/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.11838063]

>Puts patents in Your global money
>Will have the capacity to lord over the global economic infrastructure when SV succeedes
I consider SV to be superior, but how isn't this shit a dealbreaker.

[Anonymous No.11838068]

>the apple of crypto

[Anonymous No.11838079]

Defensive patents. If He didnt have the patents mastercard would

[Anonymous No.11838080]

>>11838063
It won't matter and you won't have a choice. Don't like it? Stiff.

[Anonymous No.11838082]

> many blocks behind
> smallest POW
> lowest price
> least community support
> one red pilled goy running the show

Place your bets, gents.

[Anonymous No.11838092]

>>11838082
do you listen to your own favourit music or do you follow the radio charts?

[Anonymous No.11838100]

>>11838092
I read what the data tells me goy. Do you hate money?

[Anonymous No.11838105]

>>11838082
Most importantly almost no services accpeting it besides exchanges. It basically has no infrastructure.

[Anonymous No.11838115]

>>11838080
That's the only response I've got so far. Still hostile.

[Anonymous No.11838135]

>>11838079
Bitcoin core didn't need defensive patents so far. Don't think they are necessary.

[Anonymous No.11838149]

i can't wait this faggot to sell his last btc and his sugar daddy to leave him for roger so he's completely BTFO.

[Anonymous No.11838153]

>>11838063
sage this guy is a waste of space. if you fell for SV you are an idiot. SV has as much to do with Satoshi's actual vision as the time machine ride at the end of idiocracy had to do with actual history.

[Anonymous No.11838176]

>>11838153
>muh pop-culture reference
soi extreme

[Anonymous No.11838220]

>>11838080
kek

[Anonymous No.11838237]

>>11838176
> s'oy memes
You are falling to the dark side already young padawan. Soon craig will be your master.

[Anonymous No.11838251]

>>11838176
>>11838237
onions

[Anonymous No.11838252]

>>11838063
We will kill it by boycotting his shit, I dont care anymore, this is getting personal

[Anonymous No.11838256]

>>11838251
fuck 4chan and its stupid CENTRALIZED WORDFILTERS that are ANTI-POSTER

I am forking off to 4channel CASH SV IOU that is the REAL 4CHAN

if you dont like it...
STIFF

[Anonymous No.11838264]

>>11838252
heh, nothin personnel anon

[Anonymous No.11838267]

>>11838256
THAT'S GENIUS!
DDOS 4CHAN SO'I UNTIL THEY GIVE YOU THE DOMAIN NAME!

[Anonymous No.11838270]

>>11838252
he made it personal from the get go anon
i'm at the point where i don't give a fuck about technology and philosophy anymore i just want him to suffer and be humiliated.

[Anonymous No.11838271]

>>11838063
I consider this man a raging insecure faggot

[Anonymous No.11838281]

>>11838267
4chan MOOTS VISION incoming.

[Anonymous No.11838286]

>>11838270

Exactly, or crowdsource a bounty? A contract on BCH-layer?

[Anonymous No.11838301]

>>11838270
Blockchain Fatwa FTW

[greenpill-freenode !TuLip3ssUE No.11838310]

>>11838063

You don't even know what a patent is. Piss off.

[Anonymous No.11838312]

>>11838281
AND IF THEY RESIST YOUR DDOS YOU CAN OFFER THEM A TRUCE, YOU WILL STOP HAMMERING THEM WITH YOUR MIGHTY 2400BPS MODEM IF THEY ABANDON THE 4CHAN NAME AND YOU BOTH GO YOUR SEPARATE WAYS ON THE NEW SITES!

[Anonymous No.11838318]

>>11838270
I'm still not sure if SV will win or not
But I can say that I have finally realized this:

If SV wins, Bitcoin the memetic-energy-spirit entity is dead.
Her body was taken
But her soul is with us.

If SV wins,
Bitcoin dies.

[Anonymous No.11838326]

>>11838063
I consider NANO to be superior. Look how that's been going. Market isn't always rational.
Or in your case, the market isn't that fucking crazy yet.

