/smg/ - Santa Market General

[Anonymous No.12224416]

In the end it was truly a Nightmare before Christmas vol.2

>I'm new to the stock market, what stocks should I buy?
Before you buy anything, make a brokerage account and read investopedia articles and/or the books in the OP list. If you don't have a broker, you can't buy stocks, and if you blindly buy things without understanding how the stock market works or doing any research on the individual stocks you're buying, you will lose money and it will be entirely your fault.

Real-time Santa Tracking:
https://santatracker.google.com/intl/en/tracker.html

List of popular brokers:
https://pastebin.com/mrSchZPg

List of basic stock market terminology for newfags:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth technical analysis charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
https://pastebin.com/y9PRQLR3

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

Basic rundown on options:
https://pastebin.com/vWhvyuCd

Suggested books:
https://pastebin.com/jgA5zTuC

Basic Rundown on Santa Claus:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/krampus-could-come-you-holiday-season-180957438/

People on the Naughty List:
>>12223318

[Anonymous No.12224420]

GOLDEN BULL COMING BACK AFTER CHRISTMAS MIRACLE

[Anonymous No.12224445]

what kind of trap is it when people wait for the bull trap to sell but it never comes?

[Anonymous No.12224446]

>>12224414
I don't think Trump shitting on Fed publicly in Twtr is helping either.

[Anonymous No.12224447]

YOU’RE A ROTTEN ONE

[Anonymous No.12224448]

The USA will be Drumpf's 7th bankruptcy. Screencap this.

[Anonymous No.12224452]

RETARDS STILL BELIEVE WE'RE NOT GOING FULL RECESSION

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12224453]

Nice work on OP images <3

[Anonymous No.12224454]

Zoomer here, I can't remember the 2008 reccesion.
How are reccesion like? What happens during the market crash to society?

[Anonymous No.12224460]

*ahem*
FUCK BOBO
FUCK SHORTERS
FUCK PUTS
FUCK BEARS

[Anonymous No.12224465]

>TFW moved all accounts (401k && vanguard post tax acct) to cash on Dec 10
>TFW i got lucky timing the market
>Acct value of 60k preserved

Was planning on selling before Dec 19, but damn i got lucky with the timing.


That's it, i got lucky. Preserved long term gains from the last 3 years.

[Anonymous No.12224466]

>>12224420
lmao

[Anonymous No.12224470]

>>12224453
@_@ ty
am wanted to do this onahole one but its not family friendly enough

[Anonymous No.12224472]

>>12224454
Have you ever seen the movie Threads? If not, watch it now. This is a glimpse of our future.

[Anonymous No.12224476]

this sucks

[Anonymous No.12224481]

>>12224470
Fuck I hate that I don't have sisters.

[Anonymous No.12224482]

>>12224454
your dad loses his job and your parents start fighting more

it ends in divorce

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12224483]

>>12224470
Y-yeah I saw that one

[Anonymous No.12224488]

>>12224420
Not that soon but yeah it will obviously come back, the question now is.. where's the bottom

[Anonymous No.12224490]

>>12224465
I wouldn't use this luck to market time in the future. You might get lucky a couple of times by market timing, but just like gambling you're bound to fuck up and lose out too. People usually don't talk about their failures at market timing, only their successes.

[Anonymous No.12224494]

what do i buy on the way down if i am looking to retire in 15 years? do i buy boomer tier slow moving divvy shit like T or KO, or do i just keep loading up index funds knowing they will recover ultimately and cost average in to a sweet price

[Anonymous No.12224498]

my only thing in Green is Fresh del fucking Monte produce

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12224504]

I want to die

[Anonymous No.12224505]

>>12224494
Check out /r/financialindependence. Load up on index funds, not individual stocks, if you want to ensure retiring early.

[Anonymous No.12224506]

Time to watch the Big Short again on a comfy Dec.24 evening

[Anonymous No.12224512]

>>12224504
Ahahaha

[Anonymous No.12224514]

>>12224494
Dogs of the Dow

[Anonymous No.12224515]

>>12224454

It is impossible to find a job. You have to move in with your parents. If they're not already divorced, they will be when one of them loses their job and 1 single income supports your family and entire extended family for 18-24 months. It wasn't until 2011 that things really turned around. 2008 was the start. It lasted a bit over 2 years. Unemployment in a lot of areas was over 30% for people aged 18-24. Part time work was the best you could find. I had to work 3 jobs to survive. There was no spending money and you're left counting pennies for every grocery item.

[Anonymous No.12224527]

>>12224512
>Anon saved his mom tens of thousands of dollars

What a good son

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12224528]

>>12224512
You're still wrong, never give financial advice to family if you're an 18 year old sperg
They'll find a way to blame you for anything bad in the end

[Anonymous No.12224531]

Who else /long and proud/? Normies and media are losing their minds. We are at PEAK FEAR. Now is the time to start scaling in. We officially hit the bear market headline today so normies will start panic selling. There is ZERO chance we are going below 230 without cooling down. Good 15-25% retrace of you pick your stocks right

[Anonymous No.12224535]

>>12224470
omg just had super genius idea

[Anonymous No.12224541]

>>12224490
I agree with everything you said. I highly doubt I will be able to duplicate what I did in this environment of randomness.

At this point im going to ride some CDs for 2019 and eventually DCA into ETFs again.

[Anonymous No.12224548]

Bros I work for a county 911 EMS service, am I gonna lose my job? Or is the government gonna keep me comfy? It feels like the only people that are gonna get btfo by a full on recession are people that work for sales-based companies.

[Anonymous No.12224549]

>>12224416
stop baking at 290 you fucking niggre

[Anonymous No.12224551]

lmao fuck apple

[Anonymous No.12224555]

>>12224531
Of course, and money will just be put in monthly anyway. Dividends will keep increasing each year to buy even more cheapies as well

[Anonymous No.12224565]

fuck me

[Anonymous No.12224568]

D-dollar cost averaging will save us in the long run

[Anonymous No.12224575]

>>12224535
ok the ultimate synthesis of holiday cheer, bulltard bashing, and typographic thumbnail kinography

[Anonymous No.12224577]

I’m down close to 20k since October. All in TQQQ. I do have some cash on the side. Tell me what to do

[Anonymous No.12224589]

>>12224577
sell on open

[Anonymous No.12224592]

>>12224470
>>12224535
>>12224575
What is this from? Sauce?

