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/entg/ Entrepeneurship General bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 12:39:32 2018 No.11698555 [Reply] [Original]

Actually used the search, came up with no results. Maybe the third times the charm
I now believe the discord killed these threads even though yesterday I didnt. Shieeeet.
Please check previous threads for inspiration.
Ask any questions and hopefully an anon can help.
Be polite but tough love is welcome.
Tripfag if you are frequent or want to, or don't it's up to you.

In this thread, I'm going to compile the best income streams ordered by investment required, including both online and offline options

Little to no Investment($100-$1k), very hands on
>Direct Response Copywriting
>Dropshipping
>Social Media Marketing
>Digital Media or Marketing
>Affiliate Marketing
>Media Buying
>Web Development
>Freelance software development
>Making Online Courses
>Self publishing Ebook (comprehensive guide:https://kindlepreneur.com/book-marketing-101/))
>Product Arbitrage
>Consulting
>Sales

Some Investment Required($1k-10k)
>ATMs
>POS Systems
>Slumlording
>Daytrading
>P2P Lending
>Authoring or Online publishing
>Vending Machines
>Automated News sites or any kind of automated blog
>Automated online Arbitrage with the help of a buy bot

Large Investment Required, but still very passive(10k+)
>Parking Garages or lots
>Laundromats
>Batting Cages
>Rental Properties
>Buying Royalty rights on music, media, etc

If you have any comprehensive guides. Post them and we'll add them here.

Feel free to add more and share your knowledge, experience, advice with others, but I think that's a lot of value that you won't find in most threads here.

Previous thread:https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/11674416#top

Discord
https://discord.gg<slash>4usKUGn

Dropbox
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tqnuzrzrp0llrv3/AAA-6c_oXANnBEKK3Xt1K5pda?dl=0

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 12:46:20 2018 No.11698600

Shieeet boys I don't know how to keep these going. I've been hustling since i lost my wagie job and living the neet life until unemployment comes through. Had to put business stuff on hold but I love these threads. Not a big discord fan, so I'll keep making these and keep them on the board at least.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sat Nov 10 13:24:23 2018 No.11698882 File: 36 KB, 600x514, A1171A0D-74AA-4692-8296-22F429900F11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bionic bro glad you made it! Hows the hustle

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sat Nov 10 13:27:51 2018 No.11698908 >>11698555 Love what you did too the Dropbox it looks slick

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 13:39:48 2018 No.11699018

>>11698882
Thanks mang, good to see you too buddy. I'm just doing a bunch of odd jobs for friends and other people. Cleaning houses and yards and such. How's is your dapp working out?
>>11698908
Awesome glad you like it! Have a few more caps to add, will put them up later.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sat Nov 10 14:44:14 2018 No.11699508 >>11699018 So far everything looks good I’m still learning security practices in solidity? So I don’t get mtGOXed

Anonymous Sat Nov 10 15:26:29 2018 No.11699788

>>11698600
you're not the only one i will keep it bumped too

Update for me: Not much to report. I'm gonna launch a blog today. I'm leaning on siteground for a host. I wanted wait til black friday in 2 weeks for the apparent deals, but I just need to freaking start already. The next hurdle will be wordpress. I'm watching some tutorials on it.

I seriously have no idea what the hell i'm doing lol but i'm gonna go for it

Anonymous Sat Nov 10 15:41:36 2018 No.11699884

>>11698555
I can add some /biz/ adviced me
>Reselling tickets
>QA testing on uTest or other platforms
>Matched betting
>Fork betting
I tried QA testing on uTest, didnt make any munz as you need to pass academy cycle before you can get invited in paid cycles. It took like a month to past academy, yesterday was last cycle so I am waiting to get invited.
Methods I made some cash before:
>Selling currency from games.
Making like 150-300$ in first few weeks, then you wait 3 months for new server, as bots killng prices.
>Copywriting
Sold some articles, but people from this shithole dont pay much. I cant write articles in english as my language skillz sucks.
If some anons have easy methods to make 10$ per day, I would be happy to hear.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 15:51:42 2018 No.11699954 >>11699884 What games do you sell currency on?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 15:54:27 2018 No.11699982 >>11699954 Path of Exile. Its really competitive and complicated, so without like 1 year of experience you wont earn much. Prices drop drastically, so you need to be as fast as possible, before market gets destroyed by bots.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sat Nov 10 15:56:17 2018 No.11699996 >>11699788 lol you gotta go all in bro. can't wait to see how it goes for you! >>11699884 >10$ per day day trading shitcoin

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Sat Nov 10 15:56:23 2018 No.11699998

>>11699884
>Sold some articles, but people from this shithole dont pay much. I cant write articles in english as my language skillz sucks.

Uh... grammarly man. Grammarly. Also use HemingWay App.
And language skills don't matter if your writing brings in money. Always do revenue share deals (10% is generally considered standard).

>If some anons have easy methods to make 10$ per day, I would be happy to hear.

Close one $300 writing contract a month. Much easier than $10/day, I assure you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 16:06:30 2018 No.11700094 >>11699996 I would try to avoid day trading, losing even 10$ feels bad. >>11699998 I am pretty sure none of the apps able to correct the amount of mistakes I make lol.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 16:09:00 2018 No.11700110 >>11699982 I had a hunch it might be POE, I'm fairly experinced, but haven't played in the past couple of leagues. How much do you sell exalts and chaos for in the first weeks?

Anonymous Sat Nov 10 16:15:31 2018 No.11700162
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>>11700110
I am rarely selling exalts, usually accounts. But for the past two leagues I sold ex for about 0.35$-0.5$, as there was no buyers, then sold blank account to the same chinese guy. So I made like 120-150$ per league. If I could sell them in first week for like 2-3$, I could make much more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 17:18:34 2018 No.11700670 >>11700162 Hadn't even thought of selling accounts. Would really fit my playstyle of going hard for the first couple of weeks and never touching it again until the next league. Where do you sell them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 17:26:22 2018 No.11700731 >>11700670 Playerauctions

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 18:29:07 2018 No.11701235 b

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 19:01:01 2018 No.11701499 File: 74 KB, 396x385, j3mp8341fi111.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bump

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 19:15:18 2018 No.11701606

>>11699508
Nice hope everything works out my dude.
>>11699788
Heiled
As long as you just do it, im sure you'll learn along the way. Saw this dudes instagram merch shop. Looked super professional and had awesome designs. Talked to him and he said he had no clue what he was doing but it looks pretty damn good. Have faith my dude!

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Sat Nov 10 19:18:33 2018 No.11701625 >>11700094 >I am pretty sure none of the apps able to correct the amount of mistakes I make lol. If your writing sells, that's irrelevant. Charge more, hire a copy editor/ proofreader.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 19:19:04 2018 No.11701632 >>11698555 Good threads- I check in every day to lurk

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 19:24:37 2018 No.11701676 File: 1.86 MB, 500x600, 1422056794111.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any sirs got any good music for mturking sirs

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 19:28:30 2018 No.11701704 >>11701676 I feel like walking around the city picking up change is better money than mturk

Anonymous Sat Nov 10 19:35:00 2018 No.11701754
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Why don't y'all try Leapforce // Lionbridge // Appen?

I'm working for Appen under one of their projects involving a major social media platform, and it pays $10/hr (the lowest I've heard of their projects paying), and I can work anywhere from 0-5 hours a day, seven days a week, whenever I feel like it, from my laptop.

It's good supplementary income in addition to my full-time job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 19:36:35 2018 No.11701761 >>11700101 gas yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 19:40:47 2018 No.11701793 >>11701754 How long it takes to get first paid project? Im on uTest right now, and it took like a month to pass 3/4 of the academy, and I am not done yet.

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Sat Nov 10 19:41:39 2018 No.11701799

>>11701754
>Why don't y'all try Leapforce // Lionbridge // Appen?

They're shit and pay shit. I've tried working with them, but apparently my rates are unreasonable, despite only charging standard industry rates.

>I'm working for Appen under one of their projects involving a major social media platform, and it pays $10/hr (the lowest I've heard of their projects paying), and I can work anywhere from 0-5 hours a day, seven days a week, whenever I feel like it, from my laptop.

You can make more money if you read tarot cards online. No joke, all you need to do is set your rates to $1/min and make people curious enough to pay you.

>It's good supplementary income in addition to my full-time job.

Good is subjective.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 19:45:24 2018 No.11701822 >>11701793 They pay once a month >>11701799 I might look into that tarot reading, partner. As for Appen, I like it. I'm "working" right now, smoking weed and listening to Tchami in my apartment. Not bad.

Anonymous Sat Nov 10 20:05:35 2018 No.11701962
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>>11701799
lol thanks for the tip on tarot cards, I'm into that kinda shit and didn't know there are people who will pay for it. I also didn't know I had the opportunity to spend money on tarot card readings.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 20:12:08 2018 No.11701995 >>11700101 Not again lol I couldn't live with myself making this shit.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 20:13:09 2018 No.11702003 >>11701676 Don't you only get paid via Amazon gift cards or something? Doesn't seem worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 20:18:08 2018 No.11702023 >>11698555 Can I get in on this discord please Mr bionic handfag

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 20:18:51 2018 No.11702030 >>11702003 Not if you live in the US

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Sat Nov 10 20:20:45 2018 No.11702043

>>11701962
Oranum.com. They require you do quite a few hours at a low rate ($0.30/min or so), but afterwards, you can set your own rates up to... $3/min or something?

