/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.12001906]

HAPPENING

IT'S LITERALLY THE FUCKING APOCALYPSE

BUY FOOD, WATER AND AMMO

[Anonymous No.12001926]

>>12001906
We have 9 months until a 2008 or worse style recession hits.

[Anonymous No.12001937]

>>12001926
it's going to be much worse. can't wait

[Anonymous No.12001940]

Muh inverted bonds line

[Anonymous No.12001942]

>>12001926
>>12001937
> he thinks a recession event will be good for cryptos

[Anonymous No.12001949]

>>12001942
i just want to see normies suffer as i have suffered

[Anonymous No.12001962]

>>12001906

been here since 2015, made a heap of money off crypto, have literally no idea what this means

[Anonymous No.12001965]

>>12001962
basically world war 3

[Anonymous No.12001967]

>>12001949
Sorry fren but the recession is priced in.
Some stocks might fall 10-15% but that's it.

[Anonymous No.12001969]

>>12001942
Cause it will be faggot...

[Anonymous No.12001981]

>>12001967
>t-the bottom is i-in

[Anonymous No.12001980]

>>12001969
good luck selling your crypto after the emp hits kek

[Anonymous No.12001992]

>>12001967
>10%-15%
Zoomers are really that deluded?

[Anonymous No.12001994]

>>12001967
>priced in

[Anonymous No.12002007]

>>12001906
oh look these lieing bloomberg faggots again
>2 hours of coverage for some faggot dead president who had a son that should of died before he did
>10 mins of coverage on the g20 meeting and about 500 reruns of putin and saudi prince handshaking
>20 mins of live brexit coverage
bloomberg is good value for money on the latest business news!

[Anonymous No.12002016]

>>12002007
literally everyone with a halfbrain knows that a global economic collapse is inc but keep denying

[Anonymous No.12002033]

>>12002016
yeah ok i listen to bloomberg for real advice kek
btw i just closed my usdmxn and usd nok shorts, and soon im going to close my gold longs, and those usd treasury bonds are worth fuckall

[Anonymous No.12002039]

>>12001969
no, it won't
the society is a pyramid structure
if the base infrastructures are not stable, nor will the cutting edge technologies which include cryptos

[Anonymous No.12002046]

>>12002016
i might even open some pound longs vs the minors cause this brexit coverage is all shit, get rich people

[Anonymous No.12002048]

>>12001980

Good luck staying alive at that point roflmao.

[Anonymous No.12002050]

>>12002046
oh and long usdjpy for fucking mad profits

[Anonymous No.12002051]

>>12001981
>>12001992
>>12001994
Y'all fags better kys
So jelly for losing all your greenbacks that you find happiness in others losing money.
Well sit tight and watch the Golden Bull in booma stocks
Cap this and read it again each eoy untill 2055
Then, you have my permission for a 20% correction

[Anonymous No.12002054]

>>12002039
Bitcoin always does the opposite of majority sentiment.

[Anonymous No.12002059]

short nzd against usd cad jpy 100% winrate

[Anonymous No.12002062]

>>12001942
>he thinks it won't

[Anonymous No.12002069]

long on the euro vs aus nzd
if youre taking my calls /biz/ hold on for your fucking life

[Anonymous No.12002076]

short usd gold :D

[Anonymous No.12002080]

>>12002054
Bitcoin is highly integrated into traditional systems nowadays. For example all major exchanges now require KYCs like banks do. If banks collapse, crypto exchanges will stop working as well.

[Anonymous No.12002085]

usdsek is a long in about 3 hours

[Anonymous No.12002094]

>>12002080
etherdelta

[Anonymous No.12002095]

you make this fucking thread again and ill be back to tell people where they can make money, now gtfo off /biz/

[Anonymous No.12002107]

>>12002094
Etherdelta works because people can convert Ethers into Fiat very easily, and that require bank's involvement

[Anonymous No.12002122]

>>12001942
>> he thinks a recession event will be good for cryptos
look everyone a newfag! Check out the reason behind the '13 pump

[Anonymous No.12002128]

>>12002122
the recession happened in 2008 and recovered in 2010

[Anonymous No.12002143]

What happens to crypto? It's ogre?

[Anonymous No.12002146]

>>12002128
Holy shit really! Just look it up if you want to learn...if you want to stay ignorant don't

[Anonymous No.12002150]

reopening my usdmxn shorts.
thanks bloomberg for the great advice which i ignore!

