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>Game
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Password: merchant

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http://stocktwits.com/

>Joke of the Day
Your janitor application.

>> No.126976

Sell CANV at market open, keep for a few minutes and see where it goes, or hold even longer?

>> No.126989

damn nigga my dgaz is rapping me hard today lol.. wipe is gonna loose

>> No.127014

ETF sounds like its going to rise abonch

>> No.127017

>>126989
bks guy did u buy NQ? buy NQ

>> No.127030

>>126989
>following wipe
not even once

>> No.127045

>>126976
>implying you can buy and sell CANV within minutes
I am not falling for that shit again. It wasted most of my time friday due to the 15 min delay and it kept rising until the last hour or so.

>> No.127060

>>127045
CANV got me into the top 10. Made mad money from it.

>> No.127072

>>127060
>gloating about OTC wins

You could lose just as hard. Once something is pumped it is time to move to the next penny

>> No.127077

>>127045

always buy and sell with limit, never with market price, the delays will kill you

>> No.127114
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>>127060
CANV got me out of the top 10 for most of the day and then when I finally did a buy back I ended up where I was before really. It managed to cover my losses on the stocks I was holding, but wasn't worth the time and was way too much of a risk.

>>127077
I tried, but the limits didn't go through so I was stuck with manual trades on it.

>> No.127151
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127151

1. hedge fund managers
2. Wall Street’s top strategists
3. technical analysts
4. day-traders
5. swing-traders
6. newsletter writers and book authors
7. journalists
8. financial advisors
9. your dentist
10. leading finance professors
11. famous economists
12. bloggers and columnists
13. tweeters
14. horses who count with their hooves
15. astrologers
16. value investors
17. investment clubs
18. message board aficionados
19. TV hosts
20. mutual fund managers
21. sell-side analysts
22. institutions, pensions and endowments
23. /biz/
24. me
25. you

>> No.127190

>>127151
So, Palm readers are ok?
Putting it all on CONN

>> No.127194

>>127151
Is it ordered by degree of incompetence?

>> No.127199

>>127151
1. A monkey with darts

>> No.127207

>>127199
Good thing I didn't throw away dart board.

>> No.127219

>>127199

my dartboard is just a circle with "SHORT PRAN" written on it

>> No.127225

>Buy FB near $66 last Thursday in June option calls
>Its $69

What do I do with all these gains.

>> No.127230

I've been on my houseboat for the weekend, moved up into 10th spot so pretty happy.

But now I still have my sea legs back on land and everything is spinning/rocking still.

Just waiting for the open.

>> No.127234

>>127225
Invest in Microsoft obviously.

>> No.127237

>>127225
I am still surprised it went up after the stupid $19bn whatsapp buy.

>> No.127266

why are the day orders i did on friday still active?

>> No.127271

>>127266

Not filled before close? did you do it in time?

>> No.127300

>>127237
zuckerberg is a genius, don't doubt him and just go with the flow

>> No.127308

I'd short ISIS and ESC if I were you guys.

>> No.127312

Happy Monday, everyone.
What the fuck is with the IDs?

>> No.127322

>>127312
Shills be gone

>> No.127326

>>127308
>shorting stocks hugely gap up
why? whats the thesis on the short

>> No.127349

>>127326

As far as I can tell the ISIS markup is just from them completing a second stage in a medication.

>> No.127361

>>127349

It's up $.90 in pre-market trade

>> No.127372

>>127030
nahh wipe went full retard and shorted dgaz, i took the opposite move knowing shorting dgaz was sure to get massive gainz

>> No.127382

>>127372
Actually I don't remember what I did. Didn't short DGAZ though.

>> No.127387

>>127382
yeah that's what i am saying, you are about to make shitload of cash brother. It's over for you.

>> No.127390

>>127387
shit nm, dgaz just rallied in the last 30 minutes... fudge, no worries it will drop again

>> No.127396
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How does a company keep losin so much money?

>> No.127412

>>127396
I believe there is still a serious steel glut in NE asia form the tsunami and china overcapacity. it should clear up soon though china is limiting emissions and trying to transition more into recycling.

The company has good looking valuations but that's partly because asians can never be trusted with fiances so there is some doubt built i assuming there is accounting fraud.

>> No.127422

wtf I shorted the shit out of Sony but they're actually doing okay. Goddamn I wish a terrorist would attack Sony's headquarters or something.

>> No.127425

So I bought the dip for GRPN and I'm just sitting here praying it goes up today because I can't be assed waiting any longer. Market gibs money pls

>> No.127443

>>127425
I had a limit order to buy at $8 on friday, but it seems it never went through. Tempted to buy at market open and see if it rises.

>> No.127444

sugar, coffee and oats futures

call it the long breakfast play

>> No.127447

>>127387
We have IDs now?


That would have been useful Saturday when I had that car thread

>> No.127456

>>127443
Don't get your hopes up. I spent 600 bucks on it, so if it goes up I can get a coffee.