Just take it easy. If you have tits, that'll make things easier, too.

>>11702023
https://discord.gg slash 3Vyn4M

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 20:20:48 2018 No.11702044 >>11700101 Why are furfags always gay. If they drew hetshit I might be able to get into it but its all dicks

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sat Nov 10 20:29:24 2018 No.11702096 >>11700101 Furfags always seem to have disposable income. They tend to be the most generous when donating to projects they love. If only I could stomach that stuff and draw well...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 20:31:41 2018 No.11702112 Furfags always seem to have disposable income. They tend to be the most generous when donating to projects they love. If only I could stomach that stuff and draw well...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 20:33:42 2018 No.11702125 >>11702043 I don't but I've been approached by other boys since 4th grade so maybe I can play on that angle?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 20:34:32 2018 No.11702129 >>11702044 the rabbit from zootopia is showing up a lot these days

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Sat Nov 10 20:37:28 2018 No.11702149 >>11702125 Sure.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 21:41:07 2018 No.11702557 >>11702043 >>11702023 Wait is the discord link in OP not working?

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sat Nov 10 22:15:48 2018 No.11702760 I'm deploying the forum right now. Who wants to beta test it?

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Sat Nov 10 22:22:38 2018 No.11702802 >>11702760 Hit me up.

AIFag !!+/dzVgALuI6 Sat Nov 10 22:36:30 2018 No.11702867

>>11700101
Friendly reminder that Monstergirls > furries. furries doesn't even deserve to be capitalized as a word.

I would say something on topic here but I really got nothing. I'm doing pretty much the opposite of all /entg/ things right now, investing in dividends, got a new job, etc.

>>	AIFag !!+/dzVgALuI6 Sat Nov 10 22:38:05 2018 No.11702874 >>11702760 Might as well include me, I've got nothing better to do tonight.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 22:49:18 2018 No.11702933 >>11702760 Yeah that sounds interesting I'll help >>11702867 >monstergirls Agreed. Also there's nothing wrong with a job and dividends. Having multiple income streams is pretty good tho, ignoring wagie memes and all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 10 22:52:50 2018 No.11702949 >>11702760 I think this is a bad idea.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 22:55:14 2018 No.11702960 >>11702949 What type of bad?

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sat Nov 10 22:55:20 2018 No.11702961 >>11702802 >>11702874 >>11702933 BET >>11702949 explain

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sat Nov 10 23:13:55 2018 No.11703115 >>11702961 well whatever I'm ready to get DDOS'd the css is trash but backend is where i shine. Let me know what you guys think. zezto.pythonanywhere.com<slash>forum user:anon pass:(my trip)

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 23:21:41 2018 No.11703156 >>11702961 Getting some questionable characters in the discord. Cult shit and immoral stuff. Fuck I really hope entg doesn't get away from us.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sat Nov 10 23:26:27 2018 No.11703181 >>11703156 immoral? lmao i knew the discord wouldn't work

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sat Nov 10 23:27:54 2018 No.11703187 >>11703115 trip without "!!"

>>	AIFag !!+/dzVgALuI6 Sat Nov 10 23:35:05 2018 No.11703230 >>11703115 let's play CDN bingo >bootstrap >popper.js >jquery lol throw in angular.js and you've pretty much got my exact head tag fillers for everything i make.

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 23:41:05 2018 No.11703273

>>11703181
I mean those types of guys have popped up here but it's like unironic. I just don't personally understand manipulating and controlling people for personal greed/"guiding humanity in x direction because I'm right"
I've spent a large amount of time with normies and talking to them. They're dumb on the surface but genuine human beans if you probe deep enough on an individual level. Who's to say I'm different im not a lemming or npc. I don't want entg to become uncomfy.
Also nice forum dude

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 23:43:15 2018 No.11703281 >>11703273 *who's to say I'm not a lemming or not Sorry I wrote it weird

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sat Nov 10 23:44:42 2018 No.11703295 >>11703273 thnaks bud i need to clean up my css a lot , and ill keep you guys posted but you guys are welcome to post stuff and whatnot since most of 4channer arent gonna go in.

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sat Nov 10 23:52:59 2018 No.11703350

>>11703295
It seems like a few other people were interested from the discord group. Although I think a lot of them may stay there. More new people go there now than these threads from what I've seen. Im sure theres lurkers too of course. Hope this new forum works out, but at least we can make these threads if all else fails.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 01:53:02 2018 No.11704089 >>11703156 got any examples?

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 04:39:54 2018 No.11704956

>>11703350
Thx for recommending Hemingway app bionic.

I got a huuuuge grammar lesson. My greatest crutches are passive tense and adverb abuse. I installed grammarly afterwards. It had a lot of neat little corrections that I would never catch on my own.

I can't believe how much better my writing reads now. It will do the job until I make enough to scale and outsource.

I'm going to get some sleep. I did not set up my site yet. But when I get up. You bet your ass I am! One step at a time fellas.

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Sun Nov 11 04:50:03 2018 No.11704996

>>11704956
>bionic
I am mildly insulted.

>It will do the job until I make enough to scale and outsource.
I'm happy to take up more work over the coming weeks; getting back into the hustle has been a bit of a struggle, and I could use a few wins.

What kind of writing are you looking at?

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 04:56:15 2018 No.11705031

>>11704996
Fuck I'm sorry. I'm so sleepy ;_; I'll make it up to you mang!

For now I'm brushing up on content writing. I want to write some articles for my first Affiliate marketing website. I have an angle I want to try. It's not important to have articles. But it will at least be a fun experience.

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Sun Nov 11 04:57:36 2018 No.11705041 >>11705031 Yeah man, if you need any templates or tips, hit me up; always happy to share.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 04:57:37 2018 No.11705042 >>11704996 I plan to do stuff with images too. I have some art skills. But some Pinterest links will suffice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 04:59:29 2018 No.11705053 >>11705041 TY bb. I will be doing all webdev/WordPress research tommorow. I'll have a ton of questions in regards to that.

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Sun Nov 11 05:00:54 2018 No.11705061 >>11705053 Yeah, not quite sure what to tell you about webdev, but as far as content/ copy/ strategy/ traffic, there's a significant amount. Anyway. Tomorrow. Get rest mate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 07:32:35 2018 No.11705776 Morning bump hope everybody has a productive Sunday

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sun Nov 11 10:06:30 2018 No.11706486 page 10 bump, any thought on the forum ? or just overhaul the css?

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 10:42:57 2018 No.11706722

>>11706486
nice save. I was just about to bump that ho, right when you posted.

>>11705776
esskeetit!

>>11705061
>content/ copy/ strategy/ traffic
That's good to know. Each of those is critical. I'd be lacking in content the most. I mean, just looking at some these impressive niche sites. Even stupid shit() has these incredible informative blogs. How does a half-a-neet even compete?! y i k e s! Well I'm not too worried.

I've been reading Zero to One by Peter Thiel. It's back-to-back, full of great business philosophies. The title itself is a great mindset for us. Take a look at some of these snippets.
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/25332940-zero-to-one-notes-on-start-ups-or-how-to-build-the-future

music mang Sun Nov 11 10:45:19 2018 No.11706741

Fuark lads, put in notice at my wagecuck job and going all in on handmade guitar fx units.

you don't even need to be an engineer to crack it, everyone's been stealing off each other since the sixties so the circuits themselves aren't copyrighted. I'm just a monkey with a soldering iron to be honest.

Hoping to learn how to get these "boutique, mojo filled" schematics into CAD for circuit board production and have final prototyping complete before new year

Then it's just an exercise in branding, networking and getting my webstore up.

The margins are pretty fucking incredible if you minimise man hours on the thing, really looking forward to making it happen.

First time poster, great thread. Looking forward to sticking around.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 10:47:48 2018 No.11706758 Where can I learn the ins and outs of customs paperwork? I want to stop relying on a customs clearance agents, I want to clear my own customs

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 11:12:16 2018 No.11706907 >>11704956 Yeah sorry dude that wasnt me, that was from someone else I think DEC from the last thread?

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 11:16:56 2018 No.11706943

>>11704089
I was scrolling through some convos and some weird guy was talking about starting a cult, front groups, and being all high and mighty about his ideology. I'm fine with pol stuff, but it's like now for the guys coming up with this stuff are "christians" or some form of that. It doesn't sound right personally. It's better to break people off into small likeminded groups than try and steer the masses to whatever small groups of people think is right for everybody. It hink the worst part was people actually agreeing with him. One guy seemed skeptical. A circlejerk of people who think their way of thinking is justified basically.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 11:20:02 2018 No.11706962 >>11706741 Nice dude! I hope youre able tonsupport yourself for a but while you get this set up, it's tough giving up a steady paycheck but it sounds like you did your research. Good luck and keep us posted!

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 11:21:10 2018 No.11706970 >>11706962 God I hate smartphones. My spelling is horrendous >>11706758 Hmm. Not sure maybe there's a book on it?

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 11:25:16 2018 No.11707004

>>11706943
do you guys have the discord separated into sections? Why don't they keep that shit in the containment channel?

I wouldn't know how to moderate a 4chan discord. Free speech and all, but at some point if you're not clicking with us, maybe you need to bounce.