[Anonymous No.12002171]

>>12002128
dear god you idiot, it was never actually fixed
the bubble is about to burst now and this time nothing will stop it
You don't even want to imagine the consequences of this
literally start stocking up on food, water and ammo

[Anonymous No.12002182]

>>12002171
deluded
the government won't let it happen in the US
it will probably happen in China because they don't have control over USD

[Anonymous No.12002186]

>>12002171
bloomberg also said that oil is in high production and that we're not running out..
guess who owns 3 barrels of wti at $50.5

[Anonymous No.12002187]

>>12002128
Hey Zoomer i will help you, i have been in this space since before then.

You just have to admit that Zoomers are the niggers of all generations

[Anonymous No.12002194]

>>12002182
>the government won't let it happen in the US

[Anonymous No.12002195]

>>12002182
ppt works pretty hard but this is going to be way beyond their capacity

[Anonymous No.12002197]

>>12002051
damn you'r delusional as hell

[Anonymous No.12002200]

>>12002182
The Chinese have more gold than anybody else, and the petro-yuan has only been gaining in popularity. If the USD goes down, asia will benefit.

[Anonymous No.12002206]

>muh sign of the apocalypse
Well that does it, jupiter and venus are lined up and mars is approaching uranus. I guess we're all fucked. Time to go innawoods.

[Anonymous No.12002210]

>>12002200
Gold doesn't matter anymore.
None of the major currencies is backed by gold, they are all backed by USD

[Anonymous No.12002219]

Just move your money into something safe and go on with your day, only crypto fags aren't diversified enough to live through a crash. Id probably lose 20% and id regain double that by moving my bonds right into my beat up equities. Learn to safe money faggots.

[Anonymous No.12002223]

>>12002210
god damn you are fucking retarded.

"GOLD DOESN'T MATTER CUZ ITS BOUGHT WITH USD".

FFS

[Anonymous No.12002228]

>>12002210

[Anonymous No.12002230]

>>12001967
>the recession is priced in
Just when I think i found the stupidest person on /biz/ another retard comes along and surprises me

[Anonymous No.12002238]

>>12002210
Gold, silver, and cryptos are going to make a comeback when the normies are scrambling to survive and they realise that nothing changed since 2008 and the politicians and bankers can't be trusted.

[Anonymous No.12002248]

>>12002238
This.

Same discussions as 2014.

[Anonymous No.12002254]

>>12002238
> an anonymous computer nerd holding 1 M BTC is more trustable than the US gov
no thanks

[Anonymous No.12002259]

Brainlet here what does this mean I assume if this happen in 08 people would be fliping sht so did this happen in 08?And how does it compare now

>Need to know if I really do need to get some prepper stuff

[Anonymous No.12002261]

>global economic collapse is inc
>b-but muh bitcoins
I'm glad most of you fucktards will die

[Anonymous No.12002266]

What the fuck is this panic? The recession will be handled now beautifully. Some shit countrys will still collapse.

I say this because everyone is especting some kind of ww3 global burn down. It always happens differently than the majority thinks.

[Anonymous No.12002268]

>>12002259
happening in 2008 = the great depression
happening now = 1939-1940

ww3 is literally knocking on the door

[Anonymous No.12002279]

>>12002259

[Anonymous No.12002280]

>>12002238

based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.12002286]

>>12002266
66 get

Occult Significance Of The Number 6
http://esotericawakening.com/the-occult-significance-of-the-number-6

[Anonymous No.12002293]

>>12001940
Wtf is ur problem?

[Anonymous No.12002296]

>>12002279
Based off this we have a bit of time anyone know a general timeframe before blood in the streets people jumping out of windows

[Anonymous No.12002308]

>>12002296
you have time until about late summer 2019
it's gonna crash before 2020 100%

[Anonymous No.12002342]

>>12002182

[Anonymous No.12002370]

>>12002254
>> an anonymous computer nerd holding 1 M BTC is more trustable than the US gov

Dear arrogant Zoomer,

The US gov doesn't print money the FED does, The FED is separate from the US gov. Additionally the FED keeps it a secret who the real owners are....Your arrogance is only going to get in the way of you learning.

[Anonymous No.12002432]

>>12002370
FED chairman is chosen by the president of the United States, thus FED works for the US gov without doubt. If they don't then they would be already investigated by DoJ.

[Anonymous No.12002444]

>>12001906
Ok for real. Some guy on a german image board posted a few days ago that everybody should exit all markets until the 8th of December.
I don't know why but this obvious larp haunts me in my dreams.
Should I exit all markets? I am 5 digits in stocks.