>> No.127459

>>127425
>GRPN
buying at the first sign of trouble

>>127422
shorting at the moment everyone thinks it will collapse

never ceases to amaze me. Everything is backwards from how ti should be. You realize you are shorting a company at half book value and 1/5 price of sales and buying a company at 7x price to book and twice sales. The market is desperately trying to correct this disparity but short term flippers like you guys are standing in the way of progress you need to switch places.

>> No.127461

>>127390
lol at that gap down on Nat Gas

>> No.127468

>>127461
I'm telling you it's going to 2.15 before the reversal. The magic of inverse etfs

>> No.127480

so wipe are you going to start a new marketwatch account where you actually try or are we all just going to accept you are literally the worst trader on /biz/?

>> No.127481

>>127447
kek, I was the guy that was accused of being you samefagging.

>>127425
I was watching GRPN and the lowest it went was $8.03, I would buy in on open if I were you.

>> No.127490

1 minute, prepare your angus, I'm going in dry.

>> No.127516

GRPN ALREADY RISING!

IDS HABBENING!!!! RON PAULBERG 201498303 ADOHAD

>> No.127519

>>127468
I just think its funny since lol "1$ gap down"

>>127480
I'm having fun with this account.

>>127481
They accused you of samefagging as me? kek.

There was that one creepy dude in the thread that was posting pictures of my wife and me.

>> No.127523

>>127519

Wipe, you're literally the worst trader ever

You're Enron or Amaranth-tier trading.

>> No.127527

Anyone wish to speculate as to what groupon will reach today? If it goes as high as $9 (which is still several dollars below what it was before dipping) I'm fucking set.

>> No.127526

>>127523
( ;_;)

>> No.127529

>>127519
>I'm having fun with this account.
That's odd, because when you were up 15% you said you were mimicking your own positions with this account.

>> No.127530

>>127526

lol

Poor Wipe.

What did you go hard on that lost you so much money?

>> No.127533

>>127519
oh so being in last place is fun?

right, you're just pretending to be retarded.

look dude I've been saying since trading threads on /pol/ you are the worst trader on 4chan. here's the only chance you have to prove us wrong, and all you've been doing is proving me right. its been over a year and you haven't gotten any better. we all know by now you're full of shit. you couldn't trade to save your life.

>> No.127536

Off to a decent start today at least.

>> No.127538

>>127529
I was.. But I didn't know afterhours trading wasn't allowed

>>127530
Went hard into DGAZ. Tried to sell and was cockblocked by Marketwatch.

>> No.127545

>>127538
>I was.. But I didn't know afterhours trading wasn't allowed

really shitty excuse. theres no way you would have gotten a fill on a trade that big AH IRL so stop using it. Make a new account if you have to. I want to see you fail again.

>> No.127549

Should I just sell my TSLA stocks at 212, or do you think it will go higher?

>> No.127552
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>>127536
my fslr is coming through today. i am so over leveraged it's scary bring on the gainz. Earnings is tomorrow, and i am really scared. Should i cut some? I dunno though becasue rumnor is fslr has started production in Malaysia on their tetra sun panels which will be the cheapest poly silicon panels in the world china including and 21% efficient.

Also solar city is likely to use fslr tetrasun panels soon. because new trade tarrifs are going to make chian unatractive and other panel providers are planning to compete with solarcity. Wheras first solar has no such plans and has worked with solar city in the past 5 years. I sense a nice ying yang situation between scty and fslr developing.

>> No.127553

>>127549
i'm short

>> No.127557

>>127549
TSLA's at 212 now? I knew I should've held onto them past 209, damnit.

>> No.127560

>>127549
it wil probably come down in the short term but long term it will probably go higher still. depends on how long you want to hold. If less than 6 months i would take profit. If longer than a year stay in.

>> No.127565

Fuck. CANV entered at 150.

>> No.127566

Amda = 1337

>> No.127567

KEK@YNDX BUY

>> No.127574

DDD will hit bottom, get ready. Also DGAZ anniversary: lost me 2k.

>> No.127577

PRAN is making its way back up to 9 again. Could be time for another short soon.

>> No.127580

>>127574
Rip 2k....


>>127577
SHORT PRAN


>>127560
Been shorting UVXY all morning.

>> No.127589

ALL NEW S&P HIGHS. Buy high, sell higher.

>> No.127611

>>127574
bottom is going to fall out on that bitch

short now buy in a year

>> No.127625

game broken for anyone else?

>> No.127626

Game keeps glitching out on me. Happening to anyone else? Keeps booting me to main Marketwatch screen

>> No.127627

>Virtual Stock Exchange is experiencing technical problems, please check back.

FUCK.

>> No.127628

>>127625
>>127626
Same...

>> No.127630

>>127626
>>127625

Yup, fucked for me too.

