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Ok I’m convinced you can’t use a stable coin but don’t see why nodes can’t use ETH for staking. Is it because ETH doesn’t have the transfer and call function? Doesn’t seem like that could be a big deal. I just don’t see the need for the token to exist besides it being used for a fundraising mechanism. Using a stable coin doesn’t make sense because stable coins need to rely on decentralized oracles but I don’t see why nodes can’t stake ETH for collateral.
Would it be because if ETH agents 51%ed then the entire chainlink network would be toast? But if that’s the case chainlink would be useless as it won’t have any smart contracts to feed data to on the ETH main chain.
Can’t use DAI because stable coins rely on decentralized oracles but using ETH would work fine. The volatility wouldn’t be an jssue bc link will be just as volatile

>> No.12509283

>>12509276
>LINK token has 0 intrinsic value
lol not true at all they are like 50 cents rn

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>>12509276

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>>12509276
Shut up faggot, we're pumping.

>> No.12509305

>>12509276
Nobody really care what you see, this topic has been beat to death, either invest or GTFO and shut up.

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>>12509276
He's back again!
top kek

>> No.12509389

>>12509292
Link is pumping yet the token could possibly be worthless go figure. I just don’t see why you can’t use eth

>> No.12509400

>>12509283
Underrated

>> No.12509406

The value is the network and the security it provides. The network runs on Link. Therefore Link has value.

>> No.12509409

>>12509276
Link was destroyed on that date (July 17 - 2018) and since then NO ONE has come with an answer to this issue.

This breaks Link at a fundamental level.

>> No.12509414

>>12509389

>I don't see why you can't use Eth so Link is worthless

Go fucking make it using Eth then and see where that gets you

>> No.12509416

Just like all crypto currencies?

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>>12509276

>> No.12509489

>>12509276
Fucking disgusting newfags, newlinkers, and nolinkers finally starting to question their idiocy make me sick.

Literally two seconds on google and you’ll find articles about Chainlink in Forbes, MIT Technology Review, reports on CNBC, hours and hours of talks on YouTube... warosu has over a YEAR of serious in depth discussion about everything to do with Chainlink, dissecting every last detail... there are thousands words long Medium and blog posts explaining Chainlink from start to finish...
And you want to be spoonfed a personal reply, tailored just for you? Typed out for you, personally? Um no sweetie. There’s a reason you got zero decent replies and that’s because we refuse to spoonfeed newlinkers who are too lazy to type into google. We spent a year researching this shit every single day and holding even through painful dumps to 20c. And you show up demanding info? Can you see why no one wants to give it to you easy?

You have to have gone through this experience, the months and months of reading and searching and learning, to truly understand, and to get to the point where you know it inside and out and will never sell. If someone types you a few lines, you’ll read them, you may buy some LINK, but you’ll just sell sooner or later for whatever reason because you didn’t really KNOW anything. So it’s pointless to explain it to you anyway

>REMINDER:
Do not spoonfeed the newlinkers - the ones who make low effort posts demanding tailored research just for their little pathetic low IQ queries. Why not? Well,
1) They don't deserve it.
and
2) They wouldn't understand anyway.

It's just a waste of time. Seriously. You can type out a personal, bespoke tailored reply for this newlinker/nolinker scum but it will have NO lasting impact as you have to have gone through last year with the true marines to fully understand the project and its implications and potentiaL

>> No.12509500

>>12509489
Morality link syndrome is cancerous and weak. Brainwashed scum.

>> No.12509509

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER

DO NOT UNDER ESTIMATE THE POWER OF POSITIVE THOUGHT! ESPECIALLY COLLECTIVE POSITIVE THOUGHT!!

THIS SHIT IS GOING TO REACH $1,000 EASILY! HOLD THAT THOUGHT AND VISUALIZE IT IN YOUR MIND EVERYDAY AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE STARTING NOW AND IT WILL MANIFEST INTO REALITY. DO IT! I'M NOT JOKING!

VISUALIZE AS OFTEN AND AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE!

>> No.12509569

>>12509489
I can feel the weight of your bags from thousands of miles away

>> No.12509599

>>12509569
I CAN FEEL IT COMING IN THE AIR TONIGHT, OH LORD

>> No.12509607

>>12509283
Intrinsic value vs market value dumb fren

>> No.12509629

>>12509489
How dumb do you feel knowing that I have over 250k Links and I don’t give a fuck whether this shitcoin does anything or is just a pump and dump. Why don’t you get a life faggot, you’re gonna be pathetic whether link moons or not. HAHAHAHAHA, fucking loser

>I’m a link marine!!!

