/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.11770015]

Why do people hate on Mcmansions? I think a nice home in the suburbs with a 0.25 acre lot is nice.

[Anonymous No.11770071]

>>11770015
you could describe castles in the same way. how practical is it to live in a castle in 2018? that's the future of mcmansions

[Anonymous No.11770073]

>>11770015
Depends on who you ask. Some people think they're a sign of a wannabe. Others, like millenials, often can't afford any sort of home and want small, so these big places are seen as completely impractical.

I'm not sure if my house qualifies as one, but it's fairly decent sized, corner lot with a big waste of a front yard and I very much regret buying it.

To me, housing is simply a box you buy to rent out for passive income. But actually putting hard earned money into one for your own comfort is stupid. If I didn't have a wife, I'd probably buy the cheapest condo I could find and just live there.

[GT3000 !Q5taavazbM No.11770075]

>>11770015

McMansions are typically cookie cutter subdivision homes with cheapskate construction that have been inflated as a sign of prosperity. They're everything wrong with excess and people just love to hate them.

Enjoy

http://mcmansionhell.com/

[Anonymous No.11770083]

>>11770015
why do americans call them "mcmansions"? its just a mansion.

[Anonymous No.11770103]

>>11770015
It looks a bit tacky. How sturdy is that thing ?

[Anonymous No.11770105]

The one thing I don't like is that my neighborhood keeps tearing down a lot of cool older homes to build these mansions, then tearing down those new mansions 5-10 years later to build entirely new ones.
I swear half my town looks completely different from a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.11770116]

>>11770075
>cookie cutter

We don’t care about comforts, were freaks!

[Anonymous No.11770124]

>>11770083
Because they're cheap, built with plaster and wood, and are built to look nice. so they'll fall apart after twenty years, rotten and mold-ridden.

McDonald's is cheap fast food, McMansions are cheap disposable housing.

[Anonymous No.11770126]

>>11770015
>Mcmansions
>1.5 car garage
Poorfag detected.

[Anonymous No.11770132]

>>11770015

[Anonymous No.11770144]

>>11770015
Because it's cringe, it's just like niggers wearing counterfeit Gucci accessories, not only everyone know it's not the real deal but your pathetic attempt at pretending that you rank higher in society as you really do annoys everyone.

[Anonymous No.11770148]

>>11770083
Listen europoor, if you think OP is a mansion then you don't realize that this is a middle-class home. Yes, that is right. We complain in America but don't be fooled, we are still wealthy and our shitty middle class homes we make fun of are mansions in your shit country.

Just kidding fren, but pls consider coming here and we will show you mansions of the upper middle class

[Anonymous No.11770149]

>>11770124
>>11770105
My euro mind can't understand this. Who would buy a house that will litteraly rot away in 2 decades ?

[Anonymous No.11770173]

>>11770149
Mutts are just a bunch of golems driven by short term satisfaction, there is a reason they are the fattest and most indebted people on the planet with an almost vitriolic desire of consuming anything that their masters tell them to.

[Anonymous No.11770183]

>>11770149
Baby boomers. Gotta have a biiiiiiig house with twelve bedrooms because that means you're rich and successful
(house falls apart around you due to cheap construction, built in the middle of nowhere, spend hundreds heating a house because glass and plaster aren't exactly thermal insulators) crack sip

[Anonymous No.11770214]

>>11770149
It's cheaper to replace with a new one rather than build with good materials the first time. This is because of the consumerist mentality where new is better. This is also why Americans lease cars and get a new one every 3 years

[Anonymous No.11770226]

>>11770173
Stop the /int/ bantz I want an answer.

>>11770183
Honestly would spending a bit more on materials be less bragworthy, especially if it prevents your house from losing value ?

[Anonymous No.11770239]

>>11770214
>It's cheaper to replace with a new one rather than build with good materials the first time
I doubt it ngl.

[Anonymous No.11770245]

You'd never catch me living on less than 2 full acres

A mcmansion on less than an acre is for new money who still stinks of peasants taint

[Anonymous No.11770249]

>>11770226
>prevents your house from losing value

Houses always lose value from wear and tear, weather concerns, etc and it's a constant battle to just keep the damn thing in decent shape.

[Anonymous No.11770261]

>>11770249
>Houses always lose value from wear and tear, weather concerns, etc and it's a constant battle to just keep the damn thing in decent shape
My family house has stood for fucking 6 centuries so far. The roof itself is 2 centuries old.

[Anonymous No.11770270]

>>11770249
>Houses always lose value
brainlet.jpg

[Anonymous No.11770317]

>>11770239
OH buddy I work construction and lemme tell you a house like in the OP, without the brick facade, would cost probably about 30k in materials to build. That's it.
These houses have walls made of 2x4 framing and 5/8" sheetrock. All of them even the exterior ones, except those also have fiberglass insulation in between the studs. All the floors are 1/2" plywood. All of the framing under the floors is 2x6s. No brick or cinder block in sight, except for the basement/crawlspace foundation walls.
The brick facade is an illusion. Building a house with exterior walls actuslly made from cinder block would be vastly more expensive.

Trust me these houses are paper and popsicle sticks

[Anonymous No.11770326]

>>11770226
>would spending a bit more on materials be less bragworthy, especially if it prevents your house from losing value ?
Baby boomers, the generation that mortgaged their children's futures, aren't exactly known for being forward thinking

'climate change, who cares I'll be dead lel' and so forth

[Anonymous No.11770329]

>>11770083
overpriced shoddy construction for middle class morons who live way outside their means. Rich people aren't actually buying these houses. Its marginally well off people trying to look richer than they are

[Anonymous No.11770334]

>>11770073
Do you regret getting married? I got married 3 months ago and I'll probably miss the random hookups but I love my blonde blue eyed wife.

[Anonymous No.11770344]

>>11770144
Exactly. It's the white NPC equivalent of wearing a giant chain when you live in the ghetto.

[Anonymous No.11770405]

DESU most people just hate on them because they can't afford them. Same as all the "hated" expensive things in life, such expensive cars or yachts.