>> No.127637

>>127626
>>127627
>Virtual Stock Exchange is experiencing technical problems, please check back.
same

>> No.127632

>>127626
Yep, its down

>> No.127633
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fuck pull out

>> No.127634

Virtual Stock Exchange is experiencing technical problems, please check back.


oh well I'm buy/sell and hold so w/e

>> No.127636

Insider tip: Do not invest in Marketwatch, their terrible servers are bound to send their stock plummeting

>> No.127639

>>127628
Working for me now

>> No.127641

works for me now

>> No.127645

If I'm lucky this will glitch out my CANV buy back and I won't go 11k in the red.

>> No.127648

>>127639
And now it is down...
I already sold what I wanted to so meh

>> No.127656

>>127580
that's kinda cheating but you could probably do it with puts and selling calls. so meh

>> No.127658

DDD is laying down a floor...

>> No.127661

>>127645
Make that 15k in the red now, with this 15 minute delay

>> No.127665

SERVER IS BACK UP

MONEY FOR THE MONEY GOD

>> No.127670

>>127661
Warned you CANV wasn't worth it. The delay is a killer, as all you can do is hope it doesn't rise within that 15 min.

>> No.127672

Well, actually up for once. ATK is looking good as a long term future stock cause "lol constant ammo shortage" May have shot myself in the foot shorting CMCSA at market open. Oh well.

>> No.127676

>>127670
Yeah, I'm not gonna touch anything with a delay again.

>> No.127677

>>127672
Riding the sweeeet CMCSA train...

>> No.127678

>>127645

u mirin my $140 CANV buy up to $180 sell?

>> No.127683

>>127678
CANV is everywhere

>> No.127685

>>127676
Yep, that was my lesson friday. The risk isn't worth it even if the potential payout looks juicy. Wouldn't be so bad without the delay.

>> No.127689

>>127658
and theres the pop

>> No.127692
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>tfw I have 2 portafolios
The first one is low risk, very close to what I would do in real life, diversified, looking for at least a 1 year horizon. Then I have another one where I invested all my money in 2 assets.
>Tfw the second has make a lot more than the first one

>> No.127700

>>127692
If you look at the rankings the person in 2nd place has only made 1 trade so far.

>> No.127705

>>127677
Up or down? Honestly, fuck 'em. They're the reason I'm stuck with DSL. Even still im banking on them falling because of this deal

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>>127692
I have two portfolios.. one is trying to loose moeny my hardest and the other make it safely. Both are in the top 10.

>> No.127718

>>127711
I've been scalping this dgaz movement like a boss. Up 10K or so

>> No.127720

>>127692
>>127711
Mfw I have only one account which I try to play safe and therefore will never be in top or flop 10.

>> No.127731

>>127711
You'll never be as good at being as bad as Rick James

>> No.127733

I wish this portfolio was real...
I just made over 5k in 30ish min.

>> No.127734

>>127720
you'll be fine dude. if your goal is to reduce drawdowns you'll come out in at least the top 50 by the end of the game.

everyone wants to go fast but IMHO sitting on your hands and catching the BIG moves is the best strategy.

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Whatsup bitches

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>>127733
>my irl account doing well today.

just get that first 25k saved up .. if you keep winning on the stock simulation start doing it irl. If you are loosing on the simulation stop trading

>> No.127752

>>127746
ohh oops margin call .. lol fuck bitches get money

>> No.127753

>>127720
Thats why I made the second one, to have some fun, I was thinking of doing that a third one with these guys.
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/FAZ:US
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/QID:US
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/SH:US
So when the market inevitably crashes late in this year I take in massive profits. Sadly it is more likely that I would be the last place investing in these etfs.

>> No.127754

Jnpr is getting back up goys

>> No.127755

>>127752
Delete that mate is has your account number and name...

>> No.127758

Fuark, why can't I find an energy stock that isn't rising.

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>>127752
deleted just becasue .... account number..shit not sure if that could be hacked

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>>127743

>> No.127763

>>127759
wil hak u guuuuuud

>> No.127765

>>127743
Kingmidas goldgrabber
+5400 atm
>yfw

>> No.127767

>mfw FB $71
>50% gains in 3 days ezpz

>> No.127768

>>127760
we get it you made 4% on one pick real cool

>> No.127769

>>127759
Lol good idea. :)

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>>127519
heard it is your sister.

>> No.127773
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>>127759
With just an account number? No.

>> No.127776

>>127773

Lol Carter Rook.

>> No.127777

DDD trying to build another floor lots large orders on the buy side

>> No.127784

>>127771
Lol no

>> No.127785

>>127776
please dont hack :.(

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127791

>>127760

>> No.127796
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#RECN #REKT

>> No.127798

>>127791
so you gonna share your pick or what?

>> No.127803

>>127798
Soon.

Ps: when amrn goes up to 2usd buy the shit out of it

>> No.127815

>>127777
damn couldn't even get a point off this I'm out

>> No.127822
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>>127791
Now keep those gains consistently and you may make the top 10.

>> No.127838

Forever waiting for AMRN and TUCND to hit $2

>> No.127841

>>127822
Can the game owner lower the min value of share to 1usd instead of 2?