[Anonymous No.11838337]

So... SV is actually Bitcoin Soy_ Version

[Anonymous No.11838338]

>>11838318
are you gay?
how exactly is BAB (BCHABC) bitcoin???
go play minecraft you fucking kid

[Anonymous No.11838348]

>>11838338
Bitcoin is more than just the code.
It is the spirit that keeps her alive.
She is in pain.
As am I.

[Anonymous No.11838350]

>>11838337
Someone needs to meme this fucking hard, the `onions thing is exactly what triggers sad fucks like SV supporters. It would fucking enrage them.

[Anonymous No.11838357]

>>11838312
Baste.

[Anonymous No.11838362]

>>11838252
>we
biz is pro Craig. kys

[Anonymous No.11838363]

>>11838348
believing abc propaganda and not realising that bitcoin 0.1 version is the most bitcoin ever possible sure is painful

[Anonymous No.11838371]

>>11838310
Explain then.

[Anonymous No.11838373]

>>11838362
Biz is not, how can you defend this guy?

[Anonymous No.11838375]

>>11838363
the chain with the most hash in the bitcoin
it is not abc , it is not sv , it is BTC

[Anonymous No.11838386]

>>11838375
have fun holding segwit coin in 2019 much money for you sir ;)

[Anonymous No.11838388]

>>11838363
Even if SV is technically correct,
that does not change what they have done to her soul.
There is no coming back from it.

[Anonymous No.11838389]

>>11838362
maybe you and 5 other fags

[Anonymous No.11838394]

>>11838375
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

[Anonymous No.11838395]

>>11838386
well that is the rule
technically if SV or ABC offer better value, miners will flow to them, and if their ash is bigger than BTC core then, they are the real bitcoin

[Anonymous No.11838401]

>>11838375
nakamoto consensus is not over until competing chains die

[Anonymous No.11838405]

>>11838394
It does if you've got more feathers than the other chickens.
Or..
Something...

[Anonymous No.11838414]

>>11838401
ooo please, you can have whatever you want and support it.
But you cannot claim the name if you are the minority chain.

[Anonymous No.11838416]

>>11838388
They're fucking *NOT* technically correct.
Look at >>11838337 this is the result of their technical ineptitude.
They are fucking incompetent. All the idiotic accusations coretards made against BCH'ers are actually fairly directed at BSV'ers.They honestly really do think they can just fix everything by raising the blocksize, it's worse even because they are taking that position on a codebase core sabotaged so that would never work, while ABC are doing the necessary work to remove that sabotage and scale properly on chain.

[Anonymous No.11838427]

>>11838416
That was just their first test.
I'm willing to assume they have the capacity to remove whatever bottlenecks they run into.

[Anonymous No.11838428]

>>11838362
only you and other 5 paid shills.
kys nigger

[Anonymous No.11838435]

>>11838416
>thinks hes smarter than a freakin csw with billions, go give him a tweet maybe you can help him for a few millions if you are soooo clever kiddo

[Anonymous No.11838458]

>>11838427
That's exactly what ABC was fucking doing with CTOR, but Bitcoin S`o`y forked off with a fucking divergent ruleset because it's not about scaling or the right choice, it's about power and control and leverage, and that's fucking it.
They made a play and they fucking failed, because they're stupid cunts. Now they don't want to suck it up so they're pulling idiotic stuff like offering a truce where the other side gives them what they wanted all along.
Not going to happen, suck it up

[Anonymous No.11838468]

>>11838435
That stupid bitch needed a bailout from abject failure in 2015. He larps like he knows what he's doing, but the truth is he has an endless wallet of NOTHING BUT BLUFFS.
The real truth about Craig S'o'y Wright is pic fucking related.

[Anonymous No.11838485]

>>11838468
i wonder, with all this knowledge you have about coins and other people, you truly must be able to make millions in a few months , arent you anon?
so why are you here? maybe its all larp you think its turstworthy information? could it be?

