"college is a meme"

[Anonymous No.12262557]

Why do so many retards and dropouts on biz spout this shit?

[Anonymous No.12262566]

>>12262557
college is a meme is a meme but college is actually a meme to a certain degree but certain degrees arent a meme

[Anonymous No.12262595]

>>12262557
College is just a proxy for IQ. If someone with a 130 IQ didn't go to college, he would still be able to make the same amount of money.

[Anonymous No.12262666]

striving to be average is a meme
average gets you a 20 years mortgage, a bored wife cheating on you, a job you're trapped in and broken dreams you rationalise as growing up
fastforward 20 years, and average gets you maimed or killed in the increasingly world Brazil society our masters are building
your ancestors have struggled for thousands of years to make your life a reality. now you're easily fooled by material comforts and you think the hard times will never ever come
if you go to college be a top performer, else skip the whole thing and build your own business. you've got less than a decade to be a millionaire, and this should be your first step, not your goal

[Anonymous No.12262685]

>>12262666
devilish digits but its a truthful post.. Or is it?

I'd rather be at my maximum peak performance physically, mentally, and spiritually than have a million. Obviously though, I'm over estimating my peak abilities which is a symptom of Low IQ...? So I might as well slave away for that million. Life is rough.

[Anonymous No.12263001]

>>12262666
> astforward 20 years, and average gets you maimed or killed in the increasingly world Brazil society our masters are building
your ancestors have struggled for thousands of years to make your life a reality. now you're easily fooled by material comforts and you think the hard times will never ever come
satanic trips

so fucking true my man golden post

[Anonymous No.12263022]

While you’re memorizing books for half a decade most normal people are out partying and getting to know people
>hey dude do you want to be a programmer at my company?
>but I don’t know anything about computers
>I’m sure you’ll get a hang of it

[Anonymous No.12263031]

>>12262566
you said it all

[Anonymous No.12263062]

According to Goldman Sachs, College as an investment isn't a good investment for most people.

[Anonymous No.12263077]

>>12262557
I'm 24, no degree, and am currently making $130k/year as a software engineer with less than $500 in monthly expenses
I've been learning many different aspects of SE ever since high school, so I just got an apprenticeship instead of going to college. After a year of that, I moved on to a full-time salaried position

[Anonymous No.12263078]

Double salary at age and experience level? Dope.

[Anonymous No.12263102]

From an article on CNN Business - https://money.cnn.com/2015/12/09/news/economy/college-not-worth-it-goldman/
>Many students are better off not going to mediocre colleges -- ones that rank in the bottom 25% of all universities -- Goldman says in a new report. They earn less, on average, than high school graduates

>"The average return on going to college is falling," Goldman researchers wrote. The bank is known for ruthlessly focusing on the bottom line.

>In 2010, the typical college student had to work 8 years to break even on their bachelor's degree investment, Goldman found. Most graduates would be around 30 years old by then.

>As the price tag of a college education goes up, it's taking longer for the investment to pay off. Here's what Goldman projects:
-- 2015 graduates won't break even until age 31
-- 2030 graduates won't break even until age 33
-- 2050 graduates won't break even until age 37

[Anonymous No.12263103]

[Anonymous No.12263106]

What even is college? Is it an university or something like high school?

[Anonymous No.12263109]

>>12263062
you can't just college is a bad or good investment

that's like saying food is good or bad investment

if you're entire diet is fruit loops then it's bad

college is a good investment if you're going for a bachelors (for fields that are actually worth going into like IT, software development, engineering, finance, medicine) and masters is actually a waste of time. The ROI is even higher if its from a top school in that field (like cmu or stanford for CS) . Besides that going for a bachelor in psychology or liberal arts from some acreddited diploma mill with a 90% acceptance rate is fucking retarded and you should be sterilized

[Anonymous No.12263114]

>>12263102
you have to look at majors

only sub 90 iq people go to bumfuck deshaquan university and major in political gender studies and expect a good salary

[Anonymous No.12263116]

to this day, college is still a good investment

not because it will put you above your peers, but because it's required to bring you to baseline of employment eligibility

[Anonymous No.12263120]

>>12262557
It's a meme to people who hope it will instill them with the drive to do well for themselves
t. Complete loser with a stem degree from a prestigious university

[Anonymous No.12263130]

>>12263120
stem majors from prestigious unis get internships in their first year of college from big companies like google, dell, intel and hp.

[Anonymous No.12263131]

>>12263114
What i have listed is the average.. so on average is takes roughly 10 years after they have graduated to "break even".
The various majors have a huge impact, which means for alot of people that goes to low-tier colleges and study worthless studies, they will never break even. They will not have been "investing in themselves" they are worse off, and are condemned to poverty for the rest of their lives.

[Anonymous No.12263133]

>>12262557
college is now just as anything else in late capitalism, a lottery ticket for a couple proles, but mostly another tool to enslave them to a lifetime of work.

>>12262595
false. college is a proxy for social class.
if you saw the amount of retards that get let into college because they took AP exams, you'll take that back.
at college you're supposed to bump bows and meet the other aristocracy.

>>12263062
it's starting to become somewhat of a bubble because of government funding.
most people aren't actually paying the cost of the price.

>>12263078
that chart isn't taking into account the earning differences of generations.
yeah, getting a college degree in the 70s could gaurantee you a 150k job, but not now.

>>12263102
>expecting the current school loan debtors to ever pay off their loans
thats how I know goldman is full of idiots.

[Anonymous No.12263145]

>>12263109
>getting degree is really good for %5 of the ones getting it
That's what bad investment means.

