sense? Maybe, but only if OP's future earning potential is low. Because in the future they'll never be able to maintain that level of income.

Remember the story about that one twitch star who successfully made the leap the corporate success, getting the best of both worlds? Yeah, me neither.

>> No.1274271

>>1274247
>>>1274206
>I missed this. Yes, I setup an LLC in Nevada about 9 months ago.
Was there a particular reason you setup in Nevada?

>> No.1274280

>>1274177
>socially stigmatizing

Are you retarded? Whores are now the only role models for girls nowadays. You hear about that courageous girl who fucked 25 guys in the bathroom in a florida high school? Best role model for girls in a LONG time

>> No.1274281

>>1274172
Is it any work whatsoever, or are you just cashing in on being a pretty girl?

I'm actually curious because people make out profitable twitch streaming to be either sitting on your ass or spending your entire day turning games into a chore.

>> No.1274283

Can you get one of your boy toys to buy you Doom and give it to me?

>> No.1274288

>>1274172
What are your favorite games to play?

>> No.1274295

>>1274271
No income tax. Delaware also has this but my accountant told me to go with NV. I can't remember the logic to be honest. I hate dealing with taxes.

>>1274281
Both. I think of it as performance art. You have to be "on" all the time. Enjoying talking to people, enjoying playing video games even if you don't want to. So it's a chore sometimes but it's not bad at all for a job.

>>1274268
What is "long-term success" for you.. being a CEO of a major public company?

>>1274283
Sent.

>>1274288
I don't want to out myself. I think the most fun I've had with a video game is TF2 but I was younger so it's hard to tell if that's the game or just being young.

>> No.1274298

>>1274295
>LLC
>Income Tax

>> No.1274301

>>1274241

This

>> No.1274302

Benis in bagina? ;D

>> No.1274305

>>1274172
Hey I'm a guy working from home earning about $10k pm ask me anything, stupid female

>> No.1274306

>>1274295
>What is "long-term success" for you..
Not particularly relevant to this thread, to be honest. I'm not the one who put my career choices and mistakes as the topic of a thread on an anonymous public forum.

The only relevant question is what are your long-terms (if any) and what is your plan (if any) to achieve them?

I expect some bullshit reply (like you've already given) that includes some vague assumption that the "next great thing" will present itself automatically at the exact time needed, and that you current choices will have no adverse impact on your future financial status. Usually your type expects either:

1) that your current media success (if any) will continue indefinitely;

2) that you'll advance in the media industry and become a highly compensated media executive (the "white unicorn" approach); or

3) that you'll seamlessly resume a more traditional career path in the future with no repercussions from your decisions to effectively disappear from the adult world for 2-5 years.

I hate to be a wet blanket in your thread, especially since I'm sure you were hoping for positive reinforcement for your "desireable" financial situation. I'm sure you'll get some of that here. But we're not all deluded children.

>> No.1274307

>>1274306
So you aren't even capable of defining the terms you like to preach about AND you assume that everything inevitably ends in failure/exile from the business world because reasons. Silly millennial.

Here's your reply.

>> No.1274312

>>1274307
>because reasons
To be fair, I think I've been pretty explicit about the reasons why I think you're whoring your long-term potential for short-term gain. That you dismiss my points as "because reasons" says more about your state of mind than the validity of my concerns.

>Silly millennial
Another deflection tactic. Since you seem to have no articulate response to the points I made, you seek to diminish them by attack me personally. By suggesting that I'm too young to make a cogent argument, you avoid the need to address the merits of the argument itself.

Look, I get it. Your defensiveness is perfectly natural. I don't expect you to admit in this thread that you may be making tragic mistakes in the trajectory of your life, no matter how obvious it may be to an outside observer. You're likely too wrapped up in your current cocoon of media attention to have an honest perspective anyway.

But perhaps, hopefully, on a subconscious level, you'll absorb some of this.

>> No.1274327

>>1274306

One again, I see what you mean (not OP btw) and your assumptions are fairly reasonable. The thing is that nowadays, they can be applied to "traditional" jobs too. The world is changing exponentially fast, and "job stability" is a thing of the past. Sure, there might be some jobs where you have nearly-bulletproof stability, but they are the exception rather than the rule.

The days of working 40 years for the same company are dying. Are you aware of this fact?

>> No.1274334

>>1274307
uhh, he's pretty spot on. Have fun getting any job and then getting all your history brought up and all the co workers now know what you look like naked and snicker.

All the women at the job will think your a whore, which you are.

You probably won't get fired, but will be so ashamed that you eventually quit. This will happen with every job you go to that anyone can google, or theres enough dudes jacking off.