[Anonymous No.12224599]

>>12224505
this is what ive been doing but i just wanted to make sure

i save about 40% of my income, buying QQQ and SPY exclusively

[Anonymous No.12224605]

>>12224548
Nah, it’s going to be low skill workers and uncredentialed office cucks that will feel the burn. Jewish mothers holy trinity will be fine and so will state/government jobs.

[Anonymous No.12224608]

>>12224575
This is the best one. Less clutter and the SMG is in tact and not separated.

[Anonymous No.12224611]

>>12224605
Basado. I’ll be buying this juicy dip™

[Anonymous No.12224628]

>>12224599
Good, anon, good. Same here, plan to retire at 47 at the latest. (I did the professional school meme so I didn't start investing until late twenties.) Don't give into individual stock memes. For that, have a side account that caps at 5% or something of your total investments if you really want.

[Anonymous No.12224647]

>>12224577
Double down on TQQQ before the facemelting Galaxy Bullrun

[Anonymous No.12224692]

>>12224647
this. If the retarded bears think we can keep going down like this everyday, they are even more disconnected from reality than /pol/

[Anonymous No.12224731]

DUDE WEED PUBLIC SERVICE WARNING

wooooEEEEEEEoooo woooooooEEEEEEoooooo

Attention all who are dabbling in the Canadian dude weed sector. Canadian weed ETF broke a critical low support today. It did, however, manage to rally back above before close. High probability of bearish continuation on Canada based companies such as Canopy Growth, Aphria, Aurora, Tilray. The one outlier is CRON, which is showing better support strength than the others thus far.

US based companies are still in better shape and are still breaking bullish under all this sell pressure from the broader markets. Cresco Labs and TerrAscend both finished well in the green today.

[Anonymous No.12224744]

/Food/

-Mondelez MDLZ average is 39, gonna double down at 37

-Avoided dca on CAG since crash, maybe buy at 19-18. massive failure

KHC and GIS still a good deal

-BGS still my strongest, large specs love this one

-STZ is still too sketchy to buy the dip, same with BUD.

Campbells Soup cpb is a big buy in my opinion. might hit 29

FDP is strong for now

PEPsico Is actually a good buy here

Avoid Kellogg and TSN

[Anonymous No.12224748]

>>12224531
We haven't hit peak fear yet, not until boomers realize what they have lost, and normies start getting fired.

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12224749]

>>12224731
>>12224744
based food and weed frens

[Anonymous No.12224750]

>>12224577
Lmao @ your life

[Anonymous No.12224766]

>>12224531
I will be throwing 1000 a month this coming year. So many cheapies.

[Anonymous No.12224767]

>>12224731
Aphria is up %15 for no reason. Don’t ask how much I’m still down though

[Anonymous No.12224771]

Should I feel sad if I tripled my money since 2015 and I'm down to double now?
It's only paper gains and losses, I really don't feel strongly either way.
I didn't plan to use the money anytime soon, I'm just keeping it there for the future.

[Anonymous No.12224785]

>>12224454
You family falls apart and your mom realizes she wants a man that can provide for her family. Being incapable of understanding greater market forces, she assumes your father is just a terrible man that cannot function in the working world. She leaves him for a younger dude, possibly of a different race. You now end up calling some guy whos only 5-10 years older than you and working an assistant manager job at the local McDonalds dad. His name is Chad. Your actual dad has been found at a motel with his brains blown out at this point. The market dumps harderand your Chad loses his job during the second or third wave of layoffs. Your mom sticks with him though because by now her daytime shows are reporting on the fact that shits fucked up for everyone. Chad eventually turns into an alcoholic and starts raping your mom in front of you in the living room. Your mom protests, but Chad thinks the answer is to kick you out of the house. Your mom goes along with it.
You're out on the streets and have a baby brother on the way. At least you still have 4chan.

[Anonymous No.12224788]

>>12224416
I'm dreaming of a reeeed christmas...

[Anonymous No.12224797]

>>12224771
You wouldn't be posting if you didn't already feel sad.

[Anonymous No.12224798]

>>12224628
feels good man

i also own a bunch of SSO and QLD, 2x SPY/QQQ, not fully sure its the right idea though. Might want to go back to purely buying the staple SPY QQQ but im also willing to take the risk of 2x because i have iron hands, its so tough to make decisions knowing you literally only retire once and cant fuck it up

[Anonymous No.12224801]

>>12224767
>Aphria is up %15 for no reason

Oh! Hey I missed that. Unfortunately having trouble with that falling trend line though. This is another potential outlier then.

[Anonymous No.12224803]

>>12224771
You should feel angry, and start making revenge trades to get you back to your all time high

[Anonymous No.12224812]

>>12224797
I'm worried but I don't feel like I've "lost" money, I don't know if this makes sense.

[Anonymous No.12224835]

>>12224812
I get it. You can't beat yourself up about potential gains, but I also believe that buy and hold is a meme.

[Anonymous No.12224848]

>>12224785
based chad

[Anonymous No.12224850]

>>12224812
it does. i'm in the same position. you understand that in the distant future the value will be higher so it doesn't seem "real" because until you sell, it isn't. so what does it matter if you're down 50% on paper at one point if you never sell and in the future you're up 800%? trading mentality vs long termism

[Anonymous No.12224851]

>>12224835
Buying and holding blue chippies is ez mode senpai, its not everyday you need to bail out on a company like GE.

[Anonymous No.12224862]

>>12224851
....... except for when you do. Have you checked GE out recently?

