/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.12510585]

>be a believer
>perfect money
>buy some
>never actually took if off the exchange
>get wallet
>>just be you own node bro
>syncs from 0% to 70% in 15 min, then in slow motion
>syncing since days already...

even if it is perfect money, nobody will endure this procedure

[Anonymous No.12510610]

>>12510585
yep it is terrible
that is why is am in zcoin

[Anonymous No.12510658]

>>12510585
>He bought into the anon meme

kek wb buddy feeling better now that u dumped that shitcoin?

[Anonymous No.12510674]

>>12510658
price is good you mongol
privacy is OK
problem is the damn user experience. issue after fucking issue

[Anonymous No.12510835]

is there really just one single wallet for this coin?

[Anonymous No.12510864]

>>12510585
it's not competing with actual money.
cheese pizza connoisseurs will put up with a lot of shit to obtain cunny kino, the convenience of the software isn't that important.

[Anonymous No.12510877]

Works on my machine

[Anonymous No.12510891]

>>12510585
>he doesnt know about towncrier and its implications

[Anonymous No.12510935]

>>12510585
You don't need to run a node in order to store your coins retard

[Anonymous No.12510964]

>>12510585
Fiddle with the settings, nigger.

[Anonymous No.12510986]

>>12510835
No, literally do 5 minutes of research. There are a few mobile wallets that are "trusted" though I would never use one. There's also a webwallet if you want to do that.

You can sync the GUI wallet with a remote node instead of syncing the entire blockchain yourself (trustlessly, which is why it takes so long). You chose the "worst" option if you just want a quick and easy wallet but it's also the most secure option.

[Anonymous No.12511018]

>>12510585
Ask the Blur dev.
He already discovered that this is a scamcoin!
Like all CN coins are!

[Anonymous No.12511086]

>>12510585
>"syncing since days already..."

Stop lying. It takes ~16 hours if you're using HDD (less than 10 if SSD). Unless you're using a soviet PC, you're LARPing.

[Anonymous No.12511123]

>>12510674
>>12510835
Their CLI wallet is one of the best I've seen in crypto. Even if you're a two digit I.Q. and can only use a GUI, theirs is the easiest wallet you can use in crypto. If you're finding trouble with both, then I have bad news...

[Anonymous No.12511143]

Again, our dev bizmunny discoverd many flaws in all CN coins. They all work together to hide their shady workings.
Join the Blur discord and see all the information.
We layed it all out!

[Anonymous No.12511145]

>>12511086
This same guy makes these threads every few months I think to FUD Monero's wallet. It's like, first of all it's not that bad and second of all if you need a webwallet they fucking have one.

[Anonymous No.12511185]

The only coin that counts!
Everything else is a scam!

[Anonymous No.12511209]

>>12510585
my full node synched in 16 h. Also you can use a remote node, it will sync in an hour.

>>12510835
there a some good wallets, on android I like monerujo very much. Others are cacke wallet xwallet etc....

[Anonymous No.12511214]

>>12511123
>CLI
>user experience

>their GUI is the easiest you can use in crypto
Their GUI is a joke, you still have to put in a bunch of manual options when you want to create a Ledger wallet and on top of it will give your errors. Far from smooth.

[Anonymous No.12511292]

Its not meant for normies like OP, its for richies to hide store and move large quantities of wealth.

[Anonymous No.12511336]

This shitcoin will be banned in Japan this year and elsewhere within 2-3 years. Sell your bags

Protip: buy BSV

[Anonymous No.12511377]

>>12511336
>government ban
Worked well with alcohol and drugs.

[Anonymous No.12511425]

>>12511336
protip: kys.

[Anonymous No.12511770]

>>12510585
get an SSD, it's easy to set up the GUI to sync the chain in whatever location you want. I recommend Samsung T5 500GB. I get 4 blocks per second whenever I sync currently using that. It does kind of suck that you need an SSD for it to not take so long, yes, but for what it does a one time investment of $100-$200 shouldn't be too much.