>> No.127850

>>127841
Forget it.

>> No.127853

>>127771
fake tits are fake

>> No.127858

Is there a way to set your limits as percentage changes?

>> No.127859

>>127803
But isn't the $2 point a resistance point? It has remained so since Jan 21

>> No.127861

>>127791
Kingmidas at 7000+ and rising

>> No.127864

>>127815
of course

>> No.127865

>>127838
>>127838
>>127838
>>127838


Fucking this

>> No.127866

>>127841
I am not sure it is possible once the game has started.
I think the point was to stop people rushing for penny stocks or something so they wouldn't change it anyways.

>> No.127873

Hey guys, how I set my shares to autosell once they reach a set value?

>> No.127880

>>127771
>>127853
Stop samefagging nigger. kill yourself

>>127873
use the stop option

>> No.127888

>>127873
Set a limit or stop order.

>> No.127890

>>127865
Fucking this too, fuck trading low volume stocks.

>> No.127906

fuggin PEP y did i buy u @ peek

>> No.127909
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127909

>>127873
put in a sell order with limit above the price you want to sell at.. or put a stop order BELOW at a max loss you will take if it falls under the stop it auto sells to protect you (i don't recommend that especially with volatile stocks, mm love to trigger stops and get free shares) but limit orders are good to catch spikes and lock in gains

>> No.127917

I SET A STOP ORDER FOR GROUPON AT $10 AND IT SOMEHOW SOLD IT ALL AT $8 FUCK THIS GAME IM FUCKING DONE

>> No.127919

Natural Gas Contracts:

Mar 14 5.867 -0.268

Apr 14 4.912 -0.100


Gas prices are finally correcting. Top kek

>> No.127926

>>127917
stop order is for below the price, a stop order above the current price will trigger immidiately

see

>>127909
you wanted a limit order

anyway consider it a lesson learned.

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I THINK MY STOCK WILL RISE WHEN I SCREAM IN THIS TOPIC

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>>127917

>> No.127937

>>127919
april is still at 4.9 that is at lowest production of the year, do you really think natty is gonna crack 4.9 by april? If it doesn't than dgaz is perpetually decaying day by day

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>>127880

>> No.127943

>>127926
it's all good, I bought it all back and lost a few grand in the process, but if it goes up anywhere near it's original price I'm gonna shoot right up to the top of the leaderboard anyways.

>> No.127945

>>127909

is this rise in FLSR due to tomorrows ER?

>> No.127952

>Spend all my ameridosh on GRPN while it's 8.15
>It goes down to 8.14
That's it, I'm done.

>> No.127956

>>127945
I don;t know the real reason, I sold some of my fslr on Friday but when i woke up today i got the spidey sens tingle something was up and bought it all back at market open.. stupid move but I knew somehow it was gonna spike. i think it is just the fact that options expired and someone had a Stockton huge amount of 56 options that was holding the price back. So i think it is defiantly headed to 60 now 100% sure. Earnings could rally it on any mention of tetra sun panels to 75 imo

>> No.127958

>>127952
patience nigger, we'll be the ones laughing when it shoots the fuck up to the moon

>> No.127970

>>127952

This is why you won't actually make money. You're too skittish.

>> No.127977

>>127937

I do. The gap between the two contracts keep narrowing.

>> No.127993

>>127952
It's up at 8.18 now, I'm gonna be a fucking millionaire.

>> No.127996

>>127952
I always buy declining stocks at around latish 3 in the afternoon.

Bought groupon like at 8.05

>> No.128003

>>127977
I disagree but then again i would never trade natgas with real moeny because i don't know much about it. But I just think the inventories are so low and production will take time. people assume winter ending will rally it but it's gotta get back into the stock first and energy companies are obligated to buy that shit regardless of price and not pass it onto consumers so consumer backlash too high prices will be a long time coming.

>> No.128008

>>127996
I was having a fap then, so I didn't see that.

>> No.128015

What does it mean if my order on TD Ameritrade is "open"? I bought TSLA shortly after opening but it hasn't filed, still "open".

>> No.128024

>>128015
Did you use a limit order?

>> No.128026

>>128015
What kind of order was it? Market/Limit

>> No.128031

Do real brokers allow you to set your limits as percentages?

>> No.128034

>>128031
no it's gotta be a number in dollars and cents

>> No.128038

>>128026
>>128024
Limit

>> No.128039

>>128031
Some brokers allow such thing as "trailing stops", which can be set as a % below market price

>> No.128041

Anyone playing AMC tonight?

>> No.128043

>>128038
if it falls below your limit price it will execute.. if not it won't, so I am assuming you will not buy it until your limit order is over the ask price

>> No.128045

>>128038
Means it didn't reach the limit you set so the order will stay open until it reaches that limit.

>> No.128048

>>128043
>tfw your naked short on UGAZ is paying off big right now

Did you hold your DGAZ position?

>> No.128054

>>128045
>>128043
So now what? I was set to buy 3 shares of TSLA at 210.