[Anonymous No.11838495]

>>11838063
>still believing in dense narcissist boomers and their retardation
>DAT SATOSHI VISION
Do you really believe it was Satoshis vision to fill this con's pocket? You retards will pay a steep price and I am looking forward to see you fail.
I remember when these freaks were telling me about Bitcoin private's moon.
I told them they can be happy if it even stays above 20,-.
Just looked at it 1,50 LELELELEELELELELEL JUST

[Anonymous No.11838504]

>>11838468
and i dont give a ratsass if CSW is a larper on benefits or the next king of saudi arabia, the fact is TWO chains are currently mining BTC and BCH and dump THE BTC in order to keep going so I wont touch BTC with a fucking stick

[Anonymous No.11838519]

>>11838458
>>11838468
That wolf quote doesnt mean what you named it to mean

[Anonymous No.11838521]

>>11838485
Because this is one of the only places you can actually discuss issues purely on their merits without being attacked politically or by dumb cunts trying to apply leverage outside the actual debates under discussion on the internet. Here I am noone, and that is all I need to be in order to make the truth clear for anyone who cares only what it is and not who I am. Because they are the only people whose perspectives matter. My net worth, how much money I'm making on this trade, all of that, none of that matters and is not your fucking business.
You don't like it? STIFF

[Anonymous No.11838526]

>>11838504
That's one of the very few things I would not disagree with you on. I won't be touching BTC ever, it is a steaming pile of shit as accurately described in >>11838394

[Anonymous No.11838582]

>>11838458
this craig boombot homo is a disgusting display of retardation..is that money on his head contract true?

[Anonymous No.11838590]

>>11838582
will pitch in

[Anonymous No.11838591]

>>11838414
there's no time limit on consensus
btc and bch can't coexist, one will die
and it will be the one with a 1mb adoption cap

[Anonymous No.11838598]

>>11838582
I don't know, my policy on the darker side of the market is I don't even make contact with it at all, so I haven't taken time out to verify. It wouldn't surprise me or be out of character for some of the people involved on that side of the spectrum however.

[Anonymous No.11838614]

>>11838590
>>11838598
do people actually believe he is satoshi?

[Anonymous No.11838639]

>>11838614
The only person of reasonable intelligence that I actually am convinced honestly thinks he's Satoshi is Ryan X Charles. And even he allows that it might not actually be true.
My theory on Gavin is that either A) he was directly conned with a spiked version of the software or B) he is well aware this sucker is not Satoshi, but unlike with the example of Dorian Nakamoto, this idiot bought it on himself so he sees it as a convenient burden to lay at the feet of someone who come what may is responsible for the claim, rather than someone who was pinned with it from an idiot reporter who wanted a story and didn't care what the facts were.

[Anonymous No.11838643]

>>11838591
there is a clear malicious aggressor, and that is the SV
SV could sabotage the netwrok, survival of the fittest
But if that is what satoshi envisioned, he can go to hell

[Anonymous No.11838652]

>>11838643
sv was introducing no contentious changes
dsv and ctor are shit
and abc just implemented checkpoints every 10min
fucking ridiculous kys

[Anonymous No.11838661]

>>11838652
CTOR will allow 0 confirms, and will allow instant transactions, very very useful
ABC have to do something to protect the chain, they will fight, and they are in the right.

[Anonymous No.11838664]

>>11838350
>>11838337
I agree, if someone can come up with a suitably viral and triggering Bitcoin SV S'oy Version meme image I will donate.

[Anonymous No.11838666]

>>11838614
No, some believe he had a some part of the original conception but he has proven that he is not since satoshis wallets are untouched even as we speak.

He would have moved funds just to make a point or to threaten anyone opposing him. He is currently financing the war with other funds,

[Anonymous No.11838672]

>>11838652
128mb block limit while we all knew it couldn't be handled was a contentious change.
DSV is very useful for instant transactions amongst other things
CTOR is necessary for the network to actually handle the higher block limits everyone wants
Checkpointing against deep re-orgs are in every 110 minutes, not every ten minutes, but nice try and displaying to everyone just how fucking ignorant you are.

