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>I'm new to the stock market, what stocks should I buy?
Before you buy anything, make a brokerage account and read investopedia articles and/or the books in the OP list. If you don't have a broker, you can't buy stocks, and if you blindly buy things without understanding how the stock market works or doing any research on the individual stocks you're buying, you will lose money and it will be entirely your fault.

List of popular brokers:
https://pastebin.com/mrSchZPg

List of basic stock market terminology for newfags:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth technical analysis charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
https://pastebin.com/y9PRQLR3

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

Basic rundown on options:
[YouTube] Option Basics Part I
[YouTube] Option Basics Part II

Suggested books:
https://pastebin.com/jgA5zTuC

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>> No.12112424

First. OP confirmed faggot.

>> No.12112438
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>>12112424
you seem mad?

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>>12112424
Faggots anger me

>> No.12112521

>>12112476

Anger is a hell of a drug.

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>spider
Wheres the trigger warning OP, I cant deal with that

>> No.12112543

>>12112521
I have an addiction to yelling at people on the internet

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>>12112521
So is smoking pole, faggot.

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>>12112413
Sirs the stook meeket is crashing hadge with the reel bitcoin buy the Sv coin for many rupee gains

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>>12112476
>implying implications

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>>12112588
Dou you even englishes bro?

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*sips*

Yep. Still comfy.

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12112597
>nice argument

so no stock market discussions tonight after all?

>>12112543
schadenfreude is one hell of a drug

>>12112534
maybe dont be a scared little biatch?

also did you read the filename?

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>>12112534
Stop being such baby
Being caught by spider fairly comfy way of demise

You get to chill out in custom made hammocks and get nice doses of drugs that give nice buzz all while snug in cocoon

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>>12112413
I'm a TA newfag. I have questions to anons who use TA. Boomers rejecting TA,need not reply.
Here's what I see on the monthly DOW chart:
>almost at yearly low
>close to support
>looks like double top
>if it goes under march 2018 number double to will be confirmed
>on the weekly interval chart it look like a horizontal triangle
Tell me why I'm wrong?
Is it fair to say that in March/April there will be a breakout either up or down?
Is a downside breakout realistic, what are the chances 50/50, higher or lower?
Will the market crash?
I dont know how to option, so are reverse ETFs a good way to profit off the crash?
Should I simply buy SDS now, put a stop on it and wait till spring?

>> No.12112651

>>12112628
Nah, im going to bed, i feel like a superior internet user. Life complete for today!

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>>12112644
yeah no pretty sure its the worse possible way to die being poisoned and sucked alive while wrapped in sticky strings

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>>12112644
>target acquired
>>12112645
>Tell me why I'm wrong?
because you are trying to use a crystal ball to see into the future

>Is it fair to say that in March/April there will be a breakout either up or down?
its possible, but to say with certainty it will or wont happen is foolish
>Is a downside breakout realistic, what are the chances 50/50, higher or lower?
might be, we are overdue
but we also need a catalyst, markets dont crash just because of wanting it to happen
>Will the market crash?
inevitably, but the only way to observe it is with hindsight
>I dont know how to option, so are reverse ETFs a good way to profit off the crash?
terrible, dont touch options if you dont understand them

TA is a lagging indicator by definition, its good for seeing through the bs in past events, its not a map for reading the future

think of it like a weather forecast, not an all seeing roadmap of the future

>> No.12112734

i hope semiconductors burn tmmr

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>>12112644
Worse case am the queen spider decided to lay her eggs in you, which is a unique experience, still not that bad

>>12112645
Am not 100% understand your question
The lines you draw are 100% kosher and acceptable

Am at issue with your March/ April conclusion, which seem arbitrary, your chart is painting a down scenario

>> No.12112760

>>12112745
>>12112644
I hate you so much rn

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>>12112760
;_; why
Spiders are the best bugs
They deserve our understanding and possibly flesh and blood

>> No.12112805

>>12112645
>average eps still in strong uptrend
>retail sales in strong uptrend
>industrial production uptrend

Just saying its probably not the top for the spx this coming year

>> No.12112809

Mouth breathers keep spamming golden bull when VIX is at 21 and continues to set new highs. This is a slow downfall. SPY IS going down to 130. Futures are red again after a -5% last week. We are going to new lows tomorrow.

>> No.12112817

>>12112799
when I think about flesh I'd prefer not to think about it's destruction, thank you very much.

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>>12112745
>>12112799
Spiders are the devil, millions of years of evolution have proven this

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>>12112809
Futures mean diddley squat right now my dude.

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>>12112760
>says the gommunist

>>12112799
they are not bugs

but yes, spiders are based
they are carnivores, every time you see a spider, you are seeing that spiders bodyweight in dead bugs every day

they are bug killing machines, and deserve our love

>>12112826
na, spiders are based bros, destroyers of bugs, including/especially the biggest disease vector of humans on the planet, the deadly mosquito

>> No.12112852

>>12112830
That's because the market is crashing. Green futures end up red. Red futures end up even more red. If you haven't gone to all cash you are crazy.

>> No.12112868

>>12112852
Nah, even deep red has seen recovery. Market is waiting on Trump and Powell for confirmation of good tidings.

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>>12112628
Yes, yes it is

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>>12112868
Plus, it's the end of the year selling.

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>>12113043
perfect time to buy cheapies

dips max out on Dec 31, pop back up by Jan 2 every time

perfect time time to buy UEC for $1.00 a piece

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>>12112870
Nothing like getting 3 good trades r-right?

>> No.12113169

>>12112645
>looks like double top

It's a nominal higher high, but yes, the interpretation is the same.

>if it goes under march 2018 number double to will be confirmed

That would be a breach of support and a very bad sign for things to come, yes. Breaking support and setting a new low of year is a much worse thing than whether or not the two highs do or do not represent a double top. It's irrelevant.

