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There is so much talk about "Germany muh open borders" or that there is a lack of skilled workers, yet most papers and so on are in German and there seem to be an acceptable form of almost-racism to complain about australians, britons and others that they don't learn the language

At the same time 10000s of arabs and turks who don't speak german and earn welfare, no one critizises. Even the german ministers complain about tax generating english business owners https://www.dw.com/en/cdus-jens-spahn-slams-berlins-english-speaking-hipsters/a-40212991

>> No.12275254

>>12275239
get the fuck out of my country you little bitch

>> No.12275255

Anglos are expected to assimilate. Poo in loos and muzzies are treated like stinky children that can't help themselves. This is the power of white privilege.

>> No.12275257

>>12275239
Didn't you know? Critizising white people is fine but niggers and sandmonkeys is off-limits. Those savages don't know any better, have some pity!

>> No.12275265

I've never been anywhere else in the world where there are "too many" anglo people there, but Mitte and Kreuzberg are insane. Every second person is American or English or Australian. I would love to live in Berlin but felt so embarrassed as "part of the problem" that I wouldn't go back unless I could communicate completely in German. I did duolingo every morning and still felt so embarrassed when I used English.

>> No.12275267

>>12275239
We can speak English, but we let you know to learn our language.
Why should we speak the enemy language? The same hate counts for french

>> No.12275268

>>12275257
there is also quite a big asian community in Berlin running restaurants and shops, i never heard any offical or Berlin leftist activist complain about them ... must be a great idea to complain about doctors or engineers who actually have jobs and help all those war wounded elderlies

>> No.12275271

>>12275255
there is truth in this
now fucking learn the local language OP, you entitled bitch

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>>12275267
I could understand the reasoning IF it applied to everyone. But like I said, a lot of immigrant groups are never even talked about and state just hand them money and apartmetns for free and give them translators or whatever

But if you move from like Denmar or Italy, no one is there to help you

>> No.12275299

>>12275239
If shitskins can learn the language why can't you? Don't expect the average to citizen to speak comfortably in English.
I'm a software developer and we have a ton of foreigners in our company who don't speak German.
Yeah, we do communicate in English if necessary but it's definitely a barrier when it comes to social bonding.
Not even bothering to speak the language just tells people that you're only there to profit from them in some way.

>> No.12275307

>>12275239
Dumb Anglo.

>> No.12275316

>>12275299
my point was they are not learning it while still getting free money from the state

>> No.12275320

>>12275239

Germans are fucking absolute cucks. They are the centre of and benefit the most from a globalist project which extracts cheap labour from other neighbouring countries and lets them easily export their kraut shit to them or muscle in on their markets, but then get mad when globalism in the form of English being the de facto language of business worldwide impacts on their shit tier language back home.

Fuck Germans.

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>>12275284
The immigrants are treated well because our government hates us.
If you moved from Denmark or Italy, you should be smart enough to find something like a meet-up group on social media and get in touch with people who can help you.

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>>12275320
(You)

>> No.12275350
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>>12275320
Du bist ein Hurensohn, welcher nicht einmal das geistige Fassungsvermögen besitzt unsere Übermenschensprache zu erlernen, geschweige denn zu verstehen.

>> No.12275362

>>12275265
Lmfao what are you talking about. You can speak English to anyone is Berlin an no mother fucked will bat an eye. Grow some fucking balls jeez

>> No.12275367
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12275367

>europe gets blown up by ngubus and ahmeds
>america gets fucked to death by pic related

anglos win again

>> No.12275371

>>12275284

the reason is muh 6 million for all of this

>> No.12275383

>>12275239
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA A fucking anglo complaining about learning a second language, imagine my shock

>> No.12275390

>>12275383
I am from Denmark stupid kraut. you know the country together with sweden, norway and netherlands who is basically fluent in english ?

>> No.12275653

OP learn German you cunt

>> No.12275696

>>12275390
fluent in arabic*

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>>12275350
Sehr richtig.

>> No.12275766

>>12275239
Probably the same as racism against Polacks in Britain, they aren't allowed to criticize the Pakistanis so they just bash Polacks instead.

