Redpill me on Graphic design jobs

[Anonymous No.12583163]

Are they worth getting a degree in? Will I work with hot roasties? The pay here in California ranges from 13-19 an hour starting. Seems low. I could just go to a junior college and get a certificate. Help me out bros.

[Anonymous No.12583185]

>>12583163
You do not need a degree to do graphic design. If you have any abilities whatsoever you can get freelance jobs pretty quickly.
Starting out and getting your first customers can be difficult, but once you're over the hump and have a portfolio to show off, getting subsequent work becomes easier.

[Anonymous No.12583187]

In big companies they already make a styleguide and the rest is done by ux/coders/ai.
You were born too late to get it job.

[Anonymous No.12583189]

>>12583163
wher iz sauce fren?

[Anonymous No.12583192]

>>12583163
Why would you need a degree for graphic design? The reason the pay is low is because literally no experience is necessary. Either you can draw and design or you cant.

[Anonymous No.12583235]

>>12583192
Interesting, it does look easy imo. Im sure the "professors" are complete dumbasses as well. Maybe saved me 200 bucks for taking a class.

[Anonymous No.12583238]

Sauce NOW

[Anonymous No.12583264]

>>12583235
It's easy to operate illustrator/photoshop/indesign
It's harder to make consistent appealing designs.

>>12583187
Not really. Big companies outsource their shit.
UX/UI is different and if you can get into this field you will make way more than developers. Go for a degree in this if anything
>coders
Devs are usually braindead and could not design to save their life.

[Anonymous No.12583279]

>>12583192
Peoples idea of can and can't draw/design are on stupid. Most people have an acquired taste and think if something doesn't look like something they are used to seeing then that person is bad. Most design is so boring right now.

[Anonymous No.12583317]

>>12583163
over saturated.

[Anonymous No.12583346]

>>12583279
agree, but to avoid speaking out my arse i got to admit i have no experience in the design industry nor know anyone that has, but to extrapolate from incomplete data my conclusion would be that the design industry is not a golden goose egg, just like a STEM degree wasnt, or just like how a banking job wasnt, or how a lab position wasn't, etcetera etcetera ad infinitum, it all looks comfy and promising until you actually get it and realize it is shit.

[Anonymous No.12583366]

>>12583163
fuck this gay ass thread, give us sauce instead

[Anonymous No.12583376]

>>12583366
do these guys know they’re memes ? I swear they play up to it.

[Anonymous No.12583447]

>>12583376
>do these guys know they're memes
>implying they are memes

[Anonymous No.12583576]

>>12583376
someone must've shown them by now. when you get that deluded with dis-morphia you generally don't give a shit anymore though

[Anonymous No.12583615]

>>12583264
>you will make way more than developers
Not really. I'm a UI designer and I make half of what the devs make.

[Anonymous No.12583776]

>>12583317
Theres a fuckton of jobs in my area, literally more get added every week.

[Anonymous No.12583793]

>>12583163

Post more phat butt asians

[Anonymous No.12583798]

>>12583615
That sucks, really. In my area they're paid around 1.25~1.5x what devs make.
I guess it also depends on your experience and who you're working for.

[Anonymous No.12583815]

>>12583163
It really depends on how good you are.
I've been making around 90k as a graphic designer for a big pharmaceutical company, but it was mostly creative work, not just creating pictures per second.
But I know of lots of people that just photoshop almost porn for car salesmen ads and live in poverty.
Overall, of you're creative, first and foremost creative, you will make it. If you just learn the skill, the skill itself isn't very valuable.

[Anonymous No.12583827]

Graphic design is an ART, if you need to goto school for a ART degree/certificate YOU ARENT GOING TO MAKE IT OP lmao.

Self-employed freelance Anon here, AMA. 150k/year, Travel 200 days/year (more or less if I choose). My niche is Hospitality, I work with only the top hotels where I get to stay and eat for free (all expenses comped). To make this career even sweeter, I purchase all my expenses on my Chase Sapphire Preferred card and make about 10k/year in rewards.

Heres the kicker: I dropped out of high school and never went to college. 100% Self-made creative professional. No "certificate" required, just street smarts and a good personality.

[Anonymous No.12583848]

>>12583827
Teach me your secrets

[Anonymous No.12583857]

waiting for sauce

[Anonymous No.12583892]

>>12583848

> street smarts
> good personality

[Anonymous No.12583907]

>>12583892
he has a chad skeleton
fug

[Anonymous No.12583912]

>>12583185
This, you really just need a good portfolio.

>>12583163
OP graphic designer can be quite lucrative if you get into the tech sector. Get into UI and interaction design. My wife is a graphic designer and makes 150k+ at a tech company.

[Anonymous No.12583948]

>>12583892

This anon gets it.

>>12583848

To clarify street smarts are the opposite of book smarts. Book smarts require the retention of excessive useless data. This is too much work.

Street smarts requires the ability to problem solve in general. If you don't know the answer to something, instead of saying "I dont know", you figure out the fucking answer or you find somebody to solve it for you while taking credit as the one who solved the problem in question. Take this concept a bit further and apply this train of thought to anything really (int he creative world).