>> No.1274354

>>1274327
Yes, the employment world is changing. Loyalty (such as it ever existed) is pretty scarce these days, and both employers and employees are willing and able to make expedient changes that suit their best interests. Job hunting and hiring technology (e.g., monster.com) have only accelerated the pace.

And yet, the fundamentals still apply. Experience is still the highest regarded trait by employers, and the most valuable asset of employees. As I'm sure you know, we even see odd the odd trend of entry level positions that require experience, paradoxically.

Furthermore, with very limited exceptions, being a "content creator" or "online media personality" (or whatever euphemism you want to use for youtubers, twichers, and the like) is not recognized as "legitimate" job experience by employers. It's basically a black hole in your resume. This isn't going to change anytime soon, if ever. This has always been true of "creative" jobs, long before they became capable of being monetized on the internet.

Now if you have no other prospects in life, then maybe cashing in makes sense if you happen to be the rare case of someone who can actually make money with online content. But your shelf life is inherently very short, and even more so for a female streamer who capitalizes on their physical attributes. So if you have the intelligence and education to have a professional career (as OP implies they do) then you'd be foolish not to consider the cost of putting yourself behind your peers.

One of the smartest things I've seen posted on this board was when someone pointed out that all wealth is relative. It's not about what you have; it's about what you have compared to others. Sometime keeping pace is actually winning, because falling behind is most certainly losing.

>> No.1274377

>>1274172
Do you take advantage of the fact you're a woman? For example, low cut tops, acting flirty, etc.

>> No.1274388

You can't generate 7k in a month streaming unless you are famous, because you need tons of traffic for that. OP is bullshitting.

>> No.1274479

Can you post your feet? :3

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No proof no post.

>> No.1274523

>>1274172
How does it feel to have to pay 30% of that 7k in taxes, so you're actually only taking home ~$55k?

How does it feel to know that once aging shrivels you, and your attractiveness dries up/you're no longer "hot" to 13 year old boys, you're going to be 5+ years behind any of your peers in their careers?

How does it feel to know that you're getting paid basically to be masturbation fodder for low functioning teenage boys and creepy old men?

How does it feel to know that finding a long term relationship is going to be a struggle (because most normal guys can't handle your self sabotaging career choice)?

>> No.1274527

>>1274523
I've been the most critical person in this thread, but at least I kept my comments related to matters of business and finance.

You, on the other hand, are a massive faggot and a pathetic neckbeard. Your kind isn't wanted on this board.

>> No.1274530

>>1274527
Truth hurts huh?

>> No.1274532

you can tell which posters aren't getting laid by the visceral hatred they share for this chick. guys, humans adapt and find new wells as old ones dry up.

DID YOU KNOW YOU'LL BE BEHIND? EVEN THOUGH YOU MAKE MORE THAN ME NOW? I'LL NEVER GET FIRED OR HAVE ANYTHING BAD HAPPEN TO ME. I'M ON THE RIGHT TRACK GUYS I SWEAR TO GOD

jesus fucking christ

>> No.1274534

>>1274530
Truth? I have no way of knowing if any of things he said are true or not. I do know that he's making assumptions about OP that aren't present in the thread, and that his post has nothing to do with the topic of this board.

Stop being a faggot.

>> No.1274539

>>1274532
I make 100k+. Don't care if you believe me. I just think it's delusional to believe that you're not fucking your long term career choices by becoming an attention wore on the Internet for cash.

She's not doing anything unique or marketable, and she's not an expert in any game, or she would have sold herself as something other than a girl who plays video games for cash.

If she wants to succeed in the field, she either needs to build content that doesn't depend on her looks for popularity, or she needs to become a professional caster in a high dollar game. Even then, there's no long term guarantee until you're making enough money to get traditional media outlets interested. For every pewdie pie there's a hundred "chocolate rain" guys.

>> No.1274541

>>1274218
I've doing financial consulting post 2008 for a local bank and the sad thing is most don't save nor are they willing to go back to a lower standing in living condition.

>> No.1274674

How much do you spend on starbux per month

>> No.1274685

>>1274177
>socially stigmatizing


What? Are you stunted.

The old virtues are gone, whoring it up is now the new trendy thing to do. Even better if you did some interracial action.

>> No.1274693

Holy shit most of the responses in this thread are gay af lmao. OP get yours. Get it while you can. Making $84k a year live streaming? Whaaaat. Handle that. Put some to the side for a rainy day. Drop some in a vanaurd index fund. Pop some in an aggressive stock portfolio. Allocate the rest towards a business venture.

Don't listen to the meme of "you don't want to be behind your peers as they work on long term careers". I am pretty sure your peers can't make over $80k a year by playing video games (or they would be). Milk this shit until it runs dry. You're still young and you have plenty of time to worry about wageslaving.