>> No.12275796

>>12275766
never understood the hate for polish guys in UK and Nordic countries. They are 30-50% cheaper, works 200% harder, and do not commit any crimes and treat women well.

Based hard workers imo

>> No.12275808

>>12275796
Well, you can't criticize the Somalians, Iraqis, Afghans, etc. as that would be Hate, so just take your frustration out on Pyotr or Vytautas instead I guess.

>> No.12275811

>>12275390
Why did you go to Germany then? Muh, Berlin so cool, muh, so cheap, so open, mmhhh

Better go back to a developed nation such as Sweden :)

>> No.12275819

>>12275367
Damn, Angie really needs a nose job

>> No.12275829

>>12275808
what's wrong with hate?

>> No.12275844

>>12275829
Nothing necessarily, but the bobbies will still arrest you for it, won't they?

>> No.12275858

>>12275844
I don't know what a bobby is.
Why should anyone get arrested for hate?

>> No.12275863

>>12275858
>bobbies
the UK police.
>why should anyone get arrested for hate
idk, ask the countries with hate speech laws

>> No.12275888

>>12275863
Why are Europeans blind to their backwards behavior?

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>>12275239
>>12275808
>>12275766

Krauts are not allowed to criticize sandniggers. So they take it out on chinks and gooks who don't talk back.

>> No.12275964

>>12275811
The purchasing power from making 75k as React Dev in Berlin is quite higher than Stockholm

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>>12275239
>At the same time 10000s of arabs and turks who don't speak german and earn welfare, no one critizises

So called "Paralelgesellschaften" are the toppic of many political debates for years already, are you sure you live in Germany?

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>>12275254

>> No.12276035

>>12276028
T. Sargoy of cuckkad

>> No.12276156

>>12275239
Brits and Germans don’t like each other at all.

>> No.12276228

>>12276156
brits fought for (((them))) and germans fought (((them))), so bongs are the lowest life form on eart next to the jews, and germans are based and thank you for strasbourg.

>> No.12276464

>>12275239
yeah i found it weird too how i felt like the germans treated me with disprespect for talking with them in english in a lot of places
like they can speak english but they really don't like to

>> No.12276520

>>12275239
If a german comes to your country do you expect him to learn your language?
I bet you do.
So learn german and stop whining!

>> No.12276521

>>12275265
>I would love to live in Berlin
no, no you wouldn't
unless you're a sandnigger or something then you probably do

>> No.12276563

>>12276520
No, we from more civilized countries in the north are multi lingual and is fluent in english. We don't stupidly dub our movies and computer games...

>> No.12276575

>>12276464
Im German and I hate it when some britfag or yank comes up to me and starts talking to me in English like its the most natural thing in the world. it is rude as fuck, how about you ask me if I speak your anglo shit before talking to me in a foreign language you fucking cunt. depending on my mood I will simply pretend I dont speak english, tell you to fuck off or just be slightly annoyed and answer in English. how about you learn the local language instead of acting like a cunt

>> No.12276583

>>12276563
its a matter of manners you rude fuck.
I speak english fluently but I wouldnt go up to some non-native speaker and just start yapping at him in English assuming he understands me. its called having manners and apparently you angllos forgot yours a long time ago.

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>>12276575
Do you speak to people in Sweden or Italy in swedish or italian? Or do you use english?

>> No.12276593

>>12276583
>what is globalization
>what is the EU internal market
>What is free trade and big arket reach
>What is being welcoming to people from other countries

yeah enjoy being overtaken by china soon as engineering country, the chinese 20 year old students in Berlin speaks better english than most professional germans

>> No.12276598

>>12276563
You mean your market is too small to dub movies.
Thats not the germans fault.
If i would move to another country i would learn the language first. It's a sign of respect.

>> No.12276610

>>12276584
I politely ask them if they speak English before I start yapping at them in a foreign language.

>>12276593
>muh globalization muh being welcoming to foreigners
maybe Germans dont like those things and dont like being talked to in foreign languages that ever occured to you you cunt? how about you learn German if you want to live in our country.

>> No.12276643

>>12275239
Because Germans hate Jews so much that they imported dangerous, extremist Muslims to deter them from ever coming back.

>> No.12276663

>>12276228
Whiter than you achmed.

