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So in reality this board is nothing but a bunch of lazy incompetents who only want to make money without doing anything - or as they call it, "investing". What a waste. I had hoped when /biz/ first opened that it'd be full of hopefuls trading business ideas and exploring different ways to make money for themselves. You guys truly are pathetic. Not only that, every time I come here with actual advice and experience on how I manage to make a minimum wage on the side, I get shit flung at me.

Also it's so fucking obvious companies shill here and you guys fall for it like no other board. Holy shit get it together.

>> No.11672277
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>>11672264
what if we're the ones running the companies that are shilled on here

>> No.11672282

>>11672264
how do you manage to make minimum wage on the side?

>> No.11672286
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the wagecuck cries out as he strikes you

>> No.11672298

>>11672264
You sound like a real badass yourself.

Far to cool for this board i'm sure.

>> No.11672323

I hate those people too, but I'm also a 21 year old who's stuck in CC who's not even half way through with any idea what I even want to do, what hope do I really have but shitcoins? All I get told to do is kill myself or kneepads at this point. I have no fucking idea what to do man, I think about killing myself every night, I can't help you come up with business ideas, sorry.

>> No.11672350

>>11672264
Companies do shill here.

Go for something organic like Snowblossom.

>> No.11672388

>>11672264

A lot of us are invested in crypto precisely so we can start our own companies with the profits afterwards. The lamboland meme is just a meme.

Starting a company takes a lot of money, and getting investors, doing seed rounds, getting venture capitalists, angel investors and such interested ultimately means you wont own your company and you will be a bitch to shareholders and wont be able to do with it what you want. If you own a company 100% you are basically like a little dictator and can do what you want, regardless of the risk and such.

>> No.11672423

>>11672388
>Starting a company takes a lot of money, and getting investors, doing seed rounds, getting venture capitalists, angel investors
This isn't true anymore. Get an idea that's reasonable, purchase the LLC. and sell online. Granted this isn't something done with no money, just very little. You can do it with $1000 or cheaper.

>> No.11672433

>>11672264
How long have you been browsing here? How long did it take you to figure that out?

>> No.11672444

>I work for minimum wage and i just want to say...

Let's stop right there. If you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't be this upset, but I'll give you a tip. buy into cardano

>> No.11672447

>>11672423

Depends what company you want to make. If you just want to resell and dropship then yeah $1k could start you up. But I think that's a shit company idea and too many people are already doing it.

I need at least a 1MM to start up my company.

>> No.11672450

ITS FUCKING COPYPASTA YOU NEWFAGS

>> No.11672470

>>11672433
I was here when it started, browsed constantly then took about a year break.

>>11672447
That means $1000 extra! You fucking tool.

>> No.11672481

>>11672470
Sorry meant this at >>11672444

>> No.11672489

>>11672447
You could start a company and sell many products with $1k of funding. You're being incredibly short-sighted.

>> No.11672537

>>11672489

I'm not a salesman and have no passion for that type of business. I want to follow my passion and make money from my ideas. Not just trying to undercut other sellers.

I think there are a lot of ignored markets in gaming right now that you could make a good profit on as long as you don't go full retard and produce it with a AAA budget. AA gaming has potential to make a big comeback. But with making video games you need a good 1-2 years of funds ready to pay your wagecucks because you wont have any income until your first release is out.

>> No.11672597

>>11672537
You sound like you could open a studio that serves those markets, thus making you money. It's a fine idea and you deserve to do it, but where do you think you're going to get the money to do that?

>> No.11672606

>>11672264
>want to make money without doing anything
This is the end goal of every Capitalist, fwiw.

>> No.11672634

>>11672597

It's my life's dream to open my own independent gaming studio and work on small to mid budget games with a focus on quality and artistic direction over mass appeal and just hope good word of mouth and lots of positive reviews eventually bring us enough sales over the years to make a steady profit and continue making them.

I'm hoping Chainlink is more than memes and that will give me the funds to start up the company.

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>>11672597
>>11672634

BTW I will post some interesting pictures of popular games and their budgets, and indie games and there budgets. They are a few years old though I haven't seen any new versions of these images on /v/ for current games.

>> No.11672686

>>11672674
So is the idea here that the games cost too much?

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>>11672674


A lot of the really cheap budgets are made in Poland or other eastern euro shitholes which is why the budgets are so low. The other tiny budget ones are where the main dev was an all rounder and could program, to art and most stuff by himself so it was a solo project. I'm gonna need to hire artists and programmers though. I'm not an all rounder.

>>11672686

AAA games absolutely cost way to much, see pic related with western AAA's compared to eastern euro AA quality games.

>> No.11672782

>>11672694
To me a million is still too much for the first game of a new studio. I mean how much did it cost to make a lot of those NES games we love? I'd shoot for that if it were me.

>> No.11672845

>>11672264
yep, and you will be buying our bags in 2030. Stay poor faggot

>> No.11672881

>>11672264
You eat slave food and are a slave. /biz/ made me rich by telling me Ethereum is bad.