[Anonymous No.12002465]

>>12001906

Ammo is too fucking expensive right now.

[Anonymous No.12002466]

>FED works for the US gov without doubt.
>>12002432
Dude you truly have no idea how bad it is...the Mutt smell is SO strong with you, the smell of ignorance of arrogance.

[Anonymous No.12002474]

>>12002444
No ROFL, why would anyone help anyone else here?

[Anonymous No.12002501]

>>12002444
Gold is where you want to be if you believe a stock recession is coming. The price has been pretty stable and if a recession comes or not the max you can lose is what, 5,10 %?

[Anonymous No.12002524]

>>12002501
if a recession comes Gold will skyrocket. If it doesn't Gold doesn't go down. I mean after Trump got elected the price has been pretty stable even though the DOW skyrocketed and we live in "the best economy ever"

[Anonymous No.12002528]

>>12001967
Youre a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.12002546]

>>12001906
>>12001926
>>12001962
>>12002444
>>12002465
Really shows how /biz/ is really just retards pretending to know anything about economics or finance. Even /pol/ was more educated than this when it was posted.

3y5y is not even the one that matter, it would be 3m10y and 2y10y. Plus inversion merely means there will be a recession 16 months afterwards, not immediately.

ffs /biz/ mongrels

[Anonymous No.12002578]

>>12002546
>16 months
Yeah kid i'm sure you pulled an average of the last three years from yardini or something. You are about to see stagflation- gold will rise & usd will strengthen.

[Anonymous No.12002690]

>>12002578
From the 50s to today you had at least 9 months after inversion.
Yes maybe stagflation is coming, but in any case there's no need to panic. Worst case scenario with stagflation world GDP and wages stall and asset prices rise, as long as you have capital you're fine. If you live paycheck to paycheck then god luck.

[Anonymous No.12002747]

>>12002444
Blame Q anon.
It's this faggot fucking larper who keeps posting about 'D5' (december 5th) and how a bunch of bad news is about to break for the government or some shit.
Fucking lame.

[Anonymous No.12002755]

>>12001969
Because historically people shove money into high risk assets that crash 80 percent of their value in a year when they're financially strained by an economic crash right? You are a retard

[Anonymous No.12002768]

>>12002755
Oh look another arrogant Zoomer

[Anonymous No.12002772]

>>12001906
What does this mean?

[Anonymous No.12002794]

>>12002772
It means 2 year bonds are about to overtake 5 year ones, which has resulted in a recession 100% of the times.

[Anonymous No.12002810]

>>12002772
Hyperinflation, wars, starvation etc
Only the strong will survive

[Anonymous No.12002814]

>>12002794
And other anon says at that point 9months

[Anonymous No.12002818]

>tfw in central London

[Anonymous No.12002821]

>mfw we warned you but you didn't listen

[Anonymous No.12002828]

>>12001942
>he thinks crypto will benefit from the recession itself and not the government's reaction to it

[Anonymous No.12002842]

>>12002690
>you live paycheck to paycheck
Well yeah. Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.12002843]

countries with lower amount of niggers and shitskins might be fine, white ppl are less likely to chimp out when life gets shittier

the us, germany, france, britain are most likely donezo tho

[Anonymous No.12002853]

imagine sweden when no more gibsmedats.....
they gonna start a massacre

[Anonymous No.12002868]

>>12002843
>>12002853
At least it might racially awaken whites and get them to start thinking in terms of their in-group.
The time for sharing is over.

[Anonymous No.12002899]

>>12002546
Those will invert sooon. This is one of the very first signs something is coming, and everybody should prepare now rather than later. Once the 2y10y inverts it'll be obvious to everyone that hard times are coming.

[Anonymous No.12002902]

>>12002868
>blaming nonwhites when capitalists take a majority of the value you produce

Even in near totally white countries like Finland, you're going to see a rise in leftist politics as people lose their jobs and watch the state bail out the banks and rich while pensions are eliminated.

[Anonymous No.12002910]

>>12002828
governments will likely start banning cryptos to avoid further collapse of the traditional financial system

[Anonymous No.12002921]

>>12002902
Please oh please let the left rise everywhere, investors will run panicking and bitcoin will reach 500k

[Anonymous No.12002970]

>>12002902
You can be economically left whilst socially right.
The White Australia Policy which was white nationalist in nature was ironically enacted by the leftists and socialists/unions and removed by the right wing of Australia, and the industrialists and plantation owners.