[Anonymous No.11838683]

>>11838661
ctor is antithetical to competition and a miner subsidy
0 conf does not require additional protocol changes
the entire ABC roadmap is to make WHC
they will loose

>>11838672
DSV is blockstream code. ctpr is not necessary
meant to say 10 blocks

[Anonymous No.11838713]

>>11838683
> ctor is antithetical to competition and a miner subsidy
This is bullshit, increasing the efficiency of block propagation isn't a subsidy anymore than your h264 decoder chip is a subsidy to your tranny porn habit. This would be stupid even if the network could actually handle 128mb blocks, but in context that it fucking can't, it's beyond retarded and outright CSW levels of meme idiocy.
> 0 conf does not require additional protocol changes
Pre DSV 0 conf was a higher risk op than post DSV 0 conf with miner forfeit op. Simple mathematical fact.
> the entire ABC roadmap is to make WHC
Bullshit idiotic conspiracy theory. PROVE IT or shut the fuck up you useless cunt.
> they will loose
They already fuckin won you stupid nigger.
> DSV is blockstream code
This fuckin meme, pic related. Fuck yourself.
> ctpr is not necessary
We don't want fucking necessary, we want optimal. And your shitty chain has proven that it IS IN FACT NECESSARY as illustrated by the graph in >>11838337

[Anonymous No.11838721]

>>11838683
ok then fork, but no SV wants to attack, they have produced no block explorer no nothing
it is clear to everybody and they dog that Craig is full of shit

[Anonymous No.11838729]

>>11838713
>Block limits
>Blockstream code
>centralized arbitrary block validation every 10 blocks
you've already lost

[Anonymous No.11838731]

>>11838639
>>11838666
appreciated, that muh I won't move funds like I said yesterday and I want to be left alone says it all.
It's like that mormon episode from SP.

[Anonymous No.11838736]

>>11838729
> ignoring material reality and stating abject bullshit.
Who gives a fuck what you think? Double down on SV, I still have shit to dump on you, by all means, pump it a little harder bitch.

[Anonymous No.11838742]

>>11838153
>>11838237
>>11838267
>>11838312
I see these retarded pics everyday in a different threads. Guess the ABCucks shilling is real. How much does Roger pay you?

[Anonymous No.11838746]

>>11838736
do it faggot, no one will remember ABC in a year.

[Anonymous No.11838754]

>>11838742
Less than Adam pays you.

[Anonymous No.11838759]

>>11838318
>leddit spacing
>anime
>muh original bitcoin
>not a single argument
My scotch has more skin in the game than you, faggot.

[Anonymous No.11838760]

>>11838746
I remember those apes shilling for bitcoin private at 60 usd.

[Anonymous No.11838764]

Honestly SV has a cooler logo than ABC.
And that's what truly matters.

[Anonymous No.11838769]

>>11838754
>nchain is blockstream
meanwhile DSV is line for line blockstream code.
good narrative, keep it up

[Anonymous No.11838777]

>>11838754
>posting random pic that has nothing to do with the text
Sorry, Rajeesh, you tried, try again later.

[Anonymous No.11838795]

>>11838777
> I can't actually understand that core are the people who admit to using shill brigades.
Well of course you can't, you're a fucking retard after all.

[Anonymous No.11838814]

>>11838769
Even his royal beardness one meg greg doesn't make that claim fuckhead.
https://archive.is/8XQCB
For the record, here's something that is actually line by line plagiarism in code, your idol's copy of fucking hello world
https://toshitimes.com/craig-wright-proves-he-can-code-by-copy-pasting-hello-world-program/
Perhaps this will assist you in making the distinction.

[Anonymous No.11838815]

>>11838795
How is the core has anything to do with BCHSV vs ABC hashwar? Did you even know what is the difference between three of them?

[Anonymous No.11838816]

>>11838777
Checked

>>11838759
Scotch is fine
If SV wins as a separate token
Meaning that BOTH BTC and BCH must die
then what I said is true. and will come to pass.

Of course it doesn't matter.
But it does.

[Anonymous No.11838832]

>>11838815
> pretending core and SV have nothing to do with each other in context of >>11838713
wew lad, glow in the dark detected.

[Anonymous No.11838836]

>>11838814
kys you shill
everytime you post you do the opposite of what you intend
>If I might be so bold as to point out: Since OP_DSV is almost line by line equivalent to CHECKSIGFROMSTACKVERIFY published in the elements sidechain in May 2015, if anyone had any direct IPR on this operation it would be Blockstream.

[Anonymous No.11838841]

>>11838836
> almost is equal to equal
kys indeed.