>> No.128058

>>128003

There are a few reasons why the spike in nat gas has been so deceiving. The first is that while this has been a cold and snowy winter, we need to take a look at the influence of coal power. With nat gas prices sky rocketing, there is an increased demand for coal, and the nat gas supplies aren't getting hit as hard as they were. Plus you had a revision on last week's report showing the draw down in supply wasn't as dramatic as first estimated. Plus with weather warming back up, the transport and delivery of nat gas is going to be easier.

This correction is expected, and it isn't just profit taking

>> No.128059

>>128054
Well if you still want to buy at that price you will have to wait for it to fall again. Is currently around $215 (made me a nice amount today).

>> No.128071

>>128048
I couldn't stand the gains, i had to exit. lol, any advice to loose.... some moeny wipe.. I can't do it

>> No.128073

>>127633
SELL SELL SELL

>> No.128074

>>128071
Short the shit out of DGAZ. Just do it.

>> No.128077

>>128071
Buy PRAN.

>> No.128081

>>128059
If I cancel it, will I get my stock BP back?

>> No.128083
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128083

>>128058
But I am expecting a cold and snowy march in the NE which will be the key natgas market. Those homes are gassed up they can't just switch to coal, maybe a few powerplants can.. anyway in the end this for me is a win win situation. it underscores why solar is a great energy source. No input cost speculation. I just need obama to rev up those china tarrifs and subsides and i will be golden.

>> No.128087

>>128059
And what if I just change the order to Market?

>> No.128088

>>128077
ok i am buying pran

>> No.128093
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128093

sweet jesus

ITS HAPPENING AGAIN

>> No.128095

>>128081
Yes, if the order hasn't gone through then cancelling shouldn't be much of a problem.
>>128087
Means you will buy at the current market price. So you need to first check to see if you are buying it at the right time (during a dip).

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128097

>>128088
buy pran... instantly price spike.. i can;t stand this... it happens EVERY TIME

>> No.128103

>>128097
I got a short order set up for when it hits $9. Hoping it will tumble back down.

>> No.128100

>>128093
So overbought... How does it keep it up

>>128088
>>128097
Fucking lol

Nigga if you would short DGAZ you would be getting #rekd right now

>> No.128107

>>128100
the stock is so active for traders that most brokers are just buying huge blocks at any price to keep up with retail demand so they can keep that commission dough flowing in

>> No.128104

>>128083
I know it, its a fucking cycle.

>> No.128105

>>128074
I heard you are Mexican and you turned your back on your christian upbringing. No wonder you trade like a lost soul.

>> No.128109

>>128095
TSLA certainly isn't dipping...

>> No.128113

>>128105
Still samefagging.

>>128107
He's trying to lose so I gave him a losing play

>> No.128114

LGTSS

>ISIS

>> No.128115

>>128093
fuck I never should have sold. Fucking saved, also.

>> No.128116

>>128097

Me and you are neck to neck

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128121

>>128109
If you look a the graph it is going between 215 and 216 currently. I would call that a slight dip, though the risk is it could rocket up or collapse down at any point.

>>128100
Well it is making 94 other people some decent money in the game.

>> No.128122

So can someone explain to me why every investor says to keep a well diversified portfolio but the most successful people ITT only seem to have one or two stocks?

>> No.128125

>>128122
cause the game is only a week or so old

>> No.128126

>>128104
Fuck I meant knew...

>> No.128129

>>128122

Because we're playing with fake money.

>> No.128135

>>128122
for me diversifying requires more research and care. i treat every stock I want to hold very carefully and unless the perfect tsunami of good info strikes i won't buy it.

Diversifying limits your risk sure, but is also limits your volatility. Volatility is how you make money imo. It is much easier for me to have in depth knowledge of one equity and one sector i want to be a part of than just flip a few trades in it to pad my position.

basically a jack of all trades is a master of none.

>> No.128132

>>128083

This polar vortex shit is all media manipulation. We will see if this March is another month of extraordinarily cold month, but with much of the lower 48 thawing out, I don't think that the NE market will be enough to keep up these nat gas prices

>> No.128133

>>128129
So technically you could make way more money with poor diversification, but it's just too risky? Thanks.

>> No.128141

>>128133

Also, some players have multiple accounts.

>> No.128137

>Don't buy Sony /biz/said
>Bankruptcy /biz/ said
Fucking love the amount of people who likes to sprout shit here that don't understand anything. Sony up another 2% today, putting me over 40% in gains < 1 month

>> No.128138

>>128122
Because we aren't playing with real money we can afford to try stuff like that. If you have a room full of goons willing to dump $100,000 on a single stock each odds are at least one of them will do well.

>> No.128145

>>128137
see
>>127459

know sony is on the up now it's pretty obvious a good time to buy sony.

>> No.128150

>>128133
The risk is if you take a loss then you take the full loss, while with the gain you get the full gain. Unlike a diverse portfolio to help offset losses if any stock dives.

