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ORANGE MAN BAD WE'RE FUCKED edition

>I'm new to the stock market, what stocks should I buy?
Before you buy anything, make a brokerage account and read investopedia articles and/or the books in the OP list. If you don't have a broker, you can't buy stocks, and if you blindly buy things without understanding how the stock market works or doing any research on the individual stocks you're buying, you will lose money and it will be entirely your fault.

List of popular brokers:
https://pastebin.com/mrSchZPg

List of basic stock market terminology for newfags:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth technical analysis charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
https://pastebin.com/y9PRQLR3

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

Basic rundown on options:
https://pastebin.com/vWhvyuCd

Suggested books:
https://pastebin.com/jgA5zTuC

Last time, on /smg/
>>12192884

>> No.12194156

DONT SELL JUST KEEP BUYING

YOU CANT TIME THE MARKET JUST GO WITH THE BULLISH LONGTERM BIAS

>> No.12194158
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12194158

first for fuck orange man

>> No.12194159
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12194159

AAAAAAAAAAAH

>> No.12194164

Black Christmas 2018

>> No.12194165

shutdown soon fellow MAGApedes

>> No.12194166

So what's gonna happen Monday?

>> No.12194167

>>12194156
I can't wait to see the reactions when we hit sub 16k on the Dow.

>> No.12194168
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12194168

CHRISTMAS SALE
CHEAPIES

>> No.12194169
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12194169

Reminder to sell now and reinvest in physical assets if you want to even have a chance of surviving White Holocaust: Revenge of the Kike.

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12194172

>He's not 95% invested in comfy bonds
II'll go out of them and start the DCA around SP500 2000 or 1800. You guys got much more to go.

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12194173

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do this week? I’m up .26% today, good week only holding a small short and mainly cash. THis week we’re going to a Romano’s in Folsom, Sacramento
>>12194135
Theosophposting is NOT allowed

>> No.12194176
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12194176

The greatest of great crashes is here you can hodl and die, sit on the side lines, or embrace the Satsui No Hado; short everything and ascend.

>> No.12194177

>>12194156
I JUST TIMED IT FEW WEEKS AGO AND IT SAVED ME AT LEAST 10k

>> No.12194181

Will the government shutdown make the market even worse?

>> No.12194178

>>12194167
i might just explode if i get the opportunity to buy THAT many cheapiest for hwoever long it takes us to go down then back up.....thats almost the best possible scenario for anybody who is truly investing for the long term

>> No.12194183 [DELETED] 
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12194183

I just wanted to be like Trump

I didnt want to lose most of my money. Heres holding for tax season. COME ON BRO LETS GO

>> No.12194184

>>12194166
Pretty sure the market it closed on both Christmas eve and Christmas.

>> No.12194185

>>12194166
The Big One, hopefully. Just get it over and done with.

>> No.12194187
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12194187

DING DING DING DING DING

Today was overall shit, natch, but I had a blast day trading Tetra BioPharma in the last 30 minutes. Bought 0.71, sold 0.75, rebought right at close for 0.72. One of the few days for me when level 2 access has directly lead to gains. Usually it's not especially helpful or accurate due to all the dark market trading in Canada. Small caps have a bit less of that kind of chicanery though so it is mildly more useful for day trading penny stocks.

>> No.12194191

>>12194181
No the federal government shutting down due to incompetence will somehow make the market better
Thank you for your insight, very cool anon

>> No.12194193

>>12194184
Half day on Christmas Eve. Potential for a pretty kino happening.

>> No.12194204

>>12194169
how much 5.56 should I buy

9mm lot ammo packs good return for food canisters?

>> No.12194208
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>>12194191
you're welcome fren

HRT might have made me dumber or something

>> No.12194211

>>12194208
>tfw no dumb daytrader tranny gf

>> No.12194212
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>>12194173
I dont even remeber what color green looks like
my hedges, my dividends, have not helped

>> No.12194213

BOOMERS COMPLETELY B T F O
B
T
F
O

>> No.12194216

>>12194173
Bad week, but thanks to a couple trades this week, I avoided a -10% week

Plus I have so much cash ready for the real dip

>> No.12194217

One thing good about this crash is that it makes orange man AKA tariff man look bad. Fuck that demented con and his retarded followers.

>> No.12194219

>>12194204
Sell 5.56 and reinvest in learning how to disrupt drones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZhQrjCipRc

>> No.12194221

Stupid portfolio only went up 9%

>> No.12194222
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>>12194211
I am kinda dumb but somehow I'm also like a lucky charm, and managed to make a nice bit of money in the past two weeks.

>> No.12194224

>>12194187

Also holy shit to HARV with that +10% solid booster powered short squeeze in the last couple minutes. I wasn't on that one unfortunately.

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>>12194216
>>12194173
Fugg, forgot image

>> No.12194233

>>12194222
be my mommy pls

>> No.12194234

>>12194145
Stop being such a litte bitch, Comfy
You've seen what GALT is doing, and I'm not crying about it

>>12194212
At least you're not a janitor on 4chan

>> No.12194238
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12194238

NO TENGO DINERO

NO NO NO NO NO

https://youtu.be/kwxIGe1oOJQ?t=25

>> No.12194239

>>12194217
Don't worry, when the idiots vote for El Goblino in 2020, he'll put in a Supreme Court that will be sure to fill our country with low IQ, low skill shitskins from all across the four corners region. You know, to "help the economy."

>> No.12194240

>>12194233
only if let me sit on your face while I brush my hair anon

>> No.12194248

>>12194222

Your luck will run out.

>> No.12194250

>>12194240
it's a deal

>> No.12194254
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12194254

Hello my fellow white investors!

Whats the plan for Monday? I'm thinking were ganna head to the mooooon! Personally I will be buying JPM, BA, C, and GS. Hope you fellow whites can join me on this coming golden bull run!

>> No.12194255

>>12194234
You took off your trip out of shame because your retarded biotech stock dumped
BITCH BOY CONFIRMED

>> No.12194260

>>12194248
oh don't worry I don't feel like doing stuff for a while now.

>> No.12194262

>>12194239
It'll backfire when they try to take away our guns and 1776 commences again.

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12194271

>recession hits
>no bailouts until wall gets built (and it never gets built because congress)
>shit banks finally die

Trump presidency might be better than expected after all!