Get your paper booboo.
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAE1Z99uXGw

>> No.1274725 [DELETED] 

>>1274693
>2016
>taking financial advice from some who says "gay af lmao"
>taking financial advice from some who uses the term "wage slaving" unironically
>taking financial advice from some who finds life wisdom in rap songs
>taking financial advice from an obvious neckbeard poorfag

>> No.1274728

>>1274693
>2016
>taking financial advice from someone who says "gay af lmao"
>taking financial advice from someone who uses the term "wage slaving" unironically
>taking financial advice from someone who finds life wisdom in rap songs
>taking financial advice from an obvious neckbeard poorfag

>> No.1274745

>>1274212
>>1274245
>>1274265
>>1274268
>>1274306
>>1274334
>>1274388
>>1274539

so much jealousy and anger. relax anons

>> No.1274759

how do you feel about investing in cigarettes?

>> No.1274773

Why are you posting on muh board? Why are you not on Plebbit?

>> No.1274778

>>1274745
>white knighting on /biz/
I honestly cannot imagine anything more pathetic. Seriously.

>> No.1274780

So many people falling for a bait thread.

No wonder the crypto shills come here to harvest fools.

>> No.1274784

>>1274728
>2016
>being this gay af
Kek

>> No.1274790

>>1274780

Buy ETH.

>> No.1274852

>>1274539
>Don't care if you believe me.
That's good cause we don't. Youre a pathetic loser and you always will be.

>> No.1274874

>>1274172
ask someone who makes $10k/mo in revenue from cloud mining anything

https://hashocean.com/?rid=470464

>> No.1274875

lol at the amount of salty neckbeard virgins itt

>> No.1274880

>>1274172

did the Jews play any part in 9/11, and how does that effect your financial relationship with youtube?

>> No.1274881

>>1274172
What games do you play and do the twitch staff usually act retarded as they seem to be?

>> No.1274913

>>1274268
/thread
now all you fuck off out of this thread already
and OP show your tits

>> No.1274921

>>1274307
Yeah, I do not really understand the meaning of this reply but anon is exactly right with his comment.

The fact that your reaction is so poor makes me think that your future is even less golden than I already think it is going to be.

I always wondered what would happen with al those youtube stars, no valuable skillset nor experience.

I think this thread answered that question quite truthfully.

Conclusion: better prepare yourself on getting a real job, because get rich quick and YOLO does not work in the grown-up world.

>> No.1274928

>>1274852
Shut up idiot and listen to truth

>> No.1274930

>>1274913
>/threading a retarded post
No.

>> No.1274933

>>1274295
You don't pay tax?

>> No.1274936

>>1274728
>Implying you wouldn't do the same thing if you were capable of it

Who the fuck wouldn't play videogames for so much money? Are you retarded?

Oh right forgot everyone on /biz/ is either a trust fund billionaire inheriting millions from their relatives dying every month or a VP of some medium firm earning a modest $800k/yr

>> No.1274946

>>1274693
>get your paper booboo
>my god...pls leave...I mean I actually feel sorry for OP that a monster like you is defending her

>>1274936
No, that is not the conclusion. Playing games for so much money is awesome, I would murder people to be able to do that.

However, it is not long-term, and you would be a fool to think otherwise.

So, all fine and dandy, but this should be a side project and you should still focus on getting a solid job.

That is the main idea.

>> No.1274959

>>1274946
>However, it is not long-term, and you would be a fool to think otherwise.
>So, all fine and dandy, but this should be a side project and you should still focus on getting a solid job.

Who said it was, dumbass?

She clearly said she has a degree and a career plan

The autists in this thread are just clinging to whatever they can to say "W-whore... s-stop making almost twice the median salary in the US playing videogames... i-i don't like it..."

>> No.1274961

>>1274354

>This has always been true of "creative" jobs, long before they became capable of being monetized on the internet.

Out of curiosity and desire for knowledge, can you please provide examples of "creative jobs" before the Internet era (say, in the 80's)? I mean, besides being a writer which is obvious.
How old are you, by the way?

Regarding the rest of your post, what you said is true. However, you take for granted that OP's life goal is to succeed in her career and make as much money as possible. While this is a sensible assumption, given that this goal is the main goal of the majority of the population, it doesn't necessarily mean that OP's hapiness revolves around having a "real career" and climbing the ladder. Maybe she just wants to make fast bucks, save and invest most of it, then work part-time as a cashier afterwards to pay for her basic needs. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. Different strokes for different folks.


