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Is this unironically a good car, or german equivalents are better?

>> No.12336987

>>12336970
Had my Model 3 Performance just under a month. Teslas are the best cars money can buy hands down. If getting a Model S you may want to wait for the refresh expected this year.

>> No.12336992

>>12336970
In terms of technology Tesla is superior. If you’re talking about fit and finish then German cars are better.

>> No.12337007

>>12336992
What about reliability

>> No.12337053

>>12337007
Teslas are no doubt more reliable due to the simple fact that they have less moving parts and less maintenance. Even hybrid cars like priuses are considered one of the most reliable in the car industry.

>> No.12337064

>>12336970
I absolutely hate the interior to the point that I will never buy one but I guess apart from that it is a good electric car

>> No.12337088
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>>12336987

What about all those that catch on fire?

>> No.12337113
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>Teslas are well built
Explain these panel gaps then

>> No.12337131

american cars are dogshit compared to german and japanese. it doesnt matter whether elon musk or mustang produces it.

>> No.12337156

>>12337088
Checked but those are Model S cars made prior to 2013 in most cases. Model 3s have better battery protection and thermal management. Of course time will tell and nothing is ever perfect. Everyone owes it to themselves to drive these cars imo.

>> No.12337158

>>12336970
Tesla is the bitcoin of the electric vehicle market, it has first mover advantage and people like crazy CEOs somehow.
Its build quality just isn't good and when you are inside the car it feels like a car half the price, other cars with the same pricetag feel way more luxurious desu.

>> No.12337168

I'd probably buy one of the new electric cars from a traditional car brand instead. Both Audi and porshe are coming out with electric models. And those brands are always a dream to drive.

>> No.12337172

>>12337113
Early panel gaps were atrocious without a doubt.
Mine was built in July and aside from the passenger door sitting a bit low requiring the door to be slammed harder than normal, my car looks excellent all around. I've seen some in person made 6 months earlier that I would have rejected.

>> No.12337180

>>12337007
Lexus for reliability.

>> No.12337181

>>12337113
Jesus christ...

>> No.12337189

>>12337168
Meh I've had an Audi A4 blow a transmission at 84K and so have thousands of others at the exact same mileage. No recall. Fuck Audi. Also good luck to them having no electric vehicle experience. My Tesla drives like a dream also and it can drive itself.

>> No.12337232

>>12337053
what r u smoking man? teslas are the least reliable cars on the road right now, quality control is like the us auto idustry in the 60s

>> No.12337767

>>12337232
Not gonna make it

>> No.12337793

>>12337131
Oh no no no no no no no

G*rman """"luxury""""" vehicles are unreliable dogshit. Over engineered with planned obsolescence in mind. Lexus is the go to for people who aren't posturing niggers/turks/soccer moms. Literally the most reliable brand in the world.

Never compare German filth to Japan's or even americas auto industry.

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>>12337088
doesn't matter
worth it

>> No.12337834
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>a bunch of disgusting oil lobby bootlickers

this thread in a nutshell

>> No.12337848

>>12337793

>Lexus
>Literally the most reliable brand in the world

Literally a toyota

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus

Baffled that someone is this much of a brainlet. Really do consider sterilization, anon.

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>>12336970
Teslas are soiboi garbage.

Get an ICE car if you're a real man.

>> No.12337904

>>12337848
Yeah I know that. Guess what the second most reliable brand is? Toyota. Corollas and Camarys are bullet proof vehicles that regularly last over 250k miles with maintenance.

Toyota pioneered legendary quality control and manufacturing processes that set standards across a variety of industries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_manufacturing

>> No.12338378

I'm looking for a large SUV to haul me and my friends and gear to go skiing in winter months. I've rented Suburban and Tahoe, they're okay but for the size they're actually not too roomy. Anyone recommend anything?

>> No.12338466

I just put the payment down for a G80 V8. Best car for the money imo. I don't like electryshit because I'd rather drive a car, not a wheeled dildo. I wanted a Lexus GS but they don't put V8s in those, also looked at a Chevy SS but the interior was crap.