[Anonymous No.11838846]

>>11838832
this is your narrative

greg emailed craig so craig is working for blockstream.
meanwhile ABC implements DSV which is blockstream code.

surely you can do better

[Anonymous No.11838871]

>>11838832
So if core dev offered assistance to CSW now they are working together?
For example, if I phone to jpmorgan or apple or to whatever corp I want - I'm going to suddenly work with them? Do you honestly want to use such a dumb argument, Rajeesh?

[Anonymous No.11838910]

>>11838846
just quietly, you're full of shit.
https://reviews.bitcoinabc.org/source/bitcoin-abc/change/master/src/script/interpreter.cpp;9ba4bfca513d6386ee3d313b15bdd4584da7633d
https://github.com/ElementsProject/elements/commit/c35693257ca59b80659cfc4a965311f028c2d751#diff-be2905e2f5218ecdbe4e55637dac75f3R1328
If you think that's the same code, you can't code your way out of fizzbuzz.
Meanwhile, Greg and Craig are clearly working together, so.. methinks the lady doth protest too much the way you jumped on that, can't have your subversion attempt being so clearly and obviously betrayed.

[Anonymous No.11838927]

>>11838846
>>11838871
just fucking lol.

[Anonymous No.11838934]

>>11838910
>>11838836
Your boy maxwell disagrees

[Anonymous No.11838955]

>>11838927
>node subsidies
>block limits
>malleability fix
>lightning network
Blockstream


>node subsidies
>block limits
>malleability fix
>arbitrary centralized block validation every 10 blocks
>WHC
ABC another blockstream company

[Anonymous No.11838960]

>>11838934
You mean the same guy who sabotaged BTC and handed it over to the state? Remind me again why I consider anything he says of any value at all other than an indication it is idiotic?
He's not my "boy". I despise him more than any other figure outside tmsr.

[Anonymous No.11839099]

>>11838960
Is... Is that quote for real?
Fuck me, have the cashies been right all along?

[Anonymous No.11839129]

>>11839099
yes anon that's the game keep up, coretards are the marks and have been for at least a year.

[Anonymous No.11839220]

>>11838960
Satoshi makes claim that 1mb blocks are enough to btfo visa transactional speeds in april 2009. In 2017 it becomes aparent that 1 mb blocks are not big enough to scale to visa. Satoshi btfo

[Anonymous No.11839247]

>>11839220
Yeah nah gitfukt corecuck.

[Anonymous No.11839321]

>>11839247
86400 seconds in a day. 100 million/86400 = 1157.41 tps at 18 dollars per 100 million transactions. How can bch sv scale to 1157.41 tps at under $18 per 100 million transactions per day?

[Anonymous No.11839344]

Anyone has any ideas how Patents will work post SV flip penning?

[Anonymous No.11839357]

>>11839321
.. ? What exactly is the question there? Are you implying that $18 dollars is too high a price to pay in bandwidth for 1154tx/sec or.. ? I'm not sure where you're going with that.

[Anonymous No.11839365]

>>11839220
When 0.1.0 was released there was no block size cap you brainlet

[Anonymous No.11839398]

>>11838105
Lol wtf is wrong with you. Most services allready switched to SV.
ABC is totally fucked.

[Anonymous No.11839414]

>>11839398
We're reaching meme levels of inaccuracy that sholdn't even be possible..

[Anonymous No.11839416]

>>11839357
Im implying that in order for bch sv to beat visa in terms of scalability is has to be able to make 100 million transactions per day and cost less than $18 to miners while avoiding centralization. How is that even possible.

[Anonymous No.11839422]

>>11839398
ABC build in 10 block checkpoint centralisation. No sane person is still supporting them.

[Anonymous No.11839434]

>>11839416
I assume you mean, like, outside the fact that the revenue for a day's worth of tx processing given a throughput of 1184tx/sec and the value that implies would be orders of magnitude higher than the peak earnings for miners at the present point in time, right, which was like what, 40k per block 144 blocks per day 5.76M USD for 18 USD worth of bandwidth (even thinking this is a cost you have to account for is frankly fucking hilarious compared to the volumes of other costs you're dealing with and the incomes they bring you, but just to humour you..)

[Anonymous No.11839437]

>>11838063


STIFF

[Anonymous No.11839439]

ABC destroyed themselves.
It's no Bitcoin anymore it became a useless shitcoin
---

Bitcoin ABC 0.18.5 has been released!