[Anonymous No.11770420]

>>11770334
Unquestionably yes. I can see marriage working for some men if they're retarded enough to want children. But, don't get married if you want someone around that has your back or if you want to be part of a "life team" so to speak. I don't believe that women think like that. You are simply a foolish donkey that has been tricked into servitude.

And keep in mind that as far as marriages go, mine isn't too bad. For some men, it turns into an openly-hostile warzone. I knew a co-worker who committed sudoku and later found out it was because of the pressure his wife put on him.

There's literally no reason to do it.

[Anonymous No.11770424]

Hate them because I can't afford them. It's the apartment life for life.

[Anonymous No.11770428]

>>11770317
I noticed the walls. Actual brick walls would look better than that. How much would cost a house like that with actually durable construction materials ?

[Anonymous No.11770452]

>>11770075
kek

[Anonymous No.11770469]

>>11770452
Not even germans can have such a bad taste

[Anonymous No.11770480]

Because the can't afford them

Base models start at around 300k and that's after you buy a 50k lot

[Anonymous No.11770512]

>>11770149
roastie and roastie's kids

if you dont have a family to house to buy a fucking house

[Anonymous No.11770522]

>>11770334
Marriage is like betting everything you own on Bitcoin SV on november 14 2018.

[Anonymous No.11770533]

>>11770270
They do though. The location / land may contribute to appreciation (but in many cases not even), but without a constant flow of dollars into the upkeep, the value of the home decreases. I've benefited greatly from high appreciation after the housing crash, so I've seen the gains, but I don't contribute much of that to anything I really did to the house.

Worse yet, the most important systems like furnace, A/C, roof, etc don't make the home "pretty" so you won't even get close your money back on these updates. This is why home flippers concentrate on low-cost cosmetic shit because it increases the selling price.

[Anonymous No.11770578]

>>11770480
Doubtful. That's the price of a 150-200sqm house made with real building materials in the suburbs of a large city in western Europe.

[Anonymous No.11770585]

>>11770480
Here they're 3 million plus.

[Anonymous No.11770616]

>>11770428
Depends how durable we want to do things. If you want all exterior walls in cinder block or brick, poured concrete floors, something that's actually sturdy and weather resistant then I could see a house of that magnitude costing 150k in materials alone. Even just concrete isn't cheap. For a project like that you wouldn't buy some ready mix bags at Home Depot, you order those big cement trucks that have transit mix. A few trucks carrying enough concrete to pour just the concrete floor of a garage could easily cost 10k. That's why you hear of public works projects like libraries or hospitals being built the costs run into the tens or hundreds of millions.

[Anonymous No.11770627]

>>11770480
That doesn't sound very expensive though, especially by american standards? Where is this? It would barely buy me a cuckshed here in sweden, and definitely not a cuckshed in the capital

[Anonymous No.11770628]

>>11770420
Does everyone who’s married and has kids say shit like “my wife and kids are the best thing to ever happen to me!” As a cope? Like would being alone and just having a dog and your hobbies be more fulfilling? I’ve dealt with enough women to know how much of a meme they are but biology still kicks in for me wanting to have a partner/constant sex.

[Anonymous No.11770663]

>>11770628
Raising a family is seen as the measure of a man in many cultures. Raising a kid is one of the most fulfilling things you can do.
Living alone with your hobbies and a dog is analogous to the roasties who hit the wall at 30 and never get married and live with their cats. They baby the cat and dress it up to simulate raising a child but it's not the same.

Raising a kid is like having a dog who slowly learns to talk, except that dog is literally a part of you.

[Anonymous No.11770676]

>>11770627
Kansas City area

[None !Q5taavazbM No.11770698]

Great breakdown of why McMansions are bad and you should feel bad too.

http://mcmansionhell.com/post/148605513816/mcmansions-101-what-makes-a-mcmansion-bad

[Anonymous No.11770699]

>>11770676
Seems like a comfy place to be.

[Anonymous No.11770712]

>>11770663
NPC response if I’ve ever heard it lmao. “B-b-but that’s what society says you should do!” Yea so you become a slave to the system even further to provide for your kid, wife, and take out a mortgage to house them. If I don’t like kids in the first place why would I want to do any of that just because society says? (Let’s keep in mind how retarded the majority of our society is btw). I understand the biology need to it as it’s engrained in our DNA from 1000’s of years but we’ve advanced beyond Neanderthals and this planet is already overpopulated and getting worse by the day. I’m guessing you are a parent?

[Anonymous No.11770747]

>>11770712

Lmao look at this so-yboy manchild. I guess you get more time for your vidya games.

[Anonymous No.11770778]

>>11770628
That is a very good question. I think some of it is lies when the wife is around. And there are a few (stupid or maybe brainwashed) men who probably genuinely think like that. And I think some of it is just me.

I've always felt like life was nothing but a struggle to survive and legitimately just want to escape it. My partner is pretty happy, go-lucky lady which I thought would be a good balance for me. But all it did was made me feel like I was the only responsible one and now I get resentful. Still trying to make it work and am trying to "let things go" a bit more, but I can't lie that it eats at me.

>>11770712
This guy right here. Maybe sexuality is nothing but an inherited mental disease.

[Anonymous No.11770783]

>>11770712
You do what the fuck you want. It simply means you'll die alone without a family, your own genes never passed on and be forgotten.

You'll never teach your kids and grandkids how to build a cabin, you'll never see a little part of you grow and learn.

[Anonymous No.11770803]

>>11770712
Ask me how I know you're an incel

[Anonymous No.11770844]

>>11770747
>gen Z
>ad hominems
>no rebutle
Your generation is the biggest generation of SoundCloud nigger worshipping betas in existence. You all think you’re depressed, don’t lift and your only interactions with women are leaving heart emojis or trying to “slide in their DM’s” because your too pussy and autistic to talk to them irl. Seems like you are going through your /Pol/ phase, when you grow up you can talk with the adults little boy.

[Anonymous No.11770845]

>>11770712
>Yea so you become a slave to the system

Yeah maaaaaaan you're like a slave to the system maaaaaaaaan

>calling others an "NPC"

You're a walking talking stereotype my dude. Off yourself.