>> No.128151

>>128141
SHUT IT DOWN

Seriously though, I feel like this would be a much better learning experience if all the knowledgeable guys actually went for a lower risk portfolio that more accurately reflects their real life ones. If the goal of this is to learn to invest shouldn't we all be acting as though it IS real money?

>> No.128153

>>128145
Definitely, I actually bought Sony at bottom and it definitely has a ton of room to run.

All that depends whether they will continue selling off their terrible products.

>> No.128160

>>128151
But this portfolio does reflect my irl portfolio which i sup 57% in the last month

>> No.128166

>>128122
Dude it is fake money
Of course you are only going to hear from those who got high gains

>Me, 7772+ atm lolol
>Amda and buying jnpr at low point

>> No.128161

>>128122
Yes goy, diversify and settle for a whopping 4% per year oh vey, what a wammy.

>> No.128162

>>128137
>over 40% in gains < 1 month

What? I see 15 % max...

>> No.128163

Bidu earning this week, any opinion?

>> No.128168

>>128162
I was 70% in options (July and Jan calls)

>> No.128185

>>128160
mirin

So what, do you have only one or two stocks? Or quite a few stocks from one sector?

>> No.128188

LL is a really good IRL buy

it got destroyed by one short seller at a conference claiming that their margins were going to be severely affected because a small part of their supply chain came from illegally sourced lumbar from russia. His whole short thesis was based on that.

>> No.128196

I should build a long position in DGAZ soon. Maybe some calls...

>> No.128207

Being top 5 in this game is disappointing due to how it's a hell of a procedure for me to invest in American stocks as a foreigner, even though I'd probably get a good marginal return.

I really should fill out that tax return and send it off to the IRS. Procrastination won't get me anywhere

>> No.128203

>>127754
You goys didnt listen
It just went up 0.55 and rising

>> No.128205
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128205

Its on

>> No.128216

>>128205
I love how the account you intended to destroy me is now almost number one

>> No.128223

>>128216
wot

>> No.128224

>>128216
The problem was PRAN spiked to $9.30 after I said buy it.

>> No.128230

>>128223
Sorry thought you were Wiped Out. He's trying to intentionally lose

>>128224
Told you, shorting DGAZ was the losing bet!

>> No.128231

>>128185
Right now I am pretty much all in fslr I get into and out of tan etf when i feel like fslr is in danger of a correction to the downside to keep things balanced.

imo the solar sector is going to explode like nobody can imagine. Bigger than the tech bubble of 2000, way bigger. It will happen in the next 5 years. I am going to be on this ride.

The future is going to be all about technology automation and energy. Energy will become almost moneyl like as it spreads across a global powergrid. This is going to be the future enron should of had.

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128237

>>128122
There is nothing to lose so you can play high risk. In real life and in the long haul this strategy is unsustainable.

Also pic related with short selling sometimes.

>> No.128239

>>128230
>tfw I missed TKMR
Knew it was coming too

>> No.128240

>>128216
It;s funny and makes me wonder if my accounts are being mirrored possibly because they mined my data and saw my 50% portfolio gain irl.

>> No.128241

So...what do you guys do in real life?

I work in payroll.

>> No.128244

>>128231
Why are you so convinced on Solar? We're not actually in an energy "crisis", and solar's efficiency kinda suck dick.

Would invest in nuclear

>> No.128247

>>128224
yup and the very second i sold it it crashed again

>> No.128257

>>128241
Own businesses.

>>128239
What did you miss

>>128240
You must have sold your soul to the devil

>> No.128249

>>128241
College

>> No.128252

>>128241
just a day trader. I have been emulating my actual trades on the game

>> No.128254

>>128241
neet

>> No.128263

BUY DGAZ

>> No.128259

>>128241
2nd year accounting major

>> No.128260

>>128257
10% overnight m8

>> No.128266

>>128241
Pharmaceutical research

>> No.128272

>>128263
>after its up 12%
hue hue
UGAZ m8

>> No.128271

>>128266
Whats that like?

>> No.128274

>>128272
y ugaz

>> No.128273

>>128241
Maschinenbautechniker. Can't find the english work for it, but metal worker is very close to it.

I'm trying to make a bit of extra money in the stock market...

>> No.128281

>>128274
Nat gas futures likely wont break 5.50

>> No.128277

>>128273

*word

>> No.128278

>>128271
Slow sometimes, crazy other times. Working for a startup, so it's an emotional roller coaster to say the least.

>> No.128279

>>128273
Und? Läufts?

>> No.128284

>>128278
Where are you based out of?

>> No.128287

>>128284
In the US, but I won't get too specific.

>> No.128291

>>128244
No there won;t be a crisis for solar. Actually there may be a temporary crisis for competing power sources like coal and nuclear.

>why am I convinced on soalr

Because the writing is on the wall. Solar efficiency and cost scaling follows a trend similar to moores law. It is not slowing down anytime soon because we have barely tapped into solar technology potential. Cheap panels are still at 13% efficient and expensive panels are still at 21-24%

There is much room for improvement up to 50% and beyond as well as room for cost reduction.

