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>"So weathers getting pretty rough... i heard they say its global warming!"

>> No.11848474
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>>11848453

>> No.11848585

>>11848453
don't be stupid. only god and his son jesus can change the weather

>> No.11848614
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>>11848453
global warmings isnt real my sir

>> No.11848666

>>11848614

Global warming is real but it's a natural cycle.

>> No.11848740

>>11848666
Who gives a fuck. After 30 fucking years literally no one can present a viable solution. Warming, not warming, our fault, their fault, conspiracy , literally none of it matters. If global warming is right then its just going to happen. If its not then its not. Just two people throwing rocks at each other.

>> No.11848768

>>11848740
And get the fuck off biz with this political shit.

>> No.11848777

>>11848740
This is literally the exact reaction astroturf psyops campaigns are supposed to encourage.
Congrats on walking into it face first.

>> No.11848796

>>11848777
Ok thanks. Try not to step on your dick on the way out.

>> No.11848802

>>11848666
Are you seriously? Read a book you moron. LIterally every scientisit on the planet agrees that this is the number #1 threat facing our species.

>> No.11848811

>>11848802
have you ever read this book called "the bible"? doesn't say anything in there about no global warmings

>> No.11848825

>>11848802

Humans have some effect on it but we have natural cooling and warming cycles. The only thing I don't get is the solar minimum meme conservatives like to spout.

>> No.11848836

>>11848453
>the news said its a waste of time to make any personal changes, only a politician can solve global warming

>> No.11848840

>>11848666
Can somebody explain what people have to gain by denying involvement in climate change?
Why deny it altogether?
Why come up with this weird half ass compromise where "Global warming is real, but it's not our fault."
Like, if the idea is that human involvement in global warming is some kind jew conspiracy, what is the end game? What kind of advantage does that story secure? How are you subverting it with the "natural cycle" middleground?

I just don't understand why it is such a common belief.
Do people just have some weird reason for refusing to accept human involvement at all costs, that I just don't understand?
They are so militant about giving up the final straw that yes, it is, in fact, the product of human industry.
Are they just unable to admit fault?

>> No.11848842

>>11848825

Oh and we should be far more concerned about the current extinction event of all animal life. Global warming is important too, but currently toxicity and pollution will destroy us even before we suffer from weather effects.

>> No.11848843

>>11848802
It could be both at the same time, dumbfuck

>> No.11848854

>>11848840
the jew liberal media wants us to beleive in global warmings so people can think we can change weather. only god can change the weather and by believing in global warmings is like you believe humans are god thus subverting religion and bring the fall of our civilization

>> No.11848856

>>11848666
Its being sped up by us by hundreds to thousands of years sooner. And the last time it happened the continent of africa was created and the ice age destroyed most life on earth.

>> No.11848858

>>11848840
The Earth has had warming and cooling cycles long before humans. Maybe we are contributing to warming, maybe it would have happened regardless. How much is due to humans, how much isn't?

At no point in Earth's history has the temperature remained static.

>> No.11848871

>>11848843

That's basically what is happening. We are warming from both but the human intervention aspect is really exaggerated. And if it weren't, the companies literally have a death wish in 20-30 years anyway. Either way, we have several issues going on right now with our environment and ecosystem that no one seems to be fixing nor are any solutions being put forward. By 2100 your grandchildren will have a worse quality of life than you would have had if it doesn't get worked on by then.

>> No.11848873

>>11848740
No the science is in and has been for decades. Global warming is real and we are making it happen super fast because businesses around the world are allowed to destroy the environment for profit.

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>>11848858
>At no point in Earth's history has the temperature remained static.

nigga this shit ain't natural

>> No.11848882

>>11848854
Do you really believe what you are typing?
I really have nothing to say to your weird schizophrenic worldview. You sound like my friend Cody when he doesn't take his meds for a couple weeks and hears Jesus talk to him through his radio.

>>11848858
I understand that the Earth has natural warming and cooling cycles but what is the point of willfully denying that humans are upsetting that balancing and accelerating the warming cycle by introducing chemicals into the atmosphere and reducing tree acreage via industry? Why is it so hard to recognize the impact that an obviously planet-dominating species with advanced technology has on the ecosystem?

>> No.11848894

>>11848873
Im not denying anything. Im saying flat out that you dont have a solution that is politically and econimically viable.