[Anonymous No.12511835]

>>12511336
"the first cryptocurrency to be BANNED because its level of privacy is too dangerous to be allowed" this would be international news and while yes it may be damaging to the price in the short term or increase volatility, it also may not. either way, it would be cemented as the first cryptocurrency banned and the normies will have been signaled at that instant. The price would likely shoot up if it werent a co-ordinated international banning

[Anonymous No.12511854]

Throw you worthless XMR stack into ZCASH before you get absolutely rekt

[Anonymous No.12511863]

>>12511336
also protip: if your best fud against a coin is that it will be the first one governments are going to have to ban because of how powerful it is you should check your brain

[Anonymous No.12511949]

I keep mine on an iOS wallet - MyMonero mainly because I'm too stupid and lazy to do this full node thing. (that's what it's called right?)

[Anonymous No.12511952]

>>12511854
>10% dev fee
>optional privacy
>trusted setup

KEK

[Anonymous No.12512062]

>>12511336
This makes me want to make my first crypto purchase, and I believe crypto is tulip bulbs.

Makes me think...

[Anonymous No.12512163]

>>12512062
>Makes me think...
Don't

[Anonymous No.12513065]

thank you anons
it just synced and I have the full experience
I will now try to store it on a cold wallet
honestly I feel like a criminal
now I just have to wait

[Anonymous No.12513332]

>>12510585
I too fell for this meme. Glad I dumped them at $90. Monero is the real double digit shitcoin. NO ONE will ever use it. All darknet markets use BTC. Privacy coins are a meme.

[Anonymous No.12513459]

>>12513332
But they're actually using.

>"Privacy coins are a meme"
>uses and likes public ledger

[Anonymous No.12513906]

the new mymonero wallet is incredibly simple and doesn't need a full node.

[Anonymous No.12513933]

>>12510585
i selected remote node and the new wallet synced in about 10 minutes, completely when i starte it up after a few days / weeks it only takes a minute or two, set up remote node for synching
>>12510610
which wallet is good for zcash?

[Anonymous No.12513960]

>perfect money
tech-based altcoins like monero can never be "perfect money". monero is a stop-gap solution at best, and definitely not the future of crypto.

if you're looking for "money" either pick btc or pick something outside of crypto.

[Anonymous No.12513964]

>>12513933
This. I connected to monero.world or something and it synced in 1 min. No problems since.

[Anonymous No.12513981]

>>12513933
>buying zioncash
anon pls

[Anonymous No.12514093]

>>12510585
Casuals should use remote nodes. It's funny since casuals are too casual to be aware of this.

[Anonymous No.12514117]

what are the Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Financing provisions in Monero?

[Anonymous No.12514168]

>>12514093
casuals should just use MyMonero: https://mymonero.com/

[Anonymous No.12514172]

>>12511123
Fucking this. The fucking state of bizlets..

[Anonymous No.12514262]

>>12514117
>what are the Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Financing provisions in Monero?
anybody?

[Anonymous No.12514281]

>>12514262
lol

[Anonymous No.12514362]

>>12514117
>>12514262
WTF?

[Anonymous No.12514400]

>>12514362
I think the message is it will never be a legitimate currency

[Anonymous No.12514414]

>>12514400
In this case, he should contact the Monero Corporation, and send a email to their CEO asking this question.

[Anonymous No.12514429]

>>12514414
Not sure they have a support number chief. But as an example, in Australia, you would be hard pressed to get any adoption by merchants without AML/CTF shit in place

[Anonymous No.12514443]

>>12514429
ah yes, Australia: the pioneers of technology

[Anonymous No.12514457]

>>12510585
Monero is centralized around a few volunteer devs that are rich from their original bytecoin scam. The devs want to scale using lightning and its a fucking joke. A true privacy coin will scale on chain and be decentralized. Fuck that shitcoin. Fuck fluffypony, he controls the whole project and he's a fat dumbass.

