/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.12163639]

For the life of me, I can't ever imagine being content with working. I don't have a problem contributing to society in other means, but I refuse for it to be at someone else's discretion.

Only a literal animal could be content living like this. The best way I can describe it is like being a horse, when you hitch a wagon to him, the horse doesn't contemplate his existence or even think twice about it, he just does what he's told.

When you ask someone at work what they think of working like this, their face goes blank. It's as if the thought never occurred to them that something is wrong. You try to have a deeper examination of the employee/employer "relationship" with them and they can't comprehend it. You try to propose to them alternative methods to working for their entire life and they practically short circuit right on the spot.

I'm convinced that those who are modern NEETs are descendants of former aristocracy. They see the system for what it is. We truly live in a society where humans are comprised of two groups - the self-aware entrepreneurial types who will not buckle to authority, and the mindless drones. It's truly terrifying to think some of you are even permitted behind the wheel of a car.

[Anonymous No.12163650]

>>12163639
>self-aware entrepreneurial types
neets are just losers who cant commit to anything youre not entrepreneurs lmao

[Anonymous No.12163680]

>working until you die
No thanks

[Op No.12163703]

had this conversation with my working friends

you do it cause you have to not cause you like it

the look you describe is the look of despair

[Anonymous No.12163741]

>>12163639
Much like the blank faced Post-NPCs at work you mentioned, The Horse does contemplate it & fight it at first. That's why they break horses. Intelligence isn't needed to feel pain.

Make no mistake, the horse wants to run free across far green fields.

[Anonymous No.12163803]

>>12163741
God Damn that's sad

[Anonymous No.12163884]

Although NEET is much more preferable, I’ve come to realize that it’s not so much working that I hate, its working alongside idiots.

How do you deal with working alongside idiots?

[Op No.12163896]

>>12163884

security night shift with a conceal carry

great pay never deal with anybody

[Anonymous No.12163917]

>>12163884
You go to college then you get a job that is not flipping burgers or scrubbing toilets

[Anonymous No.12163938]

>>12163639
This is completely right anon.
But seriously I really hope that not many get to this conclusion otherwise we could not have a stable society.
The many mindless drones keep us alive and allow us self awares to rise above them.

[Anonymous No.12163967]

>>12163639

Successful entrepreneur. But I still have this same thought. There are no alternatives to this slavery. And as someone mentioned earlier, being successful in business is 90% luck and capital adequacy and 10% effort. So entrepreneurship as a escape route is tough. Privilege / Extroversion / Elitist Education constructs circle-jerks through which business operates (business is mostly bout connections and relationships with some transactions thrown into it)

http://ascentofhumanity.com/text/

This guy gets it and there may be some solutions but it may be too-edgy or ahead-of-time.

Contribution to a self-sustainable (ecologically and economically) eco-community sincerely without being enslaved is the only way.

[Anonymous No.12164145]

>>12163741

[Anonymous No.12164201]

>>12163639
>I'm convinced that those who are modern NEETs are descendants of former aristocracy.
Funny that you mention this. I remember some anon saying something oddly similar. The rest of your post is spot on too.

[Anonymous No.12164213]

>modern NEETs are descendants of former aristocracy.

Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.12164304]

>tfw finished year 5/50 of wageslaving

heh, 10% there guys :^)

[Anonymous No.12164354]

Blue blooded NEET here, can confirm

Wagies are disgusting and there is a noticeable difference of class and sophistication between the rich and poor subhumans.

[Anonymous No.12164432]

>get a CS degree
>get a job paying at least 2K€/month
>rent + food + basic needs are around 500€ where I live
>put aside 30-40K after 2 years of wageslaving
>start a business and/or invest

This the way to make it, right?

[Anonymous No.12164460]

>>12164201

[Op No.12164497]

>>12164432
it actually is

now invest in something safe like the ftse250

[Anonymous No.12164506]

tfw work from home and overpaid master race

[Anonymous No.12164512]

>>12164506
ftw work from home and underpaid subhuman

[Anonymous No.12164574]

>>12163917

I did

[Anonymous No.12164601]

>>12163639
>I'm convinced that those who are modern NEETs are descendants of former aristocracy.
This. lmao

[Anonymous No.12164651]

There are 2 types of people, extroverts and introverts, that's it.
If you're an extrovert you will enjoy working around others and gain energy from them. Being a career person or whatever is actually good for you.
If you're an introvert then dealing with people will put more strain on you and 8 hours+ a day will be too much for you and will drain you off energy. In which case you are more preferred to be a self-employed guy, business owner, working a 1 man job (security site), working from home, farmer, etc.