In a few decades solar power will be so cheap it will be cheaper than dirty water, essentially almost free. The cause of the industrial revolution was a source of power the ability to do work essentially.

Solar will provide the power source of the next industrial revolution. Nuclear is too expensive in comparison. And fusion is still a pipe dream.

>Challenges
storage of course.. but things will happen with energy storage as well. Solar could be converted to hydrogen for example which could be burnt with water vapor emissions. Or advanced batteries

what other power source can scale in cost like this and is this abundent? none

what power source is this safe and easy to use that someone can have it on their own home on their own gadgets? none pretty much

In the future work will be done by machines and supercomputers automated and they will sue power as their fuel of the next industrial revolution.

>> No.128294

>>128287
Why not? It's not like we are going to hunt you down or anything... Just wanted to know if you were nearby.

>>128291
>In the future work will be done by machines and supercomputers automated and they will sue power as their fuel of the next industrial revolution.

Someone has watched too much Animatrix

>> No.128295

>>128279
Ich versuch mein bestes. Hab vor kurzem AMD verkauft (+70%). Hab +3450€ gemacht nach der KEST. Hab ~7500€ investiert. War mein erster trade...

>> No.128307

>>128294
Florida

>> No.128302

mvis made me 6k, what's the next big hype stock for today/this week

>> No.128303

>>128291
Solar is getting to the point that the common man is starting to consider it as an investment for their home.

I've seen people blow out more money on impact windows for energy efficiency and decreased insurance than what solar costs right now.

>> No.128305

>>128295
Wie bist du da rein gekommen? Also in die ganze Thematik. Erscheint mir noch relativ Komplex.

>> No.128314

>>128307
>Florida

Not South right?

And don't worry, I've dropped my city on 4chan and nothing bad has happened.

>> No.128320

>>128307
Ah how is Florida. I was supposed to go for vacation and take a boat out of Fort Lauderdale but wife got really sick and we had to cancel

>>128314
Everyone knows I live in Dallas.

>> No.128321

>>128294
I don;t even know what that is. But anyway. yeah man just becasue it was written about before doesn't mean it won't happen. Visions of what the future will be like are often very accurate but have some essential misgivings about specifics.

>> No.128327

>>128323
Most of us are lonely bro. Normalfags aren't fun to hang around

>> No.128323

>>128314
Asking for too much detail. What does it matter where I am anyways?

>> No.128331

>>128321
>Visions of what the future will be like are often very accurate but have some essential misgivings about specifics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC5sbdvnvQM

You're probably right.

>> No.128329

>>128305
Hmm, weis auch nicht mehr so genau. Hab mich relativ viel mit den game-konsolen beschäftigt und hab aufmerksam die ganzen 'gerüchte' von diversen seiten gelesen und verfolgt. Bin dann auf AMD 'gestoßen' und hab mir die aktien ein paar wochen später über mein Bank-Konto gekauft.

>> No.128330

>>128320
Florida is nice most of the year. Weather is best in October/November and Feb/March, so we get assloads of tourists clogging up everything around those times. Old people, yo.

>> No.128334

>>128329
Über dein Bank Konto? Das heißt du bist auf keiner Trading Plattform?

>> No.128345

>>128334
Ja, raiffeisenbank. Bin gerade dabei mein Brokerjet konto einzurichten weil mir die gebühren viel zu hoch sind.

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>>128303
It's going to explode....

correction...

it is exploding now.

the price point is already cheaper than utilities in many areas and that will only be increasing with time. SCTY will be offering finance for solar so you don't have to pay anything to even get solar. they lock in a lower energy rate for you and instal the panels. Power plants are starting to join the arms race they can't let residents take all the glory. However on thing about solar cities model i do not like is they are betting on power prices remaining the same. they won;t imo electricity prices will crash in the next 5 years. And solar city is going to make a fortune because their contracts all have increasing price models or flat price models for their customers. Some people who are getting solar city modules now are going to regret their decision i think. they will be paying more than electricity costs soon.

>> No.128352

>>128291
Well, what solar would u recommend?

>> No.128350

just bought 1000 pran

what do

>> No.128351

>>128330
We would have come late January and headed to the Bahamas.. Sad to miss out on that but that's life.

>>128348
Also the energy output is almost greater than the initial energy input for solar cells

>> No.128356

>>128348
>500-4500 MK/H

to be fair, that's not a lot to begin with

>> No.128354

>>128350

Sell it and short PRAN.

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128373

wtf is edisons new money?

i dont have time to sit through this shit.

anyone wtf it is?

>> No.128377

Long Tim Hortons

you're welcome

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128388

>>128356
4.5B

US uses + 732B

still under 1%.

The forecasts for solar power have been consistently under estimated the last few years. people who understand how solar can generate market demand through moores law type advancement unlike microprocessors understand that we are only decades away form the extinction of fossil fuels entirely. I am just taking advantage of their gross miscalculation.