>> No.12338514

Nothing better than a BMW. If you like driving then get one. All you faggots talk that talk about reliability probably don’t even know what a 17mm socket is kek

>> No.12338536

>>12338466
Lmao you bought a fucking Hyundai. Kys

>much 400hp

Kek still in a Hyundai holy fuck dude what fucking retard would buy a Hyundai let alone a brand new one. You must be dumber than a box of rocks holy shit lmao kys

>> No.12338540

>>12336992
>german
>better fit and finish

About as good as American luxury cars.

>> No.12338546

>>12338540
> American
> luxury cars

Pick one

>> No.12338560

>>12336970
> or german equivalents are better
German equivalents fall apart the day after the warranty expires. Basically zero exceptions.

>> No.12338562

>>12338540
lol

>> No.12338569

>>12338536
Korean cars are far more reliable than G*rman cars. T

>> No.12338601
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>>12338546
>>12338562
Foolish eurozombies, heads in the sand. It's the current year.

>> No.12338625

>>12338601
Lincoln? Holy fuck probably worse than Hyundai. American doesn’t make luxury cars, sorry to break the news to you.

>> No.12338635

>>12338601
>FWD

>> No.12338643

>>12338514
You literally can't even check your own oil with a dipstick. They replaced such a simple fool proof method with a complicated electronic sensor that costs thousands of dollars to replace when it fails and you have to go in to a shop to have it read. And this is just one example of their anticonsumer overengineering practices.

Literally the Apple Computers of cars.

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>>12338635
u dum

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>>12336970

The German equivalents are better. pic related

>> No.12338691

Europe is king in luxury products, that includes cars. Kings of luxury exports.

>> No.12338696

>>12338635
>implying it matters on a luxury landbarge car
>not wanting superior fuel efficiency thanks to not having to have a rear axle
>implying FWD isnt better for snow

>> No.12338700

>>12338643
The newest bm’s Are fucking amazing, yeah electrical is going to become an even bigger problem In the future but out of the box, there’s not much that top these machines.
The old beems are where the real fun in at. I have a 97 e36, that thing is bulletproof. Recently bought an s54 with a 6 speed for it, need to drop it in soon . Should be some fun

>> No.12338706

>>12338691
>if I keep repeating it it'll be true

Maybe 30 years ago, but I'd rather buy a vehicle precision built by Japanese robots than banged together by Turks and Somalis

>> No.12338724

>>12338700
Oh yeah, the old German cars are great.

The Mecedes Benz W124 was literally the best car on the market for a decade and was unkillable. Modern Mercedes is going full pants on head retarded with making everything full of failure prone electronics.

>> No.12338751

>>12338706
EUROPE IS KING IN LUXURY EXPORTS

It's a simple fact you dumb brainlet. Ever left your burger suburbia? Deep in the jungles of Africa, SEA or South America and every corner of the world, a rich and corrupt individual is drenched in European luxury products, from his interior furnishings to exterior ones, from his clothes and accessories to his car and some times even his food.

Say it with me loser: LUXURY EXPORTER NUMBER UNO

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>>12338751
calm down

>> No.12338780

>>12336970
Teslas drive nicely
They look like a normal car, not premium
they're utter shit inside

/comfy in my merc

Once the premium brands launch their electric vehicles, Tesla are fucked.

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>>12336970
>buy 3 series
>love it hermagherd no more buying gas lelel
>flat tire
>cant change the tire. Not allowed to
>tire contains special foam
>pay for towing $2000

>> No.12338951

>>12337158
Tldr buy monero

>> No.12339163

>>12338910
>>12338910
>>cant change the tire
Dude this shit pisses me off to no end, are all new cars like this? My mom bought an infiniti last year and all the new models had no spare tires, thankfully the car she got was the previous year model and had one. I was car shopping two years ago and all the new Acura models is the same shit. It blows my mind they think its acceptable. I often drive up to Vermont or New Hampshire where there's less shit around than driving out west, and I'd like to not need a tow in bumfuck VT

>> No.12339189

>>12338601
Tacky af. Americans can't into luxury.

>> No.12339236

>>12338691
And third world imports. The state of California and all its luxurious products has more GDP than most of Europe's countries put together, lol.