Also, you seem to deny that nowadays, many many people start school and/or careers really late (in their thirties and even fourties), and while they are often faced with a competitive disadvantage over their younger peers, they are still able to get employed and succeed.
You make it seem like it's a matter of life or death, when it's not.

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>>1274946
>being this offended by a Kat Williams quote
Lmao @ your life

>> No.1274971

>>1274959
>I have a degree, marketing experience and I'm continually making business connections.

Yes, just like every Syrian refugee has a degree.

>> No.1274985

>>1274971
What?

What does that even mean? Why are you so mad that a girl is making more money than you do(and probably will) as well as almost everyone on this board playing videogames that you need to try to somehow bring her down to your level?

Good for her man, you don't need to constantly fight people to feel better, you know.

>> No.1275029

>>1274961
>it doesn't necessarily mean that OP's hapiness revolves around having a "real career" and climbing the ladder. Maybe she just wants to make fast bucks, save and invest most of it, then work part-time as a cashier afterwards to pay for her basic needs.
It's pretty clear OP is interested in financial success, and not just "happiness" or "contentment." You don't make a thread bragging about your income unless you're keeping score.

As for cashing in now and coasting, it's not going to work. There's no chance OP can make enough now to have a retirement with the same standard of living that she's currently experiencing. People drastically under-estimate the amount of money needed to maintain a standard of living when their income stops or drops dramatically. This is exacerbated by the extended length of time such a fund would have to survive. OP would need to earn MANY multiples of her claimed income to actually build a sustainable reserve that could last a lifetime. And that's assuming no serious financial setbacks and perfect financial discipline for a lifetime. That's just not realistic.

Furthermore, people who go from high incomes to low incomes traditionally have serious adjustment issues. Even retirees, who have a lifetime to prepare for the change in their financial situation, struggle with the transition. A 20-something kid is going to have major problems, further jeopardizing any long-term plans.

>while they are often faced with a competitive disadvantage over their younger peers
That's what I've been saying all along. I never said it was a death sentence or that OP was foreclosing the possibility of future financial success and advancement. Just that she was making things much harder on herself - that there is a price to her decision to pursue a nontraditional job at the time her peers are building their careers.

Decisions have consequences, and OP has shown that she is blind to the consequences of her decisions. That's just stupid.

>> No.1275043

>>1275029
You seem jelly and mad desu. It's not impossible at all to get some job in the media or marketing or one of the companies she would deal with in her day to day.

And there's the not insignificant chance she could scale to make a lot more.

So what's the disadvantage? Her experience and connections would be an advantage in any job.

>> No.1275058

>>1275029
Tl;dr
You're way overthinking this, bro. I make as much as OP selling shit on ebay. Some people just don't give a fuck about careers lol. You're an idiot if you think OP should sacrifice $90k/year just because she won't have as much experience if she ever wants to look for a job.

>> No.1275072

>>1275043
>You seem jelly and mad
Why? Because I make well-considered and well-explained points? Or because you disagree with me? Or because you want to white knight some claimed girl on the internet?

Do you know how stupid you sound when you can't even articulate a critique?

>It's not impossible at all to get some job in the media or marketing or one of the companies she would deal with in her day to day
Yeah, all those twitch interns are raking in the bucks. And I'm sure Google has scores of high-paying jobs on standby for minor Youtube celebrities. Get real.

>And there's the not insignificant chance she could scale to make a lot more
But the chances are insignificant. Literally. Statistically insignificant. We're talking lottery odds here. We don't call that sound financial planning. That's called gambling with your future.

Losers like you are free to gamble with their futures because -- let's face it -- you don't much to lose. No offense, but you weren't going anywhere anyway. But OP claims to have a degree and claims to have designs on a more traditional career when the easy money inevitably dries up. And yet she thinks there's no consequences of leaving the adult world for 3-5 years? That's called denial.

>>1275058
Generating $7K/month revenue in a sales capacity is meaningless since you have to consider your cost of goods sold and your overhead. Any adult would know this.

You must be 18 to post on this board. Please come back then.

>> No.1275075

>>1275072
>implying I wasnt talking about profit
That other guy is right. You are extra salty.

>> No.1275078

>>1275072
You seem extremely buttblasted that a girl is making more than you are. For playing videogames, a common leisurely activity.

>> No.1275103

>>1275075
>>1275078
>things said by people too stupid to participate in an intelligent conversation

And for the record, I am most decidedly not jealous of OP's financial situation. Being a professional internet streamer is actually pretty difficult. Even the females who cash in on their physical attributes have to work hard to make it a sustained income stream. Either way, you have to deal carefully with the NEETs, virgins, and trolls that fill twitch and youtube. Only neckbeards like you guys think it's as easy as "play games; get money."