[Anonymous No.12224863]

I love how bulls can remain so optimistic and be so certain about the things they're saying when years of QE and zero interest rates have eliminated and distorted traditional trends to the point of total uncertainty

[Anonymous No.12224864]

>>12224835
Buy and hold is a meme if you're invested in some ridiculous individual stocks. But thinking buy and hold is a meme for index funds ignores financial literacy. Really depends on the circumstance.

[Anonymous No.12224865]

>>12224785
This makes me want Powell to raise the rates higher. Imagine all the sweet MILF pussy we can all be swimming in a few months from now.

[Anonymous No.12224874]

>>12224864
Yeah, I can agree with you on that.

[Anonymous No.12224875]

for all these pink wojaks all I can think about is how much more money i'm going to make when we hit the next bull run. i may be able to retire 2-3 years earlier.

[Anonymous No.12224878]

>>12224863
You mean the QE that was eliminated in 2014? Yeah we've been doing fine since then regardless of the same tried doomsday shit

[Anonymous No.12224884]

>>12224875
this bear market is giving a giant boner

[Anonymous No.12224887]

I really enjoy Trump's shit talking about the fed. It's a refreshing change from the usual tendency of government to close ranks and never air frustrations about any particular agency/department/etc.

[Anonymous No.12224889]

>>12224862
Golly I gad no idea GE shit the bed or I never would have mentioned selling that sto . . . .

[Anonymous No.12224908]

>>12224878
I mean the QE whose unwinding hasn't even ended

[Anonymous No.12224922]

>>12224875
fuck i need to find a way to make more money during this downturn for dca

[Anonymous No.12224930]

Why did I trust myself to make an informed investment.

[Anonymous No.12224931]

>>12224889
Heh, dividends though amirite?

[Anonymous No.12224940]

>>12224908
Of course not, its projected that the Fed will reduce its balance sheet a whopping 4% by 2020. So scary owo
In the mean time, higher interest rates moves money out of bonds into the sp500 over the course, so.... QT is bullish for the sp500 if you know your history

[Anonymous No.12224947]

>>12224887
There's a difference between voicing opinions and outright shiposting. His tweets are great though. I wonder if any other president will ever use social media again after Trump.

[Anonymous No.12224949]

>>12224887
Yeah it’s called level-headed, which trumptards mistake for political correctness

[Anonymous No.12224976]

>>12224452
In 50 years the current drop will be barely visible

[Anonymous No.12224977]

What should I do, /biz/? Sell everything having lost 75 bongs?

[Anonymous No.12224988]

>>12224977
sell your winners to average down on your losers

[Anonymous No.12225008]

>>12224977
you hav elike a 4 figur eportfolio

buy index funds and fuck off, its not worth wasting time on that shit actually making trdes

[Anonymous No.12225053]

So when this pops and the socialist wave erupts what will the gov give us? I want Medicare for all a guaranteed income and a free apartment

[Anonymous No.12225065]

>>12225053
i want you to kys, all socialists deserve to be thrown from helicopters

[Anonymous No.12225069]

Leftypol raiding the entirety of biz for the umpteenth time, so tiresome

[Anonymous No.12225070]

>>12225053
free internet, free netflix/hulu, and free weed too

[Anonymous No.12225081]

>>12225053
I want a new pickup truck and a sexbot from Santa.

[Anonymous No.12225131]

Are there any of you guys here that lost a lot of money? I lost 700$ on options, I learned to be careful with these.

[Anonymous No.12225136]

>>12225069
In the times of the modern Idiocracy, bear markets don't just summon doomsayers. It summons progressives who think doom is salvation.

[Anonymous No.12225151]

>>12225069
imagine thinking a corporation will be your salvation

[Anonymous No.12225155]

>>12224878
Essentially qe was not eliminated because as the payments came in and everything matured they just issued more debt. It was never allowed to die naturally. They just started selling the underlying assets (thus reducing the money supply)

[Anonymous No.12225158]

>>12225069
When do we ban californians from the internet?

[Anonymous No.12225167]

>>12225131
dont call $700 a lot of money kiddo

[Anonymous No.12225170]

>>12224988
that's some retarded advice right there.

[Anonymous No.12225175]

>>12225151
corporations have been our salvation, they've catapulted the economy forward with innovation, efficiency and profit.

imagine thinking the government will be your salvation you fucking retard. might as well become a pregnant welfare queen with no discernible skills except sucking from the teet of actual producers

[Anonymous No.12225177]

>>12225131
Im down like 800 bucks, 15%.

Buying cheapies helps me cope.

[Anonymous No.12225184]

>>12225131
i'm currently down approximately 30K of unrealized losses since September. But guess what? Its immaterial because i'm not selling (hopefully ever)

[Anonymous No.12225189]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOooooooooo AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.12225191]

>>12225167
I know. Still a noob move.

[Anonymous No.12225194]

>>12225151
Imagine thinking a government will be your salvation.

[Anonymous No.12225207]

Someone tell me why my SNAP puts are going up even thought the stock price is up ?

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12225218]

>>12224744
Thank you for this rundown!
I like K though because they have tasty cereal

[Anonymous No.12225224]

>>12225184
I'm in about the same spot. Sucks to watch but mostly irrelevant.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12225234]

>>12225207
V O L I T I L I T Y

[Anonymous No.12225237]

Why is everything crashing? Fundamentals are still the same. Is this just fear?

[Anonymous No.12225240]

>>12225177
Yeah im also looking to buy cheap stocks
>>12225184
Yeah thats the problem with options. You need to be skilled to not loose everything when the market fucks up. However TQQQ is also getting JUSTed right now and I think it will be long before the price go back to ~70$

[Anonymous No.12225255]

>>12225237
Yeas its mostly fear. Get ready to buy stocks when the market recover

[Anonymous No.12225257]

>>12224785
Can confirm. This happened to me in 07-09

[Anonymous No.12225260]

>>12225207
You shouldn't be trading options if you don't know option Greeks. Taking what you say at face value, it'd be because you have positive Vega and IV increased substantially.