>> No.12339277

Tesla>Japanese>Korean>American>>>>German

>> No.12339306

>>12339277
>Korean
>Japanese

Decent if you can only handle a pussies' engine.

>> No.12339307
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>>12339236
That's a failed state imbecile. Staying afloat via ZOGs tech sector.

Only a dumb circumcised slave would brag about that.

>> No.12339344

>>12339306
oh you must drive a lifted truck and have all the hillbillies swooning over you huh?

>> No.12339443

Got my model 3 AWD (non-performace) delivered in late December. already put 1k miles on it, dream to drive, makes all other cars obsolete.

test drove an alfa romeo guilia, merc cla 45 amg, bmw 340i. alfa leads those three but the model 3 awd shits on each.

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>>12339236
Another one, just because you need to be shat on once in a while and know your place slave.

>> No.12339487

>>12336970
Have one. Unironically a piece of shit. Mine is currently in the shop having the drive unit replaced. The loaner they gave me had failure of the sensor system, (it has under 2k miles on it). I'm selling mine and getting an S class plugin. DO NOT BUY A TESLA. THEY ARE SHIT.

>> No.12339523

It’s funny how I get banned for posting about my experience at work but here is a fuckin car thread on biz.

FUCK JANNIES. JANNIES ARE SUBHUMAN SCUM THAT SHOULD BE HUNG IN PUBLIC PLACES FOR ALL TO SEE. IF YOU ARE A JANNY AND READING THIS - EAT SHIT AND DIE. FUCK YOU ID RATHER BE A NIGGER KIKE WITH CEREBRAL PALSY THAN A JANNY

>> No.12339530

>>12339486
>>12339307
I don't even live there, I just think it's hilarious that yurop can't compete with CA, as much of a shithole as it is.

>> No.12339534

>>12339523
All point and laugh at his impotent rage

>> No.12339537

>>12339487
Post a pic of the car w/ timestamp boomer

>> No.12339559

>>12339534
Yes, laugh at the reason why this board fucking sucks. YOURE A KEK TOO JUST LIKE JANNIES

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Anyway, let's get back to how shockingly superior Lincoln has become over such a short time. Obviously not as nice as a Tesla.

>> No.12339637
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I too, enjoy purchasing vehicles that have internet connections and electronically controlled steering, brakes, throttle!

>> No.12339652

>>12336970
They're just so ugly. I especially hate how the doors look. Its basically an autist sled.

>> No.12339660

>>12339609
Anyways, how about you circle jerk about cars on /o/ - the board specifically made for fags like yourself to talk about autos.

>> No.12339683

>>12339660
The kind of car you drive is a big part of business. Communicating image and prestige. You think I drive to work to make shitcoin deals in a Civic?

>> No.12339685

>>12339344
>seething yuropoor mad he has to pay 100 euros for every cubic inch of engine space he has

lmao stay mad

>> No.12339693

>>12338724
I remember growing up dreaming about how cool it would be to drive a 300e as they're called in the states. Legendary car.

>> No.12339696

>>12337172
>knew the car had bad qc before buying
>purchases car anyways and turns out it has deformities
>I'm happy with my car
Imagine cockriding a brand this hard

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Audi E-Tron GT will give Tesla a run for its money.

>> No.12339732

>not driving a diesel truck with a fat gf in the passenger seat
Never gonna make it

>> No.12339790

>>12339718
Why did they slap a 90's name and typeface on the grill?

>> No.12339804

>>12339236
>The state of California has more GDP than most of Europe's countries put together

That's just literally untrue.
California's GSP: $2.496 trillion.
EU's GDP: $17.278 trillion.

>> No.12339808

>>12339530
Not only did the jew take a big fat shit on CA and browned it all up, but also exported their poison to the whole world from there. But like a good circumcised goy that you are, you actually embrace this retard. But it's alright, you pay for your arrogance and stupidity every day. Whenever you look at your non-brown women you die a little bit inside.
Whenever you beat your mutilated meat and realize what they took from you, you die a little bit more.
No amount of Teslas or Lincolns will ever bring you happiness as you have royally fucked by (((European))) nobility.

>> No.12339831

>>12339790
Why not?