It's really as simple as that, there is no deeper philosophy behind it. I worked many jobs and always hated those that had people in, that made me travel for long hours in public transport, etc. I also had a corporate job where I worked alone and I loved it, even though I was still following someone's instructions and had a wage pay. Now I work from home.

[Anonymous No.12164679]

You think I like being a wage slave OP? What’s my other option? Live in my parents basement and be a loser completely dependent on them? Fuck that being a man is being independent. You better believe I’m taking every step I can to escape this Jewish system of wage cuckoldry and working towards a goal to monetize my passion for art and buy up rental properties to become a NEET landlord.

[Anonymous No.12164686]

>>12164651
>>12164506
any work from home ideas chaps?
have been doing transcription but ive about reached breaking point with it. have considered poker, bitcoin mining, day trading, all seem like terrible ideas since i have no knowledge

[Anonymous No.12164726]

>>12164686
get a job at a big corporation, big yourself there and then transfer to work from home fulltime.

[Anonymous No.12164730]

>>12164726
*prove yourself there

[Anonymous No.12164740]

not working is fine, but unless you're a rich neet, you should just kill yourself now, because you're literally just taking up space on this planet for rich people

[Anonymous No.12164820]

I want to make music solely to make fun of wagie slavies. I choose not to every time though because sleeping in is more fun.

[Anonymous No.12164857]

>force myself awake at 8
>get home by 6
After gym, cooking and decompressing, I get 2 hours a night of time to work on business ideas.

Out of 24 hours , I get 2 hours to do what I consider my only important task.

This is why 9-5 enslaves people. They spend those 2 hours watching the football game.

The only way to make it while wage slaving is literally eschewing all entertainment outside of the minimum requirement of 1 weekly hr of comedy to prevent suicide

[Anonymous No.12164917]

>>12164857
this

I was trying so hard to pursue entrepreneurial ideas for years and when I came home, my brain was just exhausted. I didn't want to do anything but zone out and put on a movie. Sometimes I could get some work done, but often times I would just fall right asleep. Then Saturday rolls around, it's your only real day to accomplish anything, you've day dreamed of this all week. You get a little bit done. Then Sunday comes and you spend the entire day dreading going back to work or running errands.

I even had periods of unemployment where I lived off my savings. For the first 2-3 months I didn't want to do anything - finally a break from this slavery. When I finally get back into the swing of things, then it was so stressful worrying about running out of money, I couldn't get anything done.

Quitting your job and going full NEET is the only way to possibly transition into entrepreneurship.

[Anonymous No.12164931]

>You try to propose to them alternative methods to working for their entire life

Such as? 25 y.o. desperately looking for a way out of the wageslave life. Pls be specific

[Anonymous No.12164950]

>>12164506
What do you do and how do I learn

[Anonymous No.12164962]

>>12164857
what is decompressing?

[Anonymous No.12164987]

>>12164679
>he's never heard of faking a mental illness for bennies

[Anonymous No.12165068]

>>12164679
>being a man is being independent
Strive for interdependence. Synergism, my nigga

[Anonymous No.12165078]

>>12163639
>Babys first cope with alienation of modernity

Cute

[Anonymous No.12165092]

>tfw see good thread on biz that offers the possibility of presenting an opportunity to escape wageslavery
>ask ways to escape that aren’t memes
>keep thread on auto-update
>response never comes

[Anonymous No.12165133]

>>12165092
>online business
>business which offers service to people in your immediate area
>crypto
>stock (requires lots of $)
>youtuber

What country are you in?

If USA, depending on your state, you can purposely get fired from your job like some nigger immigrants I've met, and collect unemployment. You can get on SNAP but it requires a lot of effort and I believe able bodied adults are only eligible for 3 months of a 3 year period. There is also SSI aka disability but this requires some very good improv skills.

[Anonymous No.12165134]

>>12163639
working is for beta males, so is being a neet.

alpha males have businesses with pajeets doing everything while they fuck thicc asians and give orders.

you're a beta male.

[Anonymous No.12165137]

>>12164432
wtf do you get 2k as baseline salary and have rent+food(never mind any other expenses) be 500?

that's literally impossible to pull off

>t. balkan with CS masters 850 after taxes and no real expenses of my own thanks to parents but would be paying out of the ass unless i lived in a literal dump and ate shit

[Anonymous No.12165187]

>>12165133
USA and yeah. Don’t want to be a welfare leech. I just want to make enough money to support a family,buy some land, and build a self-sustaining operation on it. On $40k a year with student loans though it’s seeming like it’ll never happen in this market. I’ve been considering getting into flipping, starting a porn website, getting into crypto, or writing ebooks. I’d like to have a passive income stream to complement an active income stream where I’m my own boss. I have no real marketable skills. I got a stupid meme degree after I changed majors when I had an existential crisis in college.