>> No.12509641

>>12509500
Checked

You answered your own question fren. Linkers are brainwashed sheep who can’t answer a simple question like “why does this network need a native token?” They are pathetic and delusional, and will soon lose all of their money. You don’t want to associate with these people

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>>12509607
AND IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT
FOR ALL MY LIFEE
OH LORD

>> No.12509646

this is amazing

>> No.12509667

>>12509414
>Go fucking solve the decentralised orcle "problem" with any token you choose including LINK
>Doesn't realise the problem isn't really a problem
>Doesn't realise the problem can't be solved
>Doesn't realise most of the world already knows this and doesn't care about his shitty scamcoin

>> No.12509681

>>12509389
You can’t use eth because Sergey says so
Chainlink network doesn’t run with ETH. It runs on Link. It doesn’t matter what your retarded opinion on the matter is. It doesn’t change the facts. The Chainlink network uses the link token. Regardless of whether you think that’s a good idea or not.

>> No.12509692

>>12509569
>bags
What bags? Link just hit a new ATH lmao

Anyone who’s been holding and buying the dips is up on LINK lmao.

What bags? Lmao

The only linkies who are holding bags are those who bought at $1 and didnt bring their cost average down by buying the dips to sub 30c.

I first bought in at $1 but I kept buying all the way down and now I’m in profit lmao.

>> No.12509696

>>12509276
Oh, it's (you) again newfag. Either buy link or don't. We're not going to spoonfeed you no matter how many threads you make.

>> No.12509704

>>12509641
It’s funny because literally no one knows how any of this works nor how it will because it has no real world applications right now, yet everyone here likes to pretend they are cryptography experts and visionary entrepreneurs hahaha, it’s hilarious. I especially like the ones that are clearly poor as fuck and actually get angry when you remind them of how retarded they are for hoping a crypto token will make them rich after there was already a huge international bubble. I dumped half my XLM profits from last year into Link and have like over $100k worth which I know is way more than most of the faggots here that revolve their lives around this shit...and I really couldn’t care what happens at this point since I’ve broken back even on my initial investment and have stop losses this time if it dumps again.

>> No.12509730

>>12509692
Link definitely isn’t at an ATH unless you’re measuring in useless currencies like bitcoin, Argentinian peso, or bolivar...

>> No.12509747 [DELETED] 

>>12509704
Cringe

>> No.12509752

>>12509692
>lmao
>lmao
>lmao
>lmao

There, those are your bags.

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>>12509704
CAN YOU FEEL IT
COMING IN THE AIR TONIGHT
OH LORD, OH LORD

>> No.12509801

>>12509681
So link is like fiat and only valuable because WE CHOOSE for it to be? But could just as easily use ETH which would make things a lot less complex but decided to implement a separate token that will have its own set of economic variables? Doesn’t seem rational

>> No.12509872

>>12509629
>im less of a loser because i don't care if i lose
>heh, better luck next time kid

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I'd just like to take a moment to announce that the people who run the chainlink discord are all actual homosexuals.

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>>12509899

FUCK CHUCK

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>>12509509
you are a MANIAC

>> No.12509949

The intrinsic value for me is to swing it and make bank

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>>12509923
Fuck Chuck, fuck Timo, Fuck the literally who mods who never post and especially fuck the one admin who unironically posts about kek and meme magic in twenty fucking nineteen.

>> No.12510105

>>12509988
Discord is basically reddit without the up boating.

Back on topic: your link node already need to have ETH but instead of just using it as well for payment they decided to introduce a new token.

>> No.12510352

>>12510105
Ok

>> No.12510412

i aint selling my bags nigger

>> No.12510490

legendary 10 year bitcoin miner here... anyone with over 130iq knows chainlink is a scam and worthless... but most of you on anons are morons and i hate scammers more than morons so thats why im warning you

>> No.12510491

Crazy the node has to have eth to PAY for gas but you can’t use it to put down as a security deposit

>> No.12510516

>>12509569
It’s s copypasta fren

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>>12509899
This. FUCK TIMO

>> No.12510534

>>12509276

None of these coins will work if their value isn't stable(ish). It's not just LINK it's everything else too. This ponzi shit is nice for making the early guys rich but just doesn't work for any actual use-case

>> No.12510541

>>12509936
dude... SO ARE YOU
you are in every fucking thread saying the exact same shit

"the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result"

>> No.12510560

>>12510534
Theoretically could you treat link like a commodity and then have futures as a hedge? It makes no sense why there’s a token. Even the chainlink node is required to have ETH. But now they can’t receive it for delivering data...wtf?

>> No.12510571

>>12509276
Eth would work if Link was dedicated to a single platform - but what if Zil or EOS etc actually want to make use of it? Chainlink although currently tied to Ethereum for obvious reasons is its own platform, and therefore needs it's own separate unit of account and economic model.