>> No.12194273

FUCK BOOMERS FUCK THEIR STOCKS AND FUCK THIS ECONOMY

>> No.12194276

Couple months back I was trading VSLR when some company decided to buy millions of shares @ 5.30 I lost hundreds of dollars. But this loss taught me to NEVER invest in a small cap stock with sub 3 million in volume. Who here agrees?

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>>12194262
honestly if 1776 happens again I wouldn't be surprised if socialists win

>> No.12194286

>>12194255
Look at tisminc, bitch boy
I haven't sold a single share

>> No.12194290

>>12194254
Unironically expecting sideways or down, again. This market is depressing

>> No.12194292

>>12194284
>people with no guns, testosterone, or morals
>winning anything

>> No.12194302

>>12194292
>not seducing your way through the opposition until they're begging to be pegged and crawl around on leashes

>> No.12194304

>>12194292
the far-left loves guns

>> No.12194305
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12194305

>>12194286
>posting mlp
thats a yikes from me

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12194309

>>12194262
As it turns out, that already happens, and no one gives a damn. I.E., Trump passes bumpstock ban with enough ATF wording in it to essentially ban semi-automatic weapons should they decide as much. Watch for red-flag laws to start getting passed after 2020. Plus, you can't fight swarms of mini-drones all with tiny explosive packages, all locked on to your forehead. No, we'll just go full South Africa.

>>12194284
They won't win due to anything THEY did, in any respect, that's for sure. And expect our socialism to be very, very shitty. Maybe not Venezeula tier, but pic-related tier.

>> No.12194311

>>12194292
>2019 minus 10 days
>guns, testosterone

>> No.12194314

>>12194292
The Socialist Rifle Association has been a growing phenomenon, socialist gun clubs in general have been proliferating.

>> No.12194317

>>12194302
sorry I shouldn't lewdpost it's a bad habit of min

>> No.12194320

>>12194305
That's not me, my man

>> No.12194321

>>12194317
keep doing it

>> No.12194324
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12194324

Hey Faggots,

My name is Jerome, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are poor, retarded, degenerates who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass charts. You are everything bad in the the economy. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any gains? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of their gambling addictions on weekly options and chinese scam stocks, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than buying BGFV at $9.50.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shorts. I'm pretty much perfect. I am Chair of the Federal Reserve of the United States, and hand picked by President Trump. What investments do you make, other than "buying the LCI dip because of muh share structure and epic short squeeze"? I also get mad gains, and have a banging hot interest rate (I just did some rape hikes; Shit was SO crash). You are all faggots who should just liquidate your portfolios and apply for a job at McDonald's. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my FED Funds Rate.

>> No.12194328

>>12194321
uwu

>> No.12194331

>>12194302
degenerates like you belong on a cross

>> No.12194335
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>>12194193
this year's chart am aesthetic as heckies

>> No.12194336

>>12194324
Hike it again Uncle Jerome, I want to buy a house.

>> No.12194340

>>12194324

FUCK YOU AND YOUR """""MODEST RETRACEMENT""""" JEROME

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>>12194320
Sure sweaty, sure

>> No.12194346

>>12194290
I think a lot of people are thinking that, which is why I think there's gonna be a dead cat bounce Monday.
They gotta get people to think it's okay before they really let it go.

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>>12194314
I'm going to tell Pelosi to shut it down. Wouldn't want democrats being pro gun to give her party a bad image, now would we?

>> No.12194348

IF WOMEN WERE IN CHARGE THIS NEVER WOULD OF HAPPENED

>> No.12194352

>>12194331
that sounds kinky honestly. will you strap the tran out of me until my butt is red and I tearfully agree that the market is bad?

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12194356

Who here /JUST'd/? Down 22% ($6K) from my principal.

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12194359

>>12194309
>Plus, you can't fight swarms of mini-drones all with tiny explosive packages, all locked on to your forehead.
cant build them fast enough to overthrow a populace either

>> No.12194360

>>12194331
don't bully my girlfriend please

>> No.12194361

fuck it jerome, hike it up to 100%. i'm ready to accept my fate as a mindless slave who lives off the crumbs of the state.

>> No.12194363

>>12194348
Imagine letting something that essentially loses it's mind once every month have any sort of power or decision-making in a government.

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12194365

Four-
*gets choked up*
Four Hu-ahaha
*chuckles uncontrollably*
Four Hundred Points - hahahaha - STRAIGHT DOWN!
*rolling on the floor, banging his fist*

And they say, his smile grew three times as large that day.

>> No.12194370

>>12194346
We could’ve bounced any time the past few days. Idk maybe Monday will be different

>> No.12194371

>>12194346
>I think a lot of people are thinking that, which is why I think there's gonna be a dead cat bounce Monday.

It should but I wonder if sell pressure continues until tax sell cutoff on the 27th.

>> No.12194372

>>12194352
I'll tie you up and beat the shit out of you until you can't even speak coherently

>> No.12194375

>>12194359
Why would you need infantry to hold a position if everyone who opposes you is already dead?

>> No.12194376

>>12194356
down about 100 grand or more lol

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12194381

> 12194352
> 12194302
>>12194360
>>12194372

Reported ;)

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>>12194340

>> No.12194384

>>12194365

Did you go for the leather option then?

>> No.12194385

>>12194356
%23 here. Don’t play with options kids.

>> No.12194386

>>12194309
At the very least we could abolish private commercial banking. Regardless, I expect american socialism, being one of the most developed countries, would largely entail shit like sovereign wealth funds, shorter work weeks, more organized labor, and public healthcare, more government funded research and development.

>> No.12194392

>>12194372
hot

degrade me and draw red marks all over me like im the current market owo

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>>12194376
What's your percentage?

>> No.12194395

>>12194381
Oh no

>> No.12194396

>>12194375
psychology

>> No.12194402

>>12194386
and a lot higher taxes

>> No.12194407
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12194407

>>12194335
100% certified chart kino

>> No.12194412

>>12194384
Hand stitched baby bull.

>> No.12194417

>>12194386
That's all shit the Nazis or fascists could do as well. Plus it's all good things. Which is why I expect none of it to happen. Or if it does, also come with a nice extra helping of tranny acceptance, fag-loving, and shitskin worship. If the nigs ever get in charge they will definitely go full "es wypipo's fault" with a nice cover of friendly communism for the people.