[Anonymous No.12165205]

>>12165187
>Don’t want to be a welfare leech
Then be a stupid wage slave. The system takes from you, while actively sabotaging your future in the process, yet you are still loyal to it. You are precisely the sort of idiot I am referring to.

[Anonymous No.12165227]

>>12165205
Based. Intelligent NEET destroys low IQ wagie. The fact that the guy you're replying to said "getting into crypto" means he's a nocoiner, making everything you said true.

[Anonymous No.12165229]

>>12165205
Damn sorry I just don’t feel comfortable being a nigger

[Anonymous No.12165251]

>>12165229
You only feel comfortable taking care of them with your tax dollars?

[Anonymous No.12165264]

>>12165227
I’m not knowledgeable enough about crypto to devote a large chunk of my savings to it just yet. Also the btc fall from 19k to 3k made me very apprehensive to do so given my unfamiliarity with the technology

[Anonymous No.12165265]

>>12164987
>dependent on uncle Schlomo to write you a welfare check like a shitskin
Nah, I’ve got side hustles in the works the way I see these years grinding away will make me appreciate NEETdom 10x more when I obtain it.

[Anonymous No.12165271]

>>12164432
There is no magic bullet. Life plans are prone to failure and depressive. This made me sad.

[Anonymous No.12165272]

>>12165251
No...

[Anonymous No.12165284]

>>12164917
Your problem imo was relying on the weekends. Nobody can start a business in 1-2 days per week. Pretend the weekends don’t exist during the week, if you want success you must make it happen within your 2-3 hour daily time hole.

>>12164962
Decompressing is taking a shower, changing, taking a short nap/meditating after work

Takes 1.5 hours for me. Decompressing is whatever it takes to get your brain’s heart rate back to resting, ready to rise to your challenge.

[Anonymous No.12165301]

>>12165272
But you do. And you refuse to take from the system that is sabotaging you by redistributing your wealth to others, and particularly, redistributing it to foreigners to compete with your very ability to provide for yourself. I'm not going to convince you of anything, you're hopeless. You're probably not even white with such a low IQ.

[Anonymous No.12165316]

Had an epiphany this year. Two years into a PhD in biochemistry. The academics at my institute (aptly named as most are either mentally ill or psychologically incarcerated into servitude to science) work from 8am until 10-11pm frequently for around $32k (post-doc) and $38k for an entry level lecturer. Technically, for their hours worked, they earn less than minimum wage. I know they love their work (although you wouldn't think it to listen to them, most are depressed) but it's madness.

I left, which caused massive upheaval for my supervisor (ive published scientific journal papers which are the academic equivalent of profits and they wanted more), got a job in tech writing earning a comfy $46k from home with zero experience except a scientific background.

My expenses are super low as I live on a friend's land in a small cottage, with solar panels and gas bottles, log burner for heating. Around $300 per month between me and my gf, $150 each, no joke. Shes still studying.Got all we need for now, put away loads of savings (i.e. crypto investments).

Fuck wage slaving. Never ever do a PhD anons they are DEATH.

[Anonymous No.12165320]

>>12165301
Jesus what a critical response how do I get fired from my job and still qualify for unemployment?

[Anonymous No.12165324]

>>12163639
don't you need to have like a disability to get welfare?
you can't just decide not to work and get money, right?

[Anonymous No.12165332]

>>12164962
When you have a full time job, commute, trash and dishes, maybe pets, laundry, buy groceries, whatever. You crave for time to just sort yourself out and do something you want to do(often just figure out what is it that you want to do) instead of continuously reacting to issues arising in your daily life.
Especially true if you are surrounded by leeches or lazies, the burden of mental stress increases. This is more of a curse the more proactive and smart you are.
Living alone prevents some of this, but increases depression if you don't like your job and expenses. I cope by yelling at others when I can't stand their (voluntary or not) ignorance anymore.

[Anonymous No.12165391]

>>12165332
It's also absurd in a way because I am posting on 4chan at my job because I have to be in the office even with nothing to do and when I get home in my comfy place I still have to do the aforementioned chores before relaxing, I'd much rather shitpost with my dick out and a blanket over my shoulders. The only reason for this is that a part time contract for my skill level wouldn't pay enough and I am lazy and scared to fix my situation by job hopping.

[Anonymous No.12165441]

>>12165320
There are several things to take into consideration before you venture down this path.

