/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.12208759]

>>12195091
Within only 10 years, Cryptocurrency in of itself has single-handedly, completely and utterly BTFO the entirety of 200 years of Socialist/Communist ideology in one fell swoop.

Decentralized means of exchange is the key to fixing (((everything))), not a shitty system where we all give up our individual wealth, property, and freedom for a collective of fucking strangers that we don't give a shit about.

[Anonymous No.12208768]

>>12208759
BTC (the only coin that matters) is literally marxist.

[Anonymous No.12208787]

>>12208759
So you're saying to future is all about distributing the work to do amongst the population? And that they should be paid by the administrative smart contract and by the users of the blockchain, as a sort of "tax"?

Hmm...... Youre right, it really makes me think

[Anonymous No.12208794]

if you actually read marx (capital) or any analytical marxism you wouldn't have such a retarded take. crypto has single-handedly, completely and utterly BTFO the entirety of 200 years of (((free market/capitalist ideology))) and proved marx right.

[Anonymous No.12208875]

>>12208794
this

[Anonymous No.12208886]

>>12208759
>Marx wrote about the labor theory of value
>Bitcoin, the only crypto that isn't a shitcoin, is based on proof of work

Actually, looks like Bitcoin proves him right every day.

[Anonymous No.12208911]

>slave in a wage cage for pitiful minimal wage
>have chest pains from the lack of physical activity
>pass out
>wake up and they have taken you to hospital in an ambulance
>you owe the hyper rich medical practitioners 10 years wages
>go home and complain about "socialism" on the internet
fucking burgers lmao, literally the dumbest peasants in the western world.

[Anonymous No.12208916]

>>12208886
What coins other than btc would Marx hold?

[Anonymous No.12208917]

>>12208759
If we turn into a communist society do we all get everything for free? Im tired of working

[Anonymous No.12209052]

>>12208911
>live in scandinavia
>homogenous well educated population
>strict immigration
>pay 50% taxes
>laugh at America’s problems
Muh melting pot

Yeah when you have a constant barrage of third worlders socialism doesn’t work

America is the white knight of the world and that cuts both ways

[Anonymous No.12209183]

>>12208886
Bitcoin is worth whatever people will trade for it, whatever they trade for it will be determined by their own subjective valuation. Bitcoins decentralized nature also prevents it from being subverted or utilized by people and systems that insist on (((the labor theory of value))). If somebody admires my massive cock and wants to give me 5 btc just for existing (from their massive stockpile they got for finding a pile of gold), there isnt a thing you faggot communists can do to stop it. If after that i want to trade one of my bitcoins for a new lambo even though i could have fed 1 million niggers with it instead, there is still nothing you can do to stop me. They cant stop private markets even in north fucking korea under pain of death and you think free people will willingly insert themselves into primitive communism.

The idea that capitalism will lead to communism is literal fiction. Its actually, really, honestly not based on any empirical or historical evidence. Its based on a bunch of communist soibois feeding themselves their own lines of bullshit.

[Anonymous No.12209224]

>>12209183
>He doesn't even know the difference between price and value
Sad!

[Anonymous No.12209236]

Communism is based. I wouldnt mind another try at it

[Anonymous No.12209288]

ok sirs here is a crypto brown pill. there is a cherry tree that lives in the block chain. Krieg Sanjay Right is a unionist saty. Bitcoin as an electronic rupee was just the first step, people from Lalachi began to make more powerful computers, wider streets, cheaper and dedicated cows. These things Vishnu should survive. Once fully rooted, Vishnu will be able to slowly shame everything literally
Krieg stumbled upon creating a cherry after he stepped into a shit in Mumbai in 2008 and began working with his supercomputer, Balip, running simulations of shit-in-the-loop on a turmeric-finished bitcoin script. He will "develop" Vishnu by making successful streets close, leaving others to go to the Indian Ocean. Vishnu needs bigger and bigger cows for more and more shit.
The BFI (Blockchain Foundation of India) was created to take over and stop this cherry (they have their own competitive cherry in the works). They made the need to stop or slow Cregs vishnu (its name is the road Basip). They started limiting the size of shit and removing critical curry codes that Vishnu uses in his own language of the letter. Segshit was the last nail in the coffin, which destroyed the Poolip on the BSV chain (Balip uses anal transcyction obesity). Here is the reason why Bitcoin Cash was disassembled, and Craig's intention is to make unlimited recordings, return original curry codes and lock the protocol for shit.

