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Let's use our autism to figure out who is Satoshi Nakamoto.

We all know that Hal Finney definitely has to somehow be involved since he received the very first bitcoin transaction and that he lives like a mile away from a Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto. If Satoshi Nakamoto is a one-person gang then I'd say Hal Finney is Satoshi, but if Hal Finney is not Satoshi himself then Satoshi Nakamoto is at least a two-person gang with Hal Finney one of them.

I think Craig Wright knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is. He's either Satoshi Nakamoto himself or he knows that the person(s) involved with Satoshi Nakamoto gang is/are already dead, that's why he's so confidently coming out as Satoshi Nakamoto. Don't think he'd be stupid enough to embarrass himself if/when the real Satoshi Nakamoto reveals themselves. I guess we'll just have to wait until Jan 1, 2020 to see if Craig really is part of the Satoshi Nakamoto team.

Below are my guesses in order of likelihood:
1a. Hal Finney

1b. Hal Finney/Dave Kleinman/Craig Wright.

2. Dave Kleinman/Craig Wright. If these two are Satoshi Nakamoto then how and why did they pick the name Satoshi Nakamoto and why did they send Hal Finney the very first bitcoin transaction if Hal Finney is not part of the team.

3. Nick Szabo. I used to think Nick is the most probable but now I'm not so sure.

4. Gavin Andresen

What does /biz/ think?

>> No.11696320

Where is Sergey on this list?

>> No.11696321

5. None of the above. However satoshi is an entity who can never reveal himself for some reason which CSW is aware of

>> No.11696325

>>11696311
Vitalik's father

>> No.11696327

CIA
Also
>thinking it's a singular person

>> No.11696328
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It's Craig.

www.ohmysatoshi.com

It's all here. You're welcome.

>> No.11696329

>>11696321
why is CSW the only person that is aware of this? why aren't others that are aware of this "come out" as Satoshi as well?

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>> No.11696333

It's obvious Sergey Nazarov is Satoshi Nakamoto.

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>>11696332
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>>11696344

>> No.11696357

Rong Cheng from Elastos, or his friend Dai Wei

>> No.11696368

>>11696311
4b. Nick Szabo/Hal Finney/Wei Dai

>> No.11696383

>>11696329
1. No one is insane enough to get into a game of bluff
2. They are in on the deception

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>> No.11696406

Let Kek decide.
Rolling for Szabo

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Why is this still being debated?

Somebody already did a statistical analysis of the writings of people closest to the beginnings of Bitcoin and Gavin Andresen's writing is statistically identical to Satoshi's

Funny how you attach the least probability of it being Gavin though, this is about as much as I'd expect from a forum that's been expertly losing 80% of their shirts from endless shitcoin scams.

For further information, Google '"back-of-the-envelope" Bitcoin' and you'll get articles on what a shit job Gavin did at concealing his autistic , patterned turn of phrase.

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>> No.11696429

>>11696333
This. Who registered all smart contract domain names, and cryptlets related domain names before bitcoin was even released? Sergey is the mastermind behind this and this is exactly what he wants people to be arguing about. Satoshi Nakamoto= SN= Sergey Nazarov.
Vitalik, Craigslist, Szaboi and Finland are all puppets of the true overlord of the cryptoverse.

>> No.11696442

>>11696311
i think its a three man team between andreson, hal finney and wei dai.

its not craig btw. craig only came out as satoshi in the time of bitcore (which was another block size debate fork). he calls himself "satoshi" and then supports the bitcore fork way back in 2015 or whatever. and then there was the bcash fork which he comes out and supports. this is also why andreson said craig was satoshi because he was supporting the bitcore fork at the time .

>> No.11696445

>>11696311
It's not Hal Finney. Hal Finney's vision of bitcoin was basically as digital gold. It's inconsistent with the goals and ideals Satoshi had for his creation.

It could be Nick for all i know. 1b and 2. is possible. If Craig is involved, then Kleinman is certainly involved and there was some cabal of people. Likely more than just Kleinman and Craig.

4. I don't believe Gavin is a bad guy. I believe he is a very good guy. This is the main reason I entertain the idea that Craig actually does have possession of at least one key attributed to Satoshi and don't dismiss him outright. This is also why I believe that if Gavin is Satoshi, then lying about it and giving credibility to Craig would go against his principles and it would be possible to see in his expressions that he was uncomfortable with lying about it.