[Anonymous No.11770851]

>>11770616
>150k$
Now that's something reasonable and I bet this house would lose much less value over time than plaster and wood.
I mean, plaster for inner walls is fine and all but you need actual concrete blocks on the outer.

[Anonymous No.11770854]

>>11770712
The measure of a man comment regarding a wife and kids could be seen as npc but why do you think that's the mainstream pov? Why isn't the mainstream thing to do just play video games in your underwear all day? Why did kings have sons and heirs when they had so much money and power they didn't need to?

There's a good reason behind it that neither you nor the npcs understand. They follow through because that's the npc response without understanding why. And no I'm not a parent, not yet, but I realize the value in creating life and carrying on my genes. We live in a society, it is the biological driver. Wanting to carry on your genetics and perfect your children in your image so they one day rise among the ranks and become leaders of the world is the driver. Of course it would be easier to think only of yourself, completely tap out of society, go live in a cabin in the woods in isolation and enjoy your hobbies until you're 80 and decrepit but that's a childish way of thinking.

If you're man enough you can have a wife and kids and nice house and still have time and money for your hobbies. It's just Npcs don't because, as you said, the majority are fucking retarded.

Maybe someday you will realize the importance behind starting families. It is easier to live in isolation but it's not the way life has carried on

[Anonymous No.11770928]

>>11770844

Says the guy who just wants to play vidya all day

[Anonymous No.11770971]

>>11770452
why not having them both ways?

[Anonymous No.11770979]

>>11770699
the girls are overweight hicks, the pay sucks, and there's nothing to do

[Anonymous No.11770982]

>>11770778
Quite a few low IQ brainlets ITT that have never studied psychology/evolution and thought for themselves I see. Were hardwired to want kids to pass on our genes yes, again those of us who aren’t literally still monkeys should have the consciousness to question why am I doing this?
>hurrrr you will die alone
Lmao you know how many old folks get stuck in nursing home by their kids anyway and die alone regardless? Shitty cope
>>11770803
You wouldn’t believe me if I told you some of the shit I’ve done with females this year but whatever makes you feel better. You argue like a woman just so you know.
>>11770854
Notice how the NPC’s attack and lash out at viewpoints straying from their own/the norm? My man I completely understand the importance of the family unit. unfortunately the way our society is going, having a strong family unit is quite a daunting task and in a world with a 40-50% divorce rate and the education/media quite literally brainwashing kids it seems like a useless endeavor for someone like myself who doesn’t even like children when I can spend my time in the gym, reading/learning, meditating, creating art etc.

[Anonymous No.11771019]

>>11770149
It’s the housing shit all over. People where/are buying up plots of land subdividing into Siberia community’s then putting cheap/fast construction houses on them. Rinse and repeat.

T.dad was in construction in the good ole days. He would walk around with 15k cash in his pocket just cause

[Anonymous No.11771054]

>>11770982
You sound like a stereotypical NPC teen with a high-school level in philosophy trying to be edgy and nihilist. I can smell the sweat from your unwashed metal band tshirt from across the internet. Don't worry you will grow out of your phase one day.

>>11771019
But why would anyone want to BUY a consumable house you need to change every decade or two ?

[Anonymous No.11771058]

>>11770149

Housing prices are so messed up that you can tear down an old house and rebuild a 400k one and it will instantly appraise for over a million

[Anonymous No.11771085]

>>11770982
By your logic might as well kill yourself now since you "enjoying your hobbies" is simply wasting resources since you won't be productive.
If everyone had your logic then humanity would be extinct in a generation.

Do some reading.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-mouse-utopias-1960s-led-grim-predictions-humans-180954423/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

This is where we're headed because of people like you.

[Anonymous No.11771137]

>>11771085
Not him, but those studies are about the bad effects of overcrowding. If you want to avoid that, shouldn't you be against reproduction?

I'm not sure if I'm following your logic

[Anonymous No.11771157]

>>11771058
Again, who would buy a wood and plaster for 1 million ? It's pissing your money away.

[Anonymous No.11771175]

>>11771085
Don't worry he'll kill himself soon enough from severe depression.

[Anonymous No.11771179]

>>11771085
>links study on rats about how overcrowding causes a societal collapse to refute someone who doesn’t want to have kids because the earth is already overpopulated
Lmao these are the people on /Pol/ and other boards screaming about their trad wife waifu and large families they are going to have
>>11771054
>Name calling means I win!
My man you literally argue like a fucking woman. Just because someone has a different view point on what they want to do with their life doesn’t mean you need to get all bent out of shape. Do you lift? You might want to channel all that pent up aggression into something besides calling people names on the internet.

[Anonymous No.11771189]

>>11771137
They were more about the moral decay of society brought on by limitless resources and not needing to fight for your survival. I see huge parallels between those studies and modern society, America has not had a war at home in a long time. In times of struggle, families /clans survive by sticking together. It sounds counterintuitive because that means more mouths to feed but its the truth. This comment sums it up well

[Anonymous No.11771201]

>>11770420
Smart man. So glad I didn’t fall for the marriage Jew. Falling for the college Jew opened my eyes enough.

[Anonymous No.11771209]

>>11771179
>Just because someone has a different view point on what they want to do with their life doesn’t mean you need to get all bent out of shape
I'm not angry, I'm amused.

[Anonymous No.11771217]

>>11770326
Leftists always expose themselves in these threads.

[Anonymous No.11771263]

Marriage is a potato-tier decision for a man today and children are only worth having if you are rich. If you're kids aren't born financially independent then you are cattle and should be ashamed for bringing more slaves into the world.

When I make it I might have some kids via surrogate but I would never, ever get married. Giving a woman the right to take half of your shit and ruin your kids and is just retarded as fuck, hilarious how tradcucks try to defend this system.