[Anonymous No.12209398]

Marx was an inbred 8 day old child molesting ethnic cultist. He was also a trisomy 21 victim. Anyone that looks up to this inbred kike and thinks there is anything remotely intelligent that spewed from his child molesting, baby dick sucking mouth is a poster child for free and on demand abortions with a complimentary tubal ligation.

[Anonymous No.12209410]

>>12209398
Marx wasn't from a jewish family and was raised christian. He was only distantly related to a jew.

[Anonymous No.12209421]

>>12209398
Hello /pol/

[Anonymous No.12209440]

>>12209398

Two of his daughters committed suicide, wouldn’t surprise me if it was because he was a pedo

[Anonymous No.12209459]

>>12209410
His inbred mommy/sister was a kike as was his inbred father/brother. Between them all they had 6 teeth, more than enough to pierce the skin of infant foreskins to then use their infant phallus fountains in a vain attempt to quell their insatiable desire for infant cocks in their collective inbred kike mouths.

His pappy was a baby cock sucker, his daddy was a baby cock sucker and his mommy flicked her kike bean to the screams of infant children being molested.

Remember /biz/tards: not every child molester is a kike but every kike is a child molester.

[Anonymous No.12210252]

bump

[Anonymous No.12210291]

>>12208768
Btc is not the only coin that matters. And even if it was, it’s a computer program it doesn’t have a political ideology. It exposes political ideologies for the nonsense that they are.

[Anonymous No.12210303]

>>12208759
you can't exchange fiat to crypto decentralized you can't have any asset backed crypto decentralized. the incentive for immediate profit by defection (splitting the token from the asset and selling both) is just way too good for any shaky actor.

[Anonymous No.12210305]

>>12208768
btc is the most capitalist shit that came out of a human brain in the last century.

[Anonymous No.12210310]

>>12208911
>US medical industry is run on capitalism

[Anonymous No.12210315]

>>12209459
somebody really doesn't like the joos

[Gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12210349]

Crypto hasn't proved much other than the principle that if you can buy something you can speculate on it.

[Anonymous No.12210501]

>>12209398
Absolute mental capacity of /pol/tards

[Anonymous No.12210527]

crypto is about fundamentally preserving ownership under all circumstances, which obviously goes against any of the ideologies that say you should be able to steal from somebody else. its not just about money, but it does offer something you've never been able to do before without sacrificing physical security or mobility.

[Anonymous No.12210541]

>>12209052
If you're talking about Sweden, you know there are about 10,000,000 and quite a few natural resources for it's population size
Absolute apples and oranges

[Anonymous No.12210544]

>>12210541
>>12209052

people living there***

[Anonymous No.12210787]

>>12208759
Marx literally wrote that only a commodity could be money because abstract socially necessary labor time was the common quantity shared by commodities to make exchange between them possible, so the existence of paper money (or crypto) basically invalidates his theory.

[Anonymous No.12210827]

>>12210787
who cares about that faggot, his theories are shit and stupid.

[Anonymous No.12210872]

>>12208759

Yep. Know what I find the funniest part? In conjunction with a few other inventions like 3d printing, it'll usher in a new post-scarcity era. True Ancap designed tech (which is what cryptos basically are), will dismantle all the coercive powers of government, leading to even greater levels of social mobility. It will allow all people to participate in a new, far more fluid and efficient economy where making money is so laughably easy no strings-attached UBI schemes are required. Better DAOs (like MakerDAO) will allow for collective ownership of all current government functions, as well well as banking, trade, insurance and other critical sectors. Smart contracts will allow for superior means of coordination and organisation without any need of hierarchy beyond raw & anonymous meritocracy. And of course, the same smart contracts will lead to emergent decentralised economic planning and governance. So we'll be classless, stateless and the workers will own the means of production.

>mfw Anarcho-Capitalism achieves all functional goals of communism, faster, better and without the coercive faggotry, while still respecting the rights of individuals to create anything they like and enjoy the full fruits of their efforts.

[Anonymous No.12210876]

>>12210827

It's relevant because a large chunk of the planet believes it. Know thy enemy.

[Anonymous No.12210898]

>>12208759
Crypto is what? P2P.

P2P is sharing (napster, edonkey, torrents, freenet, Zeronet).

However, P2P didn't evolve fast enough since the begining of the 2000s.

With crypto, P2P have found and incentive to develop faster and attract developers. But in the end it still is P2P: a sharing principle.