1. how much debt do you have
2. what are your monthly expenses
3. can you move in with family
4. what is your monthly salary
>unemployment is proportional to your income
5. what state do you live in and what are the laws
>some states have more lax rules regarding unemployment, others are brutal
6. do you have a solid game plan to implement during your time unemployed
7. how can you reduce your monthly expenses
>being a NEET is not lavish lifestyle, it requires a budget, you eat staple foods, cook cheaply, don't go out - in exchange you receive your time
8. how will this affect your social life
>if you have one
9. how long have you been employed at your current job

The way that I've seen niggers get unemployment is very purposeful. Here are the steps, and again, this is dependent on your state:

1. Find good paying job
2. Show up to work on time, be polite, do what is asked of you
3. When presented with a task, fail to perform the functions
4. Refusal to perform a task, and inability to perform a task are two very important distinctions
5. Boss poors copious amounts of time into training you to perform the task
6. You still don't understand, it's too complicated
7. You are fired
8. You apply for unemployment
9. You go to the career center to get someone to sign off on your paperwork (process varies by state), pick out the dumbest looking busiest person you can find
9. You have to apply for X number of jobs per week that you are not qualified for
10. Collect your unemployment and get on food stamps

When you do finally decide to return to work, be mindful that unemployment gaps are unappealing to HR boomers. You may have to lie and claim you were working during this time period, possibly have a friend act as your boss. Businesses receive tax cuts to hire people on the government dole, easy to get a job somewhere like Walmart to pay the bills.

[Anonymous No.12165449]

>>12163741
Exactly correct.
I believe Soren Kierkegaard talks about how people aren't even aware that they are suffering.
They don't take the time to examine the world around them, that's why people always feel like shit not have no idea why. So they distract from the void inside with consumerism or hedonism, usually both.
I still haven't figured out if it's better to be aware or ignorant. Although being aware of the suffering is worse especially when you can't do anything about it feasibly, I don't think I'd give it up for ignorance.

[Anonymous No.12165451]

>>12163639
such a pretentious way to call yourself a lazy faggot OP

[Anonymous No.12165471]

>I'm convinced that those who are modern NEETs are descendants of former aristocracy.

Based and redpilled. Our time will come again. Buy and hold, 2030 will arrive and we will dominate.

[Anonymous No.12165473]

>>12165320
Me?

I don't have debt. I don't watch TV, that's what the internet is for. I don't have a gym membership. I don't have a pornhub subscription. I don't have a drug addiction or alcohol addiction. My car is paid off. My internet is through my unlimited data plan on my phone (you can get an Obama phone too). My only expense is my car insurance, my phone, gasoline, and food. If I were a true NEET shutin or lived in a metro area, I could also axe my car expenses.

[Anonymous No.12165596]

>>12165187
>buy some land, and build a self-sustaining operation on it

You realize that's still work right? What kind of self-sustaining operation are you imagining?

[Anonymous No.12165711]

>>12165596
Yeah but it’s work I would love doing. I picture a home with solar panels, storage batteries, geothermal heating. Plant and grow crops, have some goats, sheep, chickens. Basically a little homestead to have and take care of. I’m not afraid of work, I just have no motivation to do work that is soul-sucking

[Anonymous No.12165980]

>>12165711
I don’t think you want this
It’s a lot of mindless work taking care of animals etc
Just go to the grocery store for meat and veggies
Garden if it’s fun but not due to necessity

[Anonymous No.12165988]

>>12164432

I also have around 30K EUR in savings (not counting money in crypto), what the fuck should I do with it?

[Anonymous No.12166334]

I think the main reason people mindlessly wageslave is because of their family or girlfriend/boyfriend complain at them about money.

[Anonymous No.12166594]

>>12166334
Bingo. This too. If I was single I would be living in a shipping container on a plot of land in Maine

[Anonymous No.12166757]

bump

[Anonymous No.12166785]

>>12166757
you are absolutely right OP and its scary just how accurate you are.

it shocks me that people are this controlled and unaware. even talking to people who know how the system sucks them dry are uncomfortable talking about these things.

life truly is suffering.

[Anonymous No.12166872]

In these two years, Adolf lived a life of parasitic idleness -- funded, provided for, looked after, and cosseted by a doting mother, with his own room in the comfortable flat in the Humboldtstrasse in Linz, which the family had moved into in June 1905. His mother, his aunt Johanna and his little sister Paula were there to look after all his needs, to wash, clean and cook for him. His mother even bought him a grand piano, on which he had lessons for four months between October 1906 and January 1907. He spent his time during the days drawing, painting, reading, or writing 'poetry'; the evenings were for going to the theatre or opera; and the whole time he daydreamed and fantasized about his future as a great artist. He stayed up late into the night and slept long into the mornings. He had no clear aim in view. The indolent lifestyle, the grandiosity of fantasy, the lack of discipline for systematic work -- all features of the later Hitler -- can be seen in these two years in Linz. It was Iittle wonder that Hitler came to refer to this period as 'the happiest days which seemed to me almost like a beautiful dream'.