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 11:30:45 2018 No.11707036

>>11707004
Eh well I think it was in the general thread. Idk they have a general, serious BizTalk and a shitposting thread. Honestly an anon warned that the discord would be a bad idea. It's biz so of course there's going to be like cutthroat making money guys with no morals but when these threads started it was really comfy. just guys trying to make a comfortable living starting a business or learning a way of making passive income. The discord is now basicslly it's own thing I think. Like 90+ people have visited. I guess they like the app more idk. There's a guy who made it, I think he mods it. Not sure I usually drop in to take a look, just didn't like what I saw.

>>	AIFag !!+/dzVgALuI6 Sun Nov 11 12:05:45 2018 No.11707200 >>11706741 is there a good place to get like, the shell + cables + jacks, for a pedal? I've been wanting to make my own fx pedal for a while now but I don't want to actually make the pedal, just the circuit itself.

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 12:15:25 2018 No.11707256
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>>11707036
Based on what you say, I'm getting a good idea of what happened.

The discord has already metastasized. Our 'good' user volume is still too weak. Crypto attracts some of the shittiest losers and sleazy get rich quick mentalities. Let's stay the course on /entg/. We aren't ready to use a sophisticated discord yet. It's going to happen, but not right now.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sun Nov 11 12:25:16 2018 No.11707342 File: 35 KB, 800x800, mmm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11707256 i could maybe code a discord bot too, once we have a big enough "cult"

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Sun Nov 11 12:27:24 2018 No.11707358 >>11707256 This. I've been trying to be helpful and explain things for a while, but it seems like a lost cause; there's too much close-mindedness and too little flexibility.

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 13:07:34 2018 No.11707663

>>11707256
You're right, guess we will have to keep on chugging here on entg then. Which is fine with me. Lol crypto was the first thingnthey started talking about once the discord went up.
>>11707358
That's sad, some of those guys seemed like they wanted some direction or help with real biz stuff.
>>11707342
I'll never understand cult shit. I'm more of "the happening" belief in that people should stick to small groups just so they don't get brainwashed and shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 13:27:51 2018 No.11707869 >>11706970 >maybe there's a book on it? i-is there?

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 13:46:49 2018 No.11708073
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Howdy, I quit wage cucking a couple weeks ago. I've been making instrumental hip hop beats for 2 years and wanna get into the market as a producer. Anybody familiar w the game?

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 14:05:42 2018 No.11708215
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>>11698555
Anyone familiar with dnm weed biz in here?
Sitting on way too much and thought, as I have no real life connections to sell it to, and a bit too old to sell it to some college kids I could use the dnms to make some stoners happy.
Any links, ideas on packaging, form of selling (extracts, hash, buds) welcome.

Also is there a possibility to help out Canadian dispensaries or American ones running into short supply, similar to international backdoor like in the Netherlands

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 14:33:47 2018 No.11708431 >>11707869 Are you looking for shipping or importing info? I just googled it after your last post, and most websites are referring to those.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 14:36:09 2018 No.11708454 >>11708431 Importing, but most of the info I've found so far is pretty vague. And a lot of people just say "it's complicated, if you don't know it already then get a clearance agent, I don't want to explain".

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 14:36:51 2018 No.11708462

>>11708215
Last thread someone mentioned like weed cafes. I'm in CA and haven't seen it done here yet. Might be a little more work than finding connections, but you'd maybe have a chance at not much competition. Don't know much but just thought I'd throw the idea out there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 14:40:39 2018 No.11708498 >>11708462 I'll look through the archives thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 15:03:54 2018 No.11708712 >>11708073 So you were fired.

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 15:16:35 2018 No.11708792
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I want to get started as freelance Direct Response Copywriter, particularly in the financial niche. I've read that a good way to get your foot in the door is to email a major financial publisher with free short form ads that you created for the stuff they're selling and then to ask for response rates if they do choose to use them. Does anyone here have any experience with this or just any advice for me?
Thanks for making these threads btw.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 15:24:53 2018 No.11708871 Alright lads hear me out here - has anyone seen the news that the FDA is planning on banning ecigs like Juuls? How do we capitalize on that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 15:36:34 2018 No.11708969 File: 13 KB, 199x253, 1538170420092.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11708871 Sell cigarettes to nicotine-addicted children.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sun Nov 11 17:10:53 2018 No.11709858 >>11708871 Buy up tone of ecig liquid and sell after ban at 10x price , easy but illegal and unethical

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 17:16:32 2018 No.11709904 How much can a hentai artist make?

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 17:17:57 2018 No.11709914

>>11708073
I don't know hip hop as well but I'm fluent in DIY underground music. I'd try to find a local rap scene and start going to shows and get to know people/make friends. Start offering to make beats for people starting out and maybe consider performing as a party dj or something to get some recognition. Make social media pages to promote yourself and host your music. It's all about small step to get you noticed and to get people to recognize the skill and value you have to offer to them.

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 17:58:18 2018 No.11710245

>>11708498
Weed cafes was briefly talked about, but there was a cbd oil shill guy talking about that mostly not actual real weed sales. Damn wish I could help, weed shops are huge out here how they have delivery services right to your door.
>>11708454
Okay I'll see what I can find online just to throw some links your way bud.

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 18:01:10 2018 No.11710269

>>11709904
If you niche it out it depends how autistic your audience is and wants to spend money. Obviously furry is top tier cash money but id suggest xeno stuff because they are always thirsty for content. Making dakis along with that would probably be good too. Or you could get into like dark and seriously disturbing fetishes. Not an expert just my two cents.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 18:02:14 2018 No.11710276 >>11708871 What's the diff between juuls and vaping?

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 18:56:11 2018 No.11710769
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>>11709904
Making money at art isn't for the faint of heart. do not advise.

Starting out. You have a degree of skill at drawing good form. Though lots of flaws. You appeal to the audience by finding your niche and at making it sexy. You would be making below minimum wage or supplemental income. You gotta eat shit and find work from wherever you can. Your customers are entitled. You do not want to be at this stage. Time to grind and gitgud.

Mid-tier. This is usually the level of most hentai artists you see. You are as good as the average professional comic and manga artist. You can draw a sexy girl with few errors. At this stage you are in the top 5-15% of the world at drawing. You can start whoring yourself on social media. This is your world. fanart/retweets/tutorials. You're making between minimum wage and decent $$$. Most people never leave this stage. You will do okay with prints and getting commissions. You won't find success on patreon.

High-tier. Straight up you're good at drawing. You are in the top 1-5% of the world and among the top artists in the industry. You can charge what you like up to a point. You probably aren't even drawing smut anymore. You do very well just making portraits of sexy girls. There is a demand for people to visit you at conventions. Other phenom artists follow you and like your work. You can charge a good price on commissions. You would do well on patreon.

Phenom-tier. You are in the top 1% of earners in the artworld. You are in the top 1-2% of the best artists at drawing. You're easily earning as much, if not more than a surgeon. 500k+/yr And you are in someone's top 10 favorite artists. You have the power to influence the art world. Then you can probably set up a patreon strategy. I believe Sakimichan is the highest paid smut artist on patreon. She's earning easily over $2 million a year from her Patreon reward tiers. Patreon hides what people make now, but she's got to be earning way more than $3m+ a year.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sun Nov 11 19:50:02 2018 No.11711256 File: 12 KB, 246x232, 9DC69C6D-6258-41E0-9557-6463222CCE16.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11710269 I’m a little worried with what you know bud

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 20:30:38 2018 No.11711576
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>>11711256
Nah its like i know OF this stuff because ive been on this damn website too long. My tastes are fairly vanilla. I've seen things bro, but I didn't like them.

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 20:51:37 2018 No.11711707
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Why is it that in the US, GameStop is the main distributer of games? Why hasn't this changed. I've been playing around with the idea of starting a new brick and mortar place after an opportunity presented itself. I've made this short survey and would appreciate any feedback.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 20:53:00 2018 No.11711717 >>11711707 >ht t p s: //goo (d0t) gl/for ms/ht mTI LlpL1G MP2 DP2

young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Sun Nov 11 21:05:44 2018 No.11711808
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The more and more I read the Affanon thread I get hyped to do AM. I’m buying the domain and hosting tmmr bros and giving this a try. Even if I fail $50 is nothing compared to what I loss in crypto lmao

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Sun Nov 11 21:18:40 2018 No.11711920

>>11711808
Nice dude, best of luck! Keep us posted on your journey
>>11711707
This is pretty suprising, I've never thought of that. I guess when blockbuster and videos stores went down, no other competition appeared. I've seen small brick and mortars around my town.

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 21:30:51 2018 No.11711990

>>11711920
Yeah it's very strange. Sure, Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy and Target are around but there should be another chain that handles gaming needs. I figure a newer one can be built that recognizes GameStop's short comings and builds on it. If you're interested, do you mind filling out the survey found here?
>>11711717

Had to add spaces and replace the '.' with (d0t) just to post it. System labeled it spam otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 21:57:28 2018 No.11712152 File: 1.26 MB, 320x240, IMG_20180626_161940_681.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11711920 Thank you! Your feedback is appreciated!

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 11 22:08:12 2018 No.11712227 >>11708871 They (feds) believe this causes teens to later switch to real tobacco. You are safe as long as you stay with e-cigs.