>> No.12339899

>>12337848
Are you retarded? Toyota are by far the best car manufacturers in the world across many metrics such as defects / 100 vehicles produced. I worked in one as a plant engineer for a Lexus line and trust me, it’s epic.

Even the contractors I spoke with said other car manufacturers plants they visit pale in comparison to the standards set by Toyota.

People in this thread need to stop lumping manufacturability with car design. Tesla’s have poor manufacturability, it makes sense, they are new. Their cars are very high tech however, and when they finally get their shit together with more experience, they can likely do well (big if).

>> No.12339953

>>12339804
Lol EU poorfag
made you look

>> No.12339987

I dont know, I dont have a car, I will never be able to afford one, I dont even know how they work.

>> No.12339989

>>12339808
Yikes, you seem upset and a bit projecty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIjtjcE2tsk

>> No.12340193

>>12337848
Sure only sandniggers worshipping Volkswagen/BMW or retards like you didn't realize that Toyota is more reliable than german cars.

>> No.12340196

>>12336970
i wouldn't buy a telsa yet, people are still complaining about build quality

>> No.12340214

>>12336987
Based

>> No.12340264

>>12339989
>cope
that's your retarded anglo cousin lmao, serves them right anyway.

>> No.12340292

>>12337904
Tfw first year business.

>> No.12340326

>>12338751
Luxury for sandniggers whose dream is to drive a german car or newly rich chinese who have bad taste and think Dior and Prada is so chic.

All these luxury brands are overpriced shit.

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thoughts?

>> No.12340392
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>>12338601
>>12340346
>choosing a car normies think is cool
>choosing a car sluts think is cool
>choosing a car 4chan thinks is cool
>choosing a car your grandpa thinks is cool

>> No.12340416

>>12338378
SUV are for gay people with tiny dicks

>> No.12340466

>>12336970
For the same price a German ICE is a lot better, especially inside.
Tesla is just the best option if you want an EV. If you don't care about that, ICEs still have the most bang for the buck.

>> No.12340492

>>12340326
kek, the US is the biggest importer of european luxury goods.

I get it you only buy Toyota, it's alright. Maybe next bullrun buddy.

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>>12340392
Now that you mention it, my great grandfather did have a pretty badass Lincoln. Can't remember if it was a Continental or not.

Something like pic related.

>> No.12340524

Toyota master race.

A used <2011 Toyota Corolla is unironically the /biz/ car. If you become a richfag, then upgrade to the 1-3 year old Toyota Camry w/ trim. Anything else is poorfag cope.

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>>12339537
Its in the shop, retard. Learn how to fucking read. Screenshot from the app of current car status. In California it's 1:33 here

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>>12338378
I'd go for a decent GMC Canyon with some solid storage and mount options.

Otherwise Ford SUVs are better than you'd expect.

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>>12340524
The only thing Toyota/Lexus have going for them is reliability. I don't know why but those japs haven't got a clue about style.
Each one of their models looks like a plastic toy car. And what the fuck is it with that ridiculous Lexus grill? Ffs let it die already.

>> No.12340628

>>12336970
Tesla’s are one of the best highway cruisers. If you want something sporty/fun you’re better of getting another brand

>> No.12340637

>>12339899

This. Ever seen those white vans that tradesman drive around? Toyota hiace. Four wheel drives thst can have 500k+ miles- Toyotas. Got an 87 carolla that drives as good as a 2008 mitsubishi lancer with the same amount of KM.

>> No.12340798

>>12340590

>muh aesthetics

I’ll bet your Lincoln looks really cool busted down on the roadside. People who buy cars for looks and prestige are literally the biggest Goyim on the planet.

>> No.12341291

>>12340798
Comfort, fun and prestige are literally the only reasons to buy a car above $15k. There's no reason to go beyond that just for utility.
So yeah, if I'm going to spend more than that on a car it better look nice, feel nice, drive fast and make pussies wet.

>> No.12341581

>>12340492
The US has a lot of new money idiots, big surprise

>> No.12341730

>>12339443
This anon knows.

>> No.12341765

>>12340524
Why a <2011 Corolla?