[Anonymous No.12225284]

>>12224490

Nobody ever went bankrupt taking a profit.

[Anonymous No.12225288]

>>12225237
>The fundamentals are still the same

[Anonymous No.12225289]

>>12225255
I've been buying on the way down but man it hurts right now.

[Anonymous No.12225296]

>>12224785
Daddy Chaddy

[Anonymous No.12225300]

>>12224865
Good meme lol

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12225302]

>>12225288
>GALT
>LCI
>SPY
>the fundamentals are still the same
>nothing has changed

[Anonymous No.12225301]

>>12225288
Whats different besides slight interest rate increases (which didn't even happen in Canada)

[Anonymous No.12225306]

>>12225155
I fail to see the issue
With credit spreads low (thanks to tax cuts) theres no risk of broad market credit risk. So why was this issuing of debt bad

[Anonymous No.12225310]

why dont you retard bulls wait for the bottom before buying? Do you seriously think there's going to be a roaring 50%+ rally out of nowhere? The market goes sideways before it starts going up again.

[Anonymous No.12225314]

>>12225237
because the prices were never based on fundamentals

[Anonymous No.12225319]

After all my years on 4chan I have never seen such an consummate OP as the current one. Her work is exquisite and provocative. To call her threads art wouldn't be an understatement.

Bravo.

[Anonymous No.12225330]

>>12225310
Because timing the market is impossible and averaging into your position is the least risky way to go about it.

[Anonymous No.12225332]

>>12225289
Best thing to do is to buy blue chip stocks. Banks, visa, spy/dj etf. But I will wait a little before buying, until the market stabilizes and starts recovering

[Anonymous No.12225353]

>>12225310
please, tell me exactly where the bottom is. Because stats show that if you miss the biggest trading days, you can go from 11% gain to like a 1% gain over the year. its better to just cost average and stay in the game than miss the big plays

[Anonymous No.12225361]

>>12225310
"Waiting for the bottom" is retarded because nobody knows when the body is. 10% drop is still a 10% drop. That it theoretically could drop to 15% next week doesn't change the fact that it's still 10% discount today. So, you buy today, and then you buy in two weeks with your next paycheck, and the following two weeks with your paycheck then, and so forth. You never know when you're at the top or at the bottom, and because you can't know and the market could either rise further or drop further, you just buy when you have money.

[Anonymous No.12225378]

>>12224592
her name is Zangyaku-san, which means Cruelty-San.
She tortures / kills pedofiles. PEDOS BTFO!

>>12224608
thank you, am thinking so too

>>12225301
well, not that you arent right
but am more talking about the "hands over ears lalala" reaction of your post. The market is TELLING you something is wrong!

>>12225302
G-gpro i-s is still over $4
w-w-inning

>>12225319
Thank you, thank you.
It is nice to see an fellow Anon with such discerning taste in threads.

It's my honor to create threads for this fine community.

[Anonymous No.12225379]

>>12225310
because the market is like an elastic band and the vix is 33, but its not like permaBears have much money to trade anyway lol

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12225412]

>>12225302
GALT bottomed out today, my man
It's going to bounce very soon

[Anonymous No.12225441]

>>12224512
What's really sad about this image is if this market rebounds, and anon's mom really did withdraw from her accounts, she almost guaranteed won't put it back in the market in enough time to gain on the rebound, so she'll have locked in on 15% loss (assuming withdrawal on December 20/21 from the height) to her retirement account.

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12225450]

>>12225441
this is why you hold

[Anonymous No.12225456]

>>12225301
>Whats different
People not being able to afford a house in places like Vancouver unless they're making like $150k a year.
The stock market being propped up on QE, low interest rates and massive stock buybacks.
The fact that we're on the tail-end of a huge 10 year bullrun and that stocks are as expensive as they have ever been.
>what's the same?
The fact that a lot of the bad dept instruments that lead up to the 2008 crash still exist in some form of another.
The fact that the system contains tonnes of bad dept, and that dept in general has skyrocketed since 08.

[Anonymous No.12225474]

>>12225441
>if this market rebounds
Of course it will fucking rebound

[Anonymous No.12225483]

>>12225330
>martingale strategy
>>12225353
>>12225361
>>12225379
hopeless causes. I dont know when the bottom is but I can tell you its not today and its not tomorrow and its not when the vix is at new highs every day. wait for shit to calm down then invest.

[Anonymous No.12225491]

>>12225234
>>12225260

Yeah I don't know all that fancy shit I just now if you have a put option and stock price goes up, generally the option price will go down.. but that's not the case here

[Anonymous No.12225494]

>>12225474
Not if but when

[Anonymous No.12225497]

Britbongs, any ETF recommendations for the long term?

[Anonymous No.12225518]

>>12225497
by a leveraged SPX once we crash

[Anonymous No.12225542]

>>12225518
why not buy leveraged SP500 as we go down too to get a quality average price

[Anonymous No.12225551]

[Anonymous No.12225552]

/smg/, what is your honest opinion of President Donald J. Trump?

[Anonymous No.12225589]

>>12225552
I want to believe that he is just incompetent and not a total idiot that managed to get elected as the president of the USA, but tbqh he's not helping me

[Anonymous No.12225590]

>>12225552
Hes doing a much better job than I ever thought he would and im pissed about his antigun shit lately.

[Anonymous No.12225606]

>>12225542
Because that would be retarded, just wait till we're definitely going up and you'll do way better.

[Anonymous No.12225620]

>>12225589
don't lie to yourself. he's literally so deranged/senile his handlers can't even stand to be around him anymore, even for the sake of the economy

[Anonymous No.12225623]

>>12225310
wait til the VIX calms the fuck down sometime after 2019.

[Anonymous No.12225646]

>>12225552
huge scumbag that was the best option available

[Anonymous No.12225653]

>>12225483
Of course it's not tomorrow, anon, the market is closed tomorrow!

[Anonymous No.12225660]

>>12225589
>>12225620
>muh drumph crazy
>muh drumph dumb
>muh drumph insane

Literally recycled bitches about every "conservative" politician/candidate in the last 20 years.