[Anonymous No.12514469]

I want to put 300K euros in Monero. How can I do it without revealing mi ID? I have it in cash

[Anonymous No.12514471]

>>12514443
Lol, we have near instant payments with NPP.
Oh and are you still signing for credit card transactions?

Laws aren't technology moron

[Anonymous No.12514506]

set buy orders in $30-35 range

[Anonymous No.12514574]

>>12513459
No they’re not. I checked the darknet sites and none of the vendors accept Monero. They are literally the perfect audience to be using Monero but they don’t. Why? Because normals care about liquidity more than privacy.

I don’t like public ledgers but I can’t make investment decisions based on what gives me a boner. It’s as retarded as some normaltrash buying stock in a beer company because the company makes their favorite beer. The market matters. The world doesn’t revolve around your ego.

[Anonymous No.12514581]

>>12514574
They don't because they're CIA

[Anonymous No.12514614]

Usability is certainly an issue but the main problem I think Monero is going through now is the internal blowup over Kovri which seems to be not happening and now contingency plans put in place.

It seems to be because the guy who headed it has mismanaged the project clearly and it isn't ready after all this time along with other contributors who worked on the project, from what I can understand of the shitstorm. And on top of that, he is offering a new bigger Kovri replacement and asking for funding on that, which is just a giant WTF out of nowhere when he hasn't finished Kovri and doesn't want to because he feels it isn't viable but then kept working on Kovri anyways. Whole thing is a mess and I hope the coin doesn't split the dev community because of it.

[Anonymous No.12514621]

>>12514469
localmonero.co. (not .com)

[Anonymous No.12514673]

>>12514581
>>12514574
>no they are not

[Anonymous No.12514682]

>>12514673
looks like no one is accepting XMR, time to dump this shitcoin, sucks :^)

[Anonymous No.12514794]

>>12514614
It's frustrating because according to him he's like "95% done" but just sees it as a dead end at this point so he wants to give up on it.

It doesn't really make any sense. Monero has never been perfect and to say that Kovri, in it's "not good enough for anonimal" state is worse than having nothing at all is retarded on his part. The guy got funding, he should finish the project, whether he believes it's as good as Sekreta or whatever or not. They'll get it sorted out, just frustrating that they got so close and now this happens.

[Anonymous No.12514819]

>>12513332
>meme


LOL nigger, this is why they kidnapped some rich bitch demanding Monero as ransome? That's a nice meme, faggot.

[Anonymous No.12514829]

>GUI wallet sucks
>Can't even utilize CTOR, Graphene, thinblocks or any block propagation tool because the txo set is unknowable

SHIT
COIN

[Anonymous No.12514861]

>>12511123

> does not know about zedwallet

imagine this anons

[Anonymous No.12514867]

>>12514829
>Can't even utilize a bunch of shit that doesn't really matter for Monero
How can Monero keep being so based?

[Anonymous No.12514881]

>>12514867
>Block propagation doesn't matter for a BLOCK chain

[Anonymous No.12514925]

>>12514794

I don't honestly care what happens in the end since I think this drama is relatively small compared to the shitstorms other coins have had but the whole thing about him not wanting to cooperate with the core team now about the project, and wanting to only interacting with his donors, is a problem since he is being explicitly abrasive to the people who he doesn't want to interact.

One of the big things that was never resolved explicitly to this point is when contributors add to an FFS, is it direct to the proposer? Because to fund an FFS, which I have done, you send to a wallet that is handled by what is essentially the core team so technically, he has to answer to the core team which I think is appropriate given how you can't track down everyone who donated and people may not want to reveal themselves for trying to direct something they didn't want to get involved with in the first place so I feel like the core team should have authority here, with individual contributors being able to voice their concerns as well with the core team.

I ultimately think it was sad that Monero wasn't ready for conflict resolution of this magnitude and this situation is exposing a lot of flaws. Hopefully they get past it.