Anonymous Sun Nov 11 22:12:24 2018 No.11712268
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>>11701754
The funny thing about that picture. Rich people always borrow the money. You cucks just believe holding your own cash is the way. Little do you know that being rich is nothing more than your current debt status but elevated to millions per month in new loans. Its all just a balancing scale. Learn how to use the largest credit market in the world and stop this nonsense debt free meme you got from who knows where but certainly not the rich people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 00:07:07 2018 No.11713195 >>11708792 Anyone have some advice?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 00:50:01 2018 No.11713501 >>11712268 Then a crash happens and you’re overleveraged and now millions in debt, thanks for playing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 01:39:16 2018 No.11713778 >>11713501 >not foreseeing the crash this is why you're poor jk used wisely tho, credit helps one make money faster

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Mon Nov 12 01:40:36 2018 No.11713789

>>11713195
Sorry bro, all I can offer is the dropbox and past threads that hopefully haven't 404d. There was One anon who was a copywriter that left a whole bunch of info 2 threads ago. I think I capped his convos but I can't remember.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Mon Nov 12 01:41:40 2018 No.11713800 >>11713778 How? All the people I know are normies who just go into debt on credit.

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Mon Nov 12 01:44:18 2018 No.11713819

>>11708792
>I want to get started as freelance Direct Response Copywriter, particularly in the financial niche.

Talk to Jake Hoffberg or Kyle Milligan.

>I've read that a good way to get your foot in the door is to email a major financial publisher with free short form ads that you created for the stuff they're selling and then to ask for response rates if they do choose to use them.

Yeah, but that assumes you'll actually write stuff that's good and not immediately trashed.

>Does anyone here have any experience with this or just any advice for me?

Get good at writing copy first. Agora Financial consistently looks for new talent; it might be a very good idea to message... Joe Schriefer, I believe?

Also, be ready to move to Baltimore at least for a few months - AF has their own training regimen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 01:55:48 2018 No.11713880 >>11713819 Thanks for the reply! I know about Jake Hoffberg. I'll definitely check out Kyle Milligan too. I'm completely prepared for rejection. I can't move to Baltimore since I'm not from US though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 01:56:27 2018 No.11713883 >>11713800 Because they use it to buy shit they dont need. Actually rich people use debt properly matching assets to liabilities to minimize default risk while enhancing returns. Simple corporate finance.

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Mon Nov 12 02:02:50 2018 No.11713914 >>11713880 Yeah, I'm in the EU too. Part of the reason why I'm not even trying for AF.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 02:06:43 2018 No.11713934 >>11713914 So they won't hire me if I can't go to their training camp? Interesting, I wasn't aware of this. There are smaller financial publishers I could try though.

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Mon Nov 12 02:12:32 2018 No.11713964

>>11713883
Is it really simple though? Corporate finance doesn't sound simple at all. Well at least not to me, I barely understood what you said. Guess that makes me a normie. So is it like for example in some cases paying a mortgage for a house is cheaper than rent?

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Mon Nov 12 02:13:34 2018 No.11713969 >>11713914 Lol forgot your trip is DRC for a reason

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Mon Nov 12 02:35:25 2018 No.11714078 >>11713934 That's certainly an idea. >>11713969 zozzle

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 02:45:12 2018 No.11714128
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Web dev here. Im currently working on a project which is essentially a map-based social media platform, pic related.

I always have this issue when it comes to working on personal projects, I always get super excited and obsessed when I start out, then it quickly tapers off and I lose interest.

I’m trying to pick things back up but got bored doing the essential stuff (backend and architecture shit). Also I’m not sure if the platform should be general or targeted to a specific audience. I was thinking to keep in general so that users can post random shit, geotag events/news and also act as a market place so people can find products and services in their area. How can I stay focused and inspired, especially after doing this for a living 8-9 hours a day?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 02:47:21 2018 No.11714143 >>11714128 Also was thinking I could easily tie this project into crypto (but that’s not my main goal)

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 03:16:05 2018 No.11714284

Hey anons, newbie investor here currently in an economics class at my school. Is investigating in bonds in a foreign country ever a good option? It seems like investing bonds in a country with high growth predictions is relatively risk-free and will always provide a return on investment. I haven't asked anyone I know about this though so there could be some obvious reasons I'm not aware of as to why this wouldn't work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 04:04:06 2018 No.11714514 Lads, how hard, hypothetically, would it be to start an aerospace firm, that specialises in engine manufacturing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 05:40:24 2018 No.11714947 How much would you pay for a drone that could stay in the air for 12 hours at a time versus a drone that could stay in the air for days at a time?

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 05:43:41 2018 No.11714968

>>11714514
>specialises in engine manufacturing
I sure hope you mean piston engines. Also the FAA is a real bitch and absolutely everything you do, all the manufacturing processes you use, and all the materials you buy have to go through multiple levels of certification by them. Albeit my only aerospace experience is with large airliners, so I can only hope that it gets better for smaller general aviation aircraft.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 06:02:02 2018 No.11715053 >>11714968 Nah it’s for some dumb fucking idea I have that probably won’t work, but /if/ it does, it’d be pretty fuggin good. But it is for turbofan size engines, not pistons bud.

music mang Mon Nov 12 07:22:18 2018 No.11715484

>>11707200
Of course!
You can source everything through tayda if you want the cheap and easy approach. Everything comes quickly but some parts (like potentiometers) are very hit and miss.

Pedalpartsplus do drilled enclosures and sell switches, knobs, pots and jacks etc. I cannot recommend them enough.
Smallbearelec have been good to me, as has bitsbox in the UK.

Aion, Coda, Mission Engineering have resources on the best places to source each type of component though.

Could save a shitload of time and just find a BYOC kit if it's your first go tbqh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 07:22:55 2018 No.11715487 >>11715053 To elaborate, it would be a fuel-less aircraft engine, the only inputs being air and power

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 09:15:33 2018 No.11716221

>>11714128
>I always have this issue when it comes to working on personal projects, I always get super excited and obsessed when I start out, then it quickly tapers off and I lose interest.

My whole life until this year I had this same very specific problem, couldn't understand what was wrong with me and it caused a lot of self-hate and constant disappointment.

If this really is a recurring issue then I can almost guarantee you that you have undiagnosed ADHD. If you do it's not a bad thing, now you know what it is you can finally fix it.

Check out this shit, might help
https://psychcentral.com/blog/adults-adhd-7-tips-for-finishing-what-you-start/
https://thrivewithadd.com/adhd-impulsivity-poor-follow-through/

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 09:36:39 2018 No.11716377 My favourite thread. Can someone pls link me to the AM info? can't find it in the archive

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 09:57:16 2018 No.11716544 Anyone here sell info products? like Udemy or your own site? I'd like to have a chat if possible. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 11:50:09 2018 No.11717545 Does anyone have experience in phone and computer repair and/or flipping?? I'm thinking of buying used phones and pc's for cheap and selling parts on ebay

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 12:32:49 2018 No.11718014 >>11716221 shit i think i have this. Those links helped me get some stuff done I've been avoiding all week. I started with the shittiest thing I hate doing first, so it's a downhill run from there.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Mon Nov 12 13:38:59 2018 No.11718616 >>11717545 their was somebody else that did this in previous threads. you might want to look at that

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 14:09:20 2018 No.11718930 >>11715053 >>11715487 >turbofan size engines Turbofans are unironically the most expensive part of an aircraft. How much aerospace engineering expetience do you have?

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Mon Nov 12 15:37:33 2018 No.11719806 >>11718930 t. probably works at Boeing

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 15:49:05 2018 No.11719936

>>11718930
About halfway through a masters. It’s purely hypothetical, but the theory is pretty much sound (source: my knowledge of the properties of air and one of my physics teachers back in college). I just don’t know how effective it’d be in practice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 16:24:08 2018 No.11720300 >>11710769 This seems reasonable, but it looks like there are people in the high/phenom tier that aren't very skilled at art and were lucky at getting trending stuff out in the right place at the right time.

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 17:04:18 2018 No.11720676

>>11716221
Yeah it’s been this way my whole life. There have been hundreds (if not thousands) of projects that have ended up like this. The saddest thing is some of the ideas I’ve had have turned out to be cash kings a few years later... it’s like self sabotage really. Thanks anon I’ll check out your links

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 17:12:46 2018 No.11720760

>>11716221
Actually these links were useless but I appreciate the thought. I have had it suggested that I could have ADHD before and I did some reading previously that described symptoms that I experience (I also did an online test). Did you get yourself checked out anon? I’ve thought about it but not really sure if it would be a good idea to be medicated...

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Mon Nov 12 17:17:19 2018 No.11720803 >>11716377 Try the Dropbox in OP, I capped some, hopefully most of affiliate anons posts.

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Mon Nov 12 17:20:43 2018 No.11720836

>>11717545
Have you checked what they are selling for on eBay? Before buying anything I recommend searching for the phones and parts you're going to sell and filtering the completed sales. That will tell you how much you can make and what they are selling for.