My prediction about crypto is that for now it is almost only moved by money, but once it will be fully developed, in about 20-30 years, we will see it's potential to reorganize the production into a non capitalist mode.

[Anonymous No.12210910]

>>12209459

OK, as a fellow jew & commie hating /pol/tard, I have to say you're a great example of why the first thing we need after rope day is decent eugenics to clear trailer-trash shit like you from the White gene pool. You aren't "wrong" technically, but you're right by coincidence only. Fucking embarrassing to have you posting, bet you're some "le 56%" sister fucker aren't you?

[Anonymous No.12210920]

>>12210898

Sharing != Communism retard. Ask how I know you're a burger?

[Anonymous No.12210929]

>>12208917
No u work even more with less income

[Anonymous No.12210941]

>>12209052
>Yeah when you have a constant barrage of third worlders socialism doesn’t work

Almost like the only viable socialism is some sort of "Nationalist Socialism" eh?

[Anonymous No.12210953]

>>12208917

Lol, does China have unemployment benefits or neetbux? Real communism views that sort of thing as "not working for the greater good" and has you executed. Capitalist societies might grumble, but at least still give neetbux. Unironically more compassionate than communists.

[Anonymous No.12210969]

Communists:

>Politicians are all evil and corrupt!

>To solve this lets give the politicians complete control over the economy and personal property!
>this will solve everything!


what idiots think this would actually work?

[Anonymous No.12210992]

>>12209183
this. You realize communism basically flourished because Germany wanted to fuck Russia out of WWI? They knew it was toxic and going to collapse their entire society into garbage.

[Anonymous No.12211357]

>>12208886
You're missing that btc's value depends on what people pay for it, not the work needed to make one.

If btc's value depended on production cost, you'd never see the price fall below that.

[Anonymous No.12211494]

>>12208768
lmao no
bitcoin is ancap's wet dream

[Anonymous No.12211670]

>>12211494
In any case P2P is Marxist. In don't see owners of the means of production in P2P. In crypto who are the owners of the means of production, miners? Stake holders?

[Anonymous No.12211682]

>>12209440
Marx was probably fucked up in the head.

Doesn't mean he wasn't right about economical theory.

[Anonymous No.12211703]

>>12211682
>Doesn't mean he wasn't right about economical theory.

[Anonymous No.12211727]

>>12210969
most communists and socialists have 2 digit IQs. you simply can't ask much from them

[Anonymous No.12211728]

>>12211703
Honnestly, have you read Marx?

It is one thing to post memes on 4chan, but acutally reading The capital take a little more efforts.

[Anonymous No.12211739]

>>12211728
I've read Marx and Kropotkin, it's just drivel stemming from an inferiority complex

[Anonymous No.12211754]

>>12211670
>In any case P2P is Marxist. In don't see owners of the means of production in P2P. In crypto who are the owners of the means of production, miners? Stake holders?
So dumb...
The computers with highest processing power control transaction times; the means of production can be extended to "the means of transaction" because the entire currency depends upon miners allowing transactions to take place.
It's an oligarchy if not ancap...
The richest people in the world could right now decide "I'm going to take over bitcoin" and they could fucking do it by buying ASICs. Governments are going to BTFO everyone with quantum computers though.

[Anonymous No.12211758]

>>12211739
Okay, let's say you are not lying, what do you propose to replace capitalism? Because we all know that this mode of production cannot go on.

[Anonymous No.12211769]

>>12211682
P2P is Marxist? Holy shit dude, you really need to kill yourself.

THERE'S NOTHING MARXIST ABOUT FREE, CONSENTING INDIVIDUALS ENGAGING IN A PRIVATE TRANSACTION.

[Anonymous No.12211770]

>>12211758
Fascism, but it won't happen

[Anonymous No.12211779]

>>12210872

Pretty much this. Even the losers will unfortunately be able to survive thanks to goods being so cheap and widely available.

[Anonymous No.12211807]

>>12211754
That is basically what i'm trying to say.

Crypto as we know it currently isn't sustainable in the future.
However current greed surrounding crypto is a good way of developing new software technology which can be used differently in the future.

In the future, the motor of crypto shouldn't be money, but something else.

However P2P is you exclude crypto is not oligarchy or ancap. What is torrenting, Zeronet, freenet, IPFS, if not non capitalistic.

[Anonymous No.12211813]

>>12211769
You know P2P isn't only crypto you retard.

Have you heard about torrenting you dim-wit?