[Anonymous No.12166915]

It was never meant to be this way. Monetary policy is the only governance that really affects your life and you have no political representation in that policy.

[Anonymous No.12166953]

>>12164917
sounds like you're a high anxiety bitch who can't focus because he's a littleBitch

[Anonymous No.12166989]

merry Christmas !

discord gg/UjnqMyW

[Anonymous No.12167030]

>>12165473
What do you do all day besides angrily criticize people

[Anonymous No.12167066]

>>12164460
Bannon fag detected

[Anonymous No.12167094]

>>12167030
Read, learn, shitpost

I recently started a Youtube channel, so that's going well. I am also a Developer by trade so I have some projects in the works.

I have 5 computers and 3 monitors - 2 laptops, raspberry pi, another tinker board, and an old AMD chip. I multi-task on these different machines.

I would like to spend more time learning music, philosophy, and perhaps electrical engineering but I'm preocuppied with entrepreneurial endeavors for the time being.

My only vice is coffee.

[Anonymous No.12167184]

>>12163639
>>When you ask someone at work what they think of working like this, their face goes blank. It's as if the thought never occurred to them that something is wrong. You try to have a deeper examination of the employee/employer "relationship" with them and they can't comprehend it. You try to propose to them alternative methods to working for their entire life and they practically short circuit right on the spot.
You're not the first or last to even think about this. Leftist commentators like Zizek or pic has said that people in general cannot imagine life outside of the current system. The latest round of French riots showed exactly that where people were angry but ultimately got minor concessions rather than radical political transformation.

[Anonymous No.12167185]

>>12165229
NPC DETECTED

[Anonymous No.12167270]

>>12166594
Here’s the brown pill
Maine is way to cold to be in a shipping container
Live in Phoenix during the winter. Get it moved to flagstaff in the summer. Perfect weather all year

[Anonymous No.12167296]

>>12164917
get prescribed adderal asap

[Anonymous No.12167313]

>>12166872
Top kek
>>12166953
Projecting

[Anonymous No.12167326]

>>12163639
So how are you contributing to society?

[Anonymous No.12167421]

>>12163639

Pro tips:

Live with parents , pay them 300$/Euros as Bed money and convince them that you will help them in any belongings.
Get a bicycle or a scooter to train/bus connection or directly commute to your job (DONT BUY A CAR IF U DONT NEED IT BADLY).
Save cash until you have respective amount invest savely a little amount in stocks and a bit in crypto and p2p loans.
do this at least 4 years when u 25.
If you live from parents food/groceries shopping you will save huge amount of cash per month.
Save until you have 100k €/$ show bank that you are liquid buy a flat on bank loan and then you move into it or you rent it to other wagecucks or if you are clever you rent it to a college flat commune (in germany you call it Wohngemeinschaft ) and rip them off every penny with a bit higher rent cost.

In those 4 years you do a part time apprentice to get promoted so you earn more(possible in germany for free dunno about JewSA).

Gonna rip off those collegecucks , and let them pay me and fuck bitches get money ezpz.

BUT DESU ,if you move out of your parenthold flat you will face massive costs coming at ya. Economic societies and groups are always stronger than the unique single person.

[Anonymous No.12167423]

>>12167313
OP you claim to be "taking back from the system that sabotages the taxpayers" but you don't feel any remorse that this system that you are embarrassingly mooching off of needs honest and hardworking people or this entire country would collapse. All you are doing is self-justifying the fact that you are a lazy, good for nothing and unappreciative parasite that doesn't care about the contributions to society of your own brethren. Mocking the people who put food in your mouth will not make your life any better you fucking loser. I suggest you reevaluate your life and realize that you are truly a useless, self absorbed nigger and that you are worse than the people you criticize. I can't imagine how nihilistic and defeated you have to be to succumb to settling into complete nigger mentality. If you ever died, I can candidly bet that nobody around you will even notice a change of importance in their life.

[Anonymous No.12167447]

>>12163639
Life ain't about being content it's about succeeding above others so what you say matters more than what they say.

[Anonymous No.12167472]

>>12165711
>t. Thinks playing farmer sounds fun

[Anonymous No.12167474]

>>12167447
>>Life ain't about being content it's about succeeding above others so what you say matters more than what they say.
You should write a book.