[Anonymous No.12225675]

>>12225552
I enjoy the market since it's easy to predict a jittery one. But he keeps screwing shit up for himself, like.. who the hell bashes their own choice of chair of the Federal Reserve in hope of helping the markets? Obviously people will view it negative as fuck.. it just doesn't make sense. If you want to put tariffs on the second largest market on earth, then you have to keep your own market safe and secure.. which Trump clearly doesn't seem to understand. He still views the chinese as a billion strong army of retarded rice farmers.
BUT! I truly hope he's successful because I don't want chinese overlords and I enjoy the movement of the markets.. but it's clearly not going well for him and the western world right now, mostly because Trump is fighting with most of the western world while fighting a trade war. Everyone knows the reason we crushed China decades ago were because of Europe and US banding together to absolutely smash them down to the ground, but Trump is lonely and he obviously can't do it by himself without taking the US market down with him.

[Anonymous No.12225688]

>>12225552
he is crashing the economy, orange retard doesn't know that cutting the taxes for the (((rich))) NEVER works

[Anonymous No.12225693]

>>12225675
>who the hell bashes their own choice of chair of the Federal Reserve
either you do or your adversaries across the isle criticize you for it

[Anonymous No.12225715]

>>12225552
Jewish puppet

[Anonymous No.12225737]

I can't handle it anymore. Selling is more reasonable at this point. Maybe put some money into inverse leveraged ETFs.

[Anonymous No.12225741]

>>12225660
trump makes reagan (senile,) and bush (low iq) look tame

[Anonymous No.12225744]

>>12225301
If you think we actually "recovered" in 2008 you aren't paying attention.

[Anonymous No.12225754]

>>12224498
SHOULDA BOUGHT SOME SNAP

[Anonymous No.12225759]

>>12225737
Dont touch that BAC we're at the bigboy support for XLF
youre about to see a MASSIVE bounce

[Anonymous No.12225761]

Would you say BRK.B is a good buy at this point or should I wait longer?

[Anonymous No.12225764]

>>12225759
I've learned never to trust a bull.

[Anonymous No.12225767]

>>12225761
Great buy in this environment, but you could always average down.

[Anonymous No.12225769]

>>12225378
No no no
Truely

Thank you

[Anonymous No.12225776]

>>12225737
>I can't handle it anymore. Selling is more reasonable at this point. Maybe put some money into inverse leveraged ETFs.
Do what you gotta do to stay 25k senpai

[Anonymous No.12225788]

>>12225776
You mean 20K, since selling will fuck me in the ass with taxes, right?
Either way, doesn't matter, I'm sick of everything going down, I still have rent to pay.

[Anonymous No.12225791]

so what's /biz/ next step? Hold and lose?

[Anonymous No.12225798]

>>12225761
It's a short. aapl has more to fall. transports and financials will be hit.

[Anonymous No.12225799]

>>12225791
go all in bitcoin

[Anonymous No.12225812]

>>12224692
It has to bounce sometime... r-right? I'm gonna buy some TQQQ on open Wednesday and sell for SQQQ cuz this shit is still going down

[Anonymous No.12225813]

Merry Christmas buds

[Anonymous No.12225817]

would it be madness to buy a small plot of land insead of a house and just camp on it? I'm kind of tempted honestly.

[Anonymous No.12225818]

>>12225799
Which one? Bitcoin private price being suppressed I may get that one.

[Anonymous No.12225823]

>>12225813
forgot image

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12225830]

>>12225791
use half to buy altcoins and half to short berkshire hathaway

[Anonymous No.12225833]

>>12225823
Can't wait for our capitalist system to completely collapse on itself so that we can be taken over by a different group of corrupt, evil retards.

[Anonymous No.12225836]

>>12225788
>i still have rent to pay
you should only be investing what you're saving. make a budget and earmark everything that's necessities (rent/mortgage, car payment, car insurance payments, etc.) and then invest most of what's left over an sock away some money in a high interest savings account for emergencies.

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12225847]

>>12225684
enjoy locking in your losses, my man

[Anonymous No.12225857]

>>12225788
>rent
Wtf are you even doing in the stock market without a real estate hedge?

[Anonymous No.12225865]

>>12225791
Shorting the trad market while going short term bullish in the crypto market

[Anonymous No.12225868]

>>12225847
You sir, are saying some very irresponsible things.

[Anonymous No.12225874]

>>12225053
I just want the government to deport all communists via helicopter

[Anonymous No.12225876]

>>12225741
Typical partisan cheerleader, aka NPC cumslurper.

[Anonymous No.12225884]

>>12225857
Some of us get our inheritance differently than a cash check. And I'm a zoomer, I won't be able to afford a house as long as I live.

>>12225847
You mean having money to live, while the value of the dollar still holds some meaning?

[Anonymous No.12225893]

Is crypto a good hedge against the collapsing stock market?

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12225895]

>>12225868
>>12225884
AHHHHHHH THE ENTIRE STONK MARKET IS GOING TO 0
SELL SELL SELL WE'RE ALL GOING TO LOSE EVERYTHING

[Anonymous No.12225896]

>>12225884
CONDO. Literally anything is better than being a rent cuck.

[Anonymous No.12225900]

Dividends are your frens. Only regret I have is buying Ford early today.

[Anonymous No.12225901]

>>12225737
Youre only down 3%?
Relax you big baby.

[Anonymous No.12225927]

>>12225552
absolutely BASED. people who think otherwise are just snowflakes who want big govvy to pay for everything

[Anonymous No.12225941]

>>12225884
>you have to be a trustfund baby to own a house

Never going to make it.

[Baggie !!2wgod7RQeJh No.12225950]

>>12225927
this

[Anonymous No.12225952]

kek, this year I made $9.29 per hour on a 40 hour work week doing absolutely nothing other than investing my money and letting my mutual funds be run by smart people. based passive income

if you're not earning money while you sleep, you'll work until you're dead.