Also, you don't need a fucking degree to become a software developer. You can learn it yourself, make some projects, share them/make them public in github and you are good to go.

[Anonymous No.12263166]

>>12263145
in todays market you need a degree if you want to be a dev

[Anonymous No.12263172]

>>12263166
no. You need connections. And honestly time spend on hackathons and such much much much more valuable than the time you spend on shcool.

[Anonymous No.12263278]

>>12263106
It's a burger word for university

[Anonymous No.12263313]

>>12263077
Hey anon, that's basically what I'm trying to work towards right now, although I'm really only focusing on web development instead of software engineering, though I'm still really inexperienced and haven't put a lot of time into learning web dev, so im wondering if you think it would be a good decision to continue with this, or switch to something else like what you're doing. Also, how did you go about finding an apprenticeship?

[Anonymous No.12263688]

>>12262557
explain how vitalik was able to come up with Ethereum before getting his diploma

[Anonymous No.12263796]

>>12262595

top it with this IQ meme, here on this board full of NEET loser retarded this IQ meme is reapeted over and over again. Shut the fuck up, stop it damn it.
IQ isn't all.. you could also make money with other talents, like social skills, like crative thinking and a good voice becaming a singer.

College is not a meme, but the word IQ repeated over and over again here it is.

You can go to college even at math or statistics with a 95 IQ and be hired by some financial company which pays you 70k per year to make some analisis, because for the boomers degree is the first thing they look at.

[Anonymous No.12264131]

>>12263796
>IQ isn't all..
>like crative thinking and a good voice becaming a singer.

[Anonymous No.12264153]

>>12263688
He combined a bunch of ideas that other people thought of in a way that he didn't really understand, and now we have ETH which is an unfixable rube goldberg contraption.

[Anonymous No.12264163]

college is a great tool for employers to filter and find people who are more than willing to confirm your existing biases. it's a manufacturing line for thought terminating IYI's who will do whatever a piece of paper say. of course, the employers will pay a premium for highly reliable robots.

[Anonymous No.12264191]

>>12262566
/thread
Going to college to 'find yourself' and become an art major at tens of thousands a semester is a meme (unless you're a trust fund baby and college is just nothing more than a place for you to hang out for four years). Going to college on a scholarship, networking, and majoring a field that you picked based on whats actually poised to be economically viable once you're out of college is not.

[Anonymous No.12264341]

i was able to pay off my college loans in 4 years after graduating. wasn't much $$ since i commuted to a local branch for the first 2 years, and then was an RA the last 2 years on campus. highly recommended if you're paying your own way. it got my foot in the door at a big company.

[Anonymous No.12264355]

>>12262557
Biz is dumb as shit. Mega fucking dumb. Check that gold flakes thread from earlier

[Anonymous No.12265150]

>>12263796
I could see passing calc while being slightly less than average but you’re not gonna pass upper level math courses.

[Anonymous No.12265485]

>>12262557
show the percentages of people that earn that much money after they finish college and don't end up on a mcdonals like you faggot

[Anonymous No.12265496]

>>12262557
"'college is a meme' is a meme" is a meme

[Anonymous No.12265510]

>>12264355
Are you 50% or are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.12265572]

>>12264355
I don't think I want to post on /biz/ after reading the responses.

[Anonymous No.12265585]

>>12262557
Why would I go into debt for a degree that doesn’t involve becoming an engineer, a doctor or lawyer?
Every wage cuck I know is tens of thousands in debt. I don’t have any loan debt at all, just minimal credit card debt for to increase muh meme score.

[Anonymous No.12265784]

In Germoney, going to uni is literally the only way to earn decent money, if you are not born rich already.

Boomers in fact want to push the "we have too many academics" to protect the status of their spoiled brats. I cannot understand why anyone would push this retarded "college is a meme"-nonsense.

[Anonymous No.12265804]

>>12262566

[Tuba Jam No.12265874]

>>12263106
college is a term for institutions which offer undergraduate/post high school BS/BA degrees
University is a term for institutions which offer graduate/post undergrad MS/MA degrees.
Virtually all universities are colleges, but a lot of colleges aren't university.
add to this the fact that large universities often divide their undergrad offerings among many colleges under the umbrella term of the university.

[Tuba Jam No.12265884]

>>12263109
>masters is actually a waste of time
not for technical positions. Grad school is the new college.

[Tuba Jam No.12265916]

>>12263172
hackathons are important, but the types of companies which can afford to be selective enough to reject applicants who have degrees but didn't do hackathons/personal projects can be selective enough to reject applicants who did hackathons/projects but don't have a degree.

[Tuba Jam No.12265922]

>>12265585
did you go to college? what major?

[Anonymous No.12267096]

>>12265874

Gender studies student detected.

[Anonymous No.12268110]

>>12262557
>have bachelors degree I didn't even pay for
>have professional degree income

did I win?

[Anonymous No.12268128]

You will never get rich working for someone else.

[Anonymous No.12268141]

Who wants to go in debt and spend rest of his life wagecucking to pay it off when you could just start a business and retire young.

[Anonymous No.12268817]

>>12263133
College has been devalued as it has been more acessible than ever. The less available it is, the more valuable it becomes.

[Anonymous No.12268833]

>>12265496
well one thing for sure is that the college is a great meme and in 2018, memes have value.

[Anonymous No.12268921]

brainlet cope

[Anonymous No.12269399]

>>12268817
>College has been devalued as it has been more acessible than ever. The less available it is, the more valuable it becomes.

The less available it is, the more it depends on your family to get into uni and the less it depends on your skills.