I'm sure for guys like you, OP's situation would be very enviable. As I already said above, someone with meager future financial prospects would be lucky to be in OP's shoes. (I guess reading isn't among your core skills.)

But OP made the claim that she'd be able to switch seamlessly to a traditional career when the internet money dries up (as it inevitably will). That's deluded, for the reasons I explained.

Perhaps instead of being obsessed with me or obsessed with OP, you guys could actually discuss the topic of the thread? Because you both sound like giant white knight faggot shitposters.

>> No.1275107

>>1275103
>implying we are the ones obsessed with OP
You pretty much wrote her a novel kek.

>you guys think it's as easy as "play games; get money."
It is, retard.

>> No.1275112

>>1275103
Breh you're the one writing out 4 paragraphs analyzing OP and making all these retarded conclusions.

>Only neckbeards like you guys think it's as easy as "play games; get money."

It IS relatively easy though.

There is people working in factories in the US doing hard phyiscal labor for 8+ hours a day and they're making 1/3rd - 1/4th of what OP is making per year, for sitting in her house giggling with horny boys on twitch and playing videogames.

There is people who finish Accounting degrees(studying like crazy a bunch of boring shit) just to work 50-60 hrs/week and make about, or usually UNDER what OP makes per year playing videogames.

Which of those three is harder to do?


>But OP made the claim that she'd be able to switch seamlessly to a traditional career when the internet money dries up (as it inevitably will). That's deluded, for the reasons I explained

It's not insanely difficult. People have started careers later. Especially something like marketing wouldn't be impeded on by being a videogayme streamer.

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So many angry NEETs throwing shade in an obvious bait thread..

>>1274239
>Any other talk of "value" is complaining about capitalism.

10/10 well played

>> No.1275146

>girl browsing /biz/
1/10

>> No.1275152

>>1274172
teach me how to mak money or give me money pls :c

>> No.1275155

>>1275029

Thank you for your reply. It's a valid perspective.
Can you please answer my other question:

>Out of curiosity and desire for knowledge, can you please provide examples of "creative jobs" before the Internet era (say, in the 80's)? I mean, besides being a writer which is obvious.
How old are you, by the way?

Thanks

>> No.1275245

>>1275155
The context of my statement was creative jobs that employers look at and essentially give no credit for. So they stand as a black hole in your resume. I think it's pretty obvious this would include almost any creative enterprise that someone tried in a professional capacity: e.g., artist, performer, writer.

It's not that these are inherently meritless undertakings; but rather that they are viewed as having little to no translatable value in a more traditional employment scenario. Same is true of any other "holes" in your resume. Travelled the world for 2 years? Liability. Taught English to starving African children? Liability. Dropped out to care for your sick mother? Liability.

No one said it was fair. Right or wrong, these things are often perceived as indicating someone who is perhaps a bit flighty, unfocused, unstructured (and therefore unreliable, unmotivated, etc.). That's just how most employers are going to view things (whether they admit it or not). I'm sure exceptions will exist, especially if the employer or the position is creative itself. But in most situations, this is just the reality.

It would be nice if we lived in world where everyone had the luxury to "chase their dreams" or "proceed at their own pace." But its fantasy, pure and simple. Late starters are almost always at a disadvantage. Maybe its possible to overcome that disadvantage; maybe not. But when its a self-inflicted disadvantage, like OP, then you have to be smart and do the long-term math.

>> No.1275250

>>1275245
So you're 21 or 22?

>> No.1275253

>>1274971
Just like you make $100k+

>> No.1275261

>>1275250
I'm not sure the relevance of my age. Do my argument become more or less sound if I'm older or younger? I wasn't aware that logic or common sense were age dependant.

>> No.1275273

>>1275261
You're talking about the value of experience when you have none.

>> No.1275290

>>1275273
Adults can have a conversation about things whether they have first-hand experience with them or not. I can discuss the Japanese economy even though I've never been to Japan, and I can discuss monetary policy even though I'm not on the Federal Reserve Board. The benefits of having a facile mind is that knowledge and wisdom aren't limited by your experience.

If you have the faculties of a child, then you think like a child and make mistakes like a child. Grow the fuck up.

>> No.1275298

Was it your intentions to make it big as a streamer, or were you one of the originals that just stumbled into it?

How hard would it be to get into the market now? I'm thinking about providing the tech set up and pimping my sisters out on twitch.

>> No.1275310

>>1275290
>a kid telling someone to grow up
That's silly. I like you.

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>>1274295

>makes money from thirsty basement dwellers for playing video games

>doesn't even pay tax

>> No.1275533

>>1274172

What's so funny about this, is that the neckbeards look at this as an opportunity to become enraged at women for doing something "stupid" or "for attention".