[Anonymous No.11771264]

>>11771201
>the rich and powerful in society all have wives and families, kings and nobility since the dawn of time have had heirs
>the rich and powerful in society all went to college (Inb4 you meme me Zuck and Gates, I'm talking all of the fortune 500 CEOs)
>"glad I listened to the advice of neckbeards who work minimum wage jobs while living at home with their parents and posting on anime websites"

Lmao are you hearing yourself? Instead of trying to imitate the top of society you want to follow the bottom of the barrel

[Anonymous No.11771291]

>>11771263
I'm poor but I had a son anyway. I'm not getting any younger and I don't want to die without leaving someone to carry on my name. I never married and she is gone, so it's just him and me. I don't regret my decision.

[Anonymous No.11771295]

>>11770015
also sounds nice to me man

[Anonymous No.11771394]

>>11770015
Because they are ugly as hell and built with shit materials. They are designed from the inside out but not from a functional perspective, just to get as many rooms as possible in the same house, while having some tacky towers and shit on the outside

[Anonymous No.11771409]

>>11771189
I see what you mean. Comfort leads to overpopulation which leads to suffering. But in the absence of war or other hard-times 'corrective' event, isn't not reproducing still the best thing to do?

[Anonymous No.11771455]

>>11771409
Then your country gets invaded and you probably get killed by the invaders because you are an old useless retard.

[Anonymous No.11771459]

>>11771263
This, maybe when I have a mil I’d debate having a kid but most women these days are not mother material and it would also mean an extra decade of wage slavery. Most trad cucks reeeing about kids on here don’t care about that though and would rather you be miserable so there’s more white people since they won’t pass on their genes because they look like pic related.

[Anonymous No.11771550]

>>11771157
The chinese trying to wash their money and the newly well off whho want to show off their newfound thousands.

[Anonymous No.11771552]

>>11770083
It is not a mansion. That is a normal-sized house for the upper-middle class in America. We call them "mcmansions" because we're trying to say something deep about capitalism, or architecture, or whatever. We're basically just a bunch of pseuds.
Where do you live, and how big are houses normally?

[Anonymous No.11771646]

>>11771409
I don't think so. From an economic point of view yes. It makes sense. But it isn't possible, good luck ever getting the 7 billion low IQ people on this planet to cooperate.

The way I look at it is raising a family is like playing God to a mini society. You must think of more than just yourself, you must think of the greater good and how to benefit all in your society. This then extrapolates into benefitting your community, and therefore the world.

Raising a family keeps you working towards a goal. If you've ever had the opportunity to be NEET then you know that it is thoroughly unfulfilling. Yes of course you have time to do everything you want, all of your hobbies. But that's not what life is about. Life is about the chase, it is about constantly growing something, having projects. If you don't have that then you will certainly develop depression and think what is the point of it all. Suicide is most prevalent in first world countries where people have everything they may possibly want, not 3rd world countries where people suffer.

If you've ever played a video game with achievements you know you have fun while grinding for the achievement, but soon after beating the game you simply get bored. Life is a game and it works the same way, except instead of achievements in a game it is either building a business or a family. This is why billionaires choose to keep working. They like the feeling of fulfillment in their lives from building their business. Normies, on a smaller scale, get that same sense of fulfillment in raising a family.


>>11771409

[Anonymous No.11771659]

>>11771455
Hmm, so I guess we do need to keep watering the potato farm to generate soldiers. For some reason, that's a bit depressing. We're all trapped in a sense.

[Anonymous No.11771663]

>>11771264
>t. Sun tzu faggot romanticizing his 9-5 slam pig life
Top fucking kek. I take no ones advice, it was my own choice. Made the decision not to marry almost 10 years ago. Feels good man.

[Anonymous No.11771670]

>>11771455
so basically your intense fear of death, even in the absence of any immediate danger, drives you to want to create an additional consciousness or multiple additional consciousnesses for the purpose of potentially extending your own life in some imagined scenario?

[Anonymous No.11771733]

>>11771264
Not him, but trying to emulate the lifestyle of the rich and powerful will only make you broke. Just because Warren Buffet bought a new airplane, doesn't mean that it's the right decision for everyone.

[Anonymous No.11771734]

>>11771670
No, personally I just want to have kids and raise them well with my soon-to-be wife.

[Anonymous No.11771748]

>>11771663
>letting the browns overpopulate and eventually overrun the land his forefathers died for so that he can have a hedonistic life of a little bit more comfort than having a strong proper family

You are no different than baby boomers, self centered and short sighted instead of thinking of the greater good. Remember this when in 20 years you feel like a foreigner in your own neighborhood and when in 30 years Muhammad is beheading you on your own front lawn while you're surrounded by 100 million browns
Lmao literal cultural/societal suicide. There is no white genocide. It's a suicide. Good goyim you've been indoctrinated by the overpopulation meme very well. Too bad Rakesh doesn't believe it and he has 9 kids

[Anonymous No.11771755]

>>11770015
Because county homes with views are better.

More classy, and you don't have to deal with city cops, hobos, refugees, gang bangers and street walkers.

[Anonymous No.11771771]

>>11771755
https://m.estately.com/listings/info/26701-se-wally-rd

Here is my pending home for comparison.

[Anonymous No.11771786]

>>11771733
You're right, because your poor you can't emate the rich, it's much better to idealize the 4channer whose most expensive possession is his gaming PC.

No one's saying buy an airplane lol. And if you are too poor to raise a family then you're right you probably shouldn't have one, because then you end up on welfare and my taxes end up raising your kids. If only everyone subscribed to the idea of "if you're too poor to have kids then don't have them." too bad Shaquisha never heard that and had 6 kids by age 22

[Anonymous No.11771810]

>>11771748
Sorry boomer, you tricked me into college and you won’t trick me into buying your over priced wooden boomer box. Enjoy the 3d printed housing revolution driving your boomer box value into the low 5 digits.

[Anonymous No.11771815]

>>11771748
Brown people won't be able to sustain their populations you fucking retard. They're all inbred and will get rocked by a major disease cause by terrible hygiene. Fuck off with your tradcuck bullshit, nobody here wants to play Captain Save a Ho.

[Anonymous No.11771838]

Why are childcucks so insufferable? Is it an innate need to justify their shitty life choices?