>Is it fair to say that in March/April there will be a breakout either up or down?

No, trend lines that come together to form a triangle are not long term predictors in that way. Obviously the chart will break above or below at some point before the lines intersect but you have no idea when that'll happen. The triangle or channel in TA is just a way of defining the current price action within a range. It does sometimes work out that the price does range right along with a pair of trend lines and then doji at the corner, but that's rare and it's not important or helpful to you anyway.

>Is a downside breakout realistic, what are the chances 50/50, higher or lower? Will the market crash?

I think it's unlikely. If it does, it depends what you mean by "crash".

You can short the market by: 1. actually shorting it, 2. buying puts, 3. trading inverse ETFs and the vix and so on, or 4. staying in cash (congratulations you beat the market)

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>>12112809
>SPY IS going down to 130

That's stupid and you're stupid.

>> No.12113185

>>12113092
Still holding UDOW till the end of time
I have no regrets

>> No.12113203

>>12113185
Thats golden bull, respect

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>>12113185
>crashed my LMT/BA ever since you posted that

lesson learned, never share stocks on /biz/

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>>12113185
RIP

>> No.12113290

best broker for canadians?

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>>12113290
ask in 6 to 8 hours, euros in the am usually know the good ones that arnt robinhood

weed stocks investor is canadian too i believe, so wait for him to post the daily weed wrapup around 4:30pm EST or so could also work

the next 3-4 hours are dead time on this board

>> No.12113379

>>12113363
thanks for the rundown, lad

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>>12113379
i could be wrong, but if you are going to stay up for two hours or so waiting for an answer you willprobably be disappointed

check the thread when you wake up tomorrow, even if its dead by then, someone might have answered during the Euro trading hours

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How in the world is Robinhood offering 3% return on savings accounts with no fees?

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>>12113420
gotta launder their gains somehow

or maybe they are expanding to takeover all fintech, not just trading

is it criminal to dare to dream big?

>> No.12113522

>>12113363
>weed stocks investor is canadian too i believe

Yeah that's me and yes leaf. I dunno the best. I use RBC and it's fine although on the expensive side for commissions. Level 2 is free if you make a modest number of trades per month so there's give and take about their high-ish commission.

There is definitely cheaper and better I'm sure. I'm sort of half ass shopping around for better deals right now. Sticking with the same because I cannot be bothered at present to go through the hassle of moving stuff around.

>> No.12113552

Santa rally cancelled.

>> No.12113563

Nikkei just necced so we will have yet another red day I guess

>> No.12113575

>>12113420
it’s probably a ponzi. if it’s not, then they will go out of business in the recession once VC money/credit dries up.

>> No.12113603

>>12113575
Not nearly as financially ruinous as CFDs

>>12113563
Now you know why China-US trade talk got dragged out to 90 days.
Both leaders need some convenient excuse to distract their populace from the economic problems that are going to wreck everyone's shit.
The trade war is the perfect distraction.
And If that don't work, there's always war with Iran/NK.

>> No.12113604

>>12113575
They're FINRA approved though right? If they ponzi scheme people the SEC will rape them no?

>> No.12113609

WHEN I WAKE UP WE BETTER BE GREEN

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>>12113604
and return everyone's lost money/holdings

dog bless the SEC

>> No.12113644

>>12112627
someone please edit this to him drinking a monster

>> No.12113719

>>12113420
It's backed by treasuries, which now yield over 3%.
But also... It's not FDIC insured, which means they can lose literally all of your money

>> No.12113725

>>12113603
What's wrong with CFDs?
I'm assuming that you mean Certificate of Deposit? Those are more stable than corporate bonds IIRC

>> No.12113738

>>12113725
Zoomer detected

>> No.12113817

>>12113738
I'm a year or two off, unfortunately.
What's wrong with CfDs though?

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>women

>> No.12114097

that pre market open tho... on the bright side if we fill the gap it'll be a green day kek

>> No.12114120

>>12113817
>What's wrong with CfDs though?
CFD =
Contract
for
Difference
THIS IS BASIC shite, ffs

Plz don't say your are a 'investor'

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I keep buying NRZ, but it's becoming too much of my portfolio now. HELP

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Robinhood changed it's UI

>Again

>>12114120
He asked what's wrong with them, not what are they

>> No.12114183

Things keep getting worse.

>> No.12114188 [DELETED] 

>>12114177
>I'm assuming that you mean Certificate of Deposit?
not the way i read it...

Sorry i linked the wrong post

>> No.12114200

Greenday?

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>>12113609
IM ALL IN BEAR UNTILL POWELL-SENSEI SAYS OTHERWISE

>> No.12114204

>>12114177
>He asked what's wrong with them, not what are they
>>12113725
>What's wrong with CFDs?
>I'm assuming that you mean Certificate of Deposit? Those are more stable than corporate bonds IIRC

Sorry linked to the wrong post.
Pretty sure he is lowing the IQ of this world..

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IVE FICKING HAD IT WITH THIS MARKET!!!!

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we'll never see a bull run

>> No.12114560

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>> No.12114562

BREAKING NEWS

AUTO TARIFFS PAUSED BY CHINA FOR 90 DAYS

BREAKING NEWS

AUTO TARIFFS PAUSED BY CHINA FOR 90 DAYS

>> No.12114566

>>12114560
CGA @ 59 cents

>> No.12114579

OH FUCK
FORD GONNA BLAST OFF TOMORROW

>> No.12114583

http://gss.mof.gov.cn/zhengwuxinxi/zhengcefabu/201812/t20181214_3093439.html

3 Month suspension of Tariffs on Autos and Auto Parts

With the approval of the State Council(China), State Council Customs Tariff Commission decided to suspend tariffs on cars and parts originating in the United States for 3 months from Jan 1, 2019.