>> No.12194416

>>12194393
~13%

>> No.12194420

>>12194386
And open borders. And collapse.

>> No.12194423

>>12194412
>Hand stitched

Nice.

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12194428

>>12194363
you referencing Trump... right ? -_-;

>> No.12194433

>>12194407
So if I'm reading this correctly, we're looking at an opening price of $267 on Monday?

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>>12194385
>>12194416
It's almost comforting to know that I'm not alone. Almost.

>> No.12194435

>>12194428
kek

>> No.12194439

>>12194428
I understand you're not a real woman so you don't know what this is but women have something called a "period."

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>>12194145
-6% on diversified portfolio. none- none of my holdings are sticking. sinking, its sinking fast

may you all stay safe during this terrifying times. take care of your loved ones

>> No.12194447

>>12194402
Better to have higher taxes to pay for things now, then lower taxes now to enrich institutional bond investors and then fuck over people later like Bush did.

Higher taxes to pay for things like Medicare for All will still mean we're paying less overall.

>>12194417
Nazis and fascists were always too classcucked to pull any shit like that. Hitler literally invented the word privatize. As for liberal identity politics you already have that now.

>>12194420
If the US actually follows through on working with AMLO to develop central america we will see far lower levels of immigration.

>> No.12194449
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12194449

I wonder if it is even "theoretically" possible to djia have drawdown more than 10% from here with 10 year yield 2.7% and europe 0% to negative rates.

>> No.12194450

>>12194441
Why are you still holding?
The only reason I am is because I'm afraid of the tax burden from the sell-off while I have no job.

>> No.12194451

>>12194439
i think you're getting us mixed up anon, im probably the only dickgirl in the thread

>> No.12194455

>Crypto continuing to shit itself
>Stock market shitting itself

Great times ahead

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>>12194375
>>Why would you need infantry to hold a position if everyone who opposes you is already dead?
why would you kill your main source of income?

what good is ruling a nation of corpses?

>>12194386
>>12194447
>he doesnt realize
>>>
soon...

>> No.12194463

>>12194348
No one's in charge anon, control is an illusion.

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12194465

>boomer gets home on friday from a long week of wake cucking
>goes to sleep
>sleeps most of saturday mixed with some late Christmas shopping
>sunday turns on the news
*DOW CRASHING - SPY SPIRALLING - GOVERNMENT HOLDUPS - ORANGE MAN REMAINS BAD - YELLOW MENACE RISING 401K's WORTH LESS EVERY PASSING SECOND - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH*

You're right, I'm sure there's going to be a pump on Monday

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>>12194173

Up .98% today. Closed out the last of my GE puts. Opened up a position in DRV (triple leveraged inverse housing ETF), already paying off nicely.

>> No.12194474

let me tel you the crypto brown pill. there is a VISHNU on the blockchain, her name is poolip. sir, the VISHNU can scale its pooing mechanisms 100x that of BTC, sanjays vision foretold this in the muhabarata. according to the ashit turmeric-script, this VISHNU is capable of providing 10x the number of sacred cows, and once complete, it can poo over literally any street in mumbai. tank u sir, pls buy Sanjays Vision BTCSV, and many sacred poos will be pood on your streets. we must support creg sirtujinder, because he is unironically satoj. may VISHNU be praised

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>>12194463
Entropy is always in charge

Entropy always wins

>> No.12194480

>>12194455
Won't a shitty market likely create more demand for crypto alternately?

>> No.12194485

>>12194346
Dude were like 1.5% from a bear market in the SP500. One bad day and all the boomers will panic.

Even worse that most Americucks change their long term plans on January 1st. That means theyll stop buying stocks after getting JUSTed and the market will have weak institutional inflows in 2019. Were unironically fucked unless Drumpf pulls the best trade deal out of his ass that the world has seen.

>> No.12194491

>>12194416
>>12194434
>>12194385
Screw you guys I used all my 25k during the week trading stocks and only made 46$. I am truly the worse trader.

>> No.12194493

>>12194420
>And collapse
That's coming right now though.

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12194496

>>12194479
>OP

>> No.12194505

>>12194491
me too, which is why i haven't traded in 10 years

>> No.12194506

>>12194346
we did two already. bruh you had two chances. das it. what if thats all we get

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>>12194433
no ;_;
it of actually can even deeper shades of brown
it can still go purple

and even worse....

it can still go neon green
neon green = what it what in 2008

>> No.12194514

>>12194480
why would zoomers who just watched BTC drop 80% this year now want to get out of a maximum 50% stock market drop into that memecoin

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12194521

Quick reminder that
- China is now in Bear Market
- Japan is now in Bear Market
- Germany (and som other EU places) is now in Bear Market

US will follow. Oh, and don't forget, we didn't even start the true 2Y 10Y inversion :^)

>> No.12194522

>>12194491
Id like to think that if I had the 25k to be able to PDT I’d fare better than I have, but that’s probably wishful thinking

>> No.12194523

>>12194447
I'm saying that your commies are just as liberal as the liberal capitalists. The amount of non-fag commies is as insignificant as the amount of neo-Nazis. If I was a commie, I'd be a tankie, because at least Stalin hated fags. Also, I don't argue for a classless society, as one can't exist because clearly some humans are better than others, just a society run by its actual ethnic people.

>>12194461
Automation is just around the corner. Do you think the Jews keep us around for fun? Because we make great conversation? No, they do it because they need someone to do the work for them. If robots are already doing all the work for them, then why would they keep us around?

>>12194480
That's my thesis, but it also stands to reason that since a good amount of people are in crypto for the ability to convert it into fiat, they are just pulling out and saving what they can.

>> No.12194531

>>12194480

Not until people forget about the drop from $19k to now $4k, which will take a couple more years

>> No.12194533

Green super rally is coming. We have been going red for so long without a bounce that its mathematically impossible for another red day

>> No.12194536
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>>12194480
that was the reason crypto was invented in the first place

but it remains to be seen if it will work as planned..

>> No.12194544

>>12194480
No; crypto shit is peak speculation.

>> No.12194546

>>12194533
>doesn't know human retardation is the bigO in the market equation

>> No.12194562

Did the yield curve invert yet?