>> No.11848918

>>11848882
The greatest troll I learned in my 13 years of 4chan, it's not link switching or dance the dinosaur or whatever flavor of the week happens. It's the ability for posters to construct an entire persona for the sake of taking a contrarian viewpoints for no reason other than to rock the boat for fun. It's not worth arguing with them. This is 4chan's greatest pleasure.

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>> No.11848922

Look boyos, either human industry will find a way or the human race deserves to suffer a mass extinction event. Either way, the Earth is gonna be just fine.

>> No.11848929

>>11848922
Until the sun engulfs us

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>> No.11848954

>>11848935
Nice 100 year chart. How old is Earth again?

>> No.11848966

>>11848802
Those scientists are bullshit. Academia is bullshit. All controlled and they know if they speak against the narrative they will lose their jobs and funding. Only book I need is the bible.

>> No.11848989

>>11848894
Actually there are solutions tgat noone wants to adopt because it is more profitable to just continue using oil and non renewables. We can beild co2 filters already and clean the atmosphere. We switch to renewable energy like solar panels on every home and wind power on the ocean and empty fields. Neuclear reactors are a great option if people could be trusted to not cause meltdowns. If we manage co2 concentrations in the air and stopped unsustainable practices we could avoid a mass extonction event and prevent another ice age.

>> No.11849002

>>11848954
Its to show the increases in co2 concentrations in tge atmosphere are directly linked to higher average temp.

>> No.11849028

The biggest problem is that there are too many people on earth. Blame china and india and the islamic countries. Fix that without a war or mass extinction event and everything else fixes itself too.

>> No.11849044

>>11849002
Correlation that may or may not imply causation? Do you have a similar chart that goes back further, maybe a few million years?

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>>11849028
>blame literally any country that isn't the US
Gee I wonder who could be behind this post?

>> No.11849064

>>11848954
>>11849044
you are part of the problem

>> No.11849065

>>11848453
how come normies can repeat how are you over a course of a day 10000 days in a row but get mad at a weather talk?

>> No.11849072

>>11848840
It became a political issue.

>> No.11849082

>>11848453
Kek

>> No.11849103

>>11848873
Stop being a fag and baiting and actually look into the sources of the manmade global warming denying tidbits you niggers parrot
You will find that all of them are garbage, unless you are the kind of person who would believe Craig Wright is Satoshi

>> No.11849114

>>11849064
You are an NPC. Question your programming. Demand evidence.

>> No.11849134

>>11849044
>Do you have a similar chart that goes back further, maybe a few million years?

People have only been collecting accurate data on temp and co2 concentrations for the past approximately 100 years. You already know a million year chart doesn't exist. Even if we could go back and estimate what the data would hace looked like back then you'd poke holes in the indirect data.

>Correlation that may or may not imply causation?

Except that since the industrial revolution world population has gone parabolic as has the use of oil around the world. Petrol that converts to co2 in the atmosphere when burned. Coincidences that remain accurate for 100 years are rarely coincidences. If you find data that contradicts a correlation of co2 concentrations and average temp for 100 years feel free to present that.

>> No.11849144

>>11848989
My sweet summer child. No solution that is politically and economically viable. Dont forget that most of the planets population doesnt have your easy upbringing. They are just trying to live and get by. The shit you are talking about is just low hanging fruit. How are you going you going to replace concrete?

>> No.11849173

>>11849144
You don't need to fix everything fag. We just need to live sustainably. Who cares if a few chinks or pajeets or sand niggers starve because they can't use oil. World population is the real enemy. You fix what you can and screw big oil and big agriculture because they are destroying the planet that your grandkids will hate.

>> No.11849183

>>11849114
People who fall for the "NPC" meme are the real NPCs.

You just let ideas from 4chan fall into your head and spit them out without critically thinking. You don't even have your own personality. You are just another mindless "Anon" drone vomiting flavor-of-the-week memes.

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>"It sure seems like a coincidence to me! A salmonella outbreak right before Thanksgiving? Ha, no thanks!"

>> No.11849281

>>11848453
not /biz/-related, sorry, kek

>> No.11849297

>>11849173
Poor people around the planet live much more sustainably than you. Why dont you join them?

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536 Was a Garbage Year for Mankind (So Give 2018 a Break)

>In A.D. 536, a mysterious fog swept over the continent, veiling the sun in a blue haze and casting Europe, the Middle East and parts of Asia into darkness 24 hours a day, for 18 months.