[Anonymous No.12167592]

>>12166872
Woof, this sounds a bit too close to my life

[Anonymous No.12167636]

You guys are delusional. Most people wage cuck because they need money to live. Being a neet is a parasitical lifestyle that's an accident of modern society. True entrepreneurs are never neet, they have projects and goals. You're just the end result of a long process of social degeneration.

[Anonymous No.12167786]

Join the NEET master race
1/6?

[Anonymous No.12167793]

>>12167786
2/7

[Anonymous No.12167803]

>>12167793
3/7

[Anonymous No.12167814]

>>12167803
4/7

[Anonymous No.12167826]

>>12167814
5/7

[Anonymous No.12167831]

>>12167826
6/7

[Anonymous No.12167843]

>>12167831
7/7
Now you can get SSI and free yourself from wage slavery, thanks to Uncle Remus

[Anonymous No.12167861]

>>12166872
Very based

>>12167184
Let those who want to toil, toil. Some people are just too stupid and too lacking ambition to strive for higher ideals. I don't have an issue with this, my only complaint is the system doesn't offer more opportunity for those of us who want to reach higher.

Yes the French riots showed the true power of this system, the rioters were quickly dismantled. They didn't stand a chance.

>>12167296
>zombify your brain
No

>>12167423
It's a corrupted system. I'm not going to contribute to a government that willfully imports millions of laborers, both legal and illegal, to undercut my labor's value and thereby reduce my standard of living. And it goes even further beyond labor at this point to full blown ethnic replacement.

You will gladly pay through the nose for Jamal, Shalonda, Achmed, H1B and refugees - but when I do it suddenly it's a problem for you. You realize that by the government redistributing the wealth of whites to non-whites, it is essentially government sanctioned slavery? You can dress it up in whatever bureaucratic drivel you'd like, but at its core, it is slavery. If foreigners are going to get X welfare, then I'm going to get it too. All you people want to do is complain that you are untreated fairly by the government, yet nothing is stopping you from doing the same. Foreigners and brown people are being given unfair advantages over me and I will do my part to level the playing field. Getting on the government dole is my only legal recourse.

[Anonymous No.12167885]

>>12167861
Pic related

[Anonymous No.12167923]

>>12165449
Yeah, but how am I going to pay my bills living the way I want to?

[Anonymous No.12167932]

>>12167861
How do you glow so brightly?

[Anonymous No.12167940]

4chan braindead capitalist bootlickers fail to realize how the middle class is getting more exploited every year and the wealth of the rich keep on growing and inequality keeps rising.

and then you have some pol cuckservative retards complain about refugees when billionaires pay barely any tax, yeah man, the refugees are the problem, not Apple, Amazon, Facebook paying almost 0% tax and getting huge tax breaks by daddy trump who consistently shits on the middle class.

capitalist bootlickers should die.

[Anonymous No.12167978]

>>12167940
The problem is compounded by the fact that not only do billionaires not pay tax, but the people who do then have their money not for themselves and their community, but rather it's spent on foreigners and immigrants. The problem is 2 parts, not 1 as you like to make it seem.

[Anonymous No.12168010]

>>12167940
But I agree

They try to scare us by saying
>If you tax us too much we'll take our business elsewhere
They already do. They outsource our industry and import cheap labor. The end result is the same, kissing their ass has accomplished nothing.

[Anonymous No.12168141]

so your idea of freedom is shitposting on 4chan for 7 hours straight

[Anonymous No.12168330]

>>12167472
My great grandfather had one of the best farms in the county. 80 acres. It could have been divided amongst his children and passed down through the generations. Wanna know what his kids (and my grandfather) did instead? They sold the thing at auction to some Amish people for $200,000. That money is now gone. I remember walking around the farm as a young kid and imagining being a farmer and taking care of the livestock that he had. It’s a dream of mine to have land that I can call my own and homestead on.

[Anonymous No.12168688]

>>12167843

Based Remus. Cryptofags should take note if you're bullish on the future though, and plan on getting out of first world tax and entitlement obligations since these sorts of benefits systems can only blackhole more and more money the longer they persist. The new crypto rich will be at the top of the hit list for salty wagecucks and entitled parasites when these systems start to noticeably atrophy.

[Anonymous No.12168824]

>>12164917
Nah, you're just unmotivated.

[Anonymous No.12169041]

>>12167861
>I don't have an issue with this, my only complaint is the system doesn't offer more opportunity for those of us who want to reach higher.
The thing though is that everyone is trying to readjust the parameters of the system. Less or more taxes, immigration, swapping out politicians, privatize or nationalizing certain industries. At the end of the day people can't imagine what life would be like without wagecuckery and resigned themselves to accept a relationship between owner and worker which has it's inherent tensions as if it were a universal and natural constant. They ought to look for someway to undermine this current reality.