>> No.12114591

>>12114579
On a saturday?

>> No.12114596

>>12114560
>>12114562
>>12114583
Does this change anything though? The rape hike speech is still coming and next week is definetly red. A solution to the trade war is still far away.

>> No.12114603

>>12114591
I meant today
Its 3am and I havent slept yet

>> No.12114611

>>12114591
Yes, their factories are going to explode tomorrow.

>> No.12114615

>>12114596
In the biggest scheme it is nothing. Thing is it's a real step in what is happening.

>> No.12114621

>>12114611
They are slowing before tariffs.. When everyone wanted to get as much stuff in stock they need from china before 2019.

Meaning the slowdown should technically steepen in 2019-ish as everyone stocked up. Trump really should push hard though and go full tariff on March 1st if they aren't bargaining.

>> No.12114622

>>12114596
It reverses the 15%+25% tariffs to 15%.

>> No.12114628

>>12114622
Should increase tariffs from 10% to 15% in response by Trump.

>> No.12114636

>>12114622
>>12114615
Good, i was afraid i would have to exit my short positions i entered yesterday. Also isn't this just confirmation of what they agreed earlier? Gives me some trust for Trump that he actually came through.

>> No.12114659

>>12114562
About car imports ?

It means shit for China because:
1-their car market is cooling like fuck
2-China has already got a strong and competitive domestic car industry

These points mean new entrants will have a hard time selling their cars to the chinks.

Emperor Trump will praise it as China giving in but he knows fully well that it means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Nukes at China when ?

>> No.12114660

China is probably more fucked than anyone can imagine. This is because of the slow down in housing purchases in hot chinese markets like Australia/canada etc

If there is a 2007-2008 type of crash no one expected it will happen from China if anywhere in the next 2 years.

>> No.12114668

>>12114659
>China has already got a strong and competitive domestic car industry

stopped reading here

Try again but less stupid and wrong.

>> No.12114672

>>12114583
>>12114562
Literally too little too late, considering what happened to GM/Ford/Tesla

>> No.12114673

>>12114668
Go all in American and Euro car makers if you think they can compete in China

>> No.12114681

>>12114672
tesla is in the 370s

>>12114673
... great post. I have TSLA

>> No.12114691

>>12114681
based

>> No.12114719

>>12114681
>Posts that China is going to collapse
>Thinks they can afford Tesla when they collapsed
BRB Shorting TSLA

>> No.12114725

>>12112413
Considering liquidating my ATVI position and moving in on TSLA. What are some thoughts on this?

>> No.12114727

>>12114719
Tesla monthly sales in China and its share price have one thing in common: they're both in triple digits.

>> No.12114747

>>12114725
Your money, your choice.
Best advice is to never ask nor seek advice from /biz/

>>12114727
>Says China is going to collapse
>Chinks going to have lower/zero income and bankruptcy rates will skyrocket
>Thinks that they can afford let alone buy a Tesla
Are you a retard?

>> No.12114748

Chinese Green Agriculture on the NYSE. Will this go back to 1 dollar by march?

>> No.12114752

>>12114668
You don't know shit about how heavily subsidized their auto and EV industries are, do you ?

>> No.12114755

>>12114747
I don't get why you're angry at me. I was supporting your argument.

>> No.12114762

>>12114755
meh had a shite week.
On the drink, sorry for lashin' out, lad.

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Thanks for the high quality (you) in last thread >>12111627

>> No.12114767

>>12114668
80% of domestic EV car cost is subsidized in China

>> No.12114788

>>12114752
Chinese automobiles are actually good, well the Top-tier ones anyway.
But you have to wait till mid-to-late 2019 because that is when the the major Chinkland manufacturers finished constructing their new Mega plants.
That being said, their EVs are not yet Tesla-par but par for the course

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>>12114765

>> No.12114795

This is the only good news today.
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/congress-passing-867b-farm-bill-160916362.html

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massive spike up on open today @_@

>> No.12114818

>>12114795
why have we still not rescheduled weed. Anyone follow what is going on?

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>>12114797
NO

>> No.12114832

>>12112627
dividend pay today

>> No.12114843

>>12114797
Not really. China relaxes auto tariffs and GE and F didn't even move premarket

>> No.12114854

>>12114843
Chinese farmers need american agricultural products. This might open green. On this news.

>> No.12114877

>>12114854
Unlikely I think. 60% of US agriculture export to China are basedbeans used to feed pigs. With the ongoing swine fever crisis even if the agriculture tariffs were lifted there simply won't be any additional demand

>> No.12114880

>>12114854
That is dependent on IR.

>>12114818
It is pretty clear that Hemp will lead the way.

>> No.12114886

>>12114788
Chink auto manufacturers made cheap cars with acceptable quality
.
The chinks are sneaky bastards: when they open up their market for something, that only means they are already ready to compete. That's why I am convinced the news about auto tariffs mean absolutely nothing

>> No.12114890

Chinese farmers need to transport American basedbeans with Ford Rangers while shooting blacks with Smith & Wessons to move the futures up

>> No.12114902

>>12114877
I meant companies like CGA they create fertilizer in China itself and do several operations. Possibly patented. But then come from new jersey. Lately with the trade war their stock went down under a dollar and this cant go on for long. Cause they face delisting. There is a chance they will get back to 1 dollar to avoid delisting and in a china deal these microcaps will go flying

>> No.12114917

>>12114886

It just means that Tariffs on American cars are now the same as Tariffs on Japanese & European cars.
In other words, back to square 1.

>> No.12114938

>>12114917
It's not necessarily square 1

It's china reducing a tariff and USA has not.

