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12226817 No.12226817 [Reply] [Original]

Is crypto a hedge/safe-haven for a possible stock market crash? Or are they linked and correlated?

>> No.12226838

>>12226817
If they were correlated then crypto would be tanking right now wouldn't it

>> No.12226853
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>>12226817
Yes you stupid fuck. Once the brokers are done jumping ship they'll push their customers into it so they can dump on them AGAIN. Boomers are gonna get double fucked and we are gonna get a super moon

>> No.12226919

>>12226817
No directly. BTC is a short on USD. When the feds cuts rates again (they basically have to at this point), shit is gonna hit the fan for USD.

>> No.12226965
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12226965

there's literally 0 correlation either way
anyone that tells you otherwise is a total brainlet

>> No.12226994

There’s no way people are going to risk their money in imaginary internet Chuck E. Cheese coins. Anyone else saying so is deluded. The only people trading these coins are libertarian retarded degenerates like me and the rest of biz.

Crypto is not mooning because stocks are crashing and people are hedging. It is because BTC dumped massively and was due for a rally. Rallies happen after sell offs. No body is saying hmm gonna go gamble on some shit coins in unregulated market.

>> No.12226997

>>12226838
Oh you mean apart from the ~90% crash since last December?

>>12226919
>>12226965
I don't doubt it, but where does that leave us. Money is going to be exiting the stock+equity market, do people look at alternative assets during crashes or do they just hoard fiat at their homes?

I've only experienced european crashes.

>> No.12227013

>>12226994
>imagine having your value on dollars

>> No.12227086

>>12226817
one market topped out
so you will buy
one market bottomed out
so you idiot will sell

>> No.12227144
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12227144

Well one thing is for sure. This crash/recession/collapse is gonna be brutal.
Based on the uncertainty of this decade and the decades to come, i see atleast 15% of people in US, EU, China as well, jumping from their windows in a desperate attempt at human flight.
Not sure if anything will ever again moon as it did in previous times.
Perhaps I am just the guy on the street, standing with a "Doomsday" sign, fuck if I know.

>> No.12227160

>>12227144
>this time itll be different

in 10 years from now we will be in another bull market as it has always happened. Everything works in cycles in life

>> No.12227345

>>12227160
I am well aware of the economic/political/social cycles of the past, but the thing is, humanity was never at any point in history equipped with this ability to communicate instantly, almost telepathically with one another.
Think about this in terms of political sway certain ideas can have if implanted consciously or subconsciously via association, using this new telepathic ability.
Think about how certain influencial figures could have the power to manipulate a whole country (out of fear or by releasing a new philosophically sound idea, which sounds good on paper) into adopting a new political/economic system just by making a few, let's say tweets as an allegory, and subsequently burning down the "old and outdated" systems, and all in good intention of course.
With the rise of nu-fashizm, nu-communism, some other nu-shit and with people being so unsatisfied and so miserable these days, seems highly plausible.

>> No.12227401

>>12226817
Correlated. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand that BTC is still a speculative asset. In financially stressful times, nobody is flocking to buy BTC to hedge USD. If anything, bagholders are liquidating in much higher volumes to afford rent, food, etc. Once BTC has reached a certain point where it's proven itself as a veritable network, then it could be looked at as a counter to USD.

tl;dr: If the economy tanks, BTC tanks -- for now.

>> No.12227406

>>12226997
>Since December

Okay listen faggot, at that point stocks were bullish, what's your fucking point?

>> No.12227419
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>>12227144
A 50% correction from current levels is in line with both TA (previous tops become support) and historical valuations relative to GDP and corporate profits. Continued Fed interest rate rises will spell the end of easy money, which will severely impact overlevered companies who have been relying on easy debt to fund buybacks, dividends, and other nonproductive uses of capital.

>> No.12227500

>>12227419
I am not disagreeing with you, you are correct in every regard, based on the previous data and the current economical model.

>> No.12227512

>>12227401
This is what Ive always assumed. People will be forced to sell their crypto to afford bills in a recession.