[Anonymous No.12169159]

>>12165137
Stop working for a shit 25 people company then.

[Anonymous No.12169685]

>>12166872
Based and NEETPilled. Am getting curious to know more about Hitler. What's a good place to start?

[Anonymous No.12170068]

>>12163639
I'm convinced that those who are modern NEETs are descendants of former aristocracy

Since a lot of people enjoy that thought:
If you have a name that is not something like "farmer", "smith" etc. you are most likely from some form of nobility. Peasants had no last names and when it changed they just took their jobs as last names. So unique names indicate a heritage from nobility.

[Anonymous No.12170186]

>>12169159

Actually working as in an entry-level position as an outside contractor for the biggest telecommunications company in the country.Our salaries are just that shit no matter your field(hell this travesty would probably be called competitive to good by most brainwashed people here).

[Anonymous No.12170853]

For the life of you; you will probably never be content with anything. Working or not. This post is dumb. Next

[Anonymous No.12171236]

>>12163896
I have heard that a nightshift security guard is kind of like a cheat code in terms of a comfy job.

[Anonymous No.12171332]

>>12169685
Well anon, he authored this book...

[Anonymous No.12171378]

>>12168330
My grandma has almost 90 acres that my grandpa used to farm. I’m about to say fuck my wageslave job and move in with her and do odd jobs while also becoming self sufficient

[Anonymous No.12171422]

>>12167923
You need to align your desire to live the way you want with the desire you have to make and grow your wealth so it forms one solid idea: "make money on my terms".
Adaptation is the name of the game

[Anonymous No.12171439]

>>12163639
/pseudointellectualism/

[Anonymous No.12171451]

>be me
>yesterday
>at McDonald's
>waiting for my order
>2-3 clients in the restaurant
>a couple of McSlaves was fucking around because they had nothing to do
>white collar McBoss show up
>"I ALREADY TOLD YOU TO ALWAYS FIND SOMETHING TO DO EVEN WHEN THERE ARE NO CLIENTS"
>fucking screaming it at them.

Seriously I can't understand how people can live for work like this, I would unironically kill myself.

[Anonymous No.12171473]

>>12167940
This. It’s a strategic “decoy” to distract attention from shrinking middle class, unbounded inequality, reduced economic mobility (fucking MBAs), corporate supremacy and investor worship (CFAs are not accredited investors WTF?) to racial bias / immigration in an effort to “divide and rule”.

Yes niggers/pajeets are issues, but real issues lies with 1%.

[Anonymous No.12171506]

>>12163639
>The best way I can describe it is like being a horse
Anon we're familiar with the concept of work, the analogies are unnecessary

[Anonymous No.12171537]

>>12171451
>calling mcdonalds customers 'clients'
where the fuck do you live?

[Anonymous No.12171603]

>>12163639
>>12170068
My family is descended from French nobility. Maybe that’s why I’m the way I am. We used to be nobles, but now I’m trying to cope with a system that doesn’t recognize nobility. I have all these expectations and desires above the common folk, but they don’t actually happen, so I’m just a lazy entitled loser who never succeeds. But all the while I always feel like I’m smarter than everyone else. We should bring back nobility.

[Anonymous No.12171607]

I have blown out my margin trading account 3 times and I just reloaded for my 4th attempt. Every time I am getting closer to the promised land, with help from iterated spreadsheet autism. Wish me luck lads.

[Anonymous No.12171645]

>>12171473
(((1%)))

[Anonymous No.12172519]

>>12165316
Can you tell me how you got the tech writing job? A really good friend of mine is in a similar situation to your's. Is there a site you use for tech work, or a certain title?

[Anonymous No.12172795]

>>12168141
If I want, yes. I multitask as well, so I have 4chan up in one monitor and can see when a new reply comes as the thread is on auto refresh. I also just awoke from my nap and ate dinner. Tonight, I'll stay up as late as I want while you double check your alarm to make sure you're up in time for the rat race.

[Anonymous No.12172883]

>>12163639
Get a chill, comfy job that's fun and satisfying.
I get paid $25/h to mostly sit on my ass all day shitposting on /ck/, do a couple of hours work which is just telling people to do stuff then I fuck off home at 2pm (supposed to stay until 4 but no-one cares and I still get the pay anyway).
Quiet days I take my laptop and play vidya or sometimes I'll relieve someone's night shift so I can drink beer, smoke weed and play vidya all night.

Even if you get a physical job think of it as being paid to get a workout than having to do X to get money.

Basically, get gud.

[Anonymous No.12172901]

>>12172883
What is your job?