[Anonymous No.12002978]

>>12002921
>he thinks people will switch to memecoin
Where will they run? This will be a global phenomenon like 08. Remember that wage growth has been lowest in Western countries. You thought Occupy was bad? Imagine how this will further radicalize millennials, who will now have experienced two back-to-back recessions (and were radicalized from the first), and zoomers, who, likr millennials, will grow up during a recession.

[Anonymous No.12003003]

>>12002768
Oh look the dumb ass cryptotard with no common sense. Crypto follows the stock market and is currently crashing with it. There is basically no inverse correlation between them. They pump with each other and dump with each other. Anyone holding this shit because they expect it to surge in value with a financial crisis is fucking deluded

[Anonymous No.12003007]

>>12002978
Two back to back recessions? More like one long extended recession and a second bigger one

[Anonymous No.12003034]

>>12002007
>should of
Dropped

[Anonymous No.12003053]

>muh bitcoin

you can't eat bitcoin you dumb shits, you'll probably spend your last days starving in you basement

[Anonymous No.12003065]

>>12002978
People will run to whatever asset that isn't controled by retarded leftist governments you brainlet, whatever stupid radicalisation of first world snowflakes will have no impact anywhere else than their goverment, that's why investors will run away from those sinking ships and crypto will be pretty attractive for them.

[Anonymous No.12003073]

Is this seriously something to be worried about or is /biz/, /x/, and /pol/ larping again?

[Anonymous No.12003077]

>>12003065
No the reality is they will run to liquidate their volatile high risk assets to pay bills. In a crisis people aren't worried about moving their money out of Fiat because they don't have money to spend anyways

[Anonymous No.12003084]

>>12003073
It's unironically real, we are fucked

[Anonymous No.12003085]

>>12003073
You should always be worried

[Anonymous No.12003095]

>>12003077
Hahahahahahaha being this retarded, who cares about plebs money, we're talking about people with real money that will reduce their exposure to assets controlled by retarded leftist governments and move their wealth to assets where those idiots have no access to.

[Anonymous No.12003097]

>>12003003
Guys,

BTC will do well in a recession. Why do you ask? B/c banks will *most likely* be forced to confiscate funds up to the insurance amount in that given country...I hope you are all aware that the insurance on the account is not step up of a banking system collapse btw.

This is what happened in '13 in Cyprus, anyone with more than 100k got there funds confiscated up to 100k, that was the reason for the spike. The rich want to keep there wealth...Sure the price of crypto will fluctuate but its better to have something as apposed to nothing. In '13 there was a real fear that Cyprus was a testing ground & it would carry over to ROW. The reality is the banks are in a worse place than in '13, come the next rescission I don't see how the banks won't HAVE to do this.

FYI that 'money' in 'your' bank account is not yours...its the banks

I quickly looked up this, let me know if you want further clarification
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyprus-parliament/cyprus-banks-remain-closed-to-avert-run-on-deposits-idUSBRE92G03I20130325

[Anonymous No.12003106]

>>12003097
Good luck convincing a large number of people to get money onto exchanges for a Bitcoin pump when their bank accounts are frozen you dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.12003118]

>>12003095
How are you going to maintain or pump crypto prices without the plebs? You think you can achieve a pump or even maintain bitcoins price with low volume and a few whale minorities you dumb retard

[Anonymous No.12003120]

>>12003106
Fewer people getting money into the system would make it less liquid allowing for sharper price jumps under duress, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12003124]

>>12003085
this

[Anonymous No.12003137]

>>12003120
Fewer people getting money into the system literally means less money in the system you dumb shit

[Anonymous No.12003142]

>>12003095
>and move their wealth
They can only move their fiat monopoly money. They can't move their factories or assets. You think this will be like some masturbatory Ayn Rand novel, but these people still need customers. There's a while range of things that can be done, from revoking intellectual property, to exclusion from markets, to outright abolishing money.

[Anonymous No.12003154]

>>12001942
>he doesn't know about problem reaction solution. They want a one world government, currency, cashless society. How do you sign em up? Make the new one then break the old one.

[Anonymous No.12003158]

>>12003106
Arrogant zoomer cunt!
When the rich saw what was happening in '13 ppl feared it *could* happen to them!