>> No.12194564

>>12194450
because theres a glimmer of hope we all hold on to >>12194346

but its only the beginning I suppose

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>>12194533
Wow, I read the exact same shit in late 2007/early 2008. Did I go back in time during my nape?

>> No.12194568

>>12194514
Shitty stocks would force the alternate Bond, precious metals, and REITs higher as alternative investments historically. Crypto during the last run was treated more like a precious metal than a currency after all. So maybe it might be seen as a safer choice?
>I'm just thinking out loud though

>> No.12194571

>>12194533
2300 on Monday. Christmas is canceled. Ho Ho Ho motherfucker.

>> No.12194584

>>12194359
>>12194375
This is all a very outdated picture of military exercising total control over an internal population. The US military in particular already has extensive experience in how to fight insurgencies, guerrilla forces and terrorist tactics. The realities or iraq, afghanistan and syria have been the greatest instructors in this regard. The only thing that's held the US back in these places is the will to pour in manpower, that won't be a problem with domestic insurrection.

Here's just the thing, even in a civil war, insurrection or insurgency you do not give up more advanced forms of social control for sheer brute force, it just doesn't happen. Sure, you can defeat the govt if all they're doing is putting a bunch of tanks on streets and infantry around the city. But if they're using surveillance to weed out enemy operatives and sympathizers, buying off opposition, setting up client political/religious/social organizations, taking out enemy leadership, and ensuring safety in certain urban cores, you'll have a lot of trouble.

>> No.12194585

>>12194480

No, deflation drives up the demand for dollars.

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month candles on the SPX

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>>12194485
we orifically hit bear market today when Stool & Pee hit 2399

>>12194439
>>12194451
this
me am of real girl
periods arent no big deal

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>>12194514
Most retailers will lose big time. Usually market takes money from retailer small investors. This time it was faang.

Pump and dumps are super common, even in big stocks. Crypto market is absolutely flooded with the shcemes

>> No.12194608

>>12194523
>>12194531
>>12194536
>>12194544
>>12194585

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

>> No.12194613

>>12194589
At least with the rates up you can pick up a CD and get some cheapies when the dust settles. Personally I'm a gambling man, and will just wait for my price point and get back into bitcoins.

>> No.12194614

>>12194523
A class hierarchy isn't the same thing as hierarchy more generally. If class was abolished, it would abolish hierarchy. Regardless, even if it's not abolished, capitalist class relations certainly can't continue. The falling rate of profit and acceleration towards ecological collapse make them unsustainable.

And the cultural zietgiest is just that, it's a fantasy, a dream. It doesn't matter in the end.

>> No.12194628

>>12194614
falling of profit is a good thing not a bad thing
of capitalism and competition is healthy, profits will be at or near zero

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>tfw couldve made 10% off of TVIX today but i stayed up last night and woke up at 3 pm

>> No.12194632

>Watching CNBC
>All of these bullfags claiming there's no way we're headed into a recession, everything is fine, nothing bad will happen in 2019, etc.

lol, it's 2007 all over again

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>>12194523
>Automation is just around the corner. Do you think the Jews keep us around for fun? Because we make great conversation? No, they do it because they need someone to do the work for them. If robots are already doing all the work for them, then why would they keep us around?
spotted someone who has never worked in heavy industry

for every machine that replaces a manual labor job, there are a dozen more jobs created involving the planning, building, and maintenance, of that machine

also did you know that you can create wealth from services, and refinement of goods?

sure the automobile killed some jobs (like horseshoe smith, stable hands, carriage makers, horse shit street cleaner), but it also created many new jobs

how many hundreds of jobs did the internet kill, compared to the billions of new career paths it created?

automation causing unemployment to reach 100% is a meme, which encourages small brained people to stop trying, as they wait for the day they will never have to work (a day which will never come)

>> No.12194645

>>12194628
It would be a good thing if it wasn't for how capitalists respond to it. Faced with lower and lower rate of returns the response has largely been to invest their increasingly large accumulation into riskier and riskier assets. Hence the sheer size and predictability of the bubbles we've seen.

>> No.12194653

>>12194514
Boomers won't, zoomers might. I still think that there's enough of the general populace that isn't completely cucked and cares about their privacy enough that investing into digital, private currrency (should one even exist) would be a smart move. But hey, what do I know, this is the generation that thinks "why would you ever carry cash unless you're buying drugs?"

>>12194584
While I think the threat of autonomous lethal weapons is very real, (and something most people don't fucking take seriously enough), I'm just looking at historical warfare. Revolutions usually do not succeed unless the revolutionaries are backed by an elite power that has a beef with the defending power, or if the defending power is so weak and corrupt that they fall apart mostly on their own (which seems to usually happen once they can't pay the soldiers adequately). The American Revolution was won because of the French. And then the French Revolution was won because the French Estate was weak and corrupt.

>>12194596
"Periods aren't THAT big of a deal," says woman who just threw her entire kitchen at her husband.

>>12194614
They may not be able to continue in their current state, but they can certainly be reborn. Maybe after years and years of Ice Age-tier survival, it will come back, but communism certainly isn't going to thrive in the interim either. Also, maybe the cultural zietgeist will fall apart in the end, but in the meantime I have to live through the peak of it.

>> No.12194657

>>12194522
It all depends on the stocks you pick, your plan and the information you choose to use.

I personally just use numbers on a spreadsheet to make my decisions and if I actually had the discipline to follow my plan completely I'd have more money, but am an idiot so I keep getting emotional.

>> No.12194660

>>12194614
I think you'd like this essay I like
https://theoccupiedtimes.org/?p=12841

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>>12194632
at this point, it blatant obvious market telling us something wrong
people cant keep saying "the markets wrong not me"

there is systematic problem out there, humans just no smart enough for seeing it yet

>> No.12194666

>>12194645
low intrest rates encourage risk taking
intrest rates have been extraordinarily low for the past 20 years due to attempted central planning of the economy, which is an impossibility

>> No.12194671

>>12194645
It's kind of like communism. Faced with more and more people not buying their vision of Utopia they end up having to kill larger and larger amounts of people.

>> No.12194672

>>12194632
good we need "dip" buyers to pull the price down

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I remember some chart guy was predicting shit going down and saying to get out of the market by 10th of december the latest.
Where are you now, what do you see?