But men are the stupid ones here. Not me specifically, but other men. The kind of men who will watch a girl play vidya and give them money.

WE HAVE OURSELVES TO BLAME.

>> No.1275539

>>1275290
So you're 20?

>> No.1275612

>>1275533

It's the """neckbeards""" who watch these broads and give them money because pretty.

The men are the ones who call bullshit.

>> No.1275619

>>1274388
Why hasn't this been addressed? This seems like a completely legitimate claim based on all the readily available data on average earnings for streamers.

>> No.1275623

>>1275612

well yeah.

But my point is that fuckin idiot men are to blame for the entitled whores of earth.

Nothing wrong with whores. Whores are the best. It's an entitled whore that's a real troublemaker.

>> No.1275628

Shoeonhead?

>> No.1275644

>>1275619
Streamers don't make all their money off of twitch ads. Usually they have a ton of streams.

>> No.1275846

>>1275628

June streams games?

>> No.1275974

>>1274693

You do boo-boo. You do you

>> No.1276002

>>1274172
>gurl
desu senpai senpai
GET IN THIS THREAD NOW

>> No.1276132

>>1274295

I call bullshit. NV doesn't have a state tax but your still susceptible to fed income tax. I'm doubtful you'd be able to prove you spend 1.3x your income as itemized deductions to make you tax exempt.

It also required you to provide proof of residency, which means you live/have a physical address in nevada.

>tl;dr? she's a fraud, committing fraud.

Good thing prostitution is legal in NV cause i can't wait till the franchise tax boards audits your ass.

>> No.1276146

>>1275253
That's me you dolt.

>> No.1276147

How anyone can say Capitalism is metiracratic and is a good way to distribute resources needs only look at the modern camwhore.

They can make a sizable living without ever doing anything productive. They are, in a way, a monopoly, because there is only one of that grl and the reject who give her money cannot get her anywhere else.

>> No.1276153

>>1274970
>quoting kat williams, aka the little nigga who got beat up by an 8th grader

Lol gaayyyyyy

>> No.1276156

>>1274172
if true, i applaud you for getting money from the white knights who donate to you.. Making money off retards is the noblest activity of mankind. God speed

>> No.1276173

>>1275250
Lol
>I can't fault his logic, so I'll goad him about his age

I'm almost 30, been working white collar technology jobs since I was 19. The guy you're responding to is 100% correct. No one takes twitch streaming seriously, just like no one takes YouTube content generators seriously outside a handful of movie studios.

OP is about to get fucked by the long capitalist dong once she's no longer attractive enough to garner an audience. She's going to be 28 with no marketable skills, an expensive lifestyle to maintain, and she'll be 5 years behind her average peer.

If she'd worked a traditional job and honed a skill, she could be making more money anyway. 100k is about average for a competent white collar employee who is independent and self directed, once they've built a skill set worth paying for.

What do I know, though, I'm just a jelly neckbeard right? I mean if you can't attack the logic, ad hom is always an option.

>> No.1276183

>>1275623

https://www.quantcast.com/twitch.tv#demographicsCard

The twitch.tv audience is overwhelmingly young (<25) males with no college degree, aka the dumbest segment of the population/most "Muh dick". Which is super weird because it's also overwhelmingly Asian. I get that video games are a very Asian pastime but what Asian doesn't get a degree? Unless they just aren't old enough to have gotten one yet.

>> No.1276184

>>1274172

Is there anything special you are saving some money for?

>> No.1276191

>>1274172
I'm not a girl, but have long hair. If I figured out how to do makeup and speak in a girly voice, do you think I could stream and make money?

>> No.1276192

>>1274204
>$7k/mo in revenue anything.
>>1274213

I wonder how many hard working
blue collar workers are blissfully unaware of this, and all the better off for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eR0DyDg7wQ

>> No.1276430

>>1276173
>I fell for the wage cuck meme and have now successfully wasted my 20s being a slave for someone else, building equity in their business for them in exchange for a very small piece of the pie, and I am bitter about it.

Translated for y'all.

>> No.1276495

>>1274268
millennials are poorly-situated financially because the system is fucked, kys you pretentious faggot

>> No.1276502

>>1274306
you sound like a faggot dude

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>>1274268
>What's logical is to take a long-term perspective and not let the lure of short-term cash derail your future. You only one go around. Put yourself behind your peers in the business world and you never catch up. Never.

Top kek. I'm 28, with a degree, and have never had a wage cuck job. AMA. Oh by the way, I own my own software company. Will I ever catch up!?

>> No.1276522

>>1276502
>>1276495

Samefagging this hard.

Kys.

But first give someone all your trumpcoins.