>Falling temperatures ushered in the coldest decade of the past 2,000 years, crops failed from Ireland to China, and famine ran rampant.

>According to the new study, a massive volcanic eruption in Iceland directly preceded the beginning of Europe's darkest days.

>Those who endured the long, cold night faced even harsher times in the years to come; in A.D. 541, an outbreak of bubonic plague known as Justinian's Plague scythed through the Mediterranean, killing up to 100 million people.

https://www.livescience.com/64132-worst-year-ever-536.html

>> No.11849376

>>11849183
Shhh don't tell them, it's funnier that way.

>> No.11849400

>>11848840
(((Climate change))) end goal is to create a global government that will introduce carbon taxes. Hint: breathing produces carbon dioxide too, so you'd be taxed for being allowed to live.

>> No.11849445

>>11849400
Trees need co2 to live doofus. A carbon tax only applies to countries / corporations which account for most of the co2 emmissions. It will encourage them to use renewable energy sources.

>> No.11849510

>>11848453
The real NPC opinion is the one that doesn't require you to change your behavior. If you don't believe because you don't want to change: NPC. If you do believe and still don't change: NPC.

There's some philosophical saying that when presented with a better argument only a free man can change their mind.

>> No.11849537

>>11848453

Hey Capitalist! No one won't buy your shit when everyone is dead, ya dumb fucks.

>> No.11849553

>every scientist agrees that global warming is a serious issue caused by humans
>biz let’s themselves get convinced it’s not by some idiots in politics getting paid by companies who pollute the environment. Literally destroying the planet for their own personal gain.
Literally have to be so cucked to buy into the propaganda by big oil companies. Climate change deniers are the ultimate NPCs. Literally cucking yourselves so some faggots can line their own pockets with money.
>b-but no, I’m smarter than all those scientists
Kill yourselves so you can stop hurting civilization
>I-it’s just natural e-earth cycles bro!!
You are actually too retarded to understand basic science and interpret basic data, congrats
>n-n-no I’m right and I’m smart
You know you aren’t smart, it’s why you’re a failure. Let the smart people figure out what’s causing issues and listen to them. It’s the best thing you can do for yourself.

>> No.11849562

>>11849553
>smartest scientists in the world agree we caused the global warming
If they're so smart why dont they fix it?

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>>11849562
Damn. Climate change believers just got BTFO'd.

>> No.11849591

>>11849562
Imagine being this retarded.
They can’t fix it because they aren’t the ones polluting the environment. The only way to fix it is to convince others to stop fucking polluting

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>>11848666
Satan, for once, is telling the truth.

>> No.11849608

>>11848802

Wow, 40 government employees are all the scientists we have left now?

>> No.11849614

>>11849553
>believe in what you're told, you cucks

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>>11848453

Rich people are fucking stupid.

>> No.11849627

Brainlet here. Why is global warming a bad thing? Sure we may lose some land mass to rising seas but we also gain usable land to the receding Arctic's.

>> No.11849641

>>11849591
You have convinced me. I accept Climate Change into my heart. I will reduce my consuming and recycle more.

>> No.11849660

>>11849627

People like you need to die. Seriously. Just kill yourself.

>> No.11849667

>>11849627
Do you want hundred millions of africans moving to your country, bro?

>> No.11849670

>>11848989
If you haven't already, look into molten salt thorium reactors. Big picture - locally produced energy independence - carbon neutral liquid fuel generation - heat for industrial smelting op - carbon capture - desalination. US developed tech in the 70s but scuttled program in favor of bomb fuel cycle. China, India, and others are moving forward. Game changing.

>> No.11849675

>>11849660
Pretty sure thats been your plan all along

>> No.11849689

>>11849627
Nature on land will be able to deal with it more or less.

The two big problems are that land in SE-asia will be flooded or otherwise unusable for agriculture, creating a mass exodus with the following social tensions and the real fuck up of our generation, the acidification of the oceans. If there are no coralls and other animals which use calciferous molecules left it's gonna get fucking ugly as the whole food-web will be destabilized

>> No.11849690

>>11849670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAiHtrWHxK0

>> No.11849723

The fact that people can unironcially say that mankind’s net pollution (which in its sum, is virtually inconceivable in scope) has absolutely no effect on the globe or its temperature or natura cycles is mind-boggling. It’s time to stop being retarded.

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>>11849675

Nah. The chances of you dying are pretty high.

