/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.12317979]

which one of you cunts is going around the board and fudding our coin to keep prices low

[Anonymous No.12317991]

nobody needs to fud monero, but people that missed out on btc crying about monero becoming the "next btc" are doing a good job of fudding it themselves.

[Anonymous No.12318003]

>>12317991
xmr is unironically the most close to what satoshi wanted.

[Anonymous No.12318564]

>>12317979
THE KING

[Anonymous No.12318584]

when will you brainlets realize this shitcoin has no future? its only use case is for criminals. No institutional money will ever pour in this one, no serious huge investor will ever invest in this one, it will forever be a dark web coin for ahmeds and russian mafias and CIA pnd

[Anonymous No.12318606]

>>12317979
This coin is total shit and it's only a matter of time before it's replaced. Fucking hackers don't even want to be paid in it FFS

[Anonymous No.12318619]

>banned from all dnms
Everyone including ponyfucker is dumping their bags because they know GRIN is coming and bringing the first true blockchain 2.0 coin

[Anonymous No.12318640]

>>12318584
>this post happened after the biggest multiplayer game’s in the world merch store decided to accept monero and monero only
Have you lost some chromosomes along the way?

[Anonymous No.12318642]

>>12318584
> fortnite merchant shop starts accepting only XMR
its only for criminals people!

fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.12318652]

>>12318584
>>12318606
>>12318619
Threadly reminder that anyone who talks shit about Monero is a paid operative or more than likely just being sarcastic.

[Anonymous No.12318657]

>>12318584
>this post
>that ID color
stay pink

[Anonymous No.12318662]

>>12318584
That's exactly what people said about Bitcoin in 2012.

[Anonymous No.12318677]

>>12318640
>>12318642
>>12318652
yes morons because there are still no regulations in the market. When regulations come xmr will have to either comply and make its whole purpose useless or get removed from all exchanges

>>12318657
have fun with your 50 cent shitcoin

>>12318662
because they thought bitcoin is untraceable, which is not

[Anonymous No.12318694]

>>12318640
Do you not know how low the average IQ Fortnite player is and do you think they're willing to go through KYC for the shadiest crypto exchanges in the business then obtain BTC just so they can even buy Monero in the first place, let alone jump through hoops to set up their wallets just so they can buy digital hats?

This shit is going to zero.

[Anonymous No.12318697]

>>12317979
> Buy drugs with XMR on Wall Street Market on deepweb.
> No ((((institutional))) money, shorting, paper contracts, futures on this coin to suppress or manipulate price (see Gold for example)
> No chinks controlling hash with cheap/free subsidized power and ASICS.

Only an incel can't see this.

[Anonymous No.12318711]

>>12318677
stupid brainlet, markets will move to DEX systems, if you care about regulations and "the law" you wont ever get rich.

stay poor

[Anonymous No.12318718]

>>12318694
you can buy XMR directily with fiat on certain exchanges, brainlet.

you can also mine it, brainlet
you can also get it gifted, brainlet

fucking brainlets everywhere.

[Anonymous No.12318729]

>>12318711
>DEX
bahahaahahaahah

give me a call when institutional money are going to a fucking DEX to invest their billions. Have fun with your Russian mafia and ISIS investors brainlet, stay poor

[Anonymous No.12318753]

>>12318729
Fuck institutional money and fuck regulation

[Anonymous No.12318767]

>talking about government with crypto
>missing the point THAT much
Jesus, if you think that regulations matter that much just stick to fiat. There’s no point in crypto whatsoever if you think regulations is king
Fiat will always be better because it has trust built into it which is much better for regulations and institutions. Crypto’s whole point is that it is trustless that makes it regulation unfriendly, but that’s the whole fucking point you fucking IDIOTS GOD JESUS CHRSIT WHY ARE LEOPLE SKNFH FUKWIND SHNABHEHAZNBDEKFB

[Anonymous No.12318778]

>>12318753
yeah fuck the trillions in institutional money who needs them rite? we have Ahmed the bomber and Ivan the heroin dealer to pump our shitcoin!!

