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let's say in 5 years?

>> No.12470411

Doesn't scale. Can't even offload to second layer. No dice.

>> No.12470441

>>12470411
Are you retarted? Fucking Dero golddigger

> What are adjustable block sizes?
>What is Kovri?

>> No.12470460
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>> No.12470465

payment/feature coins/tokens will never "flip" anything, they're stop-gap solutions, and especially in the case of monero, use legacy methodology that is already creating too much baggage to deal with when trying to transition into a base-layer second world.

>> No.12470470

>>12470407
Yes, in 5 years you will see monero at current bitcoin prices. This is one of the few alts actually worth buying

>> No.12470472

>>12470441
>> What are adjustable block sizes?
Not a viable scaling solution if you want to stay decentralized.

>>What is Kovri?
Glorified onion router that has nothing to do with scaling.

>> No.12470489

>>12470472
kill yourself Dero faggot

>> No.12470514

>>12470489
Don't own any Dero. Cope.

>> No.12470540

>>12470407
Monero still can be today a better investing than BTC while staying below BTC marketcap. Different use cases. Hell, at this point almost any coin in the top 200 is.

>> No.12470548

>>12470407
No, it can't.
However, it is a good investment and a solid coin.

>> No.12470551

>>12470465
second layer is a meme. just look a buttcorns LN. If your gonna use tokens instead of coins you might as well just use eth tokens.

>> No.12470598

>>12470548
What could be exactly one XMR be worth in 2023? what do you think fren?

>> No.12470600

>>12470407
it's famous for being good for tax evasion, so I can definitely see it going up once BTC dies completely and institutional investors will be looking for the next thing to rig

I don't know if it will ever flip bitcoin, but it has the potential to at least flip ethereum. It's already been proven to be a thing that works in black markets, so unlike most shitcoins it has value

>> No.12471165

>>12470600
you think it can go past 6000 dollar per coin?

>> No.12471272

>>12470465
The base layer should have fungibility and privacy. Monero is the base layer.

>> No.12471280

>>12470472
>Thinking a decentralized system can scale for the masses when it's ultimately bound to the weakest node

>> No.12471284

le
toucan
has
arrived

>> No.12471805

ZCASH

>> No.12471928

>>12470472
And what block size has to do with decentralization?

>> No.12471941

>>12471805
10% DEV FEE
OPTIONAL PRIVACY
TRUSTED SETUP

>> No.12471975
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>>12471941
There are rumours about backdoors in zcash. 'Ethical backdoors' for law enforcement.

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>>12471941
>>12471975
Not rumors... He pretty much admitted it

>> No.12472064

>>12470407
Maybe, unless some other coin gains enough traction and has lower fees and is normal fag friendly. It's possible xmr could replace btc in the near future especially with fees being so damn high and the mining community lacking profit motivation and reassurance on price.

>> No.12472112

>>12470407
It probably could never flip bitcoin because of how entrenched bitcoin's community is, first mover advantage, and all that stuff. On its technical merits though, Monero is probably the only alt that "deserves" to flip bitcoin, it just probably won't happen.

>>12470411
>Doesn't scale.
Nothing has really needed to scale at all yet. Practically nobody is using crypto. At the protocol level, adjustable blocksizes technically do allow for pretty good scaling though. Not sure how that would lead to centralization in the near future.

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>>12470598
>>12471165
listen frend.
IF it flips Ethereum. it will be a minimum 7750 dollar coin for one XMR. if we use the marketcap of Ethereum at ALL TIME HIGH

>> No.12472188

>>12470407
literally dumbest investment to make.
BTC is guaranteed to do more multiples in current value than XMR.
Idiots don't get SoV vs obfuscated transaction coin value.

>> No.12472304

>>12472188
That's a pretty big guarantee when Bitcoin has a marketcap 100 times the size of Monero.

>> No.12472321

>>12472188
SoV is just code for a pyramid scheme, when your coin has no utility and it's only function is to "go up." I wish all you snakeoil fags would see that and know that's why normies aren't eating it up. It's everyones first question.
>i'll buy now and if 5 other guys buy I can sell to the 5th for twice as much

>> No.12472363

Wouldn't bet on your shitcoin. FluffyPony is, in addition to being a greedy fuck, a retard. But it's easier to deal with brainlets, so, whatever.

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>>12472363
Fluffy is no longer on the project.

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>>12472188

>> No.12472526

monero needs 'multihash' or even 'multichain' to successfully be asic resistant. Picking a deterrent algorithm then forking whenever someone gets the balls to actually make the asic is dumb and will drive monero into the dirt eventually.

>> No.12472578

>>12470598
.4 btc

>> No.12472620
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>>12470407
Did mommy drop you when you were a baby?

>> No.12472638

>>12472578

If that happens I would literally make it, wish me luck anons

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>>12470407

Crypto newfags have been burned in 2018 , let em first forget about it and then lets do another circle with peak ATH in 2022ish? With new money of these Zoomers getting in Job World and bringing in Fresh Money.

Sincerely yours

Pepe

>> No.12473096

Not a snowball's chance in hell.
Only a transparent coin.
Clandestine coins will NEVER be mainstream.

>> No.12473145
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lost my 100XMR in 2016 because i was fucking impatient stupid short sided shitfag and sold them for nothing. And when they pamped to 300$ i was desperate and almost shitted my pants for making mistakes after mistakes..
Now, its like a gift to buy at these prices.Im accumulating them sweeties back as much as i can. already bought 30XMR, 70XMR left.