>> No.11849749

>>11849670
also https://liquidfluoridethoriumreactor.glerner.com/2012-heat-for-industrial-use-from-lftrs/

>> No.11849788

>>11849729
White males will rule the wastelands. You will be my chattel.

>> No.11850157

>>11848840
Provide a single proof that humans contribute to global warming. I'll wait.

>> No.11850205

The absolute state of you fucking idiots.

Imagine not believing the most studied subject in human history.

We know for certain C02 in the atmosphere causes the earth to warm.

We know we are emitting huge amounts of C02.

You are all proof humans deserve to go extinct.

Imagine thinking you're edgy because you choose not to believe the most well informed experts.

Absolute state of you dribbling retards.

>> No.11850211 [DELETED] 

>>11850157
Provide a single completely irrefutable fact besides "i think therefore i am". Come on ill wait.

>> No.11850220

>>11850157
Provide a single completely irrefutable fact about the real world besides "i think therefore i am". Come on, i'll wait.

>> No.11850234

>>11850220
Not an argument

>> No.11850238

>>11848802
Kek
Nice larp tho

>> No.11850263

>>11848802
Fucking moron, Scientist? Like algore who warned everything will be submerged by 2010? I remembered paying for that bullshit so that I can watch that documentary as a child and literally nothing he said FUCKING HAPPENED. So fuck you, I won't listen to you idiots fearmongering to get money.

And most REPUTABLE Scientist, which are also non partisan are also been saying that meme is a fucking exaggerated to scrap more money too people. I remembered even reading that meme in Time magazine at 1990s saying the same bullshit.

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>>11850205
this

> experts all over the globe, beyond all different cultures and political agendas, even opposing ones, know climate change is a fact

> hurr durr some guy on youtube said it's all scam haha wake the fuck up you sheep! my life is miserable and I need every last shred of misinformation to feel important and superior to others.

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im not going to lie i only made this thread to fuck a few people off but its somehow become a big everyone get fucked off at each other thread

>> No.11850318

>>11850205
>You are all proof humans deserve to go extinct.
>implying it's a bad thing

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>the science is settled do not question it

>> No.11850357

>>11848874
>data only goes back 800,000 years
CO2 rates were higher than today when dinosaurs were running around and they lived just fine.

>> No.11850368

>>11848614
>>11848666
>>11848740

it's always funny when people on 4chan don't realize they're the biggest NPCs.

>> No.11850377

>>11849064
No that would be the Chinese, Indians and projected 4bn Africans by 2100. Curtail the rapacious growth/industrialization of the third world (which don't care about their environment anyway) and you drastically reduce carbon and methane output.
You liberals want Global Warming to be White people's fault but the solution is unironically a return to imperialism.

>> No.11850381

>>11850368

It's impossible to be more NPC than a denier

>> No.11850398

>>11849591
Why don't dose brainboys invent a machine wot takes in CO2 an' spits out Oxygen? Dey could even make it solar powered! Dat way when humans increase our CO2 output by industrializing, we just make more of dees magic machines and spread 'em all over the place.

>> No.11850403

>>11850398

It's called a tree

>> No.11850409

>>11849667
That's what machine guns/border wall/radiation is for.

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>>11850403

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>>11850329
>this oil company said it’s not real stop questioning it

>> No.11850505

>>11848453
Welcome to /biz/ - Business & Finance: This board is for the discussion of topics related to business, economics, financial markets, securities, currencies (including cryptocurrencies), commodities, etc -- as well as topics relating to starting and running a business.

>> No.11850519

>>11850263
extreme climate events are predicted to become more frequent. Droughts in certain regions are going to become common and more severe (climate migrants huzzah!). All this needs to be considered with the more significant effects of el nino climate cycles (which also create more or less extreme weather events depending on the part of the cycle).

It feels like everyone forgets about how we were fucking up the ozone with CFC's and then we stopped using them in so much manufacturing shit and the ozone gradually healed. This is just another way in which our technology is creating an environmental problem we must use technology to solve.

>> No.11850524

>>11850505
agreed. 95% of the shitcoin threads and pink wojaks are much better.

>> No.11850804

>>11850480
>TV said its real stop questioning it.

>> No.11850925

>>11850329
science actually is the opposite and thats why the evidence it provides its so powerful, because for one fag that claims that X therefore Y there are thousands other fags willing to destroy his claim via scientific methodology

Idiot

>> No.11851146

>>11848802

Nope biggest threat is rapidly declining sperm counts