Now, good personality is a bit harder to come by. You need to train yourself to be likable, likability is the key to sales, client retention... and business in general.

Once you have street smarts and personality, you can literally do ANYTHING and get paid for it.

[Anonymous No.12583964]

>>12583948
Yes. But how do I find work

[Anonymous No.12583974]

>>12583827
Nice, what languages do you use the most? I suspect I'm going to have to code. Show us some sketches you've made.

[Anonymous No.12584002]

>>12583857
snis-555

[Anonymous No.12584009]

>>12583964

Hahaha, c'mon. When you're LIKEABLE the work comes to you. I have never advertised or marketed myself, ever. All I do is humble brag, low key, to everyone I meet in real life. Once you get the ball rolling, its very easy to chit chat in the hotel bar in Hong Kong and when a wealthy business man starts to ask you what you're doing there... game over. If he doesn't have any work for you he will tell his friends about this badass dude he met in HK. Your name will trickle down to the marketing dept.

[Anonymous No.12584038]

>>12584009

>kys id

kys

[Anonymous No.12584051]

>>12584009
I got a lot of my previous work from word of mouth. It was during my time in college and people found out I did design work. The work grew, but since moving across the country it has been damn hard getting my foot back in the door.

[Anonymous No.12584066]

>>12583163

If youre not doing pleb tier GD, you can make a lot of money. I'm talking serious businesses in major metropolitan centers hiring you on a freelance/project basis. I went to RISD and had a lot of friends in GD. They all have between $750-$1000 day rates. But you should expect to get a degree from a major art school, which more than providing a full technical skillset ranging from traditional typesetting to web coding (you would not believe how many classes you can take on the basic shapes of letters and the weight of their social/historical associations), provides a broad understanding of art/design history, taste, and social access. Extreme technical proficiency is a must and merely a foundation; like it or not, the difference between pleb-tier design jobs and the ones that pay huge amounts is "social exposure", be it in the form of knowledge of trends/coolness or else organic connections to other interesting or successful artists/designers. Often those two forms of exposure are really the same thing.

[Anonymous No.12584078]

>>12583964

Also, in hospitality, here are your key players:

Hotel Manager
Director of Sales & Marketing
PR Manager

GM (hotel manager) will be impossible to cold call, you need to be introduced, preferably after a successful shoot, the DOSM will ask you to share some dailies with the GM (once you have him eating out of your hands, you can expect high level work to come directly to you, from him.

DOSM have to work with public vendors on a daily basis, you can call any (4 star or higher) hotel and ask for their DOSM's email. Show them your portfolio in a nicely curated gallery geared towards their property and you will easily get a response within a month to a year. If your work speaks to them.

PR people usually have the lower end work (corporate events, print marketing, small social content runs, etc.). These are best to get your foot in the door. Supposed you get hired to shoot a corp event at a fancy hotel, you now have access to shoot whatever you like at said hotel. Boom, instant portfolio content.

[Anonymous No.12584147]

>>12584078
Based. Thanks for the info. So is a majority of your work photography-based? Or do you just about anything in the creative/graphic design field?

[Anonymous No.12584260]

>>12584147

Im basically my own creative agency, I started out in photography, now I do everything and anything my clients ask for (never say no, if I dont know how to do something I hire somebody who can).

Though I dont sell any graphic design specific services, I need to be able to do graphic design well. Im adding logos to the ends of videos I create, Creating text to accompany photos in ads, social, etc. It is highly expected of me to be a graphic designer by second nature. Ive also created insta story templates in photoshop, etc... if your a freelancer creative today, you need to be proficient in all things (photo, video, design, etc.).

Lastly, im explaining all the things you need to have mastered, there is no substitute for being a talented artist, if you dont eat and breathe AESTHETICS you're not gonna make it. You need to be able to tell when something is pretty or ugly and you need to be able to create beautiful things with your eyes closed.

[Anonymous No.12584292]

>>12584260
Super rad. I moved away from photography/videography awhile ago because I thought it was a deadend meme and have been mainly focused on graphic design . I guess it makes sense to be completely well-rounded if you’re basically a one-stop shop for your clients’ creative needs.

[Anonymous No.12584529]

>>12584260
If you’ve got time I’d be interested in learning a bit more from you. [e-mail]

[Anonymous No.12584683]

>>12583163
>Are they worth getting a degree in?
no
>Will I work with hot roasties?
yes
>I could just go to a junior college and get a certificate. Help me out bros.
Dont waste your time with that. Watch a bunch of youtube tutorials and practice making fake projects in Photoshop and Sketch. Build a portfolio of fake projects until you start landing real ones. Then get a full time job. Sites like Fiverr are putting freelancers out of business. You'll only have to be a wagecuck until the next bull run comes, then you can quit that shitty career and be comfy.

[Anonymous No.12585527]

>>12583163
why doesnt she just get up first and walk through?

[Anonymous No.12585595]

>>12585527
Because if you have an ass like that you crawl everywhere anon.

[Anonymous No.12585624]

>>12583163
aw I hate when that happens