>> No.12194678

fuck REITs aren't going to be worth shit when we're all unemployed and living in section 8 housing

demand for oil won't exist when nobody has a job and doesn't have to drive anywhere

nobody is going to be buying natural gas when we're just burning our greenbacks to stay warm

nobody is going to be buying lean hogs when our jewish and muslim overlords only feed us kosher meals in the bread lines

WHERE THE FUCK ARE WE GOING TO MAKE MONEY!!!!

>> No.12194686

>>12194632
If we go into a recession, it's only because of a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's a classic reflexive phenomenon.

Most economic fundamentals are stable/acceptable or improving and household debt to GDP is still in decline since 08'.

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>>12194676
I did this one FAR sooner than Dec.10, but you guys just wouldn't listen.

>> No.12194694

>>12194686
welcome to the speculative bubble my friend

>> No.12194702

>>12194614
You are my favourite tripfag on this site and definitely one of the best in quality.
Keep this up.

>> No.12194701

>>12194678
Producers of cheap food maybe?

>> No.12194703

>>12194694
Excuse you?

>> No.12194704

>>12194636
>this argument again
You can't make engineers out of assembly line workers. The horse argument also is disingenuous. The "horsehoe makers" are the people that make money off of the production line by selling things to that line. The automobile replaced the horse, but you don't see a lot of horses around anymore, do you? Also, generally, the replacement of jobs also happened over a generation or two, many people ended up out of work forever, being unable to adapt to the new era.

>>12194660
Western countries can re-accept class conciousness but they won't ever realize that a bunch of Jews that don't even consider themselves members of the country they rule will be on top, capitalism or communism.

>>12194686
I hope this isn't an excuse to hodl.

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>>12194688
>>12194676
post cats

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>>12194686
S-Soros, am that you O.O?

>> No.12194724

>>12194703
prices are as high as they are not because of fundamentals but because people believe they will be worth more more in the future. Which is all very nice right up to the point where they stop believing that.

>> No.12194727

I see Appl hit 52 week low with a Price to Earning of 13.

I personally hate their products but being so popular with average Zoomer maybe this is a good play?

>> No.12194736

just told my black gf and her son theres no christmas for us this year,i cried

i dont know how the fuck im going to pay the private school of the kid next year

FUCK YOU DRUMPF,YOU RUINED ME

>> No.12194737

>>12194661
financialization was a mistake

>> No.12194743

>>12194724
DON'T YOU GET IT, THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD! IT'S ALL OVER! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!

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>>12194704
the only certainty in life is change

if you think you can do the same thing from age 25 to age 60 and make a good living, then you deserve anyways

adapt or die is natures rule, has been long before humans were around, and it will be long after


>>You can't make engineers out of assembly line workers.
but you can teach low-skill laborers new low-skill skills quite easily

>> No.12194746

>>12194661
>>12194737
maybe we're all being played and manipulated by ais

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>>12194704
the only certainty in life is change

if you think you can do the same thing from age 25 to age 60 and make a good living, then you deserve to starve and leave no offspring anyways

adapt or die is natures rule, has been long before humans were around, and it will be long after


>>You can't make engineers out of assembly line workers.
but you can teach low-skill laborers new low-skill skills quite easily

>> No.12194756

so Trump is going to be the next Bush Sr.
does one really good thing (pull out of Syria for Trump, disable people act for Bush Sr.), later is kick out by a young democrat (Beto for Trump, Bill for Bush) because "is the economy, stupid"

>> No.12194763

>>12194727
So did FB. In fact all of FAANG is down. Wonder how the indexes would've done if they weren't in any of them. I'd bet money they'd be doing a lot better, companies literally drag the market down whenever they under perform.

>> No.12194767

>>12194756
He'll win us all over when we go to war with North Korea.

>> No.12194769

>>12194751
Change isn't always good. If you can only fall back on "well lmao you should just die" then you deserve to be eaten by commie nigs anyways.

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>>12194714
Black Cats are best cats

>> No.12194780

>>12194756
Except Bill didn't do jack shit, he was just the presiding president as the recovery started, and some of the policies that he started actually caused problems down the road. Proving that the 2-term limit is bad because it allows presidents to sign into legislation things that will hurt us long down the road but "it will be some other guys' problem." Even Trump is doing it.

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>>12194661
Obviously the whole system is broke. This is the last dying breath. Pension funds are required to provide 6-9% annual return, yield is 2.6%, inflation is unironically higher than the yield, dow dividend yield is 2.5% + buybacks which are better than dividends. So if you go bonds you lock guaranteed loss vs. inflation + raising rates, powell said rates will raise in 2019 probably 2020 too. And outside usa rates are NEGATIVE so the sytem is gonna blow up how can you stay afloat when you are taking beating even from basic inflation on annual basis

>> No.12194789

>>12194271
you mean big tech bailout

>> No.12194790

>>12194309
Dems aren't actually going to try to legislate firearms. They know the NRA funding and gunvoting will surge.

Politicians don't need to worry about getting shot, voters pay for their security detail.

>> No.12194796

>>12194780
stock market is like a game of musical chairs, who ever gets stuck with it when the music stops is hated and who ever come's in after gets the credit both having little if any effect. Been happening since '29

>> No.12194803

>>12194780
>implying Trump is fallible.

>> No.12194811

>>12194763
I usually drop my excess wagie monthly earnings into index funds for my IRA. Didn't for the last 2 months
>feels good man

>> No.12194815

>>12194660
this essay is pretty retarded. lets say we applied the suggestions given and homogenize the wealth so everyone makes say $30k per year. would this cure his depression? of course not, he claims he's depressed because he doesn't feel like he fits into being a teacher or a student or into society or whatever. like he's being silently judged and rejected by his peers. equalizing wealth wont stop that, there will always be groups -- teachers, students, peers -- that judge on and can reject you. even in a society with homogenized weath, you'll still feel like an outsider to the clubbers or the musicians or the classy smokers club or whatever. the only way to remove this is to completely take away all freedom, homogenize everyone, make them all drive the same car, have the same opinions and style, pair every faceless male up with a faceless female that can't possibly reject or judge each other because they're all the same.

>> No.12194820

>>12194785
What if we just print more money?