[Anonymous No.12172974]

>>12172901
Teacher, contractor technically. I don't really have to listen to or care what the principals say. I come in, do one or two lessons for schools that don't have a full time teacher for that subject or if someone calls in sick then fuck off home after lunch.
I get lots of time off too, 7 weeks in summer, 3 in winter, 5-6 weeks off in spring.

In college I was a night janitor. Highly recommend as a chill, comfy job. Just me, headphones and a broom alone in a big building.

[Anonymous No.12173042]

>>12172974

Teacher LOL... Glorified babysitter. How anyone can bare to do a job with such little prestige is completely beyond me.

[Anonymous No.12173102]

>>12167270
I saw you posting yesterday, Mr. "I own houses in Phoenix and Flagstaff"

Sounds like you're gonna make it anon

[Anonymous No.12173194]

>>12163639

Someone built the computer you're posting from. Let that sink in.

If you don't agree with capitalism then move into the woods and live like a native american. Otherwise earn the most money you can using your brain.

[Anonymous No.12173250]

>>12173042
Eh to each their own. Kids are funny, job is piss easy and I get lots of time off. Having the free time to play vidya 60h a week is nice too.
Thinking of switching to an /out/ job though but not sure what yet.

[Anonymous No.12173369]

>>12173194
I like some aspects of Capitalism, I'm not a Communist. The free market lets wagies like you choose to slave away for Mr. Goldberg, by all means, be my guest.

[Anonymous No.12173453]

How necessary is a pension like I almost have my house paid off and a decent savings.. if link takes off I’m well off... but is there no way I can retire early or do I need to wage for another 20 years to get the pension

[Anonymous No.12173648]

>>12165134
based

[Anonymous No.12173739]

Most people enjoy being wageslaves, I learned this in my early 20s. They don't think of it as slavery they actually enjoy it

[Anonymous No.12174776]

>>12163741
this is what the education system is for, breaking us to force us into slave wage jobs for those that don't get broken by it they generally end up being your employers, in places like america where colleges rack up thousands of dollars of debt it doesn't make a bit of a difference if the system break you cause the crippling debt will, you need to be born into wealth and have the fortitude to make it through school to make anything of yourself in this world

[Anonymous No.12175273]

>>12173739
This. The idea wagecucking is some kind of burden is an atomic grade bluepill young people of slightly above average intelligence dream up in their quest for meaning. In truth many men subconciously SEEK the leash; they crave the structure and the lack of personal responsibility. This includes most of you, complaining about wagecucking but still doing it. There's a dozen ways to break the cycle, from walking out of civilization to building your own business or earning so much you're financially independent. Yet even those who do frequently come back here to lament they made it and still feel empty. To which /biz/lets love to shout LARP, because the belief money will fix your problems is required to push away the idea you are the problem

>inb4 wagecuck propaganda
Never wagecucked, never will. You should read this post as "put up or shut up". Quit your job now and find a way to make it work, else you're a voluntary slave

[Anonymous No.12175352]

>>12175273
Legit. And looking at house prices even in my area's massive housing bubble cements my belief. One could work for 10 years and save AT LEAST 50% of their income and put it into a house/pay off a mortgage and live ever after as a "NEET". But it seems from what I can gather that most people don't do this.

[Anonymous No.12175367]

>>12164506
Based
I literally just stay on bed all day and make money

[Anonymous No.12175408]

>>12175273

I've spent the past 10 years in poverty because I'd prefer that to wagecucking, but not having enough capital to start anything has been my major issue.

I see it like this. Wagecuckery as a thing exists because various people find it easier to submit to the control\'guidance' of groups of people or individuals above them, and this creates a trap for those who wish to break out of it. MOST women absolutely enjoy work and would opt for work anytime they could over any type of real 'freedom', so over the past 30 years as women have steadily moved into all industries and now thanks to wage-gap activism get pretty much 50% of jobs reserved for them - these women are happy, they have 'married' corporations\the government in the same women women used to willingly marry into polygamous men's harems. This creates an added burden of competition for those men who aren't happy with this situation.

Every day when I did work, I was always so confused why there was so much inefficiency around me. I kept thinking about how if everyone just had some common sense, we could all work so much less, and still have a high standard of living... but then I started asking talking more to co-workers and finding out that many of them really LOVED the work.

[Anonymous No.12175826]

>>12175408
I think the Industrial Revolution is the reason we work so much. People were working 12 hours a day in the early 1900s, so I don't think it's women per se. No doubt that women entering the workforce since the 60s have killed wages and thus killed incentive to work - I mean, they literally doubled the labor force.

>>12173739
And yes, most people do enjoy work. They are not creative or original thinkers, they need other people to tell them what to do, it provides them with structure.