I actually experienced the jump in price you dumb fuck...1 year nearly to the day Mt Gox, happened! China ban ect... plus the fact that more confiscation did not happen outside of Cyprus...It was fear based

[Anonymous No.12003162]

>>12003097
This and central banks will flood the economy with new liquidity trying to stop the falling price of stocks and to stimulate aggregate demand, which will only cause inflation.

This is basic Krugman's DD AA model, when you go for an expansionary monetary policy supply overtakes demand, as so many people has money that is willing to lend but there is little demand for it they start competing with each other driving down real interest rates, once the interest rates in dollars are too low in comparison with what other currencies or assets offer, agents start moving to those assets causing a depreciation of the currency they're running from.

Sadly 99% of people here are brainlets and don't even understand basic shit like this.

[Anonymous No.12003166]

>>12003154
You're even more retarded than the retards banking on a crypto surge in a recession. Like seriously you actually believe crypto is superior to traditional electronic banking in the eyes of da jewz n da elite? This is a level of retarded that is actually hilarious

[Anonymous No.12003178]

>>12003158
Yes fear from retards outside of Cyprus. Cyprians weren't the ones pushing the price up. How the fuck could they with a bank freeze and a population less than some of the world's large cities?

[Anonymous No.12003188]

>>12003142
Those factories are not in the US anymore, the US has little to say about what happens in China or Vietnam, why the fuck will those countries stand up for the US dollar when they can accumulate the assets that foreign investors really want to hold? The dollar will go to the shitter if leftards take over thats a fact.

[Anonymous No.12003193]

>>12003137
How fucking dumb are you? People still get to set their price.
Their can be less money reaching for smaller slices of a costlier pie. Take a look at how bitcoin has worked in literally any collapsed or collapsing shithole.
Why is this hard for you to understand you stupid faggot?
Why do the discord groups pick illiquid coins for PnD? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

God you fucking zoomerz and your flouride. I swear.

[Anonymous No.12003205]

>>12003178
>Cyprians weren't the ones pushing the price up
I never said they where!

I can see you don't have a basic understanding of banking, Outside of the NPC shit everyone knows (which is generally wrong)

Please stop thinkin your intelligent, your not

[Anonymous No.12003219]

Is i

[Anonymous No.12003228]

>>12001906
>oh noez muh nucular fallout!!!

[Anonymous No.12003241]

Is this really some doomsday scenario or just shittier life?
I got a house, no debts and a heavy industry job
I'm europoor in a mainly white country, am I fucked?

[Anonymous No.12003269]

>>12003241
if you're in a recession resistant industry you'll probably be fine

[Anonymous No.12003272]

>>12003205
So what do then sir, where to put money

2-yr/10-yr curve is almost at inversion point, seems few years off the inevitable, what are u doing with ur fiat?

[Anonymous No.12003289]

>>12003241
Depends, if leftards get to power you're all fucked because they'll start fucking with the euro. If conservatives somehow stay in power you'll suffer if you depend on gibs or are in an industry supported by government subsidies.

[Anonymous No.12003309]

>>12001942
>not buying the stock and crypto dip and buying all global assets at the low.
Stay poor.

[Anonymous No.12003316]

>>12002007
>bloomberg is good value for money on the latest business news!
I only watch for alix steel.

[Anonymous No.12003327]

>>12002902
>mozambique has literally been a marxist country from the 70's

[Anonymous No.12003342]

>>12002528
Suck my recession, godlberg !

[Anonymous No.12003350]

>>12003272
>So what do then sir, where to put money
Dude, No one knows! I would say that the bank has to be one of the worst places...

>2-yr/10-yr curve is almost at inversion point, seems few years off the inevitable
I agree, the 10y note is a basis for a lot of bankin/investment, why buy a bond that will be worth less that what you put in due to inflation? Why expose yourself to the risk?

>what are u doing with ur fiat?
crypto, physical gold, ATM trying to understand FOREX so i can benefit from 'carry'& from fluctuation that fit my world view.

I am not 'smart' or 'intelligent' I am simply tryin to relay my experience to a board that was most likely to young to see what happened

[Anonymous No.12003361]

>>12001949
>as I have suffered
Most loser 4channers like you suffer on your own accord because you're pretty stupid but you think you're smart. Pretty much insufferable, a lot of you are shitty losers and while you can't wait for a recession to fuck normies I can't wait to see you fuck yourself over by messing with a market you don't understand and getting scammed like the retards you are. The purging of this place when 90% of /biz/ investments go to 0 is going to be awesome.