>> No.12114940

>>12114797
>>12114843
>>12114829
She's referring to the October 25th day
Which looks exactly like yesterday and today

Will be interesting to see if it really plays out so conveniently

>> No.12114955
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>>12114940
>She's referring to the October 25th day
Which looks exactly like yesterday and today
Some TA magic i don't understand. OK. So i might be fucked, right? If im full bear rite now, it might be bad?

>> No.12114970

T hiked the div. Now at 0.51 per. Went up a penny. Not much but least it's something and it shows that T ain't afraid of it's ability to pay down it's debt. Stock is under $30 right now.

>> No.12114976

>>12114938
You are right. The damage had already been done.
Don't see how GM, Ford or Tesla can wriggle their way out of this.

>>12114940
Would be entertaining if that happens.
That would explain why Funds have already started shorting the USD

>> No.12114997

bulls btfo

>> No.12115002

>>12114976
>>12114976
>damage already done

lel

>> No.12115062
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>>12114579

TO THE FUCKIN MOON!!!!

>> No.12115063

>>12115002
>>12114976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_7Q_tAk9I
these smug, condescending, arrogant, out of touch commercials unironically killed GE

am of glad they dead

>> No.12115070
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Pre trading looks liek today is going to be a bad day. Foresee another portfolio loss. Good thing I have I to go see customers today and will be on the road so I do not have to watch this train wreck.

>> No.12115074

>>12115070

Isn’t it a little early in the day for blowjobs?

>> No.12115086
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>>12115074
p-people will pay you the most for early morning BJs

>> No.12115087

>>12115074
a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do

>> No.12115128

OK guys, time to get serious. What can we expect powell to say on the tuesday next week? I say his latest speech, where he literally only went on about how the economy can handle shit better than in 08', is a sign that he will continue on the rape hike path. Im all in on this anons and some life-saving advice would really help.

>> No.12115149

>>12115128
>where he literally only went on about how the economy can handle shit better than in 08'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xiy7O1-ab2A&ab_channel=CNBCTelevision

see for yourself, don't you think hes a bit defensive? maybe trying to justify the rape hikes and make them seem like less of deal to an anxious market. Thats my take on it, but im interested in non-biased opinions.

>> No.12115163

>>12114997
https://youtu.be/geNWJXst39M

>> No.12115191

>>12115128
my guess is that they move forward with the hike but set a more dovish tone for the future

>Im all in on this anons
you can always hedge with fed funds futures

>> No.12115334
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12115334

it's happening

>> No.12115367

Gore picture
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7954270/factory-robot-malfunctions-and-impales-worker-with-10-foot-long-steel-spikes/

holy shit that picture

Chinese Wagie impaled with spikes by robot malfunction

>> No.12115386

bigly US numbers

>> No.12115388

>>12115386
consumer is strong in USA, especially online sales

>> No.12115465
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> you can get a better spot just by tapping on the screen
holy fuck guess who's going to be #1

>> No.12115484

>>12115465
1k a day

>> No.12115487

>>12115465
this looks like lootbox-like psychological conditioning

>> No.12115543

>>12115487
That's exactly what it is. It's why they're going to be hugely successful.

>> No.12115604

>>12115487
robinhood daily quests when

>> No.12115618

>>12112521

Question /smg/ :

My first steps in the market I got into gaming, tech stocks, and chip companies. All of them are fucking flatlining right now. What’s the next meme industry to get into and make money besides crypto and pot?

>> No.12115633

>>12115618
I feel sorry for you dude, you entered the market at the worst possible moment. Everything will be a good buy after this crash, so just sit on your money for 3 months or so.

>> No.12115642

>>12115618

Oil should go up starting the new year if OPEC actually cuts production like they are talking.

>> No.12115681

>>12115633

Thanks anon. Got into the market at the end of August to see one stock just barely move past the commission cost before this bear market we’ve been in.

>> No.12115689

>>12115465

it works

LMFAO!!!

>> No.12115727

>>12115062
Wrong thread moonboi
We economic colapse now

>> No.12115730

>>12115487
>>12115604
big-titted avatar and trollbox when

>> No.12115733
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Open and $100 immediately gone.

>> No.12115743
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>>12115484
fuck me, i was training my entire life for this

>> No.12115749

>Dump as soon as market opens
Bull Run confirmed boys

>> No.12115752

>>12115681
same, i sold everything in october, lost some commission costs too but IDGAF better sell than crash into the abyss, which is what the market did. Only a week ago i have put some money into a chinese agriculture stock that's listed on the NYSE and thats about it. But it looks quite grim now with that Huawei CFO beind arrested. Not sure what will happen with china.

>> No.12115760

>>12115749
This
If you look at the daily graphs for like the past month, the indices have reversed from open 100% of the time

>> No.12115784

AM HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY SHORTS IN LIFE AHHHH

>> No.12115792

>>12115760
A suckers rally

>> No.12115796

JNJ NO

>> No.12115803

We'll end +0.50% on the S&P. Anyone wanna bet?

>> No.12115814

>>12115803
ME, and my entire life savings.

>> No.12115824
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Why is gold synching with the market?

>> No.12115839

buy the dip lads

>> No.12115857

>>12115824
because USD is up today

>> No.12115864
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12115864

just took out 1k from my account to put into a Roth IRA.

What company should I make the Roth IRA with?

>> No.12115878

>>12115864
etrade, they offer lots of services / types of accounts / competitive rates

>> No.12115890

WHY TF IS AMD UP
YET EVERYTHING IS CRASHING

>> No.12115929
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I want the S&P 500 to stay red on the day, but not go down too far to make a bullish case and let me buy cheapies with confidence.

>> No.12115934
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>> No.12115973

>>12115890
its AMD. its a momo algo manip fun stock like TSLA. Days like this are its bread and butter.