Whatever the case, Bitcoin is ideally abandoned and forgotten if ethereum nails POS tokenomics and game theory.

>> No.11696446

Real Satoshi killed himself after losing his private keys

>> No.11696461

>>11696311
https://cryptobellum.com/2018/06/04/searching-for-satoshi-nakamoto-is-turtle-coin-creator-rocksteady-also-the-pseudonymous-creator-of-bitcoin/

>> No.11696466

definitely not gavin or craig
criag has lied 100s of times and only produced fraudulent documents

satoshi left for a reason and if you don't know why you're a brainlet

>> No.11696467

>>11696311
Szabo/Finney

>> No.11696482

>>11696467
I agree this is most likely

>> No.11696488

Jez san

>> No.11696495
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gavin is a total fag
he meets with the CIA and since then only tried to fork and destroy bitcoin
if you don't see gavin and craig as glow in the dark you're an idiot

>> No.11696496

>>11696467
And Szabo handed the keys to the future to Sergey and possibly Vitalik. Still believe they were part of a plan and are working together. Pretty obvious Eth and projects on it go no where without Link. Literally 100s of teams is not a meme.

>> No.11696523

Its clearly nouriel roubini

Its completely unimportant and so is the name
If you think non mining nodes affect governance buy btc
If you think minining nodes affect governance buy bch

>> No.11696533

>>11696311
https://cryptpresso.com/could-he-be-the-bitcoin-creator/

>> No.11696537

>>11696311
Nakamoto = Central
Satoshi = Intelligence

>> No.11696546

>>11696311

Does anyone think it's strange that both Hal Finney and Dave Kleiman both died so shortly apart and so soon after making Bitcoin.

Has this angle ever been investigated. How the fuck did the majority of the SN team fucking die before Bitcoin even became a big thing?

>> No.11696562

Want to believe it was old Hal, but I doubt it. He'll be remembered long after most of those mentioned though. He's going in the history books that haven't been written yet.

>> No.11696579

>>11696533
>https://cryptpresso.com/could-he-be-the-bitcoin-creator/

the more i read this the more i think it's Hal Finney.

guess what Hal Finney predict price of bitcoin
$10M

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3045707.0

>> No.11696583

U guys sure it wasnt the level 100 wizard at ripple?

>> No.11696586

>>11696445
>if ethereum nails POS tokenomics and game theory

the only thing vitalik nails is his hand

>> No.11696587

>>11696523

Non mining nodes have NEVER affected governance. Ever. Mining nodes ALWAYS have.

Hmmmmm

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>>11696583

>> No.11696605

>>11696587
yeah because verifying the network isn't important in a "decentralized" currency /s

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>>11696595

>> No.11696635

>>11696587
Completely agree, but the people who dont should buy btc

>> No.11696662

>>11696605

You're a retard. The only thing you're verifying is your own transaction--- why would you need to do that? Do you not trust yourself.

The miners verify. That's what their job is. I don't want to route my corn through some idiot with 0.001 BTC in his channel, because his channel sucks. I want to transact on a network that has miners competing to make money so they can verify my transaction faster. I want power, not a reddit science experiment.

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>>11696662

Pic related.

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>> No.11696677

>>11696662
because if your a shop, you need to run your own full node in order to accept zero-conf transactions. if you are unable to run your own full node, you have to wait 10 minutes to see if a tx. is valid

>> No.11696698

>>11696662
Problem with mining is it's already centralized to a few big mining farms instead of everyone taking part even though we have the availability to download the client and mine. You need a massive amount of mining equipment and it costs ton of electricity. Not everyone lives in Venezuela or next to the Hoover Dam where hydro is cheap. Solar mining is also expensive to start up a good enough grid to make it worth mining Bitcoin. Bitcoin is essentially valued by the hash rate and difficulty it is to mine along with the limited supply and just what it brings to the table as a new digital form of gold. A problem in a sense is that Bitcoin turned from a peer to peer cash system to being invaded by traders and it's now a speculative asset that's halfway to being regulated and is in the hands of some shady developers who refuse to make changes that could help BTC scale and be able to handle going beyond $20k per coin. So many things to consider when you enter this field.

>> No.11696857

>>11696446
Kek

>> No.11697055

>>11696698

This is a good thing. Mining is supposed to be a massive and inaccesible endeavor; that inaccesibility is what keeps it secure.