[Anonymous No.12225960]

>>12225552
>bump-stock ban with wording allowing ATF to eventually ban all semi-autos
>not actually being tough on immigration in ways that actually matter, and we can't even get the wall

I mean there doesn't seem to be a lot of reason to like him if you're either side.

[Anonymous No.12225962]

>>12225240
>TQQQ
Hohohooooooly shit this is so bad.
DESU I think we're only going to get much worse before we get better. How do I short this shit? Should I buy an inverse ETF?

[Anonymous No.12225963]

>>12225941
Zoomers find the idea of a “starter” house or condo distasteful for some reason. It’s McMansion or nothing.

[Anonymous No.12225979]

>>12225833
That's not fair.
Not all capitalist are "corrupt, evil, retards".

[Anonymous No.12225981]

>>12225895
>when your "ironic" pooposts are unironically correct

[Anonymous No.12225991]

Guess where we're going, lads.

[Anonymous No.12225998]

Got 1500 bucks for Xmas. Buy spy before New year's or spread it out over 6 months?

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12226014]

>>12225981

[Anonymous No.12226017]

>>12225998
all in at open on Wednesday.

[Anonymous No.12226025]

>>12225998
Just all in on puts

[Anonymous No.12226040]

>>12225991
Not the moon, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.12226044]

>>12225158
californians run the internet, m8

[Anonymous No.12226050]

>>12225896
What's the average price of a condo in Arizona? I'll think about it.

[Anonymous No.12226087]

>>12225896
why is buying better when you are paying the entire house price in interest alone? plus upkeep and lack of moving options without insane closing costs

[Anonymous No.12226089]

>>12226014
why cant you just admit that you woulda been better off selling

>>12225991
;_;
me style of trading is becoming less and less effective the lower it goes

what makes matterrs worse is 2014-2016 minuet data is expensive T_T

[Anonymous No.12226095]

>>12225876

[Anonymous No.12226102]

>>12225952
at a 5% yield this is nearly $400k

if you cant make it on having $400k cash then yeah your a failure

[Anonymous No.12226112]

>>12225552
He's a gigantic pain in the ass but was our best choice this last election.

We now have to suffer due to our political elite class being shockingly stupid and corrupt.

Trump needs to quit Twitter. Lots of people need to drop the Trump derangement syndrome.

[Anonymous No.12226120]

>>12226089
>does nothing but link guro
>isn't making a killing driving the ES_F to the grave and molesting its corpse
what a boner killer

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12226123]

>>12226089
>why cant you just admit that you woulda been better off capitulating

the fundamentals of the companies I own haven't changed, so I have no reason to sell
i can handle short term losses

[Anonymous No.12226124]

Oil is in freefall. Economic depression confirmed.

[Anonymous No.12226127]

>>12224465
>>12224490

I was thinking about doing it early december but forgot. I can't decide if I should sell some now or wait for some sort of bounce to move a part of my 401k to Cash. What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.12226139]

>>12226124
Opec won't let that shit slide

[Anonymous No.12226146]

>>12226139
They can't do shit if the demand totally ceases.

[Anonymous No.12226178]

>>12226146
implying oil demand can cease when everybody drives to work every day

[Anonymous No.12226221]

>>12226178
The market is pricing in a huge decline in commercial shipping, rail, and air traffic. Those are the biggest consumers of petroleum.

[Anonymous No.12226228]

>>12226087
That doesn’t matter because you will only be in that property for at most 1/3 of the mortgage before you flip it into something better or rent it out and get some other cuck to pay your mortgage. Yeah, mortgage amortization schedules suck but you can either start building a little equity now or just flush that rent check straight down the drain.

[Anonymous No.12226238]

>>12226178
People have large strategic reserves of oil so my understanding is it can slide a lot if OPEC countries are going to need to create oil for revenue and demand slides in the future.

[Anonymous No.12226246]

>>12226221
Sure buddy

[Anonymous No.12226261]

>>12226228
so what your saying is the idea is instead of renting some apartment for 800/month

get a mortgage for 1000/month, 30 year fixed presumably, live tehre for 10 years, then buy another and rent out the old one to cover its mortgage after rent increases are factored in and keep building equity there for free?

[Anonymous No.12226264]

>>12226246
That what happens during an economic downturn, in case you're too young to remember.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12226278]

>>12226123
Dude you don't panic because you're a poorfag like most of us. You have less than a $1000, you could lose 100% and be fine. >>12225737 actually has a reason to worry, he has more than just pocket change
Have some fucking empathy, stop giving shit advice or kill yourself. No one cares about your sub 1k account

[Anonymous No.12226280]

>>12226264
You need a huge recession for demand to drop more than opecs cuts.

[Anonymous No.12226306]

>>12225759
theres no way to tell when the bounce will happen or if it will take us above our current levels. What is far easier to knwo is that we are going lower.

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12226307]

>>12226278
>Have some fucking empathy, stop giving shit advice or kill yourself

do you think any actual financial advisor would tell him panic selling is a good idea

[Anonymous No.12226325]

>>12226307
has any financial adviser ever said to sell? if the answer is no, then you know how shit their advice is.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12226337]

>>12226307
That's up to him and his financial advisor and him, not some smug faggot who's mommy gave him $1000 to waste on shitty biotech memes
Do you not understand why you're insufferable?
Anon has $25k that he's trying to figure out what to do with in the face of a major economic slump with actual real life consequences
Please die

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12226339]

>>12226325
>if the answer is no, then you know how shit their advice is

some people have a timeframe longer than 5 seconds, my man

[Anonymous No.12226349]

>>12226307
Even though I'm the one being talked about here, financial advisors won't ever tell you to sell because their job is based around you making moves and throwing money around. If they said "sell and hold for a year until the market shows real recovery" then you wouldn't be coming to them for a year and they'd be out of a job.

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12226353]

>>12226337
then he shouldn't be talking to anons on 4chan about this, dumbass
go get rejected by some women or something

[Anonymous No.12226358]

worst christmas eve ever. is it a meme or is it real. so real that the recession can't even wait until after christmas.