[Anonymous No.11771860]

>>11771810
>he thinks the price of the house is high because of the materials it's built with and not the land
Lmao material to build a mcmansion costs 30k. There's a reason an empty plot of land in the suburb of a decent sized city goes for 500k+

>>11771815
Brown people will sustain their populations by doing to you what Hitler tried to do to the slavs, go learn some history.

[Anonymous No.11771886]

>>11770712

Enjoy your extinction, drone. The genepool won't miss the good goys.

[Anonymous No.11772114]

>>11771771
>400k for a shack in the middle of nowhere
>in a city literally named Borning
>3 car garage but not a single bit of pavement anywhere

[Anonymous No.11772463]

>>11770075
>http://mcmansionhell.com/
imagine how jelly you gotta be to make a site like that

[Anonymous No.11772530]

>>11772463
>t. 30 years a slave

[Anonymous No.11772587]

>>11772530
yfw i have a half million dollars paid off in my mid 30s.

cheers

[Anonymous No.11772601]

>>11772587
>house

[Anonymous No.11772634]

>>11770015
>proper brick house instead of wooden huts
Gladly surprised. Are americans finally leaving behind pre-neolithic architecture?

[Anonymous No.11772683]

>>11770116
based and lennypilled

[Anonymous No.11772696]

>>11770616
FUck off here a 24x24 garage would cost ~$900 for concrete. The real cost is form building and the crews labor for install, but the actual product is dirt cheep

[Anonymous No.11772720]

>>11770616
The reasons public jobs cost so much is because of the architects/engineers fees, the management “consultant”, the constant change orders, the overtime pay for union workers...

[Anonymous No.11772733]

>>11770663
Amen nigga

[Anonymous No.11772757]

>>11772696
where do you live that a 24x24 pad is 900 dollars?

[Anonymous No.11772837]

>>11772696
M8 I work construction. Maybe it's dirt cheap where you live but here 2 cubic yards of transit mix delivered by truck is nearly 1000 dollars. Let's do some math then, 24x24 and let's say you want a 6 inch slab on grade you need almost 11 cubic yards. So ok closer to 5.5k than 10k. But still.

>>11772720
I know. I didn't say the materials for a public works project would be millions, the total cost would. But brick mortar and concrete is vastly more expensive than wood so my point still stands. Material for a 500 million dollar project probably cost 50 million. And if the same building was built from wood it would be 1/10th the price

[Anonymous No.11773102]

>>11772587
>c-check out all this home equity I have after paying hundreds of thousands to the bank interest!

That half million could have been in a low cost, liquid, diversified portfolio and now it's locked into an ugly barn. Sad!

[Anonymous No.11773117]

>>11770149
Me neither.
US houses should not be clasified as realestate.

[Anonymous No.11773141]

>>11773102
>>c-check out all this home equity I have after paying hundreds of thousands to the bank interest!

>implying i had a mortgage.

[Anonymous No.11773227]

>>11770015
REMINDER 99.9% OF PEOPLE WHO HATE ON THE SUBURBS, ARE POOR LITTLE CITY DWELLERS LIVING IN SHARED, RENTED, APARTMENTS WHO CAN'T EVEN AFFORD LUXURIOUS SUBURB LIVING.

I GO TO BED SLEEPING LIKE A BABY EVERY NIGHT, NO NOISE, NO NIGGER MUSIC. JUST SERENE, UPPER-MIDDLE CLASS WHITE AESTHETIC GRANDEUR.

JEALOUS POOR LIBERAL MONGREL KEKOLD URBANITES CAN STAY DOMINATED AND PAYING MY SALARY, LMFAO.

[Anonymous No.11773278]

>>11770071
mcmansions are perfectlypractical. they are homes. why such a jealous retard? yes, comparing castles to homes is fucking mongloid retarded low IQ lefty.

[Anonymous No.11773431]

>>11773141
it doesnt make you look any more intelligent for not leveraging half a million dollars btw, it's actually even worse than paying the bank

>>11773227
>impotent boomer rage
there are luxury apartments in suburbs, captain capslock

[Anonymous No.11773436]

Mcmansions are fine if you have a big family or are planning one, but if you live alone, it's just a money pit that's constantly falling apart.
The best would be to have a lots of acres of land, and build a small house that you can add on to later if needed

[Anonymous No.11773472]

>>11770015
They aren't very high quality for the price, they are built in bulk like most subdivisions. Go buy an older home and modernize it if you want a nice home.

[Anonymous No.11773483]

>>11770173

I'm American and this is accurate.

We don't think long term. It's all "I want everything now! Nothing is ever enough! More! More! More!"

It's been key to our success and will be key in our downfall

[Anonymous No.11773576]

>>11773436
Agreed.

Also build guest homes/yurts for rent and start (ganja) farming.

[Anonymous No.11773656]

>>11770075
Thought this would be funny but too much talk about nature destroying and Republicans. This guy is jelly as fuck.

[Anonymous No.11773670]

>>11770173
The only reason america is fatter is because of the mexicans and blacks. White americans have a smaller obesity rate than the whites in Britain.

[Anonymous No.11773673]

>>11770326
I feel like this is a picky point but when people blame "the boomers" all the time should we really be blaming them or their parents? The "boomers" weren't in charge of anything until like the 80s-90s. they were just kids when most of these retarded policies were being put in place. that would be kind of like blaming millennials for the war in the middle east for the last 20 years. Now that, that's the boomers, and their parents. i mean most all definitely went a long with all of it but the momentum and ideas seem to be were actually put in place by the thought leaders of the generation before them. for example social security was 1935 hart cellar was 1965, we went full fiat money around 1971, lots of other things im missing.

[Anonymous No.11773690]

>>11773483
You seem like a 15 year old. You need to travel abroad more and realize that Europeans aren't these fabled sophisticated aristocratic gods and are just a bunch of soccer hooligans that are just as dumb and impatient as Americans.

[Anonymous No.11773693]

>>11773227
good post

[Anonymous No.11773817]

>>11773670
>White americans have a smaller obesity rate than the whites in Britain.
Which isn't saying much considering that the UK is the fattest country in Europe.