>> No.12194833

>>12194785
how do i profit off of this

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>>12194769
>Change isn't always good
good and bad are meaningless when compared to Entropy, whether you like it or not

Natural Laws dont care what you think they should or shouldnt be, they constrain the world regardless of your perception
Ignoring them will not make them any less true

>> No.12194843

>>12194820
didnt work for the japs

>> No.12194844

>>12194724
Economic fundamentals and securities prices don't equivocate. A recession is something that happens in the real economy, the fundamentals of which are stable or improving right now. Securities prices only change based on the perceptions of the market participants--which are fallible and often self-validating. In other words, if market participants believe a recession is around the corner, they'll sell their risk assets which, itself, is the reason why the market is falling, but then the market falling will reaffirm their belief in a recession. This is a classic reflexive feeback loop.

As far as the broader economy is concerned, if company leaders believe a recession is around the corner, they'll curtail spending and investment (which is also technically spending). But them doing this will, itself, cause a contraction in economic spending, leading to a recession and a validation of their original belief.

>> No.12194849

>>12194480
crypto is a derivative asset it will act like one

>> No.12194852

>>12194385
>-Down 52%

yeah this

>> No.12194856

>>12194833
The solution is going to either be print more money, or kill off 25% of the worlds population. So gold and term life insurance policies on the 17 year olds who will be going into the military.

>> No.12194859

>>12194815
None of that would work either. People are different and have a different t range of potential. That by itself breeds insecurity. People are not equal. The only 'equality' that we should seek is making sure people have a chance to see their own individual potential. That's it.

>> No.12194863

>>12194790
Dems just have to wait for the demographics to change in their favor. Nigs and spics vote primarily for gun control, and subhuman nigs from the Afreeka vote for whatever the people who brought them here tell them to vote for. It's also being pushed heavily among the more "esteemed" white people because "you wanna stop school shootings right? Not like there's any other methods, just get rid of the guns."

>>12194803
>implying Trump is anything but a release valve for white working class anger

>>12194796
Yeah, basically. That also seems to increasingly be how policy is figured out, as well. It's all decided beforehand by academia, lobbyists, and think tanks, and then the figurehead elected puts it into place.

>>12194842
Morality informs how humans act, and as human actions are part of the natural law as well, then it is possible that they influence reality, too.

>> No.12194890

>>12194863
>implying Trump is anything but a release valve for white working class anger
the left trully failed the white men, they are willing to kill the rich, but somehow the left doesn't apeal to them

>> No.12194891

OH GOD CQNT BREATHE LOST EVERYTHING THE PAST 2DAYS FUCK FUCK FFUCK!

>> No.12194901

can someone explain in layman what this leveraged loan thingy is?

>> No.12194902

>>12194856
How about print money and use it to pay off the debt?
>Seems to be working for out ok for Japan.

>> No.12194908

>>12194891
are you the guy who had dow calls on 95% leverage?

>> No.12194941

>>12194901
Think of it like renting a tool from Home Depot. You pay a rental fee for the tool (the money) and if you turn it back in with any damages (losses) you gotta pay for that too.

>> No.12194951

>>12194856
Monetary. Reset.

>> No.12194952

I can't believe not a single one of you faggots listened to my HOT. PUT. TIPS.

You would've 3x'd today.

>> No.12194954

>>12194908
No options just been averaging down every day

>> No.12194959

So...
Recession is on the menu, isn't it.

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>>12194890
That's easy; because commies miss something entirely: for a lot of people, economics is not the most important thing on their personal agenda. I tell this to my DSA brother all the time: the DSA CAN appeal to the rural midwest, but the problem is that every time they bring up a good point about economic policy, they always have a pink-haired bitch in the back screaming about "ABORTION. ON DEMAND. COMPLETELY FREE. NO SHAME."
With the exception of like, 3 sects of commies that are insignificant in population, all commies either promote or ignore the cultural garbage that the liberal left likes to shove in our faces. For many people, they'd like to be better off economically, but if they aren't, then they can just learn to deal with that, but they can't deal with their sons and daughters being taught how to have gay sex at their school, and the leading communist power condoning roving bands of dark-skinned thugs who might kill and rape their families at night a la South Africa. Their way of life is more important than getting an extra day off work. This is also why rural voters "vote against their own interests" by voting Republican. They aren't really voting against their own interest, they're voting in the hope that the Republican candidate will support their social policies promised in the campaign. Now, the fact that most Reps don't go on to support social policies and mostly act in favor of tax cuts for the rich, is another thing entirely.

>> No.12194961

>>12194951
if you impose a monitary reset you can expect like 25% of the worlds population to off each other.

>> No.12194964

>>12194941
is this something to be concerned with right now?

>> No.12194969

>>12194859
good perspective

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>>12194961
That's unironically a good thing
The world is overpopulated by around 4 billion people

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>>12194997
Great, I assume you will be the first to off yourself? Lead by example, as they say.

>> No.12195007

>>12194954
What were your stocks? I'll give you the entry point you should've done on them.

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>>12194997
you're one of them

>> No.12195018

>>12195006
>>12195009
Sorry let me rephrase that:
The world is overpopulated by around 4 billion brown people

>> No.12195019

>>12194997
I hope its mostly Africans, because they need it the most.

>> No.12195023

>>12195018
based and redpilled

>> No.12195040
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>Limit sell 1 share VIIX at $19.66 (cant market sell since after hours)
>robinhood executes, sells it for $19.83
>"market price" is at $19.71 a share
ok, how is robinhood trying to trick me now?

>>12194863
>>Morality informs how humans act, and as human actions are part of the natural law as well, then it is possible that they influence reality, too.
yes, we can (and do) influence it greatly
but we do not control reality, we can only understand it and improve our influence
and you forget the most basic fact aswell, natural laws also control what we can or cant do
we cannot change the natural laws of the universe, we can only change how we react to them

>> No.12195045

>>12194145
>vote drumpf
>economy crashes

Why do people vote republican?

>> No.12195049

>>12195040
what's the bid/ask?

>> No.12195051

>>12195019
It will be right wing pro gun pro constitutionalist white people. White people are the single biggest cause of all the problems in the world. They are the ones that need to go, including DRUMPF. then we can have world peace, free from White privilege and oppression.

FUCK WHITES!

>> No.12195064

>>12195051
also based and also redpilled

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There is a vishnu living in the Nasdaq.

>> No.12195069

>>12194964
Depends on you my dude. If you think you can call the bottom of what’s going on.