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 17:31:31 2018 No.11720945

>>11720300
I went autistic on writing that. You can do anything you want in art. It is challenging to make money. Even to practice at improving your drawing skill. You have a lot of plates to spin. To draw porn or hentai? Smut does sell! I'm torn here. Like 70% of the links i click is because of a pretty 2d or 3d grill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 17:42:32 2018 No.11721046 >>11702760 Forum for what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 17:52:23 2018 No.11721162 File: 53 KB, 615x551, ss+(2018-08-25+at+06.20.40).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] brainstormed a good domain name >tfw i got cold feet ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 17:57:37 2018 No.11721217 Is Amazon FBA really as lucrative as people make it out to be?

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Mon Nov 12 19:32:47 2018 No.11722158 bump page 10 baka

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Mon Nov 12 19:41:41 2018 No.11722255 File: 97 KB, 576x768, 1538418292743.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bump for ya

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Mon Nov 12 20:15:07 2018 No.11722633 its so freaking cold out damn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 20:52:40 2018 No.11723095 >>11702112 I can draw well and I STILL refuse to cater to fur and trap tastes... Am I missing out on big money?

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 21:01:51 2018 No.11723211

>>11699998

I see ridiculous numbers being thrown around for copywriting. Is it hard to get into? Because my writing is far above average and I can wax poetic when necessary. I read every single day and my vocabulary is huge. I've looked into it but it basically seems like the only two requirements are:

1. Be decent at writing
2. Have some knowledge of marketing and common sense

Is it this easy?

I want to do direct response copy since I don't have the time nor the inclination to write long articles or ebooks.

Someone give me something to sell so I can write some copy and others can judge if it's any good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 21:03:09 2018 No.11723227 >>11721162 Did you want to sell it or use it for something?

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 21:22:30 2018 No.11723426

>>11723227
Keep. I want to use it for a blog. Then I will convert it to AM. I have cold feet on making content. But the good news is that the pistons are firing in my brain.

I'm about to go to work right now. This will be my time to cool down and think. Perhaps I can improve the name.

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 21:29:30 2018 No.11723479

>>11706943
Your opinion, bro.
Imo cult / secret society is the way to do it.
Can support that claim by being in a local political scene in the town of 80k people.
Cult = networking on steroids
Collective of faggots working hard to /makeit/ helping each other in the process ..how is that not a good thing?

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 21:31:47 2018 No.11723497

>>11723426
Cool. Just get the content down. The name isn't that important as long as it conveys your brand. Make the site look professional. Get like 10 articles written, get the site, put them up and start marketing the site while writing 1 or 2 articles a week. Get google analytics + fb pixel too. It's worth learning a bit about that. Get an opt-in pop-up as well so you can use it for marketing down the line. I assume you're gonna use wordpress or squarespace?

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 22:05:10 2018 No.11723822

>>11723497
Damn. Nice advise dude. Thanks!
10 articles then the site ok I can definitely do that.

Pro site. I got a few ideas for the look. I hope it's as easy as they say with WP plugins.

Google analytics. Heard of it. and fb pixel. New to me. But I will do as you say. And read up on it after work.

WordPress for sure! What's up?

>>	CaptainObvious Mon Nov 12 22:06:24 2018 No.11723831 >>11700101 Yeah dude, this shit is ridiculous. Look at Trials in Tainted Space. That dude makes 30k a month and just started selling merch too. I feel like the niche fetish markets are a decent place to make good money.

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 22:08:30 2018 No.11723857

>>11708073

Upload your beats on youtube. Put an audio water mark in them every 30 seconds or so. Get a website and let people buy the full beats. There's dudes doing it on youtube already. You could try to take requests. Differentiate yourself. Make those lofi hiphop beats on the same channel to drive in traffic. Everyone likes them and they're good to relax to. Just slap on an anime pic. Sell them on spotify and other streaming services too. Post some samples so we can see if you're any good. If you are and you can make good stuff consistently, the biggest challenge is probably marketing.

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 22:12:49 2018 No.11723898

>>11723822
Yeah, wordpress is fine. Get the most popular plugins that are applicable to your site. Read about SEO. Get your content in as many places as possible without spamming. What are you writing about? Build authority by visiting forums and places where they discuss similar things and post good content. Then mention your blog.

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 23:09:52 2018 No.11724526

>>11723211
Newfag here, seconding this. Is it that easy to make money by writing?

It's amazing how many salaried leadership staff at my job can't write at a fucking high school level; I wouldn't be surprised if I can make a few hundo/month with writing but I didn't realize it was an option.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 23:13:19 2018 No.11724560 >>11698555 Is this the most supportive place on 4chan? (Also, spotted.) Also who made this pretty OP image?

Anonymous Mon Nov 12 23:23:32 2018 No.11724647

>>11723211
>I've looked into it but it basically seems like the only two requirements are:
>1. Be decent at writing
>2. Have some knowledge of marketing and common sense

Nope. Your ability to write literally doesn't matter. Your ability to sell, to read people, to find their deepest secrets and entice them to act on them... THAT's what sells.

>I want to do direct response copy since I don't have the time nor the inclination to write long articles or ebooks.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good joke.
You'll spend two months meticulously bleeding over 15-30 pages of text, then it'll BOMB, and you'll find yourself in need of more work.
A bit more seriously, start small - write some facebook ads, some emails, write some general advertorials.
The barrier to entry isn't that high, aside from having to do a lot more legwork to find clients when starting out.

>>11724526
It's that SIMPLE to make money by writing, yeah.
Is it easy? Nah. Those 'salaried leadership staff'? You need to write in a way they'll understand.
Forget your degrees and literature clubs. This is about the sale. You either make it or you don't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 23:55:39 2018 No.11724908 File: 254 KB, 600x375, Brainwashed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11723479 >>11723479 Tell me more about why you believe the cult/secret society method with many front groups is a good idea, I am quite curious

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 12 23:59:05 2018 No.11724950 >>11724560 /s4s/ is the most positive board i can think of atm

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 00:37:29 2018 No.11725290 >>11724647 I'm still able to take you seriously but you sound like an an embodiment of a sales guru stereotype.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 00:38:50 2018 No.11725302 >>11725290 Isn't that the point?

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 00:39:36 2018 No.11725310 >>11725290 I've been writing for a sales guru exclusively over the last 6 months. Must have rubbed off on me.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 00:43:19 2018 No.11725328

>>11725310
kek

You ever find that reading/writing something for a while gets into your thinking like that? Sorta like picking up local vernacular really quick?

I do, in damn weird ways. Horror stuff makes me actually paranoid. If i read too much of something written in third person, I start thinking in third person/narrating my life internally.

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 00:45:56 2018 No.11725342

>>11725328
Yeah, this is also why I spend several days consuming sales and marketing materials aimed at the niche I'm writing for before even STARTING to put together an outline.
Getting the emotional core of the message down cannot be overstated.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 00:54:36 2018 No.11725404

>>11699788
WordPress is a 1 click install on most hosting providers. Get a nice theme from genesis or some stupid shit like that. One actual tip without bullying: make sure to get SSL (https in front of URL) on your blog, and install the WordPress https plugin as well. Not just because it's more secure, but also because you'll get higher ranking in search results

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 01:15:28 2018 No.11725556
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My friend is doing a million business ideas, works at Google, and is financially independent

And here I am struggling to make one website. I wish I was as amazing as her but have no idea how to be.

Now that she has money she keeps making more and more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 01:16:15 2018 No.11725561 >>11725556 >her LOL It's because she has beta orbiters that are smart and doing all the actual work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 01:18:15 2018 No.11725573 >>11725561 I wish it was. I've watched her work. She is a better engineer than me. I feel like I'll never catch up. She's the smartest woman I've ever met. I just don't know how to compete.

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 01:21:47 2018 No.11725598 >>11725573 Don't compete. Competition is for losers. Find a way to address a need people don't realize they have.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 01:22:15 2018 No.11725601 >>11725598 I just need some encouragement to keep going.

>>	AIFag Tue Nov 13 01:22:45 2018 No.11725606 >>11715484 Thanks music mang, i'll look into those. Honestly probably don't really even need the enclosure, just the jacks, but im lazy lol. Prolly build a fuzz box first like all the kids do. also holy crap this thread is still alive lmao. have a bump.

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 01:23:44 2018 No.11725609 >>11725601 You can do it man. All you need is ONE big idea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 01:30:28 2018 No.11725659 >>11725609 I just wish I had invested in ETH like she did That's where all her businesses were built from. I missed my one chance

>>	AIFag Tue Nov 13 02:03:33 2018 No.11725887 >>11725659 Opportunities are a dime a dozen. You gotta [ACT] bro.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 02:25:28 2018 No.11726053 >>11725887 True. I need to take encouragement

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 03:22:10 2018 No.11726404 >>11723479 Fuck outta here with that cult shit Most of us here wanna get money so we dont have to wage slave, support our families and buy ourselves some nice luxuries. If I wanted networking gains, Id go to charity events.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 03:29:27 2018 No.11726439 >>11726404 -t. Materialist with no Grand Cause in his Life There is righteous joy in the enslave of your fellow man, if you control them, then the powers that be don't. Free them from liberty itself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 03:39:50 2018 No.11726493 >>11724560 >most supportive place on 4chan Probably >who made this pretty OP image? Pretty sure that was young poor fag when he was intoxicated with vaporvibes

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 03:50:34 2018 No.11726558 File: 26 KB, 619x453, wontmakeit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've been studying DR copywriting and it seems pretty good. The problem is that I keep telling myself that I'll never make it. Why am I like this? Fuck.