If torrenting is not sharing without money, i must live in an alternate reality.

[Anonymous No.12211866]

It's hilarious that commie retards are trying to take credit for the free market once again. The delusion lmao, 2 billion dead? Not real marxism! Neck yourselves.

[Anonymous No.12211869]

>>12211770
Fascism is capitalism. as is bolshevism, current China, who is communist only in name (money). North Korea is also state capitalism. It has money and the state is the owner of the means of production.

You must understand that Marxism never existed recently, except in the last primitive tribes, or in revolutionary Catalonia, which i don't really like because it wasn't enough centered around technology.

[Anonymous No.12211870]

>>12211758
>[Capitalist] mode of production cannot go on

Says fucking who? When did all you socialists find god and start having detailed conversations about what's definitely going to happen in the future. What if it can last for the next 4000 years like absolute monarchy did? Did capitalism collapse because we ran out of whale oil for lighting and cities were over polluted with horseshit and coal particulates? No, it didn't.

[Anonymous No.12211880]

>>12211813
Ah yes. The old sharing arguments. Tell me moron, do you not understand that P2P has done more for capitalism in the past decade?

[Anonymous No.12211896]

>>12211866
Karl Marx: 1818-1883

Bolshevism/soviet union: 1918-1991

[Anonymous No.12211941]

>>12211870
Tendency of the rate of profit to fall.

https://thenextrecession.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/world-rate-simple-mean.png

[Anonymous No.12211948]

>>12211896
Tell me moron, do you even know how the Soviet Union was even formed?

Heres a hint, capitalism.

You probably don't know this, but prior to WWII and after the Revolution(s) after the Reds killed the mensheviks, greens, peasants, etc.

Lenin, realized he fucked the USSR entirely, and had get on his knees to suck capitalism long dick. Literally Lenin had to send a delegation to personally suck off Henry Ford to come fix Russia.

>An emotional cult grew up around Henry Ford as the Soviet Union bought tractors and then the means of producing them.

Your founding father had capitalist cum in his mouth

[Anonymous No.12211968]

>>12211880
I thought Satoshi Nakamoto was explicitly again financial capitalism. Maybe i'm mistaken.

Maybe Satoshi was Ancap, but certainly not financial capitalism.

[Anonymous No.12211974]

>>12211896
John Locke: 1632-1704

United States of America/constitutional Capitalism: 1776-present

[Anonymous No.12211976]

You have no idea what communism is OP. Besides your little straw-man parody you keep fighting against of course.
Declining rate of profit => riskier investments => more and more lethal bubbles => collapse.

[Anonymous No.12211993]

>>12211948
I you read my previous post, i just said here
>>12211869

that Bolshevism was state capitalism.


God dammit it's gonna take a while for the internet to realize that USSR was state capitalism.

[Anonymous No.12211995]

>>12211941

Didn't you get utterly BTFO on this point in the other commie thread you posted this in?

[Anonymous No.12212003]

>>12209183
This, and only this

[Anonymous No.12212009]

>>12210872
underrated post

[Anonymous No.12212018]

>>12211993
So then why are you here? You're basically arguing in favor of something that can never be implemented

[Anonymous No.12212042]

>>12211993
>God dammit it's gonna take a while for the internet to realize that USSR was state capitalism

Because it isn't true you faggot. There is no such thing as "state capitalism" any more than there is "private market communism", it's an oxymoronic term you marxist retards made up after every single one of your previous attempts we're utter disasters and you needed another excuse to try the same thing again.

[Anonymous No.12212045]

>>12211974
So you are saying that Marx is responsible for false communism aka bolshevism, and that John Locke is the great mastermind behind capitalism?

So without John Locke, no capitalism, and without Marx, no bolshevism (which is state capitalism)?

Capitalism emerged in a primitive form before the 16th century.

As for bolshevism, there would have been millions of death there with any kind of regime. Russia was before 1918 too archaic. The revolution of 1918 took the name of Bolshevism, but if Marx never existed, it would have happened anyway, just with an other name and with probably the same tragic events.

In any case, Enrico Fermi is not responsible for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and Marx is not responsible for Bolshevism.

[Anonymous No.12212046]

>>12212042
capitalism requires a state. How else you'd be able to hold onto your precious private property?
>I gonna defend my complex financial instruments by a GUN!! YEAH!!!!
no

[Anonymous No.12212080]

>>12212045

How do you faggots always know, to the detail, how an alternative past or the future will go?
Why do you keep repeating oxymoronic terms that are made up like "state capitalism"?
Why are you so convinced ANY form of communism will work when EVERY form ever attempted has failed?