>> No.12342176

>>12341291
The nips deliver comfort, fun and quality at good value. He is right, prestige is literally a goy tax that buys you nothing more than a feeling, you are like a woman.

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>>12342176
>The nips deliver comfort, fun
Except they don't. And prestige aka social status is real. Jap cars are for poorfags who can't afford nicer cars.
https://youtu.be/3boOxQW5EyI?t=129
I mean just look at this shitbox. This is supposed to be their luxury brand? Looks shit from the outside and shit from the inside.
And listen to the fucking acceleration at 2:09. Jesus, it sounds like a dying cow. Fucking embarrassing.
The S-Class is similarly priced and blows that shitbox out of the water in every way except reliability.
No wonder Lexus is getting slaughtered by pretty much every other car maker. They just don't know how to make cars that people want.
Don't misunderstand me. I like Japanese cars as utility cars. They're great for poorfags like myself. My family owns a Toyota.
But if you don't have to worry about money you buy nice cars cause why the fuck not. it's that simple.

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>>12336970
Tesla's are great if oil is 100/barrel...or if you're some type of climate change freak who unironically thinks the ice caps are going to melt...

>> No.12342764

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/06/forget-about-that-tesla-the-jaguar-i-pace-is-the-most-compelling-ev-yet/

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BTC is not private or fungible!

What use does a large corporate entity or institution have with a coin that can be analysed through chain analysis so that their competitors, foreign governments, or other bad actors can analyse all of their transactions data?

Information leaked includes relationships, supply chains, profit and loss information, accumulated wealth, and more.

For people serious about Business Monero is the answer. Data mining will be a serious issue for commercial deployments.

https://youtu.be/FeNYjYA2lVg

>> No.12342930

>>12342764
A luxury electric vehicle is an oxymoron. You buy an EV to save money. The best EVs are chevy bolt and the Hyundai kona. It's idiotic to buy an $80,000 car to save money on gas. Get something in the $30k range, exploit state and federal tax credits and you're making a smart financial decision.

>> No.12343155

>>12337189

I repaired the avant trany two weeks ago (rebuild)

Cost the lad four thousand fucking dollars. I can’t imagine paying that for a repair.

>> No.12343247

>>12337053

What dope are you smoking nigger, the power packs have a very set life span. The first Prius hybrids are shit tier with reliability because at 10+ years old they require the batteries changed. Same with the first Teslas.

Modern diesels are incredibly efficient these days. A 2 door sports car with a diesel from bmw or Mercedes gets 50 mpg.

>> No.12343272

>>12343247
Diesels require maintenance over those ten years, oil changes and shit.

>> No.12343317

>>12343272

Oil and filters are reasonably cheap if you buy aftermarket and DIY.

I purchased a 6 year old 100k car when new with low mileage for 28k, and I've done services myself for 12 months. No issues.

>> No.12343329

>>12343155
Supposedly its on the transmission control module that needs replacing. I'm looking for someone in the tri-state area to do it because I hate to have to give the car away. You're right tho, spending anything over $1200 on it and its not worth it.

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>>12336970
>tesla

slow piece of shit...i can smoke the fuck out of this in my 1994 EG hatch with a couple of simple mods:

10 point cage with Parachute

3 piece discontinued JoJo frontend

spec-R full drag suspension

Fuel cell with -8 lines from tank to motor

1 044 bosch pump

1200 rc injectors

golden eagle sleeved block

cp 10:1 pistons

Eagle rods

arp headstuds

oem h22 headgasket

Balance shaft delete

competition clutch twin disc

Port and polished head

skunk2 valve springs and retainers

Str cam gears

crower stage 1 cams

aluminium radiator with slim fan

gsr transmission with itr lsd.

qsd h2k intake manifold adapter

k20 rbc manifold

qsd throttle body spacer

blox 70mm throttle body

4bar omni map sensor

6al msd with coil and cap. 3 step launch control

hks bov

Garret 102mm turbocharger.