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 03:59:56 2018 No.11726611 >>11726558 Get a few winning promotions and you'll be much better about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 04:01:16 2018 No.11726620 >>11725601 Never give up! Find your "thing", don't stop learning. Try new things to boarden your horizon, like reading philosophy or works by great people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 04:06:06 2018 No.11726643 How to sell big ticket items ($10-20k) to other businesses, when in reality you're just making them in your garage?

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 05:16:46 2018 No.11727075

>>11720760
Yeah I'm certain I have it, explains a lot for me. Don't want medication either though, you can lose your creativity and at this point I feel like a lot of my personality (which I like) I've gained through living with ADHD.

There's also enough self-help shit online, and some of it's actually decent. I cant remember where but I've read good stuff, those links were always gunna be hit and miss cos I just picked off a very quick google search and only skim read them.

There's been some stuff that's helped me with my personal projects lately, but it's unrelated to this because it's not about gaining focus, more of a general insight into working on personal projects/being entrepreneurial.

Might get laughed at for this but its legit the last 2 episodes of HydeWars, if you don't find Sam Hyde funny then you might not be able to pull through it but there's some gems of info in there from his own experience.

Also he recommended this Scott Adams book 'How to fail at everything and still win big' which is pretty decent.

Telling you all this cos I relate to your problem and I know how it feels.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 06:14:48 2018 No.11727312
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>>11726643
make b2b unique interior design for bars and clubs.
Pic related costs 7000 bucks. I know a guy that makes much larger items and sells them for €20K or more. Bars always want to be unique, at least on this side of the pond. You will need a lot of creative thinking, and run around to find old items. Of course you must have some skill too.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 06:18:38 2018 No.11727332
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>>11727312
me again. Actually, finding vintage gear and restoring it for b2b is a good idea. It won't matter if it is done from a garage. Watch pic related for inspiration. Those lamps he finds get sold very quickly indeed.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Tue Nov 13 06:26:19 2018 No.11727365 For anybody looking to host their WordPress site DONT USE BLUEHOST

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Tue Nov 13 06:36:50 2018 No.11727403 what do you guys use to host WordPress sites? I would make one but I want it to look professional for AM approval.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 06:39:25 2018 No.11727423 >>11698555 >I believe discord killed these threads >here’s the discord guyz Literally never going to make it.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 08:01:17 2018 No.11727862

So I’m learning html right now, my goal is to learn html, css and JavaScript, to get into web development.

Im currently learning on w3schools, wich seem pretty good.

Any anon tried making passive income with web development ?
Would be glad to get some tips and helpful insight.

What do I do after I can Programm simple web pages? I wanna go into saas.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 08:31:12 2018 No.11728102
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>>11713964
>>11713883
>>11713778
>>11713501
Poor people use debt to purchase furniture sets and laptops. Rich people use debt to finance infrastructure projects with ridiculous profit margins since they will never be able to get their hands on so much capital even if they would want to. They use the profits from such projects to build into and invest into another projects and leveraging them with even more debt until you can almost touch the fucking sun. The difference is that you are 34k in debt enslaved to your local bank just to have some useless furniture and fancy laptops over what you can afford versus you are 74 million in debt but worth 600 million and you sleep in 14 k a night hotel room in NYC. Debt is just a financial instrument. It all depends on how much you are worth or how much value is stored in your assets be it public or private property. This debt free life is socialist propaganda. Everyone who owns any asset of a significant value uses debt over sale. Stock loans are tax free money. Even if you own a god damn horse you can most likely get a loan on it from somewhere. Start using the credit market wisely. Creating money out of perceived value. Half of the money in circulation is credit and some of you are trying to push this debt free meme. The whole point is to borrow and learn how to balance the books in your favor and no the markets don't crash overnight. Most of the problems with the last one started to accumulate in 2001. That gives you more than plenty of time to deleverage and reinvest your holdings. Remember the smart guys who shorted the market in 2008?

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 08:32:34 2018 No.11728114

Anyone know anything about being a freight broker? I work in the logistics department for a manufacturer and have been working with brokers. I'd say I have a intermediate understanding of this business but don't know if I'd be the best salesman. Is there still money to be made doing this? I also have a little programming skills so I'd like to combine that with logistics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 08:44:20 2018 No.11728195 >>11728102 Pure wisdom anon. Is now a bad time to be leveraging up?

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 10:06:59 2018 No.11728792

>>11724647
My dude, I know. Perhaps I worded it poorly. I've looked at examples and practiced a bit. I know you need the right tone, context, cultural significance, creativity, wit etc. I know you need to know the audience deeply, their worries, fears, vices, etc. I'm definitely not thinking you can write some generic shit like

"Hey, we know you're worried about x, why not buy our product today.You won't have to worry about x anymore"

, which would be garbage. Anyone could do that. More something like:

"STOP!!!
.
.
.
Here's some peace of mind. Don't worry, it's on us. We know you've been worried about x lately and we sympathize. We know how it feels to [symptom of x] and not know when it'll end. We know how it feels to [symptom of x] and stay awake at night. We know x, so let us worry about it."

I know it's not super amazing or original but I wrote it in like 5 mins, I'd say it's about average and has room for growth if I made it niche specific. I feel like I'd be at least above average soon after starting out and getting experience and I'd improve with time. I'd spend a while writing several samples, using several different formats, going over them, picking the best ones and doing it again until I strike gold.

Tbh, my reason for wanting to do direct response is mainly because I type slow as fuck (faster than average but still slow) so I don't wanna write just 1 thing over a long period of time and hand just that in.

Like you said, I'm pretty sure the hard part is starting out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 11:07:45 2018 No.11729269 >>11725342 I'm loving every thing you're saying. Deep down I know what you're trying to emphasize to us. I get it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 11:11:37 2018 No.11729297 >>11727403 >>11727365 They've been shilling bluehost everywhere. What happened man?? Also siteground gets a lot of love. Check that one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 11:16:17 2018 No.11729344 >>11728102 That makes a lot of sense to be honest. Robert Kiyosaki touched on that a bit in Rich Dad poor Dad. You explained it way better though.

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Tue Nov 13 11:16:31 2018 No.11729347

>>11723479
Of course its my opinion dude, it's all I can ever offer. I never said it wasnt. Helping each other make it is literally the embodiment of this thread. Sharing knowledge, experience, advice, etc is what we've done here. A cult is manipulating people for whatever purpose you justify is right. Whether it's good for the masses or not is not your choice to make over their lives. I think you mean more of a secret society than a cult idk. Go back and scroll on the discord what I read. A man or men who think their way is right and justified leading people ideologically but really just doing it to siphon their wealth, not help them.
>>11726439
>supporting our families
Not really materialistic. The buying luxuries is though. Manipulating people isn't really a "grand cause" either lol. A grand cause would be something selfless and helpful to others.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Tue Nov 13 11:18:38 2018 No.11729361 >>11727423 Nice input dude

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Tue Nov 13 11:21:54 2018 No.11729391 >>11728102 Thanks anon it makes more sense when you explained it like that.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Tue Nov 13 11:24:41 2018 No.11729414 >>11727312 >>11727332 This is a super cool idea! That steampunk stuff sells really well back east where I'm from. Another cool idea to think about

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 11:24:42 2018 No.11729415

I just read the latest news that Nintendo sued some ROM sites for $12m. So that must mean said sites were profitable enough, one anon in /v/ estimated that these sites earned $9000.00 a month.

With that in mind, my usual spic ROM sites are still up, and they upload the ROMS to MediaFire/GDrive/MEGA. So I was thinking on opening my own ROM site.

1. Would it be fine as long as said ROMs are hosted onto big hosting sites and not in my own?
2. Most of those sites, besides ads, use link shorteners for maximum jewery. Should I use them too?
3. I'm not looking for a big profit, but $500.00 a month would finally make me quit my daily job.
4. What's a good, cheap offshore host? Something like Emuparadise had.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 11:25:44 2018 No.11729428
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I also have a question on degree. I know this is entrepreneur general so it might not exactly fit in here but it is mentioned in the dropbox.
Bear in mind that I can completely study for free. That means this is only a time investment and I won't be going into any debt. I will of course be trying to do some part time entrepreneur stuff even if I do go study.
Is a MBA degree actually good? The guy says so in the dropbox but doesn't really say why.
What do you guys think about a finance degree specialising in investment? Seems good to me even if you don't go work with it. Or is it just a meme? Any other degree ideas?
Thanks for the advice, frens.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 11:35:32 2018 No.11729504 File: 1.02 MB, 1769x1200, I rede you right, gang ne'er at night,.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11707663

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 11:57:26 2018 No.11729713 File: 48 KB, 183x145, dont be a silly billy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11701761 >>11701995

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Tue Nov 13 12:01:12 2018 No.11729744 >>11729415 Do these websites just make roms or collect them and let you download them? How do they make money besides ads? Seems pretty interesting

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 12:10:41 2018 No.11729847

>>11729744
>Do these websites just make roms

They usually collect them and upload them to a third-party host and then you download them. Money is made via link-shorters, aka you earn $5.00 per 1000 clicks on a link.

I'll suppose I'll give it a try.
Now, I don't know jackshit about creating websites.

I was thinking on buying a GoDaddy domain, but I don't know what else to do. If I create a Wordpress webpage, can I upload it to my hosting/domain? Could I make the website offline (using Office, I don't know) and then upload it to my web provider/hosting directly?