[Anonymous No.11773848]

>>11773690

I'm 32 and have been to 15 countries on 3 continents

[Anonymous No.11773872]

>tfw will probably inherit my parents' renovated barn that is the size of a McMansion but has charm and is in the countryside but close enough to commute to a major city

[Anonymous No.11773888]

>>11773872
>Unless like all boomers, they sell it to afford their luxurious retirement, and fuck you over

[Anonymous No.11773944]

>>11770015

Because they exist solely to make construction companies money.

Cheap shoddy materials and inflated pricing to attract wasteful or ignorant idiots.

Youre literally better off trying to build a house yourself by watching youtube videos.

[Anonymous No.11774079]

>>11773888
They're planning to rent it until they can't get up there to take care of it anymore, at which point paying for their retirement probably won't matter.

[Anonymous No.11774395]

>>11770844
hit a nerve?

[Anonymous No.11774409]

>>11770015
>Mcmansions

Because ethnics love them.

At least in Australia the old houses of an area are pulled down and these go up. They fill up an entire block, all trees are felled and the suburb slowly loses its character.

From an Australian perspective the people moving into them come from poorer nations and do not value any of the historical aspect of the area they are living - neither the housing nor the outlook (highly treed, cool suburbs) and simply want the largest, cheapest building to show off to their relatives. They use them to signal their wealth.

For example I am aware of at least six developments on my childhood street that house chinese and indian families - yet these families are smaller than what my generation of kids grew up in the same location. Two parents and one kid.

In a 6-8 bedroom house.

This is a little different to the entire cookie cutter suburbs you get in other countries.

[Anonymous No.11774498]

>>11770015
.25 of an acre is nothing. I had 7 acres, mostly wooded, and it was fucking awesome. Could'nt see/hear the neighbors, all I saw was trees. Even better in the winter, when there was snow.

I regret selling, but the money was too tempting. Now I couldn't afford to buy it back, with how prices have skyrocketed. (This was less than an hour from NYC)

Land is always better. I never felt less stressed than when all I could see was trees.

[Anonymous No.11774514]

>>11770124
Plaster? Nobody builds with plaster in the US. It's all Chinese drywall.

[Anonymous No.11774571]

>>11770214
I've looked at newer built homes, and I'd have to rebuild one completely before I'd be able to relax in it. Shit like cheap Home Depot acrylic spooge instead of tape on the drywall, one skimcoat of paint, cheap Home Depot trim, hollow core doors, cheap Chinese hinges, don't even talk to me about the shit plumbing and heating.

The best house to buy is one built in the 50/60's, that was well built, maintained, and upgraded. If you can find one, they're all getting torn down.

I look on Zillow at the house I grew up in, in upstate NY. $90k, small 3 bedroom, 2 bath, fully decked out basement (that my dad installed), and is solid as fuck, as it was built in 1905 and well maintained. If it ever goes on the market, I want to buy it to retire in. The neighborhood is still all white, too. And, 1.5 acre lot. Shocked some real estate fuck hasn't bought it and split the parcel.

[Anonymous No.11774628]

>>11770616
10k for a garage floor? Are you fucking high? $600, max. Cement is cheap, dummy. The only issue is getting a truck to show up for a small job like that. Most garages can be done with a small rental mixer on a trailer, and a couple bags of cement, and a couple Mexicans. A garage floor is around $1.50 a square foot, 10k, get the fuck out of here with that made up bullshit. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.11774642]

>Mfw an American builds his house out of wood near ne

[Anonymous No.11774675]

>>11774514
Drywall isn't bad if it's used correctly (inner walls, armed band to reinforce the joints). I changed the configuration of my inner city condo when I bought it and did just that.

>>11774571
I can feel you, when I retire I'll refurbish the barn of my family house and enjoy our land in the countryside.

[Anonymous No.11774723]

sourgrapes coping

[Anonymous No.11774745]

>>11772837
6"? Maybe if you're parking 18 wheel trucks in your garage. LOL. You probably push a broom at a construction site, if you think homes are pouring 6" slabs for fucking mini vans.

And, transit mix is the same shit you can mix in a rented trailer mixer. It just means concrete mixed in a truck, and most of the cost of that is for the truck and the driver, not the materials - and most pour trucks won't do a garage slab in the suburbs, because it's a waste of time, unless it's the leftovers from a bigger pour.

Plus, your math is shit. You're using construction costs from a big build. A cubic yard from a truck is $65, on average. And it's MORE for a short mix, for something as small as a garage floor. Nobody pours garage floors from a truck, unless it's a subdivision where they're doing 15 in one day.
A garage floor is $600, Mexicans included. I could get a 100 year concrete driveway poured for $5k.
Stop acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about, and go clean up the mess the real men made, doing real work, Mr. Constructionman.

[Anonymous No.11774784]

>>11770015
That's closer to a mcmodern than a mcmansion. Mcmansions are famous for being structurally unsafe in certain areas to having fake foam columns that don't support anything. A mishmash of many home design styles with no overarching theme. Many different types of windows for seemingly no reason in random places that are not practical. Some tiny windows meant to let light in the room because it would be too big and dark otherwise. Mcmansions are for rich people who can't afford a nice mansion but they still want their home to look like one so they opt for a structurally unsafe impractical eyesore. A mcmodern is a cross between a modern home and a mcmansion. Its practical and trys to look more minimalistic yet is larger than a modern family home.

[Anonymous No.11774810]

>>11770075
>t.europoor

[Anonymous No.11774818]

>>11774675
Drywall is fine, if done right - and you don't buy cheap Chinese shit. It's better than plaster, maintenance-wise. The problem is, nobody does it right anymore.
My parents bought a $600k house, new, in 2002. I redid the bonus room over the garage, and I wanted to track down the contractor and nail gun his nuts to the wall. Cheap, cracked Chinese drywall, they use ungalvanized screws, and cheap acrylic goo instead of mud and tape. Not a single surface was true, either, every wall and ceiling was crooked.