>> No.12510574

>>12510541

>"the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result"

Lol, doing the same shit over and over again is how you get good at something actually but ok. You sound like you spend too much time on reddit.

>> No.12510591

>>12510541
Part of the copypasta

>> No.12510594

>>12509283
This. Get rekt late adopters.

>> No.12510731

>>12509276

As one anon in this thread said, do not feed the nolinkers. This has been talked about to death and you should do all this research yourself about why tokens even exist in the first place. I will help you briefly but the burden is on you to dyor: it is actually a good thing for a coin to do one thing very well and have its value pegged very directly to the service it powers.

Tokens makes Proof of Stake work best, ensures a stable economy surrounding a PARTICULAR service, and incentives good behavior as a node within that service. Good behavior as a participant in the network (making the network more valuable) ensures and appreciates your network-specific assets (the LINK) and encourages further good behavior. By tying the value of the token ONLY to the functionality of and demand for the network, it incentivizes LINK holders to act in the interest of the network. If you make the network more valuable and in demand by acting as a good node, you increase the value of the LINK you hold, which snowballs until LINK is super valuable and bad behavior is extremely risky. On the other hand, an asset like ETH whose value is not tied only to the value of the network is not largely affected by good or bad behavior; it does not properly incentivize good behavior in the POS system and creates an unstable economy surrounding the service.

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I just don’t understand why there’s a link token...eth could work..

>> No.12512071

>>12510574
>replying to pasta
hi newfag, looks like you are the one who needs to go back

>> No.12512075

>>12509409
Bump for importance.

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>>12509276
Oh look it's this thread again
This is why no one ever helps you anon, because you shit on your own doorstep.

>> No.12512114

>>12509389
You can make decentralized oracles run with eth but then it would be tailor made for your smart contract. If you made a general purpose protocol for rewarding eth to ppl for running nodes and answering API calls, and build in a reputation system and all that, you might as well build another layer with its own token. Why do you think eth supports building tokens on its network? Because sometimes it just makes sense to do so.

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>>12509629
>I have $125k invested and I don't care
>I will never offer proof of my claim
>Checkmate faggots

>> No.12512169

I'm not going to bother reading all the obvious trash replies. If anyone gave a serious and concise reply could someone point me to it?

>> No.12512192

>>12512169
No. It's a scam, filter all link threads and never buy it.

>> No.12512267

>>12509276
This shit has been discussed to death for the past year.
Fuck off newfag.

>> No.12512293

>>12509607
Nothing has intrinsic value outside of basic food, basic shelter, and water.

>> No.12512358

i sold 250k link at 8k sats and then went all in on ethereum at 157 dollars. then sold for a loss at 123 dollars. now i lost over half my stack coz of this lol...just kill me already. i wanna die

>> No.12512828

>>12509283
>in total

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>>12512071

>> No.12512866

>>12509489
saved

>> No.12513028

>>12509276
Yes, they could have used ETH, the problem is they own 300 million LINK, which means they're incentivised to give that token utility moreso than any other coin or token.

>> No.12513095

>>12512169
I can’t find one either hence why I made the thread

>> No.12513119

>>12512169
See the hundreds of threads and thousands of posts on this topic over the past year.

>> No.12513138

>>12513095
As if this uncertainy is only open question regarding LINK actually turing into reality? You hear it die-hard old fags wont spoonfeed you anything and therefore only come up with baits/trolls answers.

Just buy, or dont. this whole thing runs in circles.

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>>12510731
Good explanation but please, we need to stop feeding the nolinkers.

>> No.12513536

>>12513474
Why would I care if I was I no linker

>> No.12513606

>>12510105
Blockchain agnostic so they wouldn't be locked into ETH only, brainlet.

>> No.12513615

>>12510490
Right, successful and well respected individuals like Ari Juels, Gavin Woods and Tom Gonser are supporting a scam to rip off a bunch of neets on BIZ. Web3, Kaleido and Swift are all in on it as well. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

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>>12510525
Based. Timo is a twink SJW kraut tard who thinks he has to shill link for it to moon.

>> No.12513797

>>12510571
So I can use my LINK tokens on zil and EOS? Oh wait no I can't because they're ethereum tokens

>> No.12513875

>>12513797
Linktards will deny this: muh blockchain agnostic token.
Right, it can pull data from wherever, that doesn't mean it can operate on any platform. The absolute state of bizlinkers.

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People in slack don’t even know if they are “investors”. They think this because they look at the token as a method of “fundraising” not a method of utility.. they see themselves as “investors” bc they feel they helped fund the project by participating in the ico instead of looking at as if they’re buying equity into the protocol itself.

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>>12509489
Based

>> No.12514590

>>12512169
>>12510731