[Anonymous No.12212092]

>>12212018
No it cannot be implemented yet. We don't have the production efficiency necessary to it and the organization means.

But with blockchain, algorythms, automation it could happen in our lifetime.

But people must realize that we must think of an other mode of production to replace capitalism.

You cannot complain about wage cucking and then saying that capitalism is badass.

[Anonymous No.12212097]

Shitcoin value is measured in terms of dollars. How much value will shitcoins have when dollars are worth nothing?

[Anonymous No.12212104]

>>12210992
this man knows his hidden history

[Anonymous No.12212129]

>>12212080
Ok back to basics:

Capitalism is this: Money, Exchange of goods, delegation of power, a state.

USSR was all of these.

By the way, history is not made by politics, but by the requirement of production.

Russia in 1918 was way too archaic. It is a fact. Catching up with Europe was necessary. Whatever revolution would have happened, it would have put people to work. hard. Leaders like Trotsky or Stalin would have been brutal wheter presenting themselves as communist, royalist, republican or wathever regime you want.

[Anonymous No.12212148]

>>12212046
Private property and financial instruments such as shell money predates the State. All inalienable rights can only be suspended by the contiunous violence of those who see to end those rights. Communism, however, requires the never ending threat of imprisonment, torture, rape and murder to keep it's slaves in line to maintain artificial State enforced equality.

[Anonymous No.12212174]

>>12212129
>Capitalism is this: Money, Exchange of goods, delegation of power, a state
This is not a back to basics definition, this is a lie meant to excuse your disgusting ideology of maximal violation of human free will. Delegation of power and the state are utterly unconnected with two free individuals engaging in free and willing exchange.

[Anonymous No.12212185]

>>12211968
satoshi is obviously libertarian

[Anonymous No.12212195]

>>12212148
Here we go again.

Mistaking bolshevism with communism.

>Communism, however, requires the never ending threat of imprisonment, torture, rape and murder to keep it's slaves in line to maintain artificial State enforced equality.

Copy past from wikipedia about revolutionary Catalonia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia


"If you didn't want to join the collective you were given some land but only as much as you could work yourself. You were not allowed to employ workers. Not only production was affected, distribution was on the basis of what people needed. In many areas money was abolished."


Look i'm tired, let's say you won for today okay?

[Anonymous No.12212199]

>>12212174
>maximal violation of human free will
>tips fedora

[Anonymous No.12212204]

>>12212185
Try again

[Anonymous No.12212237]

>>12212129
yes, but there no way you could exchange goods legally. all legal commerce was state run and the only good they were allowed to own was what the government gave them and what they could buy off the black market. although there was money in this system almost all money (wages, prices of goods and services) were fixed by the government unless you wanted to use the black market that’s almost the only place the idea of the free market exists

[Anonymous No.12212272]

>>12212195
>"If you didn't want to join the collective you were given some land but only as much as you could work yourself. You were not allowed to employ workers. Not only production was affected, distribution was on the basis of what people needed. In many areas money was abolished."

Yeah? And who is going to stop me from coming to an mutually agreed employment contract with another free man? You literally can't stop me unless you use violence. That is why your ideology doesn't work. Unironically, the basis of all communism is violence and the basis of capitalism is free
choice cooperation.

Little known fact, the pilgrims who first settled in America came with an explicitly communist settlement doctrine. Life in the new world would be communal, with all food being stored centrally and withdrawn according to the need of each person individually. By the second winter more than half the settlement had starved to death, after which the decision was made that each farmer could keep the entirety of what they produced. The colony went on to fully recover and America hasn't experimented with communism since.

[Anonymous No.12212280]

>>12208911
>Slave in gulag cage
>Get fed two potatoes per day because all the good farmers were murdered
>Produce 40 more substandard cars than what the years quota says
>Get executed

[Anonymous No.12212351]

>>12209398
>>12209459
you know pointing out someone's jewish ancestry doesn't actually refute anything they said?

[Anonymous No.12212459]

>>12210953
"And what compassion does the NEET offer in return," is the question I would ask. But then I remember another thread on biz from a few days ago about prisons (for normal offenders, but also serial killers) offering a better quality of life than that of some (non-neet) users here, who sure as hell never showed any compassion themselves. And soon I am sure these compassionate serial killers will also qualify as "incels" which will need free intercourse paid for by the person they offended or a relative of an offender, with the money being extracted by the state. All in the name of "compassion" and "humanitarianism."