Took me a LOT of work to get the room done right, but god damn, it looked good when I was done. I had my cousin redo the wiring when the drywall was off, too.
I talked to a local guy, he said all of the houses in that subdivision were falling apart - the contractor used Mexicans as builders and cut every corner he could, and paid off the inspectors to look the other way.
We took a loss on the house when my parents died. Too much of the house needed redoing, and the house wasn't that old. The entire second floor was settling over the main floor joist, the entire second floor was an inverted V over the joist.

Oh, and this fucker installed the AC so badly, we had to rip it out when we sold it, because if an inspector saw it, we'd have been fined.

Remember, new build, $600k.

[Anonymous No.11774831]

>>11774784
MCMansions are notorious for being extremely wasteful, in terms of heating and cooling - you end up heating and cooling large areas of air that are unused. Great rooms, huge annoying foyers, huge windows next to a fireplace, etc. Looks over function, every time. It's okay in hotter areas, but in snow country...fuck that noise. I'm not spending double my oil bill just because some contractor's wife chose a design out of a book and threw some Home Depot oversize windows all over it.

[Anonymous No.11775089]

a mcmansion is not just a big house a mcmansion is a big and ugly house made cheaply because the owners wanted a big flashy house but were too retarded to budget enough to make it not terrible.

its like getting fake boobs but cheaping out and the surgeon is from clown college so he does a really bad job and they look awful

[Anonymous No.11775105]

>>11771189
you'd find this blog fascinating

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/the-theory/rk-selection-theory/

[Anonymous No.11775174]

>>11772634
that's a brick facade. ie, its fake.
wood homes do very well in America for a lot of reasons. In california, wood homes are made from wood because they are the most earthquake resistant that way. many american homes, especially in colder areas, are brick but in many part of of the country the insulation is actually seen as a bad thing and wood is seens are more desirable.

[Anonymous No.11775203]

>>11770149
>rot away 2 decades
most wooden homes last far longer than that, the wood is treated so will not rot indefinitely. for example, I grew up in a neighborhood where nearly every home was wooden and built during the 1920's spanish colonial resurgence. they all last. the biggest problem with wooden homes is termites but the problem is well controlled in the States and even after an infestation the wood remains and doesn't need to be replaced.

[Anonymous No.11775234]

>>11772463
imagine someone comes into your neighborhood and builds a giant penis building that's essentially what a mcmansion is, they're not a sign of prosperity like the owners think its a sign of tastelessness

[Anonymous No.11775285]

>>11770015
Because they cannot afford those. People always hate what they cannot have

[Anonymous No.11775315]

>>11774642
wtf is going on here

[Anonymous No.11775331]

>>11773872
based
>>11773888
>tfw my grandfather sold his cozy home to move to colorado and die 2 years later
at least my parent's spanish colonial will be mine

[Anonymous No.11775433]

>>11771179
>>11771179
>Dind't even read the article.
The mouse utopia's didn't fall because of overpopulation, none of the mouse utopia's even came close to surpassing the maximum.

>Winning about namecalling whils't namealling.
Stop being such a thing skinned little incel faggot.

[Anonymous No.11775442]

>>11770083
That is a 3000 sq ft house that probably costs 400-600k, not a mansion. They are pejoratively called McMansions because they are often built as inexpensive as possible, look the same as every house in the neighborhood, and are for people who think owning a big house is a sign of wealth.

[Anonymous No.11775451]

>>11775442
>look the same as every house in the neighborhood
the classic McMansions is built in a neighborhood with actually good taste and the McMansion sticks out like a sore thumb due to its size and shitty construction

[Anonymous No.11775476]

>>11775451
Where do you live? In the south, there are entire subdivisions built like the house in op's pic

[Anonymous No.11775490]

>>11774409
>Because ethnics love them.
I've noticed this too

[Anonymous No.11775497]

>>11775476
OP's pic isnt too bad, I mean sure brick facade, shitty trim disgusting 2 car garage add-on but its a bad example of a McMansion imo

[Anonymous No.11775550]

>>11773102
>c-check out all this home equity I have after paying hundreds of thousands to the bank interest!

>>11773431
>it doesnt make you look any more intelligent for not leveraging half a million dollars btw, it's actually even worse than paying the bank

You're saying 2 different things here.

What do you suggest? I take 400k out of my house at 4.5% and gamble with it?

Owning your stuff in full is the greatest cheat in life. My housing costs about 1000/mo. Taxes, utilities, gas for mower, etc. No loans, no car payments, no debt, nothing. So after spending that 1000 to live in a half million dollar house, I'm easily able to bank well over half my income, which in turn gets invested.

The only way I was able to get into such an expensive home was from doing this strategy with a 100k house bought in 2011. And just like I did there, in 5 6 7 years when I want to move on, I will have banked about 3k a month X all those years, invested, plus the value of my house which currently is about 500k. All stress free. I could say fuck it all tomorrow and get a part time job at mcdonalds and continue to live here stress free.

That's how it's done.

[Anonymous No.11775769]

>>11774818
Well, just bought a 3br condo, 100sqm inner city, 300k€. Not much redoing besides opening the kitchen to the living room and the odd paintjob. I also made a new dressing, unironically out of drywall.

[Anonymous No.11775809]

>>11775203
See, I know that wood lasts long (the roof structure of my family home in the countryside is a couple centuries years old and is still perfect, same for the barn doors). However other americans say that mcmansions are shit and need to be razed every 2 or 3 decades.

[Anonymous No.11775884]

>>11775809
mcmansions are shit and need to be razed to the ground immediately

[Anonymous No.11776778]

>>11770628
Al Bundy never seemed too happy. And that show ran for 11 years so at least a few ppl tuned in because they related

[Anonymous No.11776865]

>boomer wants big, expensive house on lots of estate
>can't afford it
>"NOOO! BOOMER WANT"
>builds big, cheap shitty house on lots of cheap shitty land

https://neverquitelost.com/2017/06/03/the-town-that-never-was/

[Anonymous No.11776885]

>>11771054
It was a different time then. There wasn’t the internet and people just followed programming. College get married buy house.