[Anonymous No.12226362]

>>12226339
>using an exponential chart
wow your right if I bought all my stocks 100 years ago I'd be a fool to sell

[Anonymous No.12226368]

>>12226325
yes. Most follow the yield curve. Tons of financial advisors use it to tell you when to get out like Ken Morraif

>>12226306
Actually theres a bounce 100% of the time when using monthly technical (basic supports and bollingers) for indices, they are just rare.. like now

[Anonymous No.12226384]

Fucking drumpf

[Anonymous No.12226388]

>>12226261
Or you know, waste your life trying to fix up the place to be "flippable" when all you really want is a place to relax at the end of the day.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12226398]

>>12226353
>don't talk about stocks
>on a stock market general
Cope harder. Try to do something more useful than post faggot pictures and smug post to people with 25 times the size of your portfolio mommy gave you from her crack whore business
/end of autistic sperg out
FUCK pretentious niggers rub me the wrong way

[Anonymous No.12226404]

>>12226368
not saying a bounce wont happen, I'm saying you have no idea at what level it will happen. it would happen at our current level, 2280 or 2200 or fear could drive it even lower. nothing says we need to bounce above our current level.

>>12226339
listen to conventional "wisdom" then. I am staying short until the fed cuts interest rates and not going long until the rate is 0-0.5%.

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12226415]

>>12226349
historically speaking, buying and holding is the strategy that's worked best in the long term
obviously, this isn't the best place to get professional advice about this issue, but I think you knew that from the beginning
i'm just giving you my personal opinion, it's ultimately your decision, obviously

>>12226398
sorry you can't handle a bit of lighthearted banter, my man

[Anonymous No.12226418]

>>12226261
>live there 10 years
God no. The average rental property takes 4 years to break even on a mortgage/rent basis. I meant just own the thing for 10 years. You can either pay $800 that you have zero chance of seeing again or you can pay $1000 to have $300 go to equity with that equity building ratio increasing the longer you own the property.

[Anonymous No.12226426]

>>12226280
That's the entire fucking point.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12226457]

>>12225310
>>12225361
A recession is likely in the near future, that will be lower than this.

[Anonymous No.12226465]

>>12226457
How do you know? Are you Nostradamus?

[Anonymous No.12226470]

What are good dividend giving stocks to buy right now? Any giving over 5%?

[Anonymous No.12226471]

>>12226415
>historically speaking, buying and holding is the strategy that's worked best in the long term
Buying good business at good prices and holding. Not buying overpriced shit as the bubble pops and coping.

[Anonymous No.12226473]

>>12226404
>not saying a bounce wont happen, I'm saying you have no idea at what level it will happen
Yes I do. I said 100% probability. Every single Index will bounce when its over extended from the bollinger band on the monthly
The actual spread of the "extension" doesnt matter because the worst that can happen is that it bounces back to your entry and you lose nothing
1 0 0 % probability

[Anonymous No.12226499]

Just fucken hold dudes. Im down 22k and have no worries because I have three decades before it matters.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12226511]

>>12226465
You don't need to be an oracle to see the writing on the wall, company's are over leveraged, tight labor market and tariffs are squeezing company profits, higher rates are reducing liquidity and increasing defaults. More generally, capitalism is unstable, it crashes on a regular basis and we're overdue.

[Anonymous No.12226526]

>>12226499
same sorta but i can't fathom working 30 more years without kms

[Anonymous No.12226527]

>>12226473
>100%
not even factoring in this retardation, I still lose delta on options.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12226529]

>>12226415
>historically speaking, buying and holding is the strategy that's worked best in the long term
Depends what time frame you mean by long term. 30-40 years? Yeah. 10-15 years? Not necessarily.

[Anonymous No.12226532]

>>12226095
>no u the image

You jokers are beyond parody
Thx 4 the (you)s :^)

[Anonymous No.12226541]

can someone tell me how to turn off the santa hats?

[Anonymous No.12226548]

>>12226470
As far as I know no big players have cut their dividend.

[Anonymous No.12226554]

>>12226527
well then stop using leverage like a fool
You can also backtest what I told you and see that Im correct. Look at XLF during the entire 2008 downturn

[Anonymous No.12226558]

>>12226511
Centralized meddling creates those bubbles.

[Anonymous No.12226562]

>>12226541
install gentoo

[Anonymous No.12226566]

>>12224452
>using linear scale for an index that has gone from literally 1 to 2500 throughout its history

[Anonymous No.12226577]

>>12226526
If you have good people you are working with it barely feels like work sometimes.

[Anonymous No.12226579]

S&P now officially oversold on weekly. Is bull trap bounce time.

[Anonymous No.12226587]

>>12226562
wtf is gentoo? last time i just selected a different style but it doesnt work now

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.12226591]

>>12225302
sshhhh.. just join in on LCI it's almost time.

>>12225412
>GALT bottomed out today
That wasn't GALT and whatever was "bottoming out" had nothing to do with the market.

[Anonymous No.12226596]

>>12226566
what's more important knowing if the price went up 20 points 100 years ago or 200 points today?

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.12226602]

>>12225737
Just put everything into LCI

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12226604]

>>12226558
Rates would have been low with or without the Fed, higher accumulation has created an over supply of loanable funds and thus encourages lending.

[Anonymous No.12226612]

>>12226278
>empathy
Chill your shit, fundamentals dont change with the size of the account either. 1000 or 1million you shouldnt be risky if youre not prepared to lose money or hold out for the long haul.

[Anonymous No.12226613]

>>12226596
If the price went up 20 points 100 years ago, then that'd represent an insane return of at least 150%. If it went up 200 points today, then it represents a return of like 0.10%. The returns matter, not the numbers.

[Anonymous No.12226616]

>>12226558
No, it's the (((debt cycle))). Git gud fagt.