[Anonymous No.12514960]

>>12514673
>>12514682

thanks sir i just market sold all my stack

[Anonymous No.12514993]

>>12514925
They won't java, i2pd and c and cpp code being inserted into monero code as a routing implementation of whatever the fuck they want to call it this week will certainly kill it off.

There is so many holes in that shit they'll have to rename monero to swiss or something because those languages are pretty fucking broken from a security perspective and you will be spending the better part of a decade of using that kind of shit.

the only way out of this shit is to keep monero and kovri as separate applications, because that's what they are, one cryptocurrency and one router.

[Anonymous No.12515002]

>>12514829
>the best GUI wallet of all the crypto currencies
>"GUI wallet sucks"

Single digit I.Q. confirmed.

[Anonymous No.12515024]

>>12514829
a decentralized technology requires some degree of technical knowledge to use it, if it didnt it would be centralized around the authority who makes it easy for normies to use :)

[Anonymous No.12515046]

>>12515024

Zcoin is easier to use and technically superior. Poor monero cucks

[Anonymous No.12515051]

>>12515046
its also centralized, devfee'd and uses ((( trusted setup )))

oh and
>igotrobbedbutton.png
>canmakeitharderforcriminals.png

[Anonymous No.12515066]

>>12515051

>trusted setup
Until the switch to elliptic curve groups
>Dev fee
Another meme fud that people repeat. Who cares?
>canmakeitharderofrcriminals
You're thinking of zcash

[Anonymous No.12515086]

>>12514443
you should read before you talk anon
>Black-box flight recorders
>Ultrasound
>Power-boards
>Bionic ears
>Multi-focal contact lenses
>WiFi
>Gene silencing
>Scramjets
>Robotic Visual Horizon
>Quantum computing
all proudly Aussie-made

what has your country made recently?

[Anonymous No.12515273]

>>12514925
>I ultimately think it was sad that Monero wasn't ready for conflict resolution
Agreed, I think they're working on ways to move past it. Nothing set in stone yet but it looks like they may just go ahead and implement (or maybe, make compatible with) a version of tor-i2p that is specifically not part of anonimal's work on Kovri, as a temporary measure to get "something" related to IP privacy integrated into Monero. I can't say I understand the ins and outs of it, but that's what I gather from the most recent updates. Whether or not that's a good thing, who knows.

I think in the future the FFS is going to undergo a major revision because of this in which much more detailed checkpoints are going to need to be hit in order to actually receive funding. There is no way any of this goes down if he wasn't already fully funded. Essentially, the core team trusted this guy with a bunch of Monero to finish the project that was proposed and he has told them to fuck off. It's obviously not the way FFS is supposed to work.

[Anonymous No.12515297]

>LA Justina and her merry band of redditards
based anonimal

[Anonymous No.12515389]

>>12515066
>dev fee
>"Who cares?"

HEE HEEEE HEEEEEEYYYYYY

[Anonymous No.12515488]

>>12515086
Here in Canada we outlawed misusing someone's pronouns.

[Anonymous No.12515497]

>>12510585
I tried to set up an xmr wallet and it is the worst fucking shit. What a fucking garbage trash fire. Just gave up and left the shit on the exchange.

[Anonymous No.12515636]

>>12511086
You don't have to sync the entire blockchain to use it.

[Anonymous No.12515692]

>>12514673
What market is this?

[Anonymous No.12515705]

>>12515488
we are working on making cunt the mandatory pronoun in Australia

[Anonymous No.12515800]

>>12515692
wallstreet, deepdotweb

[Anonymous No.12516152]

>>12511185
Did my research!
Join the discord and see the truth!
Blur is a moon mission!

[Anonymous No.12516189]

>>12511835
>normies giving a shit
You do understand that the people who post here, including the both of us, are the absolute worst possible judges of normie behaviour, right? R..right?

[Anonymous No.12516214]

>>12515488
Kek