>In 2002, a top industry analyst predicted an additional 1 gigawatt annual market by 2010. The annual market in 2010 was 17 times that at 17 gigawatts.

>In 1996, the World Bank estimated 0.5 gigwatts of solar photovoltaic in China by 2020, but China reached almost double that mark—900 megawatts by 2010.

>> No.128408

pulling away
>Thank you based UGAZ

>> No.128418

>>128408
Sold DGAZ at 3.22$ and opened a short against it. Just playing this dips in the Nat Gas

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128430

i just signed up for this randomly and jesus christ i had no idea that you could lose or make money so fucking quick
how do you fags stay so on top of it

inb4 git gud

>> No.128433

>>128430
git gud

>> No.128436

>>128430
practice/experience

>> No.128439

You guys should probably start shorting Juniper

>> No.128440

>>128439
Why

>> No.128448

>>128430
Think about what the market is thinking about the future. Think one step ahead of that thought.

>> No.128446

Going to cover ISIS once it hits 60.

>> No.128450

>>128440
It's about to crash

>> No.128452
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128452

>>128430

>> No.128455
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128455

There's 69 of you holding AAPL, how much have y'all lost so far?

>> No.128461

>>128455
About $300

>> No.128467

>>128455
For me not much, I limited my exposure to it and I got into Netflix early on today along with tesla so those have been buoying my growth.

>> No.128469

>>128455
did you hear about apple talking with tesla. It seemed apple was looking to tesla for guidance and there was a possible acquisition rumor. This is bad for apple becaue it sends the signaling to investors apple is lost and looking to f** tesla for help. I think that is what is behind the pullback.

>> No.128478

>>128467
Speaking of netflix, the deal with comcast should have them spike a decent amount. Comcast will start offering free netflix with their basic boxes and shit.

Rev up those shares.

>> No.128481

ALL IN UGAZ
WE HIGH BETA NOW

>> No.128482

>>128455
I'm short

does that number count everyone who is playing the stock or just people who are long?

>> No.128491

>>128469

That sounds plausible, but that's a really weak reason to sell off. Apple's pipeline seems like it's on point.

>> No.128501

>>128452
Fucking advice dog.. Worst thing to happen to memes ever

>>128481
UGAZ? Been shorting UGAZ all morning

>> No.128516

>>128501
I remember a time without advice dog, even without coolface...
Captcha hydrometeor wat

>> No.128512

>>128491
They better not stumble on their watch idea. i dunno to me the whole watch phone concept seems ahead of it's time or gimmicky. the hardware sector is reeving up the competition they need to lead in software and apps.

They need to get working on biological implants or something comon step it up spend that dosh. Couldn't do anything better than stock buyback....

>> No.128525

>>128512
>Ahead of it's time or gimmicky

Invest until it's announced, price will go up a significant amount.

I'll be watching updates on apple products, as soon as something negative gets announced for a product, investors hope off that shit.

>> No.128526

>>128501
its bottomed

>> No.128529

>>128516
Not on /biz/ you don't

>> No.128537

>>128516
Lol remember when it was called "coolface"? Started lurking in early 07. So I guess that makes me Gen 1 Newfag

I used to make Battletoads threads. Shit was lulzy. Also Starbucks icecream cake

>> No.128538

>>128516

Wasting half a decade on 4chan is nothing to be proud of.

>> No.128541

Is AMD still a buy?

>> No.128543

>>128541
it was never a buy`

>> No.128544

>>128537
>Battletoads
Oldfag feels

>> No.128545

>>128538
>wasting

You're here forever anon. Nobody is proud of it, but doesn't hurt to reminisce

>> No.128546

>>128538
I just "rejoined" recently for /fit/ and now I am on /biz/ >forever.

>> No.128551

I can't believe nat gas has to hit a 1.50 point swing before it triggers a circuit breaker. what a broken fucking market.

>> No.128555

>>128544
Went looking for thread.. Is 4chan archive gone?

>> No.128558

>>128551

Wahhhh bail me out.

>> No.128561

>>128551

Always has been.

>> No.128564

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/behindthestorefront/2014/02/24/g-asset-management-founder-explains-why-he-wants-to-buy-barnes-noble/

You nigs better be shorting that shit

>> No.128567

>>128558
but I'm short and besides you can't justify that.

>> No.128568

bump limit reached

>> No.128589

>>128564
bought some calls and panic sold them at the same price when i realized i just traded without knowing anything about bks. I promised i wouldn't do that.

>> No.128592

>>128564
sounds like alot of run up in the short term, why would I short?

>> No.128610

>>128592
Handing over companies is never good, it's too risky because the new CEO could make one bad decision and fuck your asshole

>> No.128611

>>128607

>> No.128799

MW IS GONNA BUY JOSB THEY WILL SPIKE SCREENCAP

>> No.128834

anyone here use a newsletter?

im thinking about signing up with morpheus trading.