I promised to come back. This time is different. I will not lose you this time. I will hodl you.

>> No.12473299

>>12473145
At least you aren't the guy who dumped 100,000 XMR in a video in 2015.

>> No.12473425

>>12473299
>tfw you were browsing /biz/ when people were shilling monero under 100 sats
>you looked into it and thought it was just another shitcoin
>chose NOT to buy it
>stop browsing /biz/ for 3 years
>$500+ monero

this is the worst feel ever bros, it haunts my soul. retardation so palpable it imitates physical pain.

>> No.12474280

>>12470407
LOL monero...
Fucking cuckero's

I'm 70% ZCASH and 30% Dero.

Eat shit, monero cucks

>> No.12474288

>>12473299
Do you have a link?

>> No.12474303

>>12470407
it won't flip bitcoin, but there's a lot of upside to becoming #2

>> No.12474316
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>>12474280
Damn, you literally hold the two worst privacy coins ever, the optional private with 10% dev fee and trusted setups one, and the other premined centralized shady scam I'm really sorry, but there's no salvation for you. Congratulations.

>> No.12474348

>>12474288
Couldn't find it anymore. Eventually, someone post it in biz.

>> No.12474397

You really think everyone invested all their money into these coins that are the highest in market cap including JP morgan and microsoft because it's a guess and gamble, No. If you haven't invested in BTC and ETH in 5 years it will be too late.

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tick tick niggas

>> No.12475128

>>12470407

Absolutely not. Governments will shut down these privacy coins in a heartbeat if there's a whiff of possibility that it's being used criminally... which is the biggest use case so far.

>> No.12475151

>>12473145
Based

>> No.12475215

>>12474416
what's that?

>> No.12475579

>>12475215
How much XMR is rewarded to miners per block. 2019 will see a massive drop in xmr inflation.

https://imgur.com/a/De0G2

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>>12475128
>Governments will shut down these privacy coins in a heartbeat

>> No.12475928

>>12472188

Yea, stop buying monero retards. You're not allowed to buy until I accumulate 200 of them

>> No.12476985

>>12472321
You’re one who believes money needs to be fast and have high throughput. Being a SoV is the utility. Being immutable to change is the utility.

>> No.12477151

>>12473425
lol monero hit like 9700 sats for like a few days and that was the lowest it ever was.

Damn shitcoins always been expensive.

>> No.12477221

>>12475128
Government is too busy shutting down itself

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>>12475128
Le Goobernemannn !1!!

>> No.12477325

>>12470407

No, because nobody HODLs Monero. They just trade in and out of it within a few days to wash their dirty transactions in BTC and other crypto. The only crypto with true "first mover" advantage is BTC. It's the Microsoft Windows of crypto and, like Windows, it's not giving that advantage up despite being outdone technologically by a bunch of other coins. Monero has a future and is a good coin to buy, but it's never going to be over 4 figures USD.

>> No.12477358

>>12477325
This anon is right, monero is one of the few alts that are actually in use, which is precisely why it won't moon very hard. It's used to wash dirty money...nobody stores their wealth via xmr.

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>>12477325
>No, because nobody HODLs Monero
>>12477358
>nobody stores their wealth via xmr.

lol ok, check the richlist kids
https://moneroblocks.info/richlist

>> No.12477432

>>12477358
Yeah I'd much prefer to store my wealth in full public view. That way I can save on the cost of expensive signaling costs like lambos. I'm not concerned with literally everyone trying to extort me for it.

>> No.12477483

>>12477325
>t. can't even hardfork to change block size

>> No.12477577

In 5 years Monero will be number 50 in market cap.

Why? Because it won't be legal.

>> No.12477687

>>12475579
Wouldn't the dev team just halve the block reward like eth does?

>> No.12477697

>>12477577
>t said the same about BTC in 2011

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>>12477325
>The only crypto with true "first mover" advantage is BTC.
>It's the Microsoft Windows of crypto
The delusions of a bitcoiner.

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>>12473145
based and patrician

>> No.12477910

>>12477325
>>12477358
This is such a retarded, short sighted opinion. Monero will moon as it hits tail emissions and then price will stabilize enough for it to function as a private store of value. The idea that nobody is speculating on Monero like they are on Bitcoin as a store of value is idiotic. Yes, it's more volatile right now, but give it a few years and this won't be the case. I'm not saying it will come anywhere close to passing Bitcoin, just debunking the idea that literally "nobody" holds Monero.

>> No.12479051

>>12470407

One of very few cryptographically secure coins, and as far as I can tell, that's the only thing that will matter in a few years.

>> No.12479102

>>12479051
i'm going then all-in

>> No.12479487

>>12472440
Why’d satoshi say this?

>> No.12480004

>>12470407
Exactly zero in 5 years, replaced by DERO.

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>>12472471
Did you mean this? DERO will be new gold.

>> No.12480067

>>12474348
>>12474288

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ofpaF5pkE8

>> No.12480069

>>12480004
>>12480041
get lost, dero fuck face

>> No.12480077

>>12477577
>In 5 years Monero will be number 50 in market cap.
Wrong, it will fall off the list as a dead coin.

>> No.12480086

>>12480077

people like you are saying the same for almost 5 years now

>> No.12480100

>>12480067
hahah what a fucking idiot. I hope he hanged himself.

>> No.12480380

>>12480069
Don't worry anon once dero becomes more irrelevant and slips into obscurity it'll die a slow death just like the pajeets shilling it.