[Anonymous No.12318783]

>>12317979
Because anyone with a functioning brain knows that Zcash is better

[Anonymous No.12318789]

>>12318729
> muh institutional money
lol yeah you wont ever make it/

[Anonymous No.12318807]

>>12318789
>who needs institutional money, criminals will pump our coin!
yeah, you will stay poor forever bucko

[Anonymous No.12318808]

>>12318783
No...

The new monero is Nerva

[Anonymous No.12318816]

>>12318767
Sorry man there's a lot of retards who entered the market in 2017-2018

[Anonymous No.12318819]

>>12318807
I unironically will never be poor cause I come from good family. I also sold january.

btc went all the way to what, 5 or 6k usd without institions buying it, nowgo suck on a fucking huge cock cause you are too fucking stupid to do anything in the crypto market. just go suck cocks

[Anonymous No.12318834]

>>12318819
>I will never be poor
>I also sold in january
hey bud, try to make your larp less obvious next time

[Anonymous No.12318851]

>>12318807
>tfw institutions are the criminals
really makes you think

[Anonymous No.12318852]

>>12318778
The point is anyone can use it for anything legal or not. It's money, it doesn't care. Like physical Gold or Cash.

If you want complete regulated and government approved transactions just go to your bank and use wire transfers etc. They've been doing this for centuries and are good at it, why even bother with crypto.

[Anonymous No.12318855]

>>12318677
Based brainlet-posting ironic comedy anon coming through ONCE AGAIN in yet another Monero thread with the knee-slappers. Remember guys, he's only joking. Keep up the good work, brainlet-anon. Do you have a Monero address? One of these days I'll send you a tip.

[Anonymous No.12318865]

Zcoin is still better

[Anonymous No.12318868]

>>12318852
>the only purpose of blockchain is for making untraceable transactions
>I know this bcs the ghost of shutashi nukamuto told me so

[Anonymous No.12318887]

>>12318865
20% of minted coins go to the founders reward

[Anonymous No.12318901]

>>12318887

How are dev teams paid without founders rewards? Isn't it a full time job

[Anonymous No.12318902]

I like these threads because they remind me just how few reasons there are to not get monero.

[Anonymous No.12318921]

>>12318902
there's no reason to get any coin. It's all speculation

[Anonymous No.12318922]

>>12318887
i have to agree with >>12318901 that its a good thing they have funding for development sorted out.

[Anonymous No.12318926]

>>12317979
>which one of you cunts is going around the board and fudding our coin to keep prices low
I am faggot. Do something about it

[Anonymous No.12318929]

>>12318778
Go and buy Nano and wait around on plebbit for muh institutional money you fucking moonboy retard.

[Anonymous No.12318971]

fortnite, nuff said

[Anonymous No.12318983]

>>12318921
exactly, keep doing things like this. I don't get my raise for another 30 days so hold them off as long as you can until i get paid

[Anonymous No.12319053]

>>12318767
That guy with the pink id isn't serious, he just baits for (You)'s and is very good at it. Nobody is actually that stupid. Anybody that thinks GOOD crypto was designed to be regulation friendly is a top shelf retard. The entire point, like you said, is that it's uncensorable. If you don't need that, just use fiat.

[Anonymous No.12319097]

>>12318929
why holding untested, premined and unusable scam? Nano is just a cool esoterik

[Anonymous No.12319229]

>>12318694
There are zoomers that bought bitcoin and ethereum in 2017 who are now realizing they were conned into ponzis. Upon seeing fortnite accepting monero, they convert all their shitcoins into the one real cryptocurrency and spend 0.4xmr on a new shirt. This is it. They have seen the future and it is private, uncensorable , digital money.

[Anonymous No.12319283]

>>12318584
>>12318606
>>12318619
>>12318677
>>12318694
>>12318783
>>12318808
>>12318902
>the absolute state of monerolets

[Anonymous No.12319292]

>>12318901
>>12318922
>dev team get paid with 20% of ALL what is mined

Fuck, those pajeets never get tired of being scammed.