[Anonymous No.12003369]

>>12003350
You said BTC will do well, could you elaborate that and the whole cyprus debacle in ELI5 terms (someone is insta-triggered by reading this)?

[Anonymous No.12003376]

I was just told by someone that is high up in the corporate finance world, ....that this will go to shit when "2 and 10 invert"

What does this mean?

[Anonymous No.12003389]

>>12003376
https://ycharts.com/indicators/210_year_treasury_yield_spread

When this reaches 0% and lower, thats when it gets real. This is a more important version of OPs image, same idea

[Anonymous No.12003397]

Going to zero

[Anonymous No.12003425]

>>12003084
>>12003085
Can you explain what exactly is so bad about what is going to happen?
t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.12003429]

>>12003389
is it true that banks will just close and freeze our money?

[Anonymous No.12003448]

>>12003425
seconding this, I honestly can't make difference between the actual thing and prepper autism

[Anonymous No.12003469]

>>12003429
I have 0 knowledge on any of this, just good at connections dot and math. Someone said 10-yr/20-yr chart at the inversion point (0%) is the sign of a recession

>>12003425
>>12003448
Google the 2008 recession

[Anonymous No.12003486]

>>12003350
I should say that ATM i am only buying POW, Mined coins. Keep away from the SEC...

>>12003369
In '13 crypto was still new...BTC is the original king, DESU i should not have said BTC...just crypto in general...In '13 I was speakin to ppl that were ex professional traders that probably had a good few MM about Crypto, they all did not know why the spike happened in '13. Yes they where boomers but they came from JP ect...i was surprised they were unaware about the reality of the bank closures.

>the whole cyprus debacle in ELI5 terms
When you open a bank account you become an authorised representative for the bank.
The funds that go into the account are deposed from you & go to the bank. You effectively work for the bank...Your job, to extend bank credit.
The more funds the bank has the more they can loan out. You are assuming that risk & that is why the bank provides interest on your funds (I don't use interest baring accounts for this reason, the bank is not supposed to loan 'my' money out without compensation (interest)).
They are taking a risk & you need a reward. If the bank fails (i.e the loan repayments are not sufficient to let depositors withdraw funds) they have a few options 1. bail out from Gov. 2. Bail out from private investors 3. the Authorised reps for the bank (ppl with accounts). I can't think a 4th but history might show us

Cyprus picked option 3. the majority of the funds in the banks where foreign holders i.e they don't vote, Cyprus was considered (& still is by some) as a tax haven...

Let me know...sorry if i did not answer correctly and you knew that....

[Anonymous No.12003492]

>>12003469
>Google the 2008 recession
Wasnt that part of a black swan event of mortgages crashing? What black swan event could cause something this time? Obvious it's a black swan so unseen but is there any particular weakness in markets? I suppose we could pull back like the first tech bubble after valuations didnt match actual results.

[Anonymous No.12003503]

>>12003316
shes ok, i like that bitch on during the euro open real curvy, forgot her name but shes a fucking babe

[Anonymous No.12003513]

>>12003003
Equities go down, and commodities go up

Equities go up, and commodities go down

hey look BTC is a commodity hmm wonder whats gonna happen I guess every single time any kind of economy crashed BTC went down with it... right?

WRONG.

Literally every single legacy system financial crisis that has happened since the creation of bitcoin, has unequivocally pumped it

crypto has crashed because retail normies and boomers capitulated, not because the stock market is going down

They quite literally have nothing to do with each other and if you actually had any data youd see that the relationship between the stock market and BTC price and economics literally have such a small correlation that its essentially zero

[Anonymous No.12003522]

>>12003492
>black swan event
Don't believe the media lies, a good few knew & DESU I was too naive, i thought it was wrong to profit from others misery....

Most 'investors' are arrogant kinda like this board....

[Anonymous No.12003536]

>>12003137
and less money in the system means its more volatile, which is exactly the point you are trying to disprove...

Not sure if you are daft, retarded, or trolling because you literally just agreed with what he said and then said hes wrong

[Anonymous No.12003551]

Read siege

[Anonymous No.12003567]

>>12002432
>>12002432
>>12002432
>FED chairman is chosen by the president
from a pool of people selected by the fed you twat

[Anonymous No.12003570]

>>12003361
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.12003580]

>>12001942
>Can't make money on a downturn
Get a load of this poor goy

[Anonymous No.12003671]

there is a IT'S HAPPENING thread every day since /biz/ was created and nothing has happened and won't happen this time either
yawn another nothingburger

[Anonymous No.12003685]

>>12002546
>Plus inversion merely means there will be a recession 16 months afterwards, not immediately.
Calling others retarded and then saying something like this.