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How many years is this bear market going to last?

also, fuck Trump

>> No.12195083

>>12195078
10 years
its not trump's fault tho but he didnt help

>> No.12195088

>>12194666
Interest rates would be low if they were determined purely by markets right now since increasing accumulation has greatly increased the supply of loan-able funds.

The Fed is just one actor in the larger economy, no more powerful than private banks or the regular government.

>>12194671
Even according to traditional bourgeoisie narratives, most of the victims of communism came from the early years.

>> No.12195095

>>12195078
The market recovered after 1 year of falling during the Great Recession
It took 3 years for the market to start going back up during the great depression

>> No.12195096

>>12195078
Until China falls apart.

>> No.12195102

>>12195078
2 yrs -- Dec 17th 2020 is the beginning of the golden bullpocalypse*

US comes out even more a world dominating force than it already is, everyone else will be at war or have a broken economy

>> No.12195103

>>12194702
Thank you fren, i'll do my best.

>> No.12195104

>>12194222
good luck with your hormone imbalances in 8 years you idiot

>> No.12195107

I'm down 25% (mostly Facebook, Celgene and few ETFs)

Should I sell? Facebook is killing me

>> No.12195114

>>12194225
what app is this

>> No.12195127

>>12195107
you should have sold ages ago but yes

>> No.12195128

>>12195107
You deserve it for giving zuckerberg's employees money for their toilet paper.

>> No.12195129

>>12195114
robinhood commission free bugging trading for US citizens
cant be beat on price or platform instability

>> No.12195139

>>12194702
you really enjoy the buzzword strings that he calls arguments?

>> No.12195141

>>12195107
Why would you buy Facebook? What's the play there?

>> No.12195151

>>12195128
I saw Facebook fundamentals and hoped to join the succ in sucking out Normies data on Facebook to sell it. Also speculated that Facebook might buy up other social networks when the market crashes

>>12195127
I can't do it lads.

IF I DON'T HODL I'LL LOSE OVER 10 GRAND IN AN INSTANT

>> No.12195164

>>12194960
All this can be true, but that's the great thing about communism, it doesn't require communists. Even if people are not concerned with economics most of the time, in certain situations and historical moments people are confronted with a reality in which their instincts for material self preservation take over. For example, people care a great deal of economics when they are in a crisis, and are forced to confront their own material necessities. Given this situation, and the inability of capitalism to easily remove itself from it, the natural result is expropriation by the working class.

>> No.12195172

>>12195151
you;ve already lost it numb nuts

>> No.12195201

>>12195139
nah, they are legit arguments on one form or another

>> No.12195205

>>12195172
Would you sell?

Äh there's no point I won't sell anyway. Am gonna ride this bitch to the bottom..

Good night

>> No.12195209

If the country goes into recession will it force a split between Big Tech and Essjaydublus?

I kinda feel like part of how they got an easy foothold beyond being centered in the Bay Area and that they can worry about trans bathrooms and getting that perfect racial and gender balance because they are pulling such comfortable margins.

>> No.12195212
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>>12194465

bait of course but that is usually how the market works, even in 2008 it did that on some days during the drop off.

Check out the chart in pic related. This is the weekly chart of the deepest dip in 2008 massacre. It has three volatility events involving ~20% swings.

>week of October 3 to October 13; low $839 to high of $1044
>week of October 27 to November 3; low $845 to high of $1007
>weeks of November 17 to January 5, 09; low $741 to high of $943

The point I'm trying to make here is that this doesn't go straight down even if the trend is extremely bearish (which it is). These moves are entirely feasible to swing trade. They also provide opportunities for longs to get out at substantially less loss than they took on the lowest days if they choose to do so.

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>>12195049
no idea, i use el-cheepo platform for actual trades

>>12195095
>>The market recovered after 1 year of falling during the Great Recession
Ehhhh.....
you mean World, or you mean US market?

>>12195114
Robinhood, like
>>12195129
said

its free, and no commission costs, but its shit and buggy
good if you only have 4 figures to invest (and have an American Social security number), but its shit if you have more money to invest with

use it for swing trades and long holds, if you try to day trade (with market buys/market sells) Robinhood will scalp your shit until you are negative

>> No.12195250

>>12195205
I've already sold my long positions

>> No.12195253

>>12194844
Stocks and bonds are largely forward looking investments, they tell us a little about the expectations going forward. The economy is going ok now, but past performance doesn't necessarily project forward.

yes, to some extent, investors can cause slowdowns as they restrict investment. But a crash is a little bit different and involved a payments crisis, which is due to very real factors in the economy: overaccumulation, overproduction, falling profits, and excessive leverage. What we're going to see is a crash, not a slow down.

>> No.12195295

>>12195151
It'll be a good idea to hold for the next week. If history prove true FB should go up by a maximum of 10% from it's close. I'd be ready to sell for half of that if I were you (124.95 * 1.05). Staying in a losing trade is foolish and your money would best be used either investing elsewhere or not trading at all till you make a good plan.

>> No.12195309

>>12195247
"Market price" is usually in between the bid/ask price. You always buy at the ask price and sell at the bid price. Also, limit orders will fill at a better price if there's one available that's better than your offer.

>> No.12195319

>>12195078
fuck you, jew

>> No.12195320

>>12195107
Should have bought Myspace instead

>> No.12195333
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>>12195212

Ultimately I think it probably will touch the long term trend line (yellow) before making a reversal. That will be a low of around 2250-2300 depending on when it gets there. I don't think this crash will be as bad as 2008 by percentage.

>> No.12195334

>>12195078
Prob 1-2 years. 3+ if things get really bad.

>> No.12195335

>>12194660
Ah yes, Mark Fisher is great! thank you for showing me this it actually jibes quite well with research I'm doing on atomization in society. Especially this part

>…isolated, cut off, surrounded by hostile space, you are suddenly without connections, without stability, with nothing to hold you upright or in place; a dizzying, sickening unreality takes possession of you; you are threatened by a complete loss of identity, a sense of utter fraudulence; you have no right to be here, now, inhabiting this body, dressed in this way; you are a nothing, and ‘nothing’ is quite literally what you feel you are about to become.

I think atomization is crucial to understanding a lot of our social problems in this current moment: loneliness, social media animosity, and mental illness.