>> No.12115996

>>12115857
Ok even weirder, Why is the dollar synching with the market?

>> No.12116008

>>12115890
YFW AMD is always mooning before the market crash

>> No.12116024

>"Plaintiffs' attorneys out for personal financial gain are distorting historical documents and intentionally creating confusion in the courtroom and in the media," Ernie Knewitz, J&J's vice president of global media relations, told Reuters in an email. "This is all a calculated attempt to distract from the fact that thousands of independent tests prove our talc does not contain asbestos or cause cancer. Any suggestion that Johnson & Johnson knew or hid information about the safety of talc is false."

STOP THIS MADNESS

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>>12116008
My only regret is I bought AMD yesterday based on feelings instead of based on technical analysis. That did cost me some gains, although I'm still green. Oh well, lesson learned.

That said, AMD is overbought right now, so watch it go down sooner or later this day.

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>>12116037
>technical analysis

if you're thinking in the short term, then this is smart, but fundamentals are ultimately the most important thing in the long term

>> No.12116052

>>12115996
it's not - look at ticker $UUP (USD fund), it's up .6% while S&P is down about .6%

>> No.12116053

why does zerohedge fuck it's readers over with advice like Tesla is doomed?

>> No.12116059
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12116059

I've learned a very valuable lesson and present a desperate plea:

Always fucking dollar cost average instead of buying all at once jesus fucking Christ I shouldn't be allowed to breed

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>>12116037
Thanks I needed this bud , I’m balls deep into puts

>> No.12116063

CGA up 6%

>> No.12116064
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>>12116053
because zerohedge is selectively biased towards assuming the worst of every situation
they aren't a trustworthy source of news

>>12116059
when did you buy in

>> No.12116074

>>12116053
TSLA is doomed, just not on the timescale of most put options.

>> No.12116075

>>12116059
You just paid for a $500 immersive, interactive course on investing where you learned a lot. You got a pretty good deal.

My course is $2500 and growing xD

>> No.12116083

>>12116074
what's a reasonable valuation? can they reasonably pay their debt or will it just spiral?

>> No.12116106

>>12116074
I think Tesla has a very good future on brand value and distribution system. They also get a ridiculous pool of talent to pick from for positions.

I think almost all the bear arguments don't get the dealership portion or underestimate the brand value.

>> No.12116108

Oil has been fucked for awhile now, if I invest now how long do you guys think it will take before it finally goes up again?

2-3 years?

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Buy TME, 2 days later China report economic slow down. TME crashes

>> No.12116122

>>12116062
I don't think it's going negative, just less green as a correction.

>> No.12116133

INTC seems to behaving a lot of good news in terms of pricing the future value.

>> No.12116146

>>12116133
it's not glued together poozen

>> No.12116148

>>12116064
About 11/8, immediately before the market decided to shit the bed. I couldn't have picked a better time to re-enter the market.

>>12116075
That really sucks; yeah I guess I could have it a lot worse, but fuck me if it doesn't still sting like a bitch

>> No.12116150

>>12116108
>Never, shale is cheaper than OPEC prices. Oil will be plentyful for 100 years.

>> No.12116155

>>12116108
you don't get to just buy oil at spot price and wait for it to go back up. you have to time the movement properly, otherwise your $$ gets eaten by contango (future month contract prices being higher than current month). one product that holds futures is USO, compare it to the spot price and you'll see the difference.

>> No.12116165

>>12116083
They cannot pay their debt and maintain their valuation, they need to expand. If they were to pay their debt, their valuation would drop to an automaker multiple + DCF which would be around $30-50 per share. If they cannot maintain above a $360 stock price to pay their converts maturing in march, they will be out another billion dollars. They need to raise capital but are under investigation by the FBI for raising capital under false pretenses. Even if they could raise, it would be at an exorbitant rate as their bonds are already rated junk. They are in deep yogurt no matter how you look at it.

>>12116106
They lose money on distribution, pay less than other Silicon Valley companies and are bleeding talent every month if you look at the executive departures list. Their brand value will deteriorate as the quality of their cars comes to light in the next few months/years. The brand value comes from the "Science is cool man! Were going to Mars!"-aura associated with Elon Musk but that market is rapidly being tapped. Personally, I think the Porsche Mission-E/Taycan will be their undoing. Sexy is all Tesla has and the MIssion-E is just a sexier car for a lower price.

All that being said, I would not short the stock now. Every technical indicator says its going up. There was strong accumulation around 360. I'm waiting for Q1 of next year to start buying long dated puts.

>> No.12116177

>>12116108
long term oil will be fucked by EV

short term people are expecting slowdown which will fuck price

So yeah.. you have a chance but it has to be mid term or on market breakout/cuts

>> No.12116185

>>12116148
that's still a decent bit away from where SPY was in september
if things go well with interest rates and china, you'll be back in the green soon enough

>> No.12116193

>>12116165
I've seen all these arguments before and the mindset behind them. All of it is incorrect.

You are really not understanding the aspects of Tesla that are really valuable. The brand, no dealership network (EV specific), and other things.

Also the reason so many execs left is really obvious due to insane crunch/pressure of m3.

>> No.12116200

>>12116177
EVs may just be a fad. Until we have significantly better battery tech, ICEs are here to stay.

>> No.12116203

go back to the kitchen

>> No.12116229

What happened to JNJ?

>> No.12116244

>>12116193
>says he's seen the arguments before as if that makes them wrong
>says "all of it is incorrect"
>gives excuse at the end for why some of it is correct
lol

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>>12116200
you know you can literally see all related graphs/functions and figure it out pretty easy

>> No.12116253

>>12116229
report of asbestos in talcum products

>> No.12116261

>>12116193
Name one thing I listed that is not factual.