[Anonymous No.12319293]

>>12318584
Based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.12319315]

>>12318783
>anyone with a functioning brain knows that Zcash is better

[Anonymous No.12319323]

>>12319315

Technology wise Zero knowledge proofs are better

[Anonymous No.12319324]

>>12319315
trusted setup and optional privacy

sad loser

[Anonymous No.12319398]

>>12319323
Only in a vacuum without the rest of Zcash's ridiculous baggage are zkSNARKs better than ring signatures. Also, just so you have your jargon correct, Monero's bulletproofs are technically zero knowledge proofs.
https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/1066.pdf
>>12319324
Trusted setup is not a positive for Zcash. What we should want is a trustLESS setup where the coin works without us needing to trust anyone. No key ceremony required. Optional privacy is just a means vector for temporal analysis. The fact that only 3% of Zcash transactions are shielded is laughable. It's actually worse than just using bitcoin or a bitcoin mixer.

[Anonymous No.12319407]

>>12318783
based/redpilled

[Anonymous No.12319417]

>>12319292
it will be put to use for marketing and adoption projects. like DASH is conquering venezuela.

[Anonymous No.12319441]

>>12319323
sigh this makes me feel better, i bought like 70 zcash three days ago

how much xmr or monero do i need to make it to lambo land?

[Anonymous No.12319467]

>>12318584
What use does a large corporate entity or institution have with a coin that can be analysed through chain analysis so that their competitors, foreign governments, or other bad actors can analyse all of their transactions data?

Information leaked includes relationships, supply chains, profit and loss information, accumulated wealth, and more.

For people serious about Business Monero is the answer. Data mining will be a serious issue for commercial deployments.

[Anonymous No.12319480]

>>12318584
The Jews are out on full force today. Be advised anons

[Anonymous No.12319531]

>>12319417
>fell for the "marketing and adoption projects" meme
>uses Dash, a scam, as example
You pajeets never learn...

[Anonymous No.12319581]

>>12318606
>litteral fud

[Anonymous No.12319584]

>>12317979
me op.. privacy coins are a meme... monero isnt a good investment.. bitcoin is a store of value.. it's price will go up because people hold it.... monero is only a currency... they buy and sell... you need holders to increase price.. supply and demand... privacy currency will be banned... wont be held by banks etc

[Anonymous No.12319598]

>>12319584
LITERAL SHIT TIER FUD

[Anonymous No.12319599]

>>12319292
>>12319531
also the founders reward of 20% stops after 4 years of mining on ZEC.

so its not 20% of "all" mined coins at all lmao.

[Anonymous No.12319608]

>>12319584
using ... that much really makes you seem retarded

[Anonymous No.12319637]

>>12318003
case in point

[Anonymous No.12319699]

>see one Dero thread a week on /biz/
>90% of the thread is Turtlecoin and Monero posters spamming "SCAM" over and over again

>see Monero thread on /biz/ 24/7
>"Why are you guys FUDDING our coin?"
>"Why is EVERYONE missing out ON THE GREATEST COIN EVER?"
>"Look at all the things Monero has done in the past week! It'll take BTC over by 2020 for sure!"
>Dero posters leave Monero threads alone
>Monero poster larps as a Dero poster, posts "Dero" in Monero thread, and then him and his buddies gang up on the "Dero poster" for 50+ posts straight

Monero posters are literally the Democrats of the crypto world.

[Anonymous No.12319708]

>>12319599
>supporting a 20% tax on mining profits
Kike

[Anonymous No.12319757]

>>12319708
> not having a self funding scheme in your blockchain.

its like you want to attract actors with agendas to fund / take over development.

[Anonymous No.12319912]

>>12319699
Because Dero actually is a scam.

[Anonymous No.12319924]

>>12319757
Only shitcoins need self funding to survive. Bitcoin and Monero are doing very well without it.

[Anonymous No.12319941]

isn't xmr only ~60% private according to recent research papers?

[Anonymous No.12319945]

>>12319699
>Monero posters are literally the Democrats of the crypto world.
most fitting allegory i've read on this board in a while

[Anonymous No.12319950]

HODL

[Anonymous No.12319962]

[Anonymous No.12319984]

[Anonymous No.12320030]

[Anonymous No.12320036]

Want

[Anonymous No.12320049]

>>12319924
> bitcoin is doing very well
ahahahahah overtaken by big groups with agendas. BTC is the prime result of what happens when you don't have self funding chain. it gets taken over by the fucking jews ahd crippled until it isn't even usable anymore.

can't speak for monero yet but im pretty sure its already being targetted by certain groups with funding too.