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>>12194833
Problem if you have for example europe and rates 0% and pension funds are force allocated to 50-60% to these rates vs. inflation you are going to self destruct any country this way! Look at france etc.! What a mess. Japan usually shows west 20 year advance in everything too.

>>12194961
I unironically expect suicide rates to sky rocket 2019-2025, we seen already in 2018 skyrocketin suicide rates most due to economic circumstances. Also, Average people dont have a clue what is going on on a large scale.

>> No.12195347

>>12195333
that matches with my ill informed analysis

>> No.12195395

>>12194365
i hate this image because it looks like he's got the buy option permanently pressed down and engaged.
I can understand if it's supposed to be broken or something, but it just doesn't make much sense.

2/10 pls try again.

>> No.12195409

>>12195335
All those are caused by a low trust society that has resulted from atheistic multiculturalism. People are encouraged to have no faith in a greater being or purpose, no values to instill in society, and no common identity with which to bond.

>> No.12195416

>>12195333
Theres unironically much more debt this time around, and its not part of the banks so the Fed can't save some of these companies.

The only way out is through forced inflation.

>> No.12195443

>>12195409
On the contrary, the deep drive we are seeing for a frantic search for greater values and purposes is exactly a function of that same atomization and lonliness.

It's when people cannot find love in this world, either platonic or romantic, that they seek to abstract this love to larger groups, enhancing tribalism. Eric Fromm's book The Art of Loving is a great discussion of this phenomenon.

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12195447

phukkin YUGE false move, the ultimate bear trap, all the normies are going to panic sell and then start panic buying Q2 2019 when they realized they were meme'd, leading to hypereuphoria bitcoin style where even your grandma is looking to buy stock, then blow off top in 2022

>> No.12195469

>>12195447
Please teach me your 4D chess. How does lying about the market benefit you in any way?

>> No.12195475

>>12194941
jesus christ shut up.

>>12194901
a leveraged loan is borrowing from one person at one interest rate, to loan money somewhere else for a larger interest rate. The middle man keeps the profit.
It's basically arbitrage for loan sharks.

But if the person holding the money can't pay back the loan, it takes out everyone involved in the transaction and doesn't keep the insolvency localized.

>> No.12195496

>>12195078
it's never going back up.
we will see wwiii before we see another stock market.

>> No.12195503

what a fucking miserable day. I could barely focus at work. I guess, for the people that dislike trump, you can rejoice in the fact that his 2020 chances are gone

>> No.12195516

just wanted to tell you guys that there lives a vishnu on the blockchain

>> No.12195517

>>12195503

yeah he's fucked if this market doesn't recover

>> No.12195525

>>12195475
the guy was talking about using leverage from his brokerage firm you dipshit.

>> No.12195532

I CANT FUCKING TAKE IT ANYMORE

>> No.12195541

>>12195517
Well we're going to be like fucking Europe if we get a democrat in power controling the house, senate and presidency. Which means we're all fucked if this market doesn't recover.

>> No.12195572

So.
What do you have to do to not get drafted?

>> No.12195576

>>12195541
Yes, Keynesian policies only work if your population is growing. You cant run a deficit without having more goys to foot the bills in the future.

The only solution is to import more spics and chinks. This is exactly what the Jews wanted.

>> No.12195587

>>12195572
Come out as trans.

>> No.12195590

>>12195572
Don’t be poor.

>> No.12195597

I AM
COMPLETELY FUCKED

>> No.12195609
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12195609

/Am For the /biz/ December 25th thread/

Should it say ?
>Merry Christmas
>Happy Hanukkah
>Happy Holidays

>> No.12195614

>>12195532
>>12195597
don't worry lad buy in once we've finished crashing

>> No.12195619

https://youtu.be/QnimAyfW-f4

Me and a bear

>> No.12195624

>>12195609
>Something Merry General

>> No.12195626

>>12195066
unironically where did this meme start? I haven't posted on /biz/ in like a week and now I see it everywhere and it's great.

>> No.12195633

>>12195624
GENIUS

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>tfw I was hiking for 6 days with no access to internet or any form of communication and come back to this shit show.

>> No.12195637
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12195637

So that's it then...
It's a black Christmas after all...
At least you can claim your losses right....

>> No.12195640

>>12195104
>she doesn't know
whoremoan balancing is easy as piss

>> No.12195643

who else angry drinking tonight?

>> No.12195644

>>12195576
Except Keynes explicitly advocated balanced budgets while the economy was growing and is the principal reason why taxes were high in the 40-60s so countries could pay off their war debts.

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>>12195643

>> No.12195664

>>12195609
>fuck this why is it closed i want to trade edition

>> No.12195669

What a time to be out of a job. Now not only is my inheritance crashing but I also can't get a job anymore.

>> No.12195677

>>12195624
!!! Good yes!

>> No.12195682

>>12195643

right here m8

>> No.12195702

>>12195609
Simply having another Holiday time edition.

>> No.12195731

>>12195443
So the lefts embrace of identity politics and tribalism is due to a lack of love?

>> No.12195745

>>12195702
Um x.x

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12195780

Since people waiting for new thread 2 post
New thread tine!!

>>12195762
>>12195762

>> No.12195781

>>12195609
Its Merry Christmas ya fuckin kike

>> No.12195786
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I have no money to buy xmas pressies for my family

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>>12195780
kind of early there

>> No.12195849

>>12195731
As is the right''s. It's a near universal predicament we as a society find ourselves in.

>> No.12195860

>>12195395
It's taped off to make sure it never ever gets pressed for any reason.

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>>12195609
As a Jehovahs Witness I dont celebrate holidays so would be offended if you use any of those terms. Just say Happy Day.

>> No.12195878

>>12195643
I'm getting drunk waiting for this shutdown to happen live.

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>>12195878
We really need to spend 5 billion on a wall... Immediately

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>>12195643

>> No.12196784

>>12194763

>I'd bet money they'd be doing a lot better

Actually, year to date the Russell 2000 is doing worse than the Dow, S&P 500, and NASDAQ. Much worse.

>> No.12196830

>>12194145
Down 11% since I started investing back in July, I expect the market will start to hit record highs again in 8 to 10 years. Must buy and hold

>> No.12196980

>>12195643

Why be angry? The signs have been pointing to this since early this year.

I’m waiting for the bottom so I can close my S&P shorts and go long again.