>> No.12276664

>>12276610
then why is there so much "we need open borders" talk in germany... the fucking point of this thread

>> No.12276677

>>12276521
t. salty hillbilly living in bumfuck nowhere

Berlin is awesome

>> No.12276690

>>12276664
because our elites hate us and want to destroy us you maggot. the everyday German hates this shit unless hes a completely cucked soiboi faggot. of course they would never tell you that as its literally illegal in Germany to complain about shitskins. why do you think the AFD has 20% in votes and you see German flags have been popping up all over the place after 2015. nobody ever asked the Germans if we even WANT to bring in millions of shitskins.

>> No.12276699

>>12275320
Hurensohn

>> No.12276710

>>12276664
you know you might be from denmark or whatever but in my eyes youre no better than some arab or nigger from africa. you come to Germany to leech off of our economy and then have the nerve to complain about Germans wanting to speak German. how about you go back to your own country if you have a problem with our language and customs.

>> No.12276782

>>12275239
You aren't English OP
I don't know whether that's what you were implying but it seems to be what people think ITT
>I know because you wrote things like "I live in Germany since 2 years" (seit 2 Jahren) instead of something like 'I have lived here for 2 years'

>>12275320
Faggot wanker

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>>>/int/
>>>/pol/

Fucking sage you cancerous goddamn faggots get the ever loving fuck off my board jesus this is why 4chan has gone to fucking shit

>> No.12276814

>>12275239
>software development in German

funkioniert fernwehtrioppenzimmlergrepistfarb() {
ekoprintencout “Hallo, Weltengruppenalles!\\\\/\\n”;
}

German software is a meme

>> No.12276824

>>12276690
>of course they would never tell you that as its literally illegal in Germany to complain about shitskins

Dont make up fact, just because people on 4chan dont know German law, faggot.

You can state facts all day long and never get even touched by the authorities. They only act, when you publically insult people or ethnities or publically make up lies about them.

>why do you think the AFD has 20% in votes
Because of "muh" elites, it is the same reason why Trump got elected - in both west and east Germany, people are tired of having the same leadership for more than a decade. And in eastern Germany, people are tired of the empty promisses of the western part made in the 90ies.

Look up how many voters of the AfD actually think the AfD can solve problems. This party is nothing more than a middle-finger to the face of the great coalition after a botched reunification and rising inequality, not even their own voters expect them to do something.

>> No.12276842

>>12276824
>They only act, when you publically insult people or ethnities or publically make up lies about them
Yeah but in other civilized lands this is perfectly legal

>> No.12276846

>>12276824
>what is §130 StGB
>they only voted trump/AFD as a joke haha
oh boy

>> No.12276850

>>12276824
the AfD is just controlled opposition.
>goldman sachs lesbian
thats all I needed to hear to know that they are as garbage as the rest.

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>>12276842
>Yeah but in other civilized lands this is perfectly legal
So you want to lie?

>>12276846
Try it. It is impossible to get thrown into jail or even face court, if you simply state truths and facts.

>> No.12276946

>>12276919
>It is impossible to get thrown into jail or even face court
lmao they'll throw 100 year old retirees in jail because they delivered milk to some supposed death camps anon. oh my sweet summer child. how about you go out and say you hate jews in public (a 100% factual statement of an inner emotional landscape) and see what happens.

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>>12276946
>argues that freedom of speech does not exist in Germany
>comes up with war criminal trials against old fascists & nazis

Also: stating that you dont like someone based on his religion, skin color or because he is wearing pink clothes is not a criminal act under §130 StGB. Same if you extend it to people sharing these attributes. It might be an insult, if you add subjective adjectives to it, but even then: more than 90% of all proceedings for insult will be discontinued anyways aka "nothing happens".