>> No.1276535

>>1275072
you're fucking autistic dude

>> No.1276802

>>1276507
Y-y-youre behind your peers! They'll all make fun of you! You'll never have a real job! Enjoy it while it lasts, haha!

>> No.1278149

>>1275504
pays federal not state which just means you live in a shit state.

>> No.1278155

>>1276192
If I streamed because I don't and I somehow made a million dollars a year off streaming video games, my dad would still think I'm a total loser because my "career choice" in his eyes is not productive towards society.

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>Ask a girl streamer who generates $7k/mo in revenue and is committing tax evasion anything.

>> No.1278401

So much jelly itt

>> No.1278498

this whole thread is cancerous. both sides

>> No.1278610

>>1278498
Way to contribute more to that cancer you cock guzzler

>> No.1278630

>>1275612
>The men are the ones who call bullshit.

Wrong. You're not a man, you're a little bitch. I'm a moan. I work a real man job. I have a hot wife. You're nothing. You're a weak little pussy I could spit on and you wouldnt do anything about it.

>> No.1278672

>>1278630
>I'm a moan.
kek. You sound very moanly.

>> No.1278713

>>1276430
Totally, yep. Totally traded away my time & my future for wagecuckery.

Again, you know nothing about me, and are assuming pretty fucking hard. I have ~$2k/mo in passive income through real estate, and while I generate more value than I get paid for at my day job, I also don't have to take my work home with me (like most IT people), only have a 40-hour week, get paid 6 figures, have a corner office with a decent view of downtown, and best of all, I actually enjoy going to work. I mean, I'm posting on an ivory scroll rune board during the work day ffs, and it's actually considered a productive use of my time by my bosses! They appreciate my unique research & insight.

Guess I'm just a sad excuse for a human being, doomed to a lifetime of stable income, low-stress work, sliding into a stress-free retirement at 40 financed by passive income through real estate; woe is me.

>> No.1278745

>>1274306
If I were interviewing someone who had been a video game streamer for a period of a few years, I would ask them why they chose that profession. If their answer was "I made over $70K per year and worked my own hours and didn't even have a morning commute", I would probably be fine with that. I'd certainly like it better than someone working at a starbucks or fast food joint, since starting a twitch channel and starting your own LLC and making way more money than the average person in their demographic shows some entrepreneurial spirit.

>> No.1278750

>>1278247
Tons of people/small business incorporate out of state for tax reasons. Hell, the state of Delaware basically staked their entire economic model on the concept.

>> No.1278763

>>1278745
I'm not sure why you need to post the obvious, It's clearly better than working in fast food or not working at all. That's a complete strawman.

We talking about someone who claims to have a degree and claims to have plans to enter the professional world.

>>1278750
You have to have a physical presence in the state to establish residency (personal or corporate) in order to fall under the state's tax laws. If she's incorporated in some random state as to which she has no connection, its tax fraud (unless she's actually also paying in her state of residency). Maybe she'll get away it; maybe not.

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>>1278713

>Marriage

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>>1278763
Ya you pay for a PO box and that's it. I think in NM you pay for someone to sign for your mail too and that's all the presence required by law. Its not fraud, You're just misinformed.
All in all its like $200 a year for the service if memory serves. Tons of virtual offices and corporate receivers have an easy gig on the side.

Then you file as foreign corporation in your home state and that's that.

but she's doing business on the internet so it doesn't trucking matter unless her goods cross state lines, but since there is nothing physical no goods move. Her corporate accountants use nevada law and her personal uses her home state if she earns a salary which is doubtful, if she does it likely under cap gains from a partnership.

strive away from ignorance anon.

>> No.1278832

>>1278826
You're 100% wrong. I'm not saying she won't get away with it, but it's still tax fraud.

Laws here in America are not the same as China. Stick to what you know.

>> No.1278836

>>1278826
>cap gains from a partnership
Kek. Almost missed this. Too funny kid. You really are retarded.

>> No.1278871

>>1274334

Why does she have to take a wage slave job when she retires from this?

That makes no sense, the cards are literally in her favor as long as she doesn't do anything controversial by tumblr's standards.

A lot of you guys are so uncreative, else your jealousy is just shrouding your reasoning.

>> No.1278907

>>1275112

Dont work harder work smareter

>> No.1278911

>>1276173

>$100k average

Bullshit unless youre in NYC or san fran

>> No.1278912

What's your tech set up and how much did it cost?

>> No.1278918

>>1278713

>something something image board meme

When will this die?

>> No.1278920

>>1278912
I was thinking of starting my own gaming channel
My first video title would be called "I was born with a dick for a thumb"

Then I would promptly ridicule my viewers for clicking such obvious bait and precede to play hours of superman 64.