I don't want anything flashy, just a little website with space for ads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 12:33:27 2018 No.11730093 Did the discord just die?

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 12:43:31 2018 No.11730192

I would like an opinion on this:

Become a bookie on some small country specific sports with 50000 - 200000 players. Adding to that scraping some football odds from big competitors.

Could this make me some money?
Would big bookies just scrape/steal my calculated odds?

Do you need a license?

No need to be nice

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 12:49:39 2018 No.11730246

>>11728792
>STOP!!!
>.
>Here's some peace of mind. Don't worry, it's on us. We know you've been worried about x lately and we sympathize. We know how it feels to [symptom of x] and not know when it'll end. We know how it feels to [symptom of x] and stay awake at night. We know x, so let us worry about it"

Bro that's patronizing as fuck.

>>11729269
>I'm loving every thing you're saying
I should just start a fucking newsletter.
*puffs smoke*

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 12:52:17 2018 No.11730276 >>11730246 Does your name DRC signify anything?

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 12:56:39 2018 No.11730327 >>11730276 Not in particular. Just Direct Response Copywriter. I wanted to use something generic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 13:02:03 2018 No.11730384 >>11730327 any advice on cold emailing potential clients? Would be greatly appreciated.

bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Tue Nov 13 13:03:16 2018 No.11730398

>>11729847
You should definitely do some research then. I'm sure someone here may come along and give you some advice but do a little research of your own to fill in the gaps. Maybe poke arpund rom communities and forums too. Sounds like a cool idea I hope you get somewhere with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 13:06:29 2018 No.11730444 >>11711990 >>11711717 helpin this anon out https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/ >take poll 1FAIpQLSehn8EzK3Z9t_pBQVp4Sr4gA-x1CCrCKvA7IyNq0vyeIBPjIQ/viewform >view results 1FAIpQLSehn8EzK3Z9t_pBQVp4Sr4gA-x1CCrCKvA7IyNq0vyeIBPjIQ/viewanalytics

young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Tue Nov 13 13:14:08 2018 No.11730548
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>>11727862
it seems like you know what you want to do after webpages. SAAS. you just have to find a niche where you can develop it and market it! Find an industry with shitty software and make it better.

>>11729297
I got the cheapest shared hosting plan they have, so that's probably my mistake, but still damn. every time I wanted to update my theme on WordPress my server would reset and I couldn't connect to it for 10 mins. The support and everything is good. they outsource everything so you're always talking to a Slav or pajeet. but its so shitty. It shilled a lot because they have a high referral rate. I think its $65 if you refer somebody towards a 3-year plan. Did you start your site already? your doing AM too?
>>11729415
search for bulletproof hosting if you're worried about getting caught by burgers. that's what dark web servers use and I recommend it for stuff like this if you really want to get into it.

>>11729847
idk if this is true but I read (i think) that all .com domains are controlled in a building in Virginia so if you do grow big, use another TLD, so its harder for government interference.
>>11730093
it was about damn time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 13:15:58 2018 No.11730568 >>11730548 Yeah I'm another AM anon. Have not yet. Working on some more articles. Good on you for starting! Did you already have some content to add?

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 13:17:11 2018 No.11730588

>>11730246
Hmmm, maybe. It could be shit or decent depending on the brand and intended message. It's just like when one person can say something and the whole room laughs vs another person saying something and the entire room goes quiet. I can find a lot of examples of aggressive or patronizing copy online

e.g. 'The man your man could smell like'
- Old spice

The whole nike-kaepernick campaign is a good example too.

Patronizing doesn't matter as long as it sells. I'd obviously do my research and target it towards the audience, but I wanted to give a generic example. It's also harder to judge if you're not the intended audience. I don't know if you didn't want to write a full response (understandable, you're not obligated to and this is 4chan) but "Bro that's patronizing as fuck." doesn't mean anything.

young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Tue Nov 13 13:28:52 2018 No.11730746

>>11730246
id hit that subscribe button hard
>>11730568
A friend of mine is writing some articles but I need to do my share too. I started the WordPress but then got gooked so I'm waiting for a refund before i make it again, but now I'm just coding the software to automate it as Affanon said.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 13:33:14 2018 No.11730807

>>11711990
You'd need crazy levels of funding in order to expand quickly enough. I don't live in the US but I've seen the gamestop memes.

What exactly would you fix and how would you present it? What would you do that gamestop couldn't easily do themselves? You'd be hard pressed to find VC firm that would even let you in the door. The marketshare of digital games is growing way faster than physical so that's where you should be looking at and that's where VCs are looking at. Nothing is absolute but I expect gamestop to either be done in by amazon and the like or bought out by a company that does better business. I think the former is more likely, after which they'll likely be sold for scraps.

This isn't a putdown of your idea in any way dude, but there are way better ideas if you want to do something related to games.

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 13:49:17 2018 No.11731023

>>11730384
Two approaches:
>SPAM (i.e. high numbers, low response rates, lots caught by spam filters)
or
>Hyper-Personalize (super-low numbers, high response rates, completely bypasses spam filters)

The way you do this is something along these lines:
>Subject Line
>Super personalized intro
>What you can help them gain
>Quick credibility building
>CTA

You can also mix some humor in there, if you're the funny type.

It'd be something like this, in practice:

>Is this an inappropriate question? (You want to elicit curiosity here)

Hi [name], I recently heard your interview with [podcast host], and I got a bit of courage from you mentioning [interest] - always easier to message someone when they like the same thing!

I'm messaging you because I help [their profession] achieve [results] - I already helped [previous clients] do [result]. I'm sure you can appreciate that this isn't very common, given that [their niche] is super competitive.

I'd be glad to talk further, if you're interested. Just reply with a quick 'yes' and we'll take it from there.

>>11730588
>It could be shit or decent depending on the brand and intended message
No, it'll be shit or decent depending on whether it tickles the audience's weak spots well enough.

Think more '7 Deadly Sins' and less 'muh branding'.

>Patronizing doesn't matter as long as it sells.
While I'd tend to agree, it's my experience that customers generally don't do business with brands they dislike. You can get away with patronizing in a long-form sales letter where there's a very good reason to be patronizing, sure. But there has to be a good reason for it.

>I don't know if you didn't want to write a full response (understandable, you're not obligated to and this is 4chan) but "Bro that's patronizing as fuck." doesn't mean anything.
Ok.

Check next post...

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 13:56:45 2018 No.11731123

>>11730588
>STOP!!!
Why? What's in it for me? Relevance? Specificity?

>Here's some peace of mind.
What from? What's the pain point? Relevance?

>Don't worry, it's on us.
So what? What is? What makes you think they're worried? How is this relevant to their situation? What's the benefit?

>We know you've been worried about x lately and we sympathize.
So what? Creepy. How do you know? How is your sympathy useful? Does it help solve the problem? Who's "we"?

>We know how it feels to [symptom of x] and not know when it'll end.
So what? Relevance? If you know how it feels, show it, don't tell it.

>We know how it feels to [symptom of x] and stay awake at night.
Same as above. Irrelevant.

>We know x, so let us worry about it"
Why? Why are you credible? Who's "we"? Why should I do that? What's the actual benefit? What are you even offering?

When I said patronizing, this is what I meant. You've no idea what you're doing, and it'll bomb.

Back to what you said...

>I'd say it's about average and has room for growth if I made it niche specific.
It's not average. It's actually... pretty damn bad. Now, I don't mean to be mean for the sake of it. There's a lot to unpack here.

Have a read here.

https://www.breakthroughmarketingsecrets.com/blog/this-20-point-copywriting-outline-was-behind-my-first-million-dollar-sales-letters/

Also when writing your headlines, use the 4U's.
Unique, Useful, Urgent, Ultra-specific.

"This ancient bee stinger can cure cancer in just 7 hours and 32 minutes... and there's ONLY ONE DOSE!"

>>11730746
>id hit that subscribe button hard
Might just do that.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 14:14:41 2018 No.11731360

How do I migrate a WordPress free blog onto a true, independent website?

I made this shit 5 years ago.

https://brawlminusmugen.wordpress.com/

Nice interface but nothing out of this world.
Let's say I want to put that into a different website.

So I would need to purchase:

1. A new domain name
2. Hosting service

I can get both of them at namecheap. My current issue is to translate that to my new domain.

Wordpress offers a plan with ads but it costs $8.00 monthly and since I will be uploading ROMS I can't be sure I will be safe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 14:22:52 2018 No.11731452 >>11730093 Are you gelato-man by any chance?

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 14:45:24 2018 No.11731670

You beautiful fucks need to try the Pocket app! (For iOS and Android)
https://getpocket.com/

I had no internet a few days ago. I read about Pocket letting you save blog posts and medium articles. So I downloaded it. Sure enough, I was able to read the blogs offline. Yay! But then my internet returned. Now, why the hell do I care about Pocket?