Custom t4 front facing turbo manifold with 44mm flange

44mm tial wastegate

Custom water to air intercooler set up

aem eugo wideband w/ gauge

tuned on chipped p28

13 inch volks drag rims

2 15 inch volks rear rims

arp extended wheel studs

si cluster

150 shots of nitrous im making 348 horsepower to the FRONT WHEELS because thats the only place the power should ever be

>> No.12343339

>>12342930
I bought an $80,000 car to go 0 - 60 in 3.3 and have no maintenance or gas costs

>> No.12343349

>>12336970
Vibe is releasing a FPS game on Jan 12th. It looks amazing. Not many people know about it yet. Binance & Vibe marketing campaign will start early Jan. Vibe is down 96% from ATH. Koreans are aggressively accumulating. Get in quick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqSL-_zetzI

>> No.12343354

>>12342682
You are confusing comfort with cluttery gimmick features and 'quality' materials in useless places. I have never been any less comfortable in a well kept, basic japanese interior than anything else. There is literally no reason to pay for anything more, the prestige is a meme, nobody is giving you anything because you spent more on a car, they don't know you and they don't fucking care to. But I am not saying it doesn't sell, norman lap that shit up, they are committed to these illusions.

>> No.12343368

>>12343333
fucking CHECKED

>> No.12343367

>>12336970
If not LADA then NADA

>> No.12343656

>>12338724
modern mercedes with engines below 2000cc have renault engines

>> No.12343703

>>12343333
based and ricerpilled

>> No.12343711

>>12339696
>dat 0-60
>dat cost of ownership
>dat safety

>cockriding
something you're surely familiar with

>> No.12343732
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>>12337862
>teslas are garbage
>ICE is superior
>ICE couldn't even lay a scratch on a tesla
literal tank

>> No.12343736

What do you anons think of Porsche 911s? From what I hear they are pretty close to Lexus in terms of long term reliability.

>> No.12343756

>>12336970
Americans can't make cars, just wait for electric european cars

>> No.12344032

>>12343736

The pinnacle of supercars desu. If you look at Consumer Reports they rate Porsche reliability up there with Lexus.

911 Turbo S is the ultimate dream whip. Plus its a supercar you can actually daily drive.

Porsche is a car you drive because u love it. You buy a Ferrari or a Lambo to show off to other fags how rich you are.

>> No.12344261

>>12344032
Isn't the 911 Carrera 4s better in terms of bang for the buck? IIRC the Carreras' now have turbos as well.

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>>12336970
>german equivalents

>> No.12344670

>>12336970
Model X is god tier. My friend traded up to an X from a loaded '15 BMW X3 and it spanks his old car in every possible way.

>> No.12344775

>>12336970
Tesla's lack the range of a regular ICE car. They are only good for the city.
Also, just hope your battery or drivetrain doesn't go bad. It will cost you the price of a new car to replace that. And, it's been happening to a lot of people.
The tech for the batteries just isn't there yet. I would wait to get an EV car.

>> No.12346009

>>12344775
Never seen so much BS in one post before.

>Tesla's lack the range of a regular ICE car. They are only good for the city.
They can drive really far on just a single charge, but even cross-country trips are no problemo because of the network of chargers.

>Also, just hope your battery or drivetrain doesn't go bad. It will cost you the price of a new car to replace that. And, it's been happening to a lot of people.
The warranty is like 8 years, so this is a complete non-issue. The warranty is far longer than for ICE cars because they are far more robust and reliable.

>The tech for the batteries just isn't there yet.
What exactly isn't just there yet? The range and lifetime is more than good enough for 99%+ of people.

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Alright, here are the best looking workers who replaced robots. Homeless, broke, braindead. What does it mean for Tesla? 2 things.
1.The quality of cars will inevitably decrease.
2.Elon Musk image and respect will increase. He is a savior to homeless of California, he is now a based businessman who will do all it takes, not just an autistic dreamer.

>> No.12346595

Most of the tards in here can't afford either, I bought a tesla model X a while ago and never looked back.

>> No.12346600

>>12346595

why would buy X instead of an S, are you a soccer mom?

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Just buy a Volvo

>> No.12347171

>>12337113
If they can't even get the clearances on panel gaps right... what the fuck is wrong with it that you CAN'T see? Fuckkkk that, I'll give them a few years to work out their shit. I don't want to have to go over a brand fucking new car w/ a fine tooth comb - I want to get in and drive.