>> No.12277013

>>12275239
Education in most English speaking countries has not improved in decades. I think we're really sliding balls deep toward becoming the movie Idiocracy if the 10 boomers who own 90% of the wealth don't start investing in the youth or crypto levels the playing field. Boomers being boomers caused 2008 and everything else by saying that 'being educated is for fags'. So I think when abroad, English speakers don't even try to speak the local language because the absolute state of intelligence in the west for the past decades means that they're trying to be individualistic boomers who think other languages are gay, or they know deep down that they would sound unbearably stupid if they even attempted to speak the language... I definitely want to learn more languages though. Hurensohn is easy ;) Whore'n's Son .. fuck boomers and fuck google captcha

>> No.12277020

>>12275239
Literally what does any of this even mean in freedom language

>> No.12277096

>>12276995
>he thinks Germany is a bastion of free speech
lmao whatever you say Malte. go on then and go say you hate jews/arabs/niggers in public and see what happens.

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>>12277096
You have two options:
a) give a solid case, where Germany has restricted the freedom of speech of someone who made a statement solely based on his opinion

b) you go on rambling about it and make a joke out of yourself, just because you dont understand the judicial system you live in

>> No.12277362

>>12277300
>who is ernst zündel
>who is ursula haverbeck
>who is Horst mahler
you are absolutely deluded and stupid anon. they had zündel extrradited from canada for breaking German hatespeech laws when he wasnt even on German soil when he committed his through crimes. mahler got incarcerated for literally raising his arm in a prohibited angle and saying "heil". you could say and do any of these and you wold be protected by the first amendment, you might be socially ostracized but your right of speech is guaranteed by the constitution. in Germany you go to jail for literally raising your arm in a forbidden way and you're trying to paint a picture of Germany as some bastion of free speech. absolutely ridiculous, next youre saying the United Arab Emirates are a bastion of womens rights lmao

>> No.12277372

>>12277362
*you could say and do any of these things in the United States
not even to mention that entirie phrases and symbols are banned simply because muh bad guys used them 70 years ago to gas the kikes. germany has some of the most oppressive limitations on freedom of speech in all of Europe and youre pretending its a bastion of speech lmao

>> No.12277389

>>12277372
Depends.
When you take a look at universities, germany is much more free.

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>>12277362
>ernst zündel
Known denier of the holocaust, a proven event in the past, making his statements not "opinions", but lies.

>ursula haverbeck
Known denier of the holocaust, a proven event in the past, making his statements not "opinions", but lies.

>Horst mahler
Known... wait, he actually also threatened to kill people on top of denying the holocaust.

All three tried to call the holocaust an "opinion". The holocaust however is a proven historical event, therefore saying it never happened was not an opinion, but lying in public.

>> No.12277622

>>12277502
lol are you a lawyer? it takes a certain demented brain for the mental gymnastics youre presenting here. horst mahler literally got convicted for raising his arm in an illegal way and saying an illegal phrase, great freedom of speech you got there buddy hahaha

>> No.12277626

>>12277502
*For which the country of Germany - a country, which officially and legally defines itself as being the opposite of what it was before (the third reich) - happen to have a publically and legally approved special law, which forbids stating this specific lie in public.

If you publically declare me of being a stinking pig, it is an insult, which is covered by §185 StGB.
If you publically and wrongly accuse me of stealing, it is libel and covered by §187 StGB.
And if you publically deny the holocaust, you are lying about this specific fact, which is covered under §130 StGB.

>>12277372
>germany has some of the most oppressive limitations on freedom of speech in all of Europe and youre pretending its a bastion of speech lmao

You suggest those signs being "normal" in any context outside of Germany or specific communities of right-wing extremists, which is not the case.

And you cannot get in legal trouble if you state: "I dont like people with black skin".
What gets one in trouble is: "I hate those stinking niggers, if you have black skin all you do is stealing!".

>> No.12277683

>>12277626
>You suggest those signs being "normal" in any context outside of Germany or specific communities of right-wing extremists, which is not the case.
>what is a swastika
>what is a roman salute
>we have awesome freedom of speech, but only if its within what we consider a "normal" range and doesnt go against "proven facts"
uh huh sure thing buddy

>> No.12277769

>>12277622
>great freedom of speech you got there buddy
Awww... you neglect the fact, that he:
- threatened the whole courtroom (icluding judge & attorney) to be put to death in the future (great way to make a judge angry and an attorney very bothersome in the future)
- the people he greeted with the hitler salute were obviously right-wing extremists and the justice in Germany is not stupid to believe him simply "raising his arm this way"

You wont get punished for "raising your arm the wrong way". You will get punished for doing the hitler salute. You also wont get punished, if you mime to shoot a gun at someone. You will get punished, if you actually do so.