Inversion does not "mean" anything, other than investors expect falling interest rates, therefore rushing in to "lock" the higher long-term rates and thus bidding price up and yields down, resulting in flattening/inversion

[Anonymous No.12003737]

>>12001967
We gonna price in your skull and soul once the day of feeding is upon us.

[Anonymous No.12003793]

>>12003685
It's risk of default of the 10 year bonds not falling interest rates brainlet

[Anonymous No.12003822]

>>12002039
How will crypto crash if noone csn get online to sell yo sell them? Checkmate.

[Anonymous No.12003880]

>>12001967
Imagine actually believing this
keep hiolding anon, itll only be down 10-15% make sure you stay strong

[Anonymous No.12003900]

>>12003793
No it is not you fucking retard. Why would investors BUY 10 YEAR BONDS = DRIVE PRICES UP AND YIELDS DOWN IF THEY EXPECT THAT THESE VERY BONDS HAVE A HIGHER RISK OF DEFAULT

[Anonymous No.12003930]

>>12003793
>>12003900
There isn't a single person in the world that thinks usbonds will default.

The absolute state of 18 yr olds.

[Anonymous No.12004230]

[Anonymous No.12004253]

>>12001967
only good news can be priced in

fear is a stronger emotion than greed

[Anonymous No.12004282]

>>12004230
AAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.12004486]

where's my boy Ron

[Anonymous No.12004516]

do you guys ever drop the epic day trader LARP and look at your thousands of dollars of fake online money with nothing to show for it, maybe a degree but tens of thousands of dollars of debt if you're lucky, and a shitty job economy where you can either work incredibly long hours for stagnant wages and no benefits or attempt to slave away at some misguided attempt at entrepreneurship that will probably leave you with nothing? what about the current system we live under is appealing to any of you? the idea that there are rich people, and that one day you may be one of them?

[Anonymous No.12004551]

>>12004516
I also like food

[Anonymous No.12004564]

This will lead to WW3 lads

[Anonymous No.12004570]

>>12002080
All that's really needed is at least one working bank and one country allowing btc/fiat trading to keep the shit going.

[Anonymous No.12004574]

>>12001906
"Treasury yield"? Can someone explain this to a brainlet barely english speaker pls.

[Anonymous No.12004592]

I missed out on this thread

Give me a quick run down

[Anonymous No.12004600]

>>12004551
the only alternative to this neoliberal hell is stalin/mao esque vanguard "democratic" planning? Is agriculture the exact same as it was 50 years ago? We can't take back our ability to flourish without starving ourselves with massive famines?

[Anonymous No.12005401]

>>12004230

UNIRONICALLY::

>Should I switch my 401k to majority bonds in the coming months to pre-nig the crash and save my money from evaporating, then switch it back over when stocks are super low?

pls help

[Anonymous No.12005467]

>>12005401
>Should I switch my 401k to majority bonds
Why on earth would you move into bonds during a stampede for poorer returns?

Your 401k is a long term investment and shouldn't be based on short-term swings. Just relax and make sure the companies you have stock in are solid

[Anonymous No.12005499]

>>12005467

unfortunately my 401k options are pretty much indexes and I have no control on what exact stocks they are invested in, only shown what stocks are in what groups i have to choose from...

[Anonymous No.12005575]

>>12002546
do you not realize what trends are?

[Anonymous No.12005598]

What if it dips briefly then goes back up? Recession fags BTFO.

[Anonymous No.12005617]

My brothers, we may soon experience pain and suffering greater than any of us have ever known. We must be brave. I suggest prayer and acceptance.

May the end come peacefully.

[Anonymous No.12005628]

>>12002546

Dont confuse us with the truth.

[Anonymous No.12005654]

>>12005617
inshallah

[Anonymous No.12005755]

>>12002821

[Anonymous No.12005782]

>>12005401
The 60/40 rule is back in style again

[Anonymous No.12005959]

>>12002546
Yeah, well, good thing 2y10y is absolutely almost happening RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>12005934

[Anonymous No.12005984]

>mfw I have a steady income and assets are in discount soon

[Anonymous No.12006239]

>>12001949
get a job, faggot.

[Anonymous No.12006515]

>>12002210
A-are you being serious?

