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>republicans are good for buisiness!

>> No.11559722

>>11559682
kek. go fuck yourself OP. democrats are bad for everyone. democrats = regulation, more taxation, more welfare, more debt. republicans = less regulation, less taxation, less welfare, less debt.

>> No.11559737

>>11559682

>Brainlet still thinking in left vs right when it's really Big Government Vs Individual liberty(Aka white civilization)

low iq thread

>> No.11559744

>>11559722
how's that trillion dollar deficit + incoming recession going anon :)

>> No.11559746

>>11559682
>politicsthatwork

Lmao. What sources are these? KYS OP

>> No.11559754

>>11559682
>S&P 500 Performancy by president
>graph of %-increase vs time

how retarded are you?

>> No.11559773

>>11559754
its shills, /biz is full of them beware ameribro

>> No.11559784

>>11559773
>everyone who disagrees with me is a shill

>> No.11559799

>>11559682
How are you suppose to read that graph? is it the last 58 years and then the accumulated gain in S&P during each parties presidency?

Even if "this" is real, then this graph is just blatant retardation and makes no sense.

>> No.11560761

>>11559737
this, anyone who buys into "democrats vs republicans" is an absolute retard. I was watching fox news with my gf's boomer dad and the way that they frame everything as being an R/D binary is just absurd. You can tell that it's all been set up that way.
Also, OP's chart is fucktarded. What the hell is the X axis supposed to represent? And how does that answer to the fact that Trump has pushed us to massive new highs?

>> No.11560897

>>11560761
>massive new highs
>bear market continues
>i-it's the Dems/Fed's/Jew's fault!

>> No.11560919

>>11560897
did you even read my post, retard?
and do you disagree that markets when to massive new highs while trump was president? You sound so fucking stupid it's sickening

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>>11559682
>>11559744
obviously, problems with a lot of the modern republicans aside, are you implying that democrats don't regulate and tax the shit out of everyone to build a massive corporatocracy where a ruling few corporations that just keep on getting more and more massive are above the effects of the law and everybody else without enough money/connections cannot possibly compete?
the effects of this, of course, are that you have a few corporations that appear to be "doing really good" and "improving the economy"—but, they don't have to compete with anyone
they don't have to be competitive because all of their potential competition can't even afford to hire employees, so they're pretty much guaranteed a ruling spot (and fucking bailouts) no matter how shit they meet people's demands and how shit they treat their own employees
their returns get massive, even if they strictly deliver shitballs that nobody likes to everyone
whenever i hear a democrat arguing about how they think that the economy is good under democrats who push for more regulation and more taxation and more immigration i actually fucking cringe, because it's like they don't understand even the tiniest shred of a fucking thing about what makes money valuable

thank christ almighty for bitcoin and blockchain; i can't wait to either move to an ancap ethnostate, or declare my own and separate from these fucking gnarled parasitic tumors that increasingly infrequently look like healthy human beings who demand that everyone chain themselves financially (and otherwise) to every obvious trainwreck that they churn out and protect

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>>11559682
>Democratic Socialism walks into the bar
>"Pst hold my beer"
>3000% per YTD

>> No.11560978

>>11559682
GET OFF MY BOARD SHILL REEEEEEEEEE

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>party politics

back 2 leddit, muttoid

>> No.11561013

>>11559682
Kek

>> No.11561023

Why are there so many Brainlets on a fucking business and economics board? Economic client has little to do with who is sitting in the white house, in fact it has nothing to do with it at all.

>> No.11561083

>>11560970
Inflation in US is highest during republican presidencies.

>> No.11561105
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>>11560919
look at all this boomer rage
lmao at your life dude
it's not impressive to say that markets peaked in an administration if they ultimately end up tanking by the end of it, you should probably wait until the end of it before showing off about that or you might have to eat your words and it would end up even worse than OP's image

>> No.11561218

>>11561105
sure, but under trump the market has hit ATHs. this is undeniable. Your other post was also a woefully malicious misinterpretation of everything my post said. Seems like you're just butthurt about something you saw on /pol/ and r raging over it.

>> No.11561384

>>11561083
>My source:
>Bullshit

But, fact is US interest rates have been artificially low by Dems. Almost 0 percent. Now That is a fact. One of the few reasons why an Average American's savings is lower than ever in existence.

>> No.11561415

Imagine being OP
Still so angry that Trump won and did a great job
really, it's sad

>> No.11561437
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>>11559682
>toxic masculinity and white privilege is destroying our country!

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>>11559682
weird this chart says the opposite?

>> No.11561514

>>11559682
>democrats are hard on corporations!

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>>11559682

>> No.11562287

this is the most braindead argument.
you could only believe that "dems = good for economy, Rs= bad" if you had no understanding of economic cycles.
the idea that the stock market would perform amazingly every year if Ds were just in power 100% of the time... its why the term NPC got so popular

>> No.11562387

>>11562287
I think the real story behind it all is good leadership is good for the country and sociopathic retards tend to fuck things up. doesn't have anything to do with party.