I think they'll love it.

>> No.1278998

>>1276132
LLCs do not pay income tax. They are passthrough entities. Their owners pay income tax based on the income passed through to them, so OP would pay personal income tax on the income allocated to her from the LLC based on her state of residence, but there would be no income tax at the business level regardless of what state it is incorporated in.

>> No.1279015

>>1275072

I think both the OP and poster here are on the opposite sides of the spectrum and I think reality falls somewhere in between them.

OP is not going to easily walk into some company with a smile on her face and job ready to go.

But OP is also not likely to become a deadbeat after the streaming career.

OP is pretty aware that her situation is likely to not last in the long run and has at least the awareness that she should be building some skills or connections along the side. There's a lot more work to those two than it sounds so it will not be a cakewalk but I don't think she's going to be screwed

Also it helps if OP isn't blowing their cash but who knows

It's tough trying to make your resume look valuable though when you take private ventures, I can relate. You want to prove that the experience stated is worth while to the employer but you also don't want to stroke or your cock too much or bullshit the employer on certain things. HR can also use your success as a reason to not hire you, it can be hard to sell to a company that you're ready to commit 5+ years (you don't have to but that's what they'd like to hear)

Good luck OP and to anyone else out there doing their own thing

>> No.1279021

>>1274745

Yeah because some of us have to bust our ass to actually just get by in life. We don't get a Pussy Pass.

>> No.1279089

>>1278630

Fellow moan here. I like black snakes.

>> No.1279102

>$7k/month
>/biz/ literally losing their shit

Why are there so many jealous unemployed losers on this board? Go out there and get your own money.

>> No.1279110

Do you have to pay taxes on any of that?

>> No.1279218

>>1279021
>wwhhhhaaaaaaa I'm an oppressed white man living in the easiest time to be alive

>> No.1279272

>>1274172
Can girls that aren't white make money doing this? I want to get serious about it but not sure if I'll have the same pull.

>> No.1279285

>>1279272
maybe if you're asian

>> No.1279295

>>1279285
nope

>> No.1279341

>>1278713
>Guess I'm just a sad excuse for a human being, doomed to a lifetime of stable income, low-stress work, sliding into a stress-free retirement at 40 financed by passive income through real estate; woe is me.

The funny thing is, you wouldn't have even responded to that post if this wasn't true.

>> No.1279532

This thread shouldn't have gone farther than "post proof."

>> No.1279535

>>1279272

Post a picture of your breasts and I'll let you know.

>> No.1279582

>>1279218

Some of us have to work and don't get paid for being attractive, sweety.

>> No.1279591

>>1274172
Okay, I'll bite.

What sets you apart from other girl streamers?

>> No.1279604

>>1274172
Even if this is bait or not, there's only thing I can say to this.

I hate life and want to kill myself.

>> No.1281146

>>1274172
ok.

>> No.1281809

>>1274213
Absolutely, head-over-heels, earth-shatteringly, butt-blastedingly jealous.

:^)

>> No.1281823

>>1279604
What are you gonna do? Let the paranoia haunt you? Or lift your head up and keep moving?

Try to act like you're not jealous, angry, or afraid? Or embrace your jealousy, anger and fear and let it motivate you?

She only makes 84k/y. I want you to make 300k/y just to make her money look like a pittance.

>> No.1281842

>>1278832
I'm sorry you're not familiar with the concept of agency.

How are 90% of corporations filed in delaware anon? yet the IRS doesn't care.

>> No.1281849

>>1281842
Corporations file in Delaware because Delaware has a set of pro-business corporate statutes, pro-business governing law, and pro-business courts. Those that want to take advantage of the tax laws actually establish a physical presence in the state, like most of the major credit card companies and many insurance underwriters.

Tax laws in the US are not the same as China. Please stick to anime or other topics you might understand.

>> No.1282549

>>1279535
They're 42DD.. But I'm mulatto :p

>> No.1282563

>>1281823
I want to make 500 dollars passive income so I can live life as a neet.

:(

>> No.1282568

>>1279341
I'm not sure I follow. Are you implying that early retirement is a bad thing?

>> No.1282569

>>1274175
twitch streamers actually make more

>> No.1282576

>>1278911
Nah Minneapolis, but I work for an f500. I am an expert in my field though, and I'm actually probably slightly underpaid. I have a good work life balance though and plenty of free time to pursue my passions, so I'm basically just coasting until I hit $1mm in liquid assets and I have a few rentals paid off. Then I'll live off my rental income, raise a family, and eventually move to the Carolinas I think.

>> No.1283231

>>1274312
Holy fuck this is one of the most passive aggressive posts I've ever read

Whats ur twitter for the lulz