No dealership network is not a strong positive. They are already suffering long service delays (going weeks/months without a car for simple repairs) and have to pay trucking companies themselves rather than offloading excess supply onto dealers. It is a neutral at best. The brand value is what is carrying the company. Autopilot alone is another issue. It's a class action lawsuit waiting to happen. What bulls ignore is that Elon Musk is a proven scam artist and has never run a profitable company. Read the history of Paypal and how he was kicked out by Peter Thiel. Read the history of Tesla and how he stole the company from Martin Ebherd while betraying every promise he made. It will show you that his public persona is a complete lie. (Hint: He is not a physicist nor did he ever enroll in a PhD program. His undergraduate degree is in Economics.)

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>>12116229

>> No.12116271

>>12116261
It's just stupid points.

>> No.12116277

>>12116252
Nice, if we extrapolate that out to 2030 and beyond, batteries will pay Tesla to make them.

>> No.12116279

>>12116177
>long term oil will be fucked by EV
Look up what percentage of petroleum extracted goes to small road-going vehicles and get back to us on that, Sport.

>> No.12116288

It's like going back in time to iphone

>hurrr omg the iphone is too expensive no one wants a smart phone it's just a fad, commodification will happen once blackberry makes a smart phone blah blah blah

You are missing everything that matters with those arguments about Tesla.

>> No.12116294

>>12116252
The extra irony in this is if a battery advance did occur, it would cripple Tesla since they are heavily invested into Lithium Ion tech/equipment.

>> No.12116297

>>12116261
>his public persona is a complete lie. (Hint: He is not a physicist nor did he ever enroll in a PhD program. His undergraduate degree is in Economics.
where did you get this crackpot conspiracy theory from? proof or its bullshit

>> No.12116300

>>12116288
Right
The infrastructure is going to build itself, esp when oil hit new lows.

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>>12116279
I'm getting bored of the retards....

>> No.12116303

>>12116294
is lithium ion different from whatever battery is on the chart?

>> No.12116308

>>12116294
for sure
low battery prices would destroy tesla because they make the cells..

>> No.12116317

>>12116301
I'm sure it is boring to reply to posts without even reading them, lol. Please give some more investing advice so I know what to bet against.

>> No.12116320

>>12116297
>He left in 1992 to study business and physics at the University of Pennsylvania, and graduated with an undergraduate degree in economics and stayed for a second bachelor's degree in physics.

After leaving Penn, Elon Musk headed to Stanford University in California to pursue a PhD in energy physics. However, his move was timed perfectly with the Internet boom, and he dropped out of Stanford after just two days to become a part of it, launching his first company, Zip2 Corporation.[47]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

So he has a UG degree in physics. Basically nothing.

>> No.12116326

>>12116317
>but oil is used in things other than small vehicles

Yeah because seeing an entire segment of use evaporate isn't going to crash the price...

>> No.12116334

>>12116297
From a court settlement with Martin Eberhard when he left the company.
https://twitter.com/RiskAndChips/status/1072298979977805824
Post 14 contains the excerpt. Wikipedia is a lie.

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>>12116133
> INTC seems to behaving a lot of good news in terms of pricing the future value.

Like what? Their "10nm" process is likely coming at the end of 2019 and there's no guarantee that it isn't a paper launch, a house fire or overcosted.

AMD is going to brutally assrape them with no lube for at least 6 months with Zen2 (not to mention their ROME server chips), if not more. All Intel is currently doing is putting up smoke screens to distract shareholders from how badly the situation actually is. Intel is going to get their shit together sooner or later thanks to Jim Keller, but that's still going to take a while.

>> No.12116358

>>12116303
They are moving to Solid-based batteries, which would exponentially increase battery performance and longevity.
Everyone is 10 years away from the new tech.
But nobody is focusing on the problem at hand of power generation NOT by coal plants.

>>12116326
You sound like one of those ironic 'Teslatards'.
Do you like screwin' people over or do really you hate Tesla that much?

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12116359

These threads are so dead now

>> No.12116360
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12116360

the rape bots are back

>> No.12116369

>>12116326
>an entire segment of use
You want spoonfeeding? How big is the segment? You don't know.

>> No.12116373
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12116373

What if it's unironically this easy?
(Right graph is 2007-2009)

>> No.12116376

>>12116358
actually the power gen isn't the limiter it's power storage/distribution for renewables.

>> No.12116377

>>12116334
>>12116320
Holy shit this is real. I don't know if i should short or long TSLA. Musk is ruthless...

>> No.12116380

>>12116264
>making babies into asbestos
radical

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>>12116360
just hodl as long as the fundamentals of the companies you own are good

>> No.12116402

>>12116359
Reminder to not kill yourself. Life is always worth living, even if you lose everything.

>> No.12116403

>>12116308
>company invests heavily in capital to make widgets from blorp
>new technology comes around to make better widgets from blarp
>competitors can now buy capital to make better widgets from blarp while the company has sunk cost in blorp manufacturing
>this is good for the company
This is your view.

>> No.12116409

>>12116377
Tesla allegedly told Eberhard his car was on its way but would have to undergo "endurance testing." Several months later, according to the suit, Eberhard learned an unnamed Tesla employee "had driven Eberhard's Roadster into the back of a truck, almost completely totaling the vehicle." The damage was so bad, the suit states, that the car "required the replacement of no fewer than 75 different parts."

>> No.12116410

>>12116377
The short thesis and long thesis for Tesla are exactly the same.
>Elon Musk will do -anything- to keep the company alive.