And also literally all of the proceedings before and afterwards were because of insults and denying the holocaust (again: a fact, not an opinion). On top: the amount of his charges for insults alone would be enough to put anybody in jail.

>> No.12277798

>>12277769
this is really getting a bit tiresome anon. if you wanna know what constitutionally protected freedom of speech looks like, look at the United States. trying to argue that Germany is a haven of freedom of speech is simply ridiculous and you are grasping at straws and technicalities here.

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>>12277683
>what is a swastika
Something normal in India.

>what is a roman salute
Something normal during the third reich - the actual roman salute was a straight arm with a pointed index finger, with which you get not into any trouble in Germany.

>we have awesome freedom of speech, but only if its within what we consider a "normal" range and doesnt go against "proven facts"
It literally only forbids you to publically deny the holocaust. Other than that, your danger of getting into legal trouble because of what you say is literally lower than in the US, where people can sue the living shit out of you and the state stacks charges over charges, just to prosecute you, regardless if you did anything or not.

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>>12277798
>actually calls the US a country with constitutionally protected freedom of speech

Gtfo, mate. You are a prime delusional retard with no education or knowledge whatsoever.

>> No.12277881

Is there anything more disgusting than an anglo? They are like Jews but somehow worse.

>> No.12277893

>>12277836
>its totally cool, just dont point your fingers in a certain way, use certain mean words or certain hateful symbols or question certain historical events
all those things are literally protected by the US constitution and can land you in jail in Germany. great freedom of speech you got there ;)

>>12277866
>hurr durr muh education
>what is the first amendment

>> No.12277899

>>12277893
You literally cannot publicly boycott Israel in the US. It is illegal.

>> No.12277909

>>12277899
still a lot more freedumbs than we have in germany

>> No.12277942

>>12277909
germany is literally the most developed country of the world, i promise you that you dont have any more freedom anywhere else (unless you want to buy guns and play video games with swastikas)

which is exactly why it will be the first to follow the roman empire

>> No.12277955

>>12277942
>most developed country therefore the most free
checks out

>> No.12277996

>>12277893
>what is the first amendment
Reread >>12277836:
>the state stacks charges over charges, just to prosecute you, regardless if you did anything or not.

The practice of "stacking charges" makes your own lawyer pressing you into pleading guilty without him even looking at your case or even your trial being scheduled.

In Germany however, the most grave deed you commit is usually for what you get a punishment. Most other charges related to this charge are dropped in almost every case and not even mentioned during trial, as long as they are not murder, grievous bodily injury or something like that.

Mate, you are simply not educated enough to judge if Germany is "more free" than the US. If we compare simple regular issues with the US criminal law (like mandatory minimum sentenses or the aforementioned charge stacking), which lead to way higher misjudgments, Germany is a fucking paradise, where the only thing you need to look out for is, to not publically deny a historical event.

And boy, dont let me get started the US civil law, which can lead you into another world of nightmares, compared to the mess Germany is in this respect.

>> No.12278007

>>12277996
lol I didnt even read this drivel anymore. so you are a lawyer after all huh? checks out, no sane person would be capable of such mental gymnastics :D

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>>12278007
>cope

>> No.12278038

>be based gay anglo/Greek guy in America
>Try to redpill the masses
>Get deplatformed and eventually go bankrupt after you sponsors bail
Meanwhile
>Be non-american in Europe
>Redpill the masses
>Get thrown in jail
>Get tons of sympathy and donations from supporters and sponsors
>Leave jail after your 4 day sentence with more clout than you entered with
Hmmm

>> No.12278104

>>12277502
Holohoax didn‘t happen du dumme Nafri Juden Hure.

>> No.12278173

The truth is, Germans are spineless cucks nowadays, you can practically waltz into their country open borders and all, and start impregnating their whore women who craze foreign cock.

>> No.12278202

>>12275320
Close the thread, this is the true answer. My experience with Germans shows what snakes they really are, they are backstabbing vermin who are not to be trusted what-so-ever.