>> No.11672885

>>11672782

Probably almost nothing back then, and today almost nothing. But the market for 8bit and 16bit games is severly overcrowded and you are competing with people doing some mindblowingly amazing work in that area too. Like devs putting full physics engine into an 8bit game and each pixel has it's own physics characteristics.

Here watch this trailer for The Last Night. Upcoming pixel art game just like NES and SNES but using modern hardware drawing it at a much higher resolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4IPBiB7SF4

It looks insanely well.

Or check out Noita with it's pixel based physics engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFKpfpwgTDs

2D pixel art games like NES and SNES are a very competitive scene, and now cost mid to big budgets in themselves to hire all the artists (doing pixels is a lost art so it's a bit of a specialty now, 3D polygonal art is actually cheaper now).

Personally I am going to be making 3D games but not aim for PS4 tier graphics which are expensive. Retro PS1 graphics are getting more popular in indie games at the moment now too.

>> No.11672907

>So in reality this board is nothing but a bunch of lazy incompetents who only want to make money without doing anything - or as they call it, "investing"

It's not as 'we' call it. That's the universal definition of modern investing. Some guy at a desk losing money around on a computer. Or are you some moron who still thinks there is some kind of calorie value expended in labour tied to USD?

>> No.11672935

>>11672694
Basically minus the cost of developing a new engine and marketing, its all same shit

>> No.11672956

>>11672907
Okay that's all and well but you can't just have that job without a lot of money to start. Trying to wank your way into it is a huge waste of time.

>> No.11673001

>>11672956
they use other people's money

>> No.11673004

>>11673001
So why are you on here and not in college to get that job?

>> No.11673016

>>11672264
"I sell pins"
You're that guy aren't you?

>> No.11673017

nigga this is 4chan.

>> No.11673018

>>11672935

You can spend the time and money to make your own engine if you need it, or you can license an engine out to save time. It might be cheaper or cost more depends.

Like for example some developers recently bought a license for the old Build Engine that powered Duke Nukem 3D back in 1996. They plan to release a new game on the engine called Ion Maiden in a few months which looks amazingly fun. It absolutely looks like a late 90's game though but 90's nostaliga is getting strong right now in gaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CughxRfW5-Q

Personally I'd like to get a build engine license myself, or even the Quake 3 Arena engine (Id Tech 3) and make some retro late 90's early 00's games in a small budget.

>> No.11673027

>>11673016
Yeah I am

>> No.11673028

>>11672264
you somehow managed to get a job at mcdonalds on the side? Nice, that must have been hard work. Enjoy wage-cuckery.

>> No.11673188

>>11673004
>only people with college degree on finance related subjects should be able to invest from their computer
>if they do it it has to be their job
its the XXI century now, pleb

>> No.11673201

Not your personal blog

Kys

>> No.11673283

>>11672450
>COPYPASTA

>> No.11673544

>>11672264
Crypto is my side hussle, you faggot. It doesn't require me to expend any energy beyond buying the rumor and waiting to sell the news so I can get back to doing hobbies in my off time rather than spending hours doing menial shit for less than minimum wage.

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>>11672323
Hey Anon, I just finished cc and I don't know what to do either, hope your day gets better <3

>> No.11674162

>>11672277
Now that's some serious undercover boss shit right derr

>> No.11674169

>>11672323
Here is some advice. Go learn a trade and open your own business once you are competent and certified.

>> No.11674175

>>11672264
>So in reality this board is nothing but a bunch of lazy incompetents who only want to make money without doing anything - or as they call it, "investing"
Yes. Welcome aboard, glad to have you.

>Also it's so fucking obvious companies shill here and you guys fall for it like no other board. Holy shit get it together.
H-he actually thinks that companies care about this shithole and its 20 posters that stayed after buttcoin dumped. HE ACTUALLY THINKS THAT. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

FUCKING LAUGH AT OP

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.11674202

>>11673027
Lol, thought so. Here to impart some more financial wisdom upon us, eh?

>> No.11674236

>>11672388
If you’re a good business owner, you’ll be harder on yourself than any boss you’ve ever had working for someone else.

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>>11672264
Im 63 bucko im just here for the memes

>> No.11674529

>>11672264
>you guys fall for it like no other board
That'd be /v/.

>> No.11674567

hello sirs pls buy snowblossom coin very good investment

buy now or stay poor

>> No.11675136

>>11673018
Loved all your comments.

Old game dev here who tinkered enough with Q3 engine back in 90s (wish someone really create a retro-city with all 90s gaming stuff) to create indie games. Also created a web-based 2D game engine complete with 2D physics.

However a peace of advice. Game development is demanding as you may know and probability of success is limited. Moreover, it has a tendency to 'freeze' your awareness as your life slips away.

Nowadays moved myself out of gaming/game-dev (an addiction really) into following

- Economics / Crypto
- Modern Physics
- Spirituality
- Gardening and offline craftsmanship
etc.

Couldn't be happier. Best of luck.

>> No.11675162

tu culo pendejo

>> No.11675201

>>11672264
My name is John, and I hate every one of you.
Tldr; Shit was cash.

>> No.11675681

>>11672350
Fucking kill yourself you pathetic streetshitting curry nigger