>> No.12116412

>>12116373
it looks easy until you get there and start getting whipsawed around

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>>12116359
Crypto ded so everyone including most of the oldfags left
Stocks ded back in October so almost everybody left.
Even the shills left because there is nothing left to shill.
The Shorters got burnt by the sideways action and left.
The Wojacks An Hero'd.
Now we are left with bear shitposting and stale le weed stock memes.
Maybe they will be back during Xmas, who knows?

>>12116376
>NOT by Coal plants

>> No.12116423

>>12116353
The demand isn’t for 10nm products. 14nm is the right price point/performance for the bulk of Intels business and that’s what they were having problems delivering in Q2 & Q3 of this year.

>> No.12116433

>>12116403
The brand dumbfuck

Also a random battery breakthrough that happened with that rapidity would absolutely crush every other automaker due to the amount of ICE vehicles they would have to try and sell.

Try to think.

>> No.12116437

>>12116359
investing is boring if you do it right

>> No.12116449

>>12116413
The problem with power right now is the high cost of storage. You can create a lot of power with renewables the problem is delivering it reliably when needed...

Coal's advantage is you can burn it whenver you want.

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>>12116252
>>12116294
>>12116358
China opened their first solid-state battery factory three weeks ago:

https://electrek.co/2018/11/20/china-production-solid-state-batteries/

>> No.12116452

kek I own like $45k in TSLA, most would call me crazy. I feel better every time I see a 3 though, those are such sexy cars

>> No.12116465

>>12116450
I opened 10 solid state battery factories too.

>> No.12116469

>>12116437
What is doing it right though? All in Total world stock or something?

>> No.12116477

>>12116449
Which defeats the purpose of EVs

>>12116450
Not ready for Prime-time
Needs more market-testing before it becomes viable.

>> No.12116480

>>12116449
Coal fucking sucks because of the lag time to build steam. It’s why most new power generation is quick fire natural gas. Google California duck curve.

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>> No.12116491

>>12116477
So tell me.

Is it better to have industrial exhaust inside a city center or outside of it 10 miles away?

Even if you use coal to power EV, it is still superior to ICE because you do not exhaust the pollution directly inside of a city.

See: SMOG

dumbfuck monkey

>> No.12116497

>>12116433
Porsche and BMW are better brands than Tesla. Others are less expensive. In a year or two, Tesla's older models will be seen passe.

>> No.12116504

>have to get shit tier stand-up all day jobs at temp agencies
>can't even use phone to /smg/
I am locked to the wageslave life now.

>> No.12116507

>>12116469
something similar, but would also take 100 - your current age = % of exposure to stocks, the rest in bonds or cash or gold or a combination of all 3, rebalanced quarterly. it's a simple plan that you dont really have to think about.

>> No.12116511

>>12116497
boomer opinions

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>>12116511
Where do you think we are?

>> No.12116526

>>12116373
I refuse to accept this as a possibiltiy. Let me buy your bags.

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>>12116360

>> No.12116545

>>12116497
That's apples and oranges. Porsche is a track toy, but the Cayenne/Macan are excellent. BMW makes great cars but they aren't looked at as tech like Tesla is. Younger folks identify with Tesla way more than BMW which they look at as expensive cars for older folks

>>12116507
I once saw VT (Total World Stock) and BNDW (Total World Bond) as the perfect portfolio

>> No.12116569

>>12116491
>Fucking retard can't even into LNG or fuckin' nuclear
>Uses Kindergartener logic
Couldn't expect more from a shill

>> No.12116579

>>12116511
Tesla’s build quality is Fiat-Chrysler tier. They don’t know how to build cars.

>> No.12116589

>>12116497
>>12116511
>>12116545
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-13/bmw-porsche-boast-three-minute-charging-jolt-for-electric-cars

>> No.12116595

Guys by my calculations SLB would be a good by right about now as long as you don't go all the way in.

>> No.12116611

>>12116569
too low IQ to understand the point was using a worst-case scenario hypothetical and not about power generation but ICE vs EV even assuming coal.

>>12116579
Then perhaps the existing entrenched companies should have competed harder and won instead of losing.

https://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/

>> No.12116629

>>12116589
>prototype
>research vehicles

One drawback -- the charger offers more power than current models can take on.

For the test vehicles to withstand the full electricity surge, Porsche used a cooling system that keeps battery cells at a steady temperature, while the charging cables were cooled too.
You do know that M3 has faster charging capability too right now than standard supercharger

>> No.12116638

>>12116611
>low-iq dis, low-iq dat
A literal brainlet
That is what you are.
The next thing you tell me is that you bought crypto at its peak.

>> No.12116655

>>12116595
FUCK! It went up! But when it reaches 39.42 I'm pretty sure it won't go much lower than that, like the probability is really low.

>> No.12116665

i just unironically bought some corns

>> No.12116694

>>12116638
>Which defeats the purpose of EVs

I was laying out a clear scenario with EV having a functional advantage over ICE even given similar total net pollution because with EV you can locate the pollution outside of a city instead of in the most populated areas.

Sorry you can't process this argument in your tiny fucking inefficient brain.

>> No.12116714

>>12116545
VT and BNDW aren't bad. But VT sucks far as Div payout goes. (0.36 per share). The VTI gives you a nice fat 0.71 div and is also better Lipper ranked in all categories (Straight 5's). My
SWPPX fund pays out 0.72 per and also has a nice Lipper rating. Just my 02

>> No.12116720

>>12116694
Hey, I got nothing to prove, unlike you.
I haven't seen a single piece of professional empirical data from you.
So I can safely conclude that you are a retard.

>> No.12116742

>>12116720
muh zerohedge graphs

>> No.12116749

>>12116714
>VT sucks far as Div payout goes
VT yield is 2.34%
VTI yield is 1.81%

am I missing something?