[Anonymous No.12320099]

>>12320049
Explain how exactly it was overtaken.

[Anonymous No.12320132]

Any reason to buy into XMR when we're gonna be using zk-Dai and zk-Ethereum?

[Anonymous No.12320154]

>>12319699
Dero posters are just scammers or suckers (bag holders) that use Monero as an excuse to talk about their shitcoin. Their posts would be deleted as spam but they pretend it's relevant by associating with Monero. This post is yet another example.

[Anonymous No.12320157]

>>12320099
pic related.

Blockstream is working on sidechains to sell, the only way that can work is if the main chain is crippled so people can't use it. that's what they did with the limitations, block size and others, disabled OP codes. BTC core has been infiltrated and it sucks now. BCH sucks too, for a while they were doing good but then they just turned into a blockstream 2.0

then you have the absolute retard CSW who has the right intentions of locking the protocol but, as you can see BTC is failed, it already forked like 10 times because of failed consensus.


Coins like DASH that have self governing, master nodes and self funding don't get into this shitty situations.

[Anonymous No.12320235]

Like this board influences crypto

[Anonymous No.12321322]

>>12320235
This board is the nexus of crypto's best and brightest minds. The brap-posting and memes are just a front. Get on my level.

[Anonymous No.12321332]

>>12319699
unironically this.
dero is so fucking undervalued and you fags cant even see it.

name one other coin that has private smart contracts on the base layer.

[Anonymous No.12321384]

>>12321332
What matters the technical part if the rest of the project is a scam? It hasn't the most basic aspects of a truly decentralized and good crypto currency.

[Anonymous No.12321414]

>>12321384
it's no more of a scam than 99% of other projects that pumped in 2017. in fact probably less so. the only thing "scammy" is the fact that it has a 10% premine and was closed source for about a month.

even though it wasnt actually "closed source". the only thing that was closed source was their bulletproof implementation. anyway im not going to argue w/ you. i mostly lurk anyway.

[Anonymous No.12321428]

>>12317979
Topkek even darknet hackers dont even want monero

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-01/pay-fck-hackers-threaten-dump-secret-911-attack-files-if-bitcoin-ransom-not-met

How the fuck can this even go up when zcash the bank backed privacy coin exists?

They’ll destroy XMR in no time shits going to zero

Also LMAO at
>i-its used on fortnite
topkek like any 12 year old or likewise zoomer will waste time using xmr over fiat. I’d guarantee its 0.0000001% of all tx

[Anonymous No.12321494]

>>12321332
>>12321414
If there's any demand for private smart contracts using a BlockDAG someone will just fork Dero, update the algo to break the old Cryptonight algo that's ASIC friendly, and remove the pre-mine. The tech sounds cool but there was enough turmoil in the project's beginnings to warrant a reboot IMO.
>>12321428
>high profile bitcoin ransom
Every single exchange could blacklist the UTXO's for that bitcoin. That's fucking retarded lmao. Also
>bank backed
>private
Come on, son.

[Anonymous No.12321659]

>>12321494
>you have to use an exchange to buy/sell btc
TOPkek brainlet
>a banked backed coin cannot have a privacy feature
wew son u have some reading to do

[Anonymous No.12321681]

>>12321494
>update the algo to break the old Cryptonight algo that's ASIC friendly

if you doing so, then you gonna remove all value of your shitcoin because it will be less secure than Dero and even more slower.

[Anonymous No.12321732]

>>12321681
>Dero
>secure

[Anonymous No.12322078]

whale here. hm lots of dero people in this thread. ok. just a heads up. im about to dump the price by like 30% to shake out the weak hands. (i'll delete this post in a few minutes - consider this a new years gift). just need to charge my phone first to get the 2fa for TO.

also, expect the price to stay quite low for a month or two. it will pick up again once SC go on mainnet and more stuff has been built.

[Anonymous No.12322078,1]

>>12322078
>make post 40 minutes after it dumped so people stupid enough looking through the archive would see this post and think you're someone special when you're not
>make sure to sage the thread and delete the post after a minute when the thread is on Page 10 to make absolutely sure nobody other than those looking in the archive see it

We're reaching autism levels that shouldn't even be possible