[Anonymous No.12006526]

>>12002238
Dont count Bitcoin there. Do you think the chinese miners will get trillions handed over to them?

[Anonymous No.12006535]

>>12005499
Still a better deal, time for a restructure.
Taking from your 401k would just end up fucking you with fees.
Make sure you're in blue chips and materials, or switch to materials early in the recovery.
Watch overseas companies big in the third world: Caterpillar and the like. Strong blue chips that have diversified their offerings: Comcast, IBM, Amazon, google, and then just ride it. Those companies aren't going anywhere and the government has been asleep for decades so monopolies won't be broken any time soon.
tl:dr: blue chips into materials in your indexes and wait it out.
Get your savings in order just in case.

[Anonymous No.12006562]

>>12001967

[Anonymous No.12006565]

>>12002210
>Ladies and Gentlemen
Screenshot this asap. This is the average /biz/ poster.

[Anonymous No.12006659]

>>12005499
Also Berkshire Hathaway tanking on all their biggest investments, could drop more than 20% before next year is over.
Watch for a solid bottom and then make sure you've got an index in banking and investment with BRK.aN.
>apple down >5% currently on weak sales, Japanese mobile phone carrier actually drops price on a flagship iphone to spur sales.
>Banks down on overprotective fed still eyeing interest hikes for next year. Millennials generally scared of loans
>Chinese, Indian and Russian investment huge in the U.S. right now. Mostly housing: taxes on property companies still low since Reagan.
>Nikkei still generally mirroring western indices
Depending on whether or not drumpf can shut his god damn mouth we may be in for quite a ride. If you've got money it's a good time to hold firm on companies that are sure to rebound. If you're a cryptocuck you're in for one hell of a ride.

[Anonymous No.12006661]

There will be rallies before the bear market starts. Stay calm and HODL boys.

[Anonymous No.12006678]

Well there goes my 401k

[Anonymous No.12006728]

>>12006678
If you're looking at only what is dropping off you're not looking at the long term. ARE YOUR STOCKS BUILT TO LAST? You didn't invest in small R&D or health did you? You should realize by now that health is the most prone to restructuring. followed by R&D which is generally super shallow unless they get a product and have the power to turn around and sell it. Next up (6-9 months) Tech stocks tank. I would get the fuck out of netflix and facebook because they're not on solid footing in the short term

[Anonymous No.12006866]

>>12006659
Oh and also closing the market on the 5th may actually be 5D chess.
Giving the market time to stabilize after a drop like this may be the master stroke of this presidency strangely enough. You can see trump backpedaling on China with the 90 day truce. If China preempts U.S. Markets with more tarrifs despite their promise then it's over and I'm leaving this country. Trump pivoting to the back foot may be the death knell of the U.S. economy and many markets of our allies. Xi doesn't have the balls though.

[Anonymous No.12007001]

>>12002122
>reason behind the 13 pump
Was chinks laundering money and an insolvent exchange desperately pumping price to make back its losses. Wouldn't have gone nearly as far in a crypto market as efficient and institutional as the one we are in now.

Crypto has never existed in a recession (barring the first year when it wasn't even traded) and has been a plaything of wealthy side money and enthusiasts during one of the longest expansions in market history.

[Anonymous No.12007023]

>>12006866
>If China preempts U.S. Markets with more tarrifs despite their promise then it's over and I'm leaving this country.
Where will you go?

[Anonymous No.12007088]

>>12007023
Become a shepard in northern scotland.
Or into the Arizona desert.

[Anonymous No.12007099]

>>12001906
It's buy time for me folks. See you in a decade.

[Anonymous No.12007101]

>>12002899
>>12005959
>>12005575
Yes a recession is coming, in no less than 9 months from 2y10y inversion, and more than that on average. Nobody uses the 3y5y.

>>12003685
What you're saying doesn't in anyway counter what I'm saying, it's more of an explanation.

[Anonymous No.12007119]

Not a full inversion.

Continue on your shift at Sbarro kid.

[Anonymous No.12007309]

>>12001906
>>12002899
>>12005575
>>12005959

[Anonymous No.12007330]

It means sell your damn stocks

[Anonymous No.12007357]

If everyone on /biz/ thinks one thing the opposite will happen. Add in this board is 72% poor doomers, and you can see recession is never happening until they least expect it.

[Anonymous No.12007605]

FYI

OP pic is the best predictor for recessions

Take a look at 10Y vs 3M TBonds
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10Y3M