>> No.12116758
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12116758

why do I have to subsidize gibs for wh*toids and corporations

>> No.12116787

>>12116714
>>12116749
Yeah VT is the better fund imo, global holdings and a better dividend

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>>12116385
haaa short was successful
boomer buffet sensible advice btfo
algos rekt
gonna eat well tonight

>> No.12116821

>>12116742
>M-muh Elon Musk
Come back to /biz/ when you actually have something to contribute instead of
regurgitating every fanboi quote on the web

Or something that is not already fuckin' priced-in
Fuckin shills can't even shill for shit

>> No.12116834

>>12116749
>VT
>High of 68.39
>Low of 68.03
How are you supposed to make any money off this?

>> No.12116837

>>12116120
How does that affect TME?

>> No.12116848

NVAX on target to bust 2.50 mark! You can do it little guy!

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>>12116793
for now
sensible boomer advice will always win out in the long term, though

>> No.12116855

>>12116834
let us know when you get rich by trading

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>>12116821
you seem quite angry of a man. why is that elon and tesla angers some individuals at such high levels? have they lost money shorting the stock?

>> No.12116873

bullrun is starting now. get aboard or get lost. volume is picking up like crazy.

>> No.12116879
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>>12116837

>> No.12116881

>>12116873
It's been decreasing.

>> No.12116884

>>12116821
>Fuckin shills can't even shill for shit
back to /g/ you go

>> No.12116886

Down more than $900 on JNJ today. Please bounce.

>> No.12116889

So glad I sold all my equities for bonds and didn’t fall for the hodl meme. Learned that lesson from hodling memecoins.

>> No.12116898

>>12116879
thought you meant the NZ auction website

>> No.12116905

>>12116863
>>12116884
Joke's on you.
I have nothing against TSLA.
I just want to fuck a retard up today

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12116916

>>12116886
Tell me this is the bottom.

>> No.12116930

>>12116886
>>12116916

They poisoned babies, what do you think is gonna happen?

>> No.12116937

>>12116930
Babies aren't human beings

>> No.12116944

tiem 2 buy jnj!!!11111

>> No.12116951

>>12116937
To normies they are.

>> No.12116955

AMRN still has a average price target listed at 34.80. Price is now at upper 16ish range. Still got a strong buy rating to. Profit is in the air, I think the only thing holding this back is the FDA. Based on all the results and whatnot that is only thing I can think of. Once they green light this;wham there is no stopping it. The doubters and late party crashers will get ran over by the Mega Profit Train as it leaves the station. Meanwhile, steadfast investors can relax and enjoy the ride as Profit pours in.

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>>12116886
>Please bounce.

>> No.12116974

>>12116951
kek. That's what really matters as far as market sentiment goes.

>> No.12116984

>>12116916
If people don't start buying JNJ cheapies soon it's going to be its worst day since 2008.

>> No.12116998

What’s everyone’s outlook for 2019? I’m thinking mostly sideways.

>> No.12117005

>>12116984
>cheapies

this selloff is for a reason
they hid information about their talcum powder products being contaminated with asbestos

>> No.12117009

If we break nightly lows, shits gonna freefall

>> No.12117029

WTF stop dumping I thought trade wars are over

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>> No.12117036

>>12116998
I'm thinking positive on the year but we have to hit a bottom sometime and this year would be early for that to happen. I'm guessing late Feb for the bottom.

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12117044

who else here /holdingJNJ/ ?

>> No.12117057

HERE WE GO RIDING ALL THE WAY DOWN BULLS BTFO

>> No.12117070

>>12117057
It's beautiful

>> No.12117071

>>12117044
I haven't sold, but maybe I will. I don't know.

As >>12117005 said, it isn't just moving with the market or dropping for no reason today.

>> No.12117076

TAX LOSS HARVESTING NOOOOOO

>> No.12117080

who would win

>thousands of pay piggy NEETs sending their mommies fun bucks on stocks

or

>babies who shit themselves consistently and like to eat bugs

>> No.12117089

>>12117080
>pay piggy

what did you mean by this

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>>12117089

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>>12117029
I've lost so much money since October that I don't even care anymore. Let the SPY tank below 230, see if I care. Let the Dow dig all the way to China.

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>>12116873

>> No.12117157

SELL SELL SELL SELL THE RECESSION IS HERE HAHAHAHA

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12117165

>>12117111
>findom

everyone involved, sub or domme, should be publically burned alive to set an example
this degeneracy should not be permitted (it's also blatant exploitation of the mentally ill)

>> No.12117168

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.12117175

>>12117111
>>12117165
also

>those hideous lips

>> No.12117184

>>12117111
Wtf? Does the pay pig get sex in return?

>> No.12117201
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12117201

>>12117184
no they get ridiculed in return

>> No.12117204

yes
another 259 thread!
>>12117202

>> No.12117207

After looking at my portfolio and seeing the shape its in (pretty good imo long term wise), for 2019 the plan of attack will be real simple:

1. Buy more NVAX while it's still under $3
2. Dump more into my S&P 500 fund
3. Buy more CTL (My div cash cow) on the dip
4. Be on the lookout for Amazon "victims" and when it's confirmed that Amazon is gonna strike, buy stock in the "victim" before that merger is done.

>> No.12117226

>>12117201
Why?

>> No.12117237

>>12117201
Lmao I was just looking at her a second ago thinking why tf would anyone find her special

>> No.12117260

>>12117226
humiliation is a fetish like any other, i guess. people are freaks.

>> No.12117348

>those mid day red wangers
not looking to good is it lads

>> No.12117371

those BASED boomer stocks, am i right fellow zoomers?

>> No.12117511
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12117511

>>12117207
RIP CTL

>> No.12117574

>>12117207
I can dig it. Where you the one talking about CTL last thread? I was thinking of investing in them too. Im also buying more NVAX, as well as XXII.