[Anonymous No.11776911]

>>11770015
it lacks soul and shows you are a moron with no taste

[Anonymous No.11776919]

>>11770015

>Nice cheaply made, mass produced, pile of sticks you have there.

[Anonymous No.11776927]

I bought a small house. I can't imagine having to clean and maintain those giant ones. I guess if you have a big family it might make sense. Around me, in Miami, we have a lot of McModern now.

[Anonymous No.11777147]

>>11774409
>Because ethnics love them.
If by ethnics you mean thirdworlders and mormons.

[Anonymous No.11777164]

>>11777147
oh god. so many fucking mcmansions in Utah/wasatch front

[Anonymous No.11777182]

>>11777164
Yeah it's pretty disgusting. But those white niggers seem to really like them

[Anonymous No.11777292]

>>11770015
What even is the definition of a McMansion? I hear people say it all the time, but I've never gotten a good definition. But I've never had much of an eye for aesthetics or anything subjective. The only complaint I could possibly have about the house in OP's pic is the upper level windows.

[Anonymous No.11777388]

>>11777292

In practical terms most people seem to be referring to cheap looking houses that take up almost the entire property packed within feet of each other in the suburbs, or at least that's how it started. As its become a generally agreed term of derision many dumbasses end up using it as a catchall for house I don't like.

[Anonymous No.11777869]

>>11777388
That looks horrendous. Why does this fail to capture the aesthetic that those closely packed European houses have?

[Anonymous No.11778009]

>>11771646
Pretty much this. The people who think they want to go pseudo-retirement NEET+MGTOW are people who have never lived that life. You might think you can control your hedonistic urges, but you probably can't. Do you really think you have the discipline to wake yourself up at the same time as you would every day as if you had a job?

I like to compare it to the bone density loss that affects astronauts during space travel. You can workout and exercise every day in space, as hard as you want, but you'll still experience bone and muscle atrophy because nothing you do can replace the pressure of Earth's constant gravity. The NEET life is like that.

Take it from someone who lived that way for six months. After the first two weeks, general malaise sets in. At one month, depression and anxiety. At three to four months, full blown, existential crisis. The only exception to this is if you can manage to go full-monk mode, but that means committing yourself to a life of discipline and giving up your hedonistic pursuits.

[Anonymous No.11778107]

>>11777869

We're a nation that got huge incredibly fast and were/are transients on top of it. Most of the old houses everywhere in the world were built by locals for locals basically tethered to a small area, so there was a lot more interest in having it be functional and nice looking with expertise handed down from generation to generation. Getting quality now is both hugely expensive and unwieldy since many will move hundreds of miles away every few years so no one gets invested in anything. We've also largely forgotten who we were before we got here (or at least whites), especially when you get further west, so there's been little aesthetic sense to draw on as we've pulled all these places out of the dirt. Maybe things will get better now that knowledge transmission is a lot easier than a couple decades ago but for some reason everyone has decided that futuristic means bizarre ugly shapes for everything, so I guess we'll see how it goes.

[Anonymous No.11778173]

>>11770747
Haven't met any of these "Gen Zyklons" in real life yet. All the 18 year olds seem to be brainlet social media/wannabe youtuber/streamer faggots that are institutionalized with no critical thinking. Sorry to let you down, but Gen "Zyklon" are just a small % of people that go to /pol/.

Your entire worldview was fabricated by millenials shitposting. If gen zyklon exists, you're just cannon fodder for the millenial-led hakenkreuzzug.

Also, don't forget to watch anime or else you're a redditor.

[Anonymous No.11778434]

>>11773656
Pretty sure it's a girl from the general use of language and the way the writer just parrots things they learned in architecture class without real insight.
>oh honey
>oh no no no
>dormers do not work that way

[Anonymous No.11779493]

>>11773656
conservatives: 'ugh liberals get so triggered when anything political comes up they don't like'
also conservatives: 'ugh I wanted to like this person but they're liberal so I can't enjoy anything they're saying
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.11779525]

>>11773278
Your McMansion won't be worth half as much is what he's saying. No one wants to deal with the upkeep of a fucking 2500 sqft house.

[Anonymous No.11779541]

I didn't thing the thread would survine the night, >>11770149 here

>>11778107
You're probably right about the transient thing, it's pretty had to invest a lot of money in a place you deep down know you'll leave, even if you can make that money back.

Also this
>>11775550
>Owning your stuff in full is the greatest cheat in life. My housing costs about 1000/mo. Taxes, utilities, gas for mower, etc. No loans, no car payments, no debt, nothing. So after spending that 1000 to live in a half million dollar house, I'm easily able to bank well over half my income, which in turn gets invested.
Renting and buying a home on mortgage are similar in pure monetary terms, what changes is who's holding the bag/appreciating asset.

[Anonymous No.11779671]

>>11773872
My grandad has a large house with multiple rooms that he converted and lets out weekly as a cheap B&B, I hope he leaves it to me and not my retarded dad, I could make that work and give me 3.5k a month passive

[Anonymous No.11779698]

>>11779541
those look like solid buildings, if I ever get rich enough to build a house it will probably be like pic related, cozy and able to last centuries

[Anonymous No.11779743]

>>11770628
>>11770628
Depends
My roomate is like 45 still looks like in his 30ies though and his hooking up with a 20yo and while an most days he seems happy he admitted that its kinda nagging on him
Seeing all his friends with kids and families now
I think its a combination of social and biological pressure to reproduce and be a father have a family etc. its an easy way to give life meaning
Maybe its always greener on the other side and if he would be married with kids dreaming about banging some teen slut
My father on the otherhand said its the best thing he ever done and he didn’t regret it for a moment so it seems possible
He is a boomer though

[Anonymous No.11779780]

>>11779698
One of them in the previous pic is my grandparent's house on my mother side of the family. It already lasted for centuries.
This is the other family house, the building on the far left is 6 centuries old, the bulky one in the middle left 4 centuries. On the right it's our neighbor.

However I'd not advise you to build in stone nowadays, it has no value added compared to concrete or cinderblocks. Our house has been built with 80cm thick walls only to keep cold out, stone is a shitty insulation, period.