/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.1203339]

>Entry Level Position
>72 years of experience required

Why do companies do that? I'm familiar with the fact that you should apply anyways, but still it's pretty stupid.

[Anonymous No.1203351]

>>1203339
the fuckers don't want to take 1-2 weeks to train someone

[Anonymous No.1203356]

>>1203339

The employed enjoy fucking with the unemployed. It's not hard to understand why.

[Anonymous No.1203372]

>>1203339
Internships are experience and holy fuck you are dumb if you didn't do an internship in college. That's literally the only useful thing about college

[Anonymous No.1203385]

>>1203372
This

>>1203339
OP, you have to do internships, paid or unpaid. In your first year you should ask for work experience (unpaid work, don't confuse this with an unpaid internship),during ur first year. I did that for finance, want to know what happened when paid internships came around in 2nd year, i got a good one with a prestigious company.

The unpaid work and internships count as experience. My 5 and a half year double degree will have 5 years of experience by the time i graduate.

[Anonymous No.1203449]

>>1203372
What if I didn't get one because I'm not from a target school? In fact, my school's finance department is universally looked down on.

[Anonymous No.1203455]

>>1203449
Go to a different school.

[Anonymous No.1203540]

>>1203372
I did do one you faggot. I have a job, I'm just trying to see if I can get more $$$$.

[Anonymous No.1203572]

I can see it both ways

The employer obviously wants someone who can do the work and has experience doing so, but how does someone get XP without ever being able to land that first job?

It's definitely a case of malcolm in the middle, I had to go through it and it sucks, I even worked for free for 6 months elsewhere in the same role to show I was capable/determined. it's pretty bullshit but hey that's the whole game right?

[Anonymous No.1203762]

>>1203339
Get a position through a shitty consulting company they lie for you.

[Anonymous No.1203764]

>>1203339

Because they all think they deserve top talent.

[Anonymous No.1203793]

Because they get 300+ applications for the position and they can afford to be picky as fuck.

This is why we need to cut back immigration. It shouldn't be that hard to get some entry level job where a company trains you up. Fucking companies love having so many wageslaves to choose from.

Even skilled migrants can fuck off. Promote someone internally or pay better wages to poach people. When it becomes known that in demand position x is paying 80k a year starting, a fuckload of young people will start training for the position anyway. It will then reach a point of equilibrium where the supply of labour grows to meet the demand for it.

[Anonymous No.1203846]

>mfw about to graduate with no interships

[Anonymous No.1203851]

>>1203846
Fuck dude get your shit together

[Anonymous No.1203859]

>>1203846
u done fucked up. what did u even do during vacations ??

[Anonymous No.1205034]

Senior here, graduating in December. I've worked summer internships for the past 3 years, and have another lined up for this summer. Each internship lasted ~12 weeks. Would that qualify me for having 1 year of experience when looking for full-time jobs?

[N33T No.1205040]

>>1203846
Good luck anon

[Anonymous No.1205041]

>>1203859
>mfw he actually vacationed on breaks

[Anonymous No.1205044]

>>1203846
same
>be poorfag
>have to pay parents rent and feed myself and afford my car to travel to university.
>would die if I had to work for free or less than 40 hours per week
Feel fucked.

[Anonymous No.1205054]

>>1203793
the issue has more to do with american college grads valuing the degree more than the experience.

Omgee from Peru is going to get that entry level IT job much easier than Chad because Omgee can be hired for a lower price and the same level of experience (aka, none).

All Chad had to do was a few internships in college and make worthwhile connections, but instead he spent his time chasing broads (or playing LoL). Granted in some industries it's so competitive that even if Chad was a good internship slave he'll still have trouble finding a job... because there's just way too many fucking people in this country, immigrants or not, and no damn jobs. That's literally it in a nutshell.

[Anonymous No.1205090]

>>1205054
This
It's not like the entire population can all have "skilled" jobs. Who would be left over to do all the meaningless work?

[Anonymous No.1205111]

>>1205044
pick a major, like engineering, that pays for internships?

I got an internship at Boeing freshman year, paid handsomely considering I was 18. Dumb poorfags never learn

[Anonymous No.1205117]

>>1203846

[Anonymous No.1205127]

>>1205090
Robots or mexicans

[Anonymous No.1205181]

>>1205127
you're missing the point lol
if theres 100 skilled jobs and 900 unskilled jobs and 1000 people, 900 people are going to be unemployed if they refuse to do the shit tier jobs

[Anonymous No.1205992]

>>1205181
>demand for shit-tier employees high, every business looking for new hires
>few people willing to do that job
>wages increase
>cleaners earning 60k/yr
>instead of going to college, Pablo and Jose decide to go and do cleaning because of the decent pay
>this could be a reality but every western nation brings in hundreds of thousands or millions of foreign nationals each year because businesses want cheap labour

[Anonymous No.1206121]

Does studying abroad and working overseas in your field count?

I am going to graduate soon and never had time to do internships because I spent an entire year overseas since my major requires it.

(It's business + Chinese btw did interpreting).

[Anonymous No.1206200]

But OP, the real killer(it's not immigrants) are these boomers coming into entry level jobs made for recent college grads. An HR person sees that they're willing to take a 45k a year job with OMG 20 Years experience in a completely unrelated field and graduated from a state school 25 years ago with a joke major. And they get hired anyway because muh experience and falsely think they'll do a good job.

My work recently hired a couple of these boomers to work along side of me and I had to end up training them how to use Excel formulas. They were all using their handheld calculators and then entering the numbers into the cell by hand. Meanwhile I have friends that graduated with the same degree as me with above a 3.0 and they wash boats for a living.

And it'll get worse when the housing bubble hits again, then the boomers won't be able to cash out of their houses and fuck off to Florida to retire.

[Anonymous No.1206258]

>>1205054
>Omgee from Peru
>Omgee

What the hell kinda name is that?

[Anonymous No.1206262]

>>1203339
Think about it this way; they're asking for their ideal candidate when they post a listing.

If their ideal candidate is someone who has experience, there's nothing wrong with them asking for just that. It doesn't mean they'll necessarily get it, but it's not unfair of them to ask for it, just like it's not unfair of you to apply for it even if you're not the ideal candidate.

Job searching, like just about anything else in a capitalist society, is a negotiation. A company isn't going to weaken their negotiating position by not asking for what they really want out of an employee; that would be stupid.

[Anonymous No.1206332]

>>1206258
seriously, this triggered me too. how hard is it to come up with "jose"