This release adds deep reorg protection to ensure that transactions are immutable after 10 confirmations. This safeguard helps users, businesses, and exchanges stay secure and free from disruption.

[Anonymous No.11839455]

SV is the one and only true bitcoin implementation which is left.
You fuckers will soon see.
Last change to buy bitcoin at 50$ level.

[Anonymous No.11839461]

>>11839439
> OMG YOU TOTALLY NULLIFIED THE ATTACK WE WERE PLANNING AND SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A DAY ON
> WE WIN
hahahahhahaha you wish.

[Anonymous No.11839469]

>>11839398
ABC has:
>trezor
>bitmain
>kraken
>bitmex
>coinbase
>binance
SV has:
>mempool
>sharkpool

???

[Anonymous No.11839476]

>>11839461
They destroyed the last piece of nakamoto consensus with that and made it a centralized shitcoin where miners need to ask devs if they mine one the correct chain each 10 blocks.
ABC is worse than bitconnect and eos combined

[Anonymous No.11839480]

>>11838362
Biz has never been, or will ever be, pro-Craig.

[Anonymous No.11839483]

>>11839469
I think they do actually have yours...
The rest, no. Nothing outside the actual core coingeek properties.
Bitcoin SòyVision is unironically an attack, and like all things powered by Sòy, it fizzled.

[Anonymous No.11839492]

>>11839476
You just keep telling yourself that. Good luck. You are --really-- going to need it.

[Anonymous No.11839515]

>>11839416
I can't believe my fucking eyes here, are you honestly asking how miners can possibly make a profit spending eighteen whole amerifat dollars a day on bandwidth?
DO YOU FUCKING KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THESE MINERS SPEND ON ELECTRICITY PER HOUR?
DO YOU FUCKING KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THESE MINERS MAKE ON BLOCK REWARDS PER HOUR?
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?
WERE YOU DROPPED ON YOUR FUCKING HEAD AS A CHILD?
GET THE FUCK OUT MOTHERFUCKER.

[Anonymous No.11839516]

Do you want me to write the names on the picture. Do it yourself lazy mofo

[Anonymous No.11839574]

>>11839455
bcash sv going to zero
bcashabc going to zero
bitcoin to swell very slowly
coins with tech better than all of those shitcoins to skyrocket

[Anonymous No.11839587]

>>11839515
>while avoiding centralization
the absolute state of bcashabc, bcashsv, and bitcoin dumbfucks. total fuckin idiots

[Anonymous No.11839612]

>>11839587
> centralisation is not six neckbeards in a council making declarations on how the chain will work.
> centralisation is paying 18 usd per day in bandwidth.
kys

[Anonymous No.11839621]

>>11839574
oh look it's a corecuck, how clever. hearken to >>11838394 and gtfo

[Anonymous No.11839624]

>>11838337

BITCOIN ONIONS VIRGINS

[Anonymous No.11839653]

>>11838063
Defensive patents freely used in Bitcoin..

[Anonymous No.11839808]

>>11838063
would you rather have Craig Satoshi own the patent? Or Amazon/IBM/google/others. he may be a faggot, yes, but he's our faggot.

[Anonymous No.11839825]

>>11839808
gtfo

[Anonymous No.11839856]

>>11839825
> you will now discover me when pissed off
I kind of like him when he's pissed off, much more meme generation potential, when he was actually supposed to be an ally I kinda didn't know what the fuck to do with him because I felt anything you relied on him for, he'd invariably fuck up.

[Anonymous No.11840694]

>>11838271
>the biggest larper on the planet is insecure
water is wet

[Anonymous No.11840723]

>>11838614
no
even people who say he is satoshi are only joking or they have bcash and are just hyping up their coin

[Anonymous No.11840761]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsoqXKzT8wo

...makes you think

[Anonymous No.11840782]

>CRAIG IS THE REAL SATOSHI
im soo disappointed in all of you guys i thought you guys have 150+ IQ here

[Anonymous No.11840823]

>>11838721
>Blockexplorer

https://bsvexplorer.info

[Anonymous No.11840883]

All you Bitcoin fork faggots are worse than cancer. Crypto as a currency is the biggest fucking meme on earth and all of you are too dumb to see it.