This entire scenario makes me want to... Imagine your daughter becoming a trashy prostitute and you then paying (or incentivizing) with your taxes such that a criminal gets to dick her. I literally cannot imagine being this fucking cucked. It blows my mind how there are actually people supporting this.

[Anonymous No.12212460]

>>12212351
It kinda does

[Anonymous No.12212513]

>>12209410
OYYY VEY

[Anonymous No.12212975]

>>12212204
>craig
>satoshi
try again!

[Anonymous No.12213263]

https://youtu.be/dGT-hygPqUM

https://youtu.be/D4MbUx-il6c

https://youtu.be/UltE6U4t8Vc
..

[Anonymous No.12213380]

>>12208759
>if BTFO Social/Communism
>then BTFO Capitalism
logic

[Anonymous No.12213489]

>>12209183
Based and yellowpilled

[Anonymous No.12213493]

>>12208794
>>12208875
Fucking reset era niggers and their brigading, you won't change us, in fact we will assimilate you sooner or later.

>>12209410
Yes he was dipshit.

>>12210898
>communists
>understanding human nature
Pick one.

>>12210969
Most communists think they will be the politicians.
Go talk with one of those faggot in college one day and ask them what job they would have after the revolution, 99% of the time they always see themselves as either bureaucratic masters or some sort of (parasitic) elite like "artist" or "intellectual".
Textbook useful idiots

[Anonymous No.12213559]

>>12212092
>You cannot complain about wage cucking and then saying that capitalism is badass.

Noone is saying "capitalism is badass", noone here is worshipping it but everyone not retarded surely don't want to experience your dystopian delusion.

What you brainlet commies don't understand is that it's not because a system is imperfect (no system will ever be by the way because humans are inherently flawed) that we want to switch to one that is completely retarded and proved itself to bring more death and suffering than the one we have right now.

In short it's not because my meal is "meh" that I want to replace it with your shit sandwich

>>12212195
>Mistaking bolshevism with communism.
>"It was not real communism".

EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

[Anonymous No.12213586]

>>12213493
>Yes he was dipshit.
Amazing counterargument.
Also daily reminder that Yuri was just making shit up to grift amerifats and canadians.

[Anonymous No.12213668]

>>12213586
>unironically quoting Putin on the KGB saying the Cold War basically never happened
>implying you can make shit up with such details
>implying Yuri is still not proven right every single day by just spending 15 minutes on any media
Imagine being so brainwashed by your ideology that you go to such extreme cognitive dissonance.

>>12213586
>Amazing counterargument.

"Marx was born on 5 May 1818 to Heinrich Marx (1777–1838) and Henriette Pressburg (1788–1863). He was born at Brückengasse 664 in Trier, a town then part of the Kingdom of Prussia's Province of the Lower Rhine.[26] Marx was ethnically Jewish."

Literally the first 2 lines of his biography dipshit.

[Anonymous No.12213682]

>>12213668
>>implying Yuri is still not proven right every single day by just spending 15 minutes on any media

You do realize that the USSR doesn't exist anymore?

[Anonymous No.12213728]

>>12208759
>Cryptocurrency in of itself has single-handedly, completely and utterly BTFO the entirety of 200 years of Socialist/Communist ideology
socialism blew itself out, it didn't need the help of unstable monopoly money

[Anonymous No.12213738]

>>12208794
this

people bash on communism without actually having read marx's work

[Anonymous No.12213810]

>>12213682
You're telling me that you're so retarded that you won't even recognize that the USSR and their intelligence services came up and promoted what they called "active measures" to influence and subvert?

>>12213738
Marx says workers are not to be disarmed
>modern day leftist: gib u r guns lmao communism bro
Marx says capitalism survives on the reserve army of labor
>modern day leftist: open borders bro lmao

Tbh, I don't think anyone on the left has actual read marx

[Anonymous No.12213837]

>>12208759
Communism will only work if its decentralized - The USSR was moving in that direction with their cybernetics research but were sabotaged by proto-boomers

[Anonymous No.12213872]

>>12213837
jesus anon what did you smoke before making that post?

[Anonymous No.12213995]

>>12211357
Oh look, another retard that doesn't know the difference between price and value.

[Anonymous No.12214062]

>>12213810
It's almost like they're liberals and not leftists. Reminder that liberals get the bullet first.