There was a medium post estimated 27-29 minutes long to read. Fuck that. Looked for a way to get it read to me. Pocket can do it! It has a text-to-speech reader built in, with excellent dictation. I only discovered it about an hour ago. So check it out. Medium is a fantastic place to get ideas and outlook about our futures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfgx01RrF8

>>11730746
i'm half tempted to wait til black friday to buy a domain. Despite the "Just start!" mentality we should share. But I did start! Just by writing articles, doing research and talking with you guys. I'm getting invigorated here. I just have not published yet. The benefit to waiting til black friday. I am thinking we can get some really good deals on hosting.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Tue Nov 13 14:52:34 2018 No.11731746 >>11731670 a pocket shill eh, yeah it's nice it comes built-in with firefox yeah im trying to start asap

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 14:56:25 2018 No.11731799 >>11731746 And I did not know it came with firefox, I'm on chrome only. I'm gonna install it then :D

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 15:17:17 2018 No.11731991

>>11731023
>>11731123

I mean, it's not a real product or company. I just wrote something, there's no backstory. I really liked the way you broke it down, but a lot of your points hinged on the fact that I pulled something out of thin air. Obviously it's gonna fall apart when you ask something like "who's we". I would've preferred to write about an actual product if I knew you were gonna break it down. I'll keep reading and practicing though.

Nevertheless, thanks dude, this helps a lot. You didn't really seem mean, it was real advice and anyone who wants to really learn something has to humble themselves. I'm gonna try to get into it and I definitely have a lot to learn. Can you show an example of what you consider bad copy vs average copy vs stellar copy?

What do you think of this: https://www.honeycopy.com/copywritingblog/2018/4/11/17-examples-of-killer-copywriting

Personally, I think number 1 is about average.

>>11731670
I used pocket frequently a while ago after I discovered their recommendation engine. Then they ruined it in an update by shoving in 'trending' and 'what we're reading'. Anyone know a good recommendation engine for articles?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 15:49:38 2018 No.11732365 Pocket is baller

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 16:11:24 2018 No.11732594

>>11731360
There's plugins which export content.
As far as hosting, if it's a small website, you can get away with free VPS from Google Cloud Engine.

Not sure about storage.
The only cost then is the domain name.

>>11731991
>I really liked the way you broke it down, but a lot of your points hinged on the fact that I pulled something out of thin air.
You'd be surprised just how common this is in the industry. If it sounds "good enough" and passes legal, clients legitimately will run such stuff.

But then it predictably bombs, and the writer gets bad rep.

> I'm gonna try to get into it and I definitely have a lot to learn. Can you show an example of what you consider bad copy vs average copy vs stellar copy?

Watch Kyle Milligan's recent youtube stream, where he breaks down the pot promo. He goes into great detail on this exact topic.

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Tue Nov 13 17:18:30 2018 No.11733277 File: 2.28 MB, 4032x3024, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Imagine being this comfy Pic related

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 17:28:53 2018 No.11733371 >>11732594 I did some more research and I think I'm getting it. Basically, substance over style right? And just doing what's established to work until you gain enough experience to get creative?

DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 17:37:24 2018 No.11733477

>>11733371
Substance *is* style.
Every word matters.
You only have several seconds to grab attention, promise something BIG, and lead them into the emotional enticement.
And yeah, pretty much. Creativity is largely overrated in copy on the low-medium levels, and highly sought after on the high levels, where the audience has already seen everything, and new ideas, new innovations and angles and hooks are what makes or breaks the promotion.

>>	bionic-handfag !!FGUY5Esr+9q Tue Nov 13 17:52:46 2018 No.11733614 >>11733277 C H E C K E D Maximum comf

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 17:58:48 2018 No.11733674 >>11731360 There should be an xml export inside your control panel. Then install standalone wordpress on your site, and import it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 19:08:22 2018 No.11734331 React is useful right

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:20:20 2018 No.11735068

Can someone explain to a retard like me something, I have dreams about starting my own business, but what I am absolutely shit-my-pants terrified is having that business fail and then being on the hook for thousands of dollars of debt essentially ruining my life. How do people survive business failures (reasonably speaking there is a chance this will happen) but how do people do it? If your business fails does the bank just take everything?

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:45:30 2018 No.11735334

Ok. I'm currently making an automated reporting software for social media marketers. It basically looks at the csv files of insights then produces a word document with general conclusions. I need advice on marketing the fucker though. I dont have much experience doing B2B marketing, but the plan is to get pitch meetings with advertising agencies in my area.

Anonymous Tue Nov 13 20:59:10 2018 No.11735475

>>11735068
You might have a simple view about what a business is. People investing thousands than losing it all is a story trope. When it's true IRL, it's from people who were usually unprepared or were not in the right mindset. There are plenty of books out there, that can help educate you about this.

A business is just providing value. Even on a small scale, running a lemonade stand is a business. Washing your friends car is a business. Flipping iphones is a business. All the way up to having a clothing line. Having a Or renting hotels/homes/properties. If you're in the right mindset, you're not thinking about failure either. You're failing everyday. You wake up and get to work at bringing value. As you get better at it, you can afford to fail with bigger capital. This is what they call scale. You aren't ever in any danger of ruining your life, because you understand what the exchange of value. Sure there is a degree of risk as you are operating at higher costs. But if you've gotten to that point, you probably know what you're doing.

You have to start at the bottom. Flip your shit, sell lemonade. Or Do the $100-$1000 businesses before messing with $10000+ businesses.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 21:00:45 2018 No.11735490 File: 1.67 MB, 720x720, UnluckyImmaterialCockatoo.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11735475 sorry for all the errors im really sleepy right now

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Tue Nov 13 21:05:21 2018 No.11735536 >>11735490 Get some sleep bud you need it to be productive tomorrow

>>	young poor fag !!f7JC1TMZDES Tue Nov 13 22:14:28 2018 No.11736202 bedtime bump. today was a good day for me it was freaking cold but still made the best of it. I'm just tired from the gym. goodnight buds hope to see this thread tmmr.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 22:31:51 2018 No.11736363 File: 1.74 MB, 740x1036, draphs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The site is going live soon But I have no idea how to monetize political analysis

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 22:55:27 2018 No.11736574 >>11736363 What the fuck made you think it's a good idea to start a website without a revenue plan?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 13 23:12:57 2018 No.11736704 >>11736574 I wanted to practice making websites

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Tue Nov 13 23:16:32 2018 No.11736728 >>11736704 Just... don't. It's a pain in the ass, and consumers don't give a shit how fancy or 'cool' your website is. Seriously. In fact, you'll find that some of the UGLIEST pages convert best. E.g. https://10xsecrets.com/masterclass-p

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 00:54:28 2018 No.11737343
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Just go into the writing industry. You can work from home in your bed in your underwear or naked. No need to live in an expensive city you can live on the country side. You can even use a corporation to avoid big income taxes since dividend income is free of tax up to 100 k for married couples.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 01:03:46 2018 No.11737394 >>11736728 Well it's too late. I'm just trying to figure out how to monetize my machine learning knowledge and a site seems like the best way.

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 01:11:31 2018 No.11737436
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>>11728195
>Is now a bad time to be leveraging up
The US economy is doing very good. Markets have the best returns outside EM. The yield for fixed assets like government bonds in US is still low and due to the trade unbalances and tensions the stock market is somehow correcting itself for the past 6 months or so. That makes it very interesting to lend to individuals in private credit markets. Especially with good margin returns or substantial stock returns. Think, giving away 20% of your project and you will get a fuck ton of cash for it as of today. The redbook index is maintaining a stable high. Outside the fucked up property market (high mortgage rates / low mortgage applications and low new home sales) fucked up in the sense of good luck if you are not rich, everything is pretty fine domestically. China and India is outperforming on equity markets in Asia. May be second to US. Europe is fucked beyond fun. Banks still hold garbage loans and companies have hard time to deliver on earnings. You can thank Socialism for that. EM are obviously booming, US is in strong recovery thanks to tax cuts and deregulation. Those are all good opportunities to grow your own projects. Once the economy starts to dive so will the market and leveraged assets. That is when you want to buy a farm at least 2200 acres and lease it to the solar power companies $400 per acre for 10 year contract and just yield over MIL for nothing. People need energy even during the downfalls, same with food but food production will yield you maybe 1/3 or 1/5 of what a solar plant will on the same acreage. Always use the public and private markets for leverage and investments when the economy is good and back the fuck back once it tanks. 1/2

Anonymous Wed Nov 14 01:12:36 2018 No.11737440
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>>11737436
2/2 Park the money in assets that are needed to exist for the people to not to die. Wait it up and sell / leverage back to the market once its hits the low. You buy all the strong stocks and assets that are down just because the holders needed hard cash not because the assets are not valuable. Those assets will yield you in 1000% in just couple of years. The 2007 stock crash was a dream for everyone who had cash on hand since all the cool assets were given away for bargain. Rinse and repeat. Nothing more than asset allocation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 01:35:47 2018 No.11737576 Keep hustling people

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 02:18:41 2018 No.11737864 >>11698555 Any europeans, like myself, here?

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Wed Nov 14 02:22:22 2018 No.11737888 >>11737864 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 02:24:19 2018 No.11737899 >>11737888 I surely appreciate your digits. As for me, I'm from Poland.

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Wed Nov 14 02:44:22 2018 No.11738028 >>11737899 Samesies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 14 04:29:47 2018 No.11738604 >>11738028 Good luck

>>	DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE Wed Nov 14 04:31:04 2018 No.11738613 >>11738604 Yeah it's a fucked up place right now, particularly since I'm on the brink of starting a DR agency, it appears. Not quite sure investment is going to come in, but if it does, I'll be very, very busy.

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