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.12226624]

>>12226278
>Have some fucking empathy, stop giving shit advice or kill yourself. No one cares about your sub 1k account
Irony

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12226636]

>>12224452
>>12226566
>>12226613
When adjusted for inflation S and P growth is largely linear.

[Anonymous No.12226639]

>>12226613
scale aside you see my point

[Anonymous No.12226668]

>>12226639
I just think less data will be squished, and thus easier to see some resistence and support levels for the index in recent times since growth has been insane since 2009. For instance, you don't see 2110 on the linear chart as an approximate range where resistence became support.

[Anonymous No.12226684]

>>12226554
apply your retarded method to any stock that went to 0 or the Nikkei or the dot com crash. buying for a bounce just because prices are two standard deviations below normal is retarded when you can see the average shifting.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12226688]

>>12226591
If LCI hits 3.41 I will unironically put $500 in and say you're right
>>12226624
I taste the irony, but at least I have 3k :^)

[Anonymous No.12226706]

>>12226684
I specifically said Indice, I understand this doesnt work well with stocks (although it does for most megacaps)
And yes, it works perfectly with Nikkei backtested since 1985 :3

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12226707]

>>12226636
Actually that's a bad chart, my bad.

[Anonymous No.12226757]

>>12226706
>"works"
I don't call being underwater for 15 years to get even working.

[Anonymous No.12226781]

I am financially ruined

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12226783]

>>12226706
Do you use finviz or trading view for backtesting lolz?

[Anonymous No.12226793]

>>1222678
HODL strong my brother. Trump will save us.

[Anonymous No.12226798]

Me have never seen SPY 5 freakin dollars below VWAP before

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.12226802]

>>12226688
just start now....

>>12226688
>I taste the irony, but at least I have 3k :^)
That's peanuts...

[Anonymous No.12226807]

>>12226781
don't worry senpai you'll make it

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12226816]

>>12226688
>at least I have 3k

3k that you have allocated in 3x leveraged ETFs

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12226820]

>>12226802
I agree I am a poorfag
LCI is barting hard. I'm not going to start until barts head is finished.

[Anonymous No.12226821]

>>12226757
that has nothing to do with the trading strategy I decribed lol. You arent buying for a total reversal in Trend. Its a reversion, aka a BOUNCE which is what this is about.

>>12226783
tradingview

[Anonymous No.12226829]

>>12225053
"socialism" in USA will be forced consumption of private goods & services. Obamacare was the template.

[Anonymous No.12226839]

If you're under 45 this is a great time to buy in. If you have no money to buy then hold. If you're old then hopefully you are in defensive positions or willing to keep working.

It's interesting to watch but none of this should cause you anymore than minor heartburn. Keep your perspective straight.

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12226845]

>>12226798
>pls don't repost to other websites

why would you ignore that poor tumblrite's request
oy vey you're stealing xir art

[Anonymous No.12226846]

>>12226829
because they are too retarded to work out how to do it normally

[Anonymous No.12226847]

>>12225053
>implying socialism in America will be anything except the mutts blaming the new American kulaks, white people, and killing them all, then wondering why the country has gone to shit.

What if instead of doing this shit with every country, we just killed Jews.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12226849]

>>12226816
WRONG. It's all in SPYD, JPM and DIS. Luckily I took the loss on UDOW two weeks ago
Also I was wrong for yelling at you, I apologize. There is nothing wrong with you, I'm just extremely autistic. I promise not to do it again!

[Anonymous No.12226856]

>>12226845
be good or be rich nigga

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12226859]

>>12226829
I'd like to think we've moved past that framework

[IAMAGIANTFAGGOT !Hu8zxOlk4Q No.12226860]

>>12226278
Empathy is for faggot trannies

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.12226861]

>>12226820
Island bottom reversal...

[Anonymous No.12226871]

With Socialism now viewed positively and Capitalism holding a negative public view how far left will a market crash push the nation?

[Anonymous No.12226873]

NEW THREAD!
Yep, its using the nail onahole pic

>>12226863
>>12226863
>>12226863
>>12226863

[Anonymous No.12226880]

>>12226821
and being outside a bollinger band does not tell you when a stock will bounce or how high. Technicals can get ignored when theres fear. I thought there would be a bounce today on technicals. I hedged with calls and closed them as soon as I did not see what I expected.

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.12226881]

>>12226849
don't worry, I don't take posts on 4chan seriously
I know that the way people interact on 4chan isn't
fully indicative of their real emotions or opinions, most of the time

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12226891]

>>12226861
>buy LCI at 3.50
>it actually goes to 15
>end with $2500
>allocate it all to responsible investments and F
C-could LCI guy help me make it??

[Anonymous No.12226924]

>>12226846
>>12226859
It has nothing to do with competence or ability to form policy.

The Tumblr socialists are the shock troops of the oligarchs. There will be millions marching in the streets for forced public consumption of private monopolies.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12226930]

>>12226847
Kulaks were peasants, and represented a rival class power to the proletariat. There's no such rival in america, and there's no industry so underdeveloped it relies on a bunch of atomized producers. It's a mistake to see the kulaks as merely an ideological scapegoat. Both the kulaks and the soviet government were largely rational actors, it was simply rational that they be enemies.

Killing the jews, however, would be purely ideological performance.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12226938]

>>12226924
>tumblr socialists crafted obamacare
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.12226972]

>>12226579

Just to put this in perspective over the last 20 years, this is currently the worst month for the S&P since October 2008. -15.75% in one month. October '08 at its worst was -28% but rebounded pretty hard up to -16% going in to November.

This is why I'm calling bounce time. Market is overextended to the downside in a way that is completely unsustainable in a single move. It will have to retrace back upwards some, cool off RSI levels, before it can set up for fresh lows on the falling trend. Eventual bottom call as far I'm concerned is still 2250-2300 range. Right on the '08 bottom - present trend line.

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.12226979]

>>12226891
After F breaks through $7 I think the first big spike will large volume would be a good time to start scaling in

[Anonymous No.12227240]

Merry Fuckin Christmas!