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>> No.12557484

By using link

>> No.12557485

>>12557484
/thread

>> No.12557493

>>12557478
Oracle problem is made up nonsense
A simple json parser can be coded in 2 hours by any competent blockchain dev when needed.

>> No.12557496

A credible way to take data from external sources still requires either specially constructed APIs outside the system or something like chainlink, meaning competing oracles.
If Holo solves the oracle problem, it solves it by reconstructing Chainlink inside of it's system.

>> No.12557514

>>12557478
Lol holo unsolved the sybil problem, they arent solving shit you hardware-scam-buying retards

>> No.12557518

>>12557478
Interoperability means you can have whatever code you want on the holochain system. You can code your own block chain into it if thats what your Dapp needs.

>> No.12557521
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>>12557484
based and linkpilled

>> No.12557525

>>12557518
this weasel word answer doesn't mean shit DESU

WHAT software is in place and HOW will it be used? Who is behind it? What is the incentive for oracle node owners? and so on

>> No.12557569

The oracle problem isn't that big, Link whales make it seem that way in order to create the perfect illusion(1000$ meme for example) to feed delusional people.

>> No.12557593

>>12557569
How does a Holo smart contract verify that it's data sources is correct?

>> No.12557617

>>12557593
Since Holochain is not keeping track of a ledger but of agents and their reputation/state, an agent can publish all kinds of data and if he's reputable enough he can be used as an oracle, or a developer can code several oracles into their hAPP by defining a trust/reliabilty threshold for their data sources.

>> No.12557634

>>12557617
and HOW will this be defined? You are avoiding the question sir

>> No.12557639

>>12557484
This

>> No.12557642

>>12557634
Each agent in a hApp shares the DHT portions they have witnessed according to the validation rules of the hApp. All transmissions are end to end encrypted. Further security layers can be utilized by each user. Trustless is possible through self auditing nodes that maintain a public record of immutable events. Multiple oracles could be utilized to cross referrence and when divergence is detected operations could be frozen and notices sent so a human can check on the status.

>> No.12557650

>>12557642
"can", using a lot of business speak.

how will "multiple oracles" be used? Why should I run an oracle?

>> No.12557786

You already know the answer

Close your eyes, try to clear any thoughts you are having
Take long, slow, deep breathes and put all your focus and attention onto your breathing
iiiiiiiinnnn.................... ooooooooooooouuuut

good. Do this for a few minutes, then -
VISUALIZE yourself becoming rich through your LINK investment
ANTICIPATE the things you will buy with your new found abundance of wealth
IMAGINE as though it is all happening now in the present moment, for the present moment is all that truly exists
MOST IMPORTANTLY
FEEL the way you will FEEL when that moment comes and you make it!
FEELING THE EMOTION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUST VISUALIZING THE IMAGES!

Now open your eyes, look in a mirror, and recite these affirmations (use/add your own that is relevant to the reality you want to create once you make it)
I AM RICH
I AM WEALTHY
I AM A MILLIONAIRE
LINK HAS GIVEN ME INFINITE ABUNDANCE
It's important to do this when you wake up and before you go to bed, but do it as often as possible. Also hold the image and idea of us making it and LINK being worth $1,000 or more in your mind as you fall to sleep.

WHEN WE DO THIS COLLECTIVELY MY LINK BROTHERS, THE UNIVERSE WILL SEE TO IT THAT CERTAIN EVENTS, PEOPLE AND CIRCUMSTANCES WILL ALIGN AND BE ATTRACTED TO US - THAT WILL ALLOW OUR DESIRE TO MANIFEST INTO REALITY!
I love you all

>> No.12557800

>>12557484
fpbp

>> No.12557806

>>12557493
It’s the decentralization, the network that gives it its value.

>> No.12557810

>>12557642
>human can check on the status
The automation killer

>> No.12557819

>>12557806
this. it's not the implementation it's the incentive structure of Node operators and staking that makes value

>> No.12557823

>>12557484
literally this

>> No.12558036
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>>12557823
link is worthless, holochain solves the oracle problem because since it's agent centric you can not only pick agents based on their reputation, allowing you to define it programatically but also agents with IRL identities that can be held liable for publishing misleading information on holochain.
it's so fucking simple how the fuck are you mongoloids still struggling with this?

>> No.12558826

>it’s solves MUH ORACLE PROBLEM!

Everyone single person in this thread is a brainlet. Why do you fags keep repeating that muh shitcoin project solves the Oracle problem? Do any of you idiots realize just how deep the Oracle problem is and just how far away we are from solving it?
The only way to truly solve the Oracle problem is to have some sort of omnipotent AI that gives 100% correct outputs. Think HAL 9000 from 2001.

Now stop saying,
>MUH LINK SOLVES THE ORACLE PROBLEM BECAUSE MUH DECEBTRALIZED ORACLES!
Or
>MUH HOLO SOLVES THE ORACLE PROBLEM BY DEFAULT BECAUSE MUH TRUSTED NODES

YOU GUYS ARE ALL BRAINLETS

>> No.12558842

>>12557819
Only you stupid NEETs give a shit about the incentives to operate nodes because you're bagholding.

>> No.12558925

>>12558826
https://vimeo.com/298398823
15.45

It's solved already.

>> No.12559103

>>12557518
>dapps
>2017+2
oh geeze. I'm getting Mobius vibes

>> No.12559123

>>12558036
>>12558842
This

>> No.12559132

>>12557478
who cares! holochads are making monies!

>> No.12559185

>>12557496
The power of a decentralized network is from it's size and quality. Chainlink should be racing to secure its market share because of that. Holo can create it's own chainlink clone but it won't matter because everyone will use the more secure network. The bigger network. Chainlink mainnet. This is also the reason why private chains or forks won't impact mainnet as much as everyone says they will.

>> No.12559238

>>12558842
A finacial incentive is in place to prevent Sybil attacks, otherwise there would be no repurcussian when trying to game the outcome of a contract

>> No.12559253

>>12557478
>>12557484
Hm yeah or by using Verity:

>>12558747

>> No.12559284

>>12559238
>also agents with IRL identities that can be held liable for publishing misleading information on holochain.
this you fucking mongoloid, how the fuck do you brainlets still not grasp that holochain is the key to mass adoption?
In the real world businesses want to be able to sue the shit out of anyone if they fuck them on a deal, until crypto offers them that option they will never adopt it.
Holochain offers both the ability to judge an anonymous agent by it's online reputation online or to hold a non anonymous agent accountable.

>> No.12559582

>>12559284
you just don't get it, do you? it there shouldn't even be possible to fuck someone over. that's like the whole fucking point of crypto, you legally retarded faggot.

>> No.12559600

>>12559582
Pay more attention in your english class junior and maybe people will pay attention to what you have to say.

>> No.12559638

>>12559600
yeah there is one word too much, sorry if you get distracted by this.
again for the brainlets: there shouldn't be the possibility to fuck someone over. that's the point of automated trust, or trustless digital interaction. bitcoin works because you have to trust no one. dumbass.

>> No.12559757

>>12557518
So why aren't there any? Why are they selling Holoports for close to $1,000 a piece? Even Sony and Microsoft release their new consoles when they have a network of games and they're good to go. There isn't anything worthwhile dapps yet on Holochain. Great tech is good and all until there's nothing to play it. That's like having a 67' Corvette but only dirt roads to drive it on.

>> No.12559854

>>12559757
Yeah, because gaming is a new industry that hasn't ever been been fully realized/popularized. You're a fucking idiot.

>> No.12560162

>>12557484
Link is scamcoin haven’t you seen recent threads here. Hahaha all you fags are going to get BTFO. Stay poor losers.