>> No.11562414

data is heavily skewed, obama was handed an economy any brainlet could've fixed

>> No.11562438

>>11562414
It's not just skewed, its plain retarded. How are you supposed to even interpret the "years" axis? It just goes from 1-28, thats not how presidential cycles work....certain specific republic or democrat presidents were present for 4-8 years at specific year ranges.

>> No.11562501

>>11559737
White civilization is 100% Big Government and imperialism to improve the common good. Literal niggers in Africa and South America have barely any government at all, and look how they get on with their individual liberties.

>> No.11562517

>>11561083
>I don't know how federal interest rates work
>I'm also under age 30 so I don't know how anything because my entire perception is built around quantative easing
Just stop posting you naive fool.

>> No.11562535

The OP is literally just a graph of how much paper the fed prints during a Democrat vs Republican presidency.

Clearly no agenda on their part at all.

>> No.11562539

>>11559682
HAHAHAHA. Here you are able to see that once again dems are the real master race. Stop ruining my country fucking reps.

2 more years of shit #notmypresident

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>>11562539
See the post directly above you for the truth.

"But the media told me the president is who directly influences the economy!"

>> No.11562571

>>11560970
Let's be honest, how many socialists economies has the United States not economically sabotaged or worse?

>> No.11562745

>>11559722
>He still believes this

>> No.11562765

>>11559682
So from year 0 to 29 (kinda outdated were have 2018) there were 2 presidents at the same time. One republican an one democrat.

Interesting

>> No.11563049

>>11559682
Dems create a bubble thst than burst under republicans
Same shit now with trump
The obama 0% interest bubble is about to burst

>> No.11563075

>>11559722
what if I told you... that this is not the case?

>> No.11563205

>>11559682
Nice fake stats.

>> No.11564006

>>11559722
ironic

>> No.11564101

>>11559737
It's not just whites. Competent independent people everywhere want freedom. They are constantly dragged down by incompetent people and manchildren.

>> No.11564123

For Obama's entire 8 years the fed had interest rates at 0% and began raising them when Trump was elected. Totally independent and non partisan.

>> No.11564169

>>11559722

>Democrats=higher taxation, same welfare, more debt

>Republicans=lower taxation, same welfare, more debt

The reason to vote Republican isn't financial, because all they do there is cut a shitload of taxes on corporation and their rich donor class but spend through the roof and drive the country into bankruptcy. The reason to vote Republican is because you're desperately hoping someone will fight against the anti-white "diversity" agenda before the USA turns into a 3rd world shithole.

>> No.11564170

Putting an end to quantitative easing Keynesian bubbles is a good thing, yes.

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>all the drumpf denial in this thread

Do you REALLY think that huge difference is due to either coincidence or the Jews?

Seriously unbelievable. The same thing happens by individual state as well.

>> No.11564186

>>11560761

The only people who really believe that strongly in this are dumbasses who believe in the duality between God/Satan. It's just one more sick religious delusion.

>> No.11564187

>>11559682
>29 YEARS
How convenient, lets just gloss over the reagan/bush era and start at the infancy of the tech bubble. So we have only clinton and obama vs bush, clinton who was president during a bubble, obama who got in at the ground floor of a deep recession. No agenda here at all
Stop posting this every day

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>>11564187
Is this a joke? It is clearly going back about 60 years. Which college did you go to?

Seriously is this the power of drump supporters?

>> No.11564201

>>11564186
+1

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>>11559722

>less debt

>> No.11564209

>>11559744
Fuck I hope your doubles are right because I'm going to short the shit out of this next armageddon lol

>> No.11564213

>>11564186
socialism vs freedom is real though

forced collectivism vs individualism and voluntary consent

god and satan is just a metaphor though and if you dont get that then who's bluebilled?

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11564220

>>11564203
>trump is actually a conservative/capitalism
>trump isnt a corporate socialist

>> No.11564228

>>11564169
>>11564186
Did you forget to turn off your wifi for that second post?
>>11564199
>years: 1-29
Did you ever even try to quantify this yourself using any major index?

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11564229

>>11564169
Let's add

>Democrats= higher inflation, lower interest rates
>Republicans=lower inflation, parabolic interest rates

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>>11564229

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>>11564228
It is extremely obvious that it is referring to about 60 year's total 32 years of republican 32 years of democrat, so going back to the 1960s at least. What the fuck else does it mean, 2 presidents acting simultaneously lmao?

Seriously which college? Did you even graduate hs? This is why no one takes drumpfies seriously cause they can't do basic analysis.

>> No.11564285

>>11559682
>implying steep inflation via deficit spending is a positive

>> No.11564287

WHAT THE FUCK thread is full of trump shills

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THIS THREAD IS PROOF THAT TRUMP'S GLOATING ABOUT TEH ECONOMY WILL NOW MAKE HIM THE DE FACTO FALL GUY FOR THE RECESSION WHICH WILL PAVE THE WAY FOR SOCIALISM

DONT BELIEVE ME???

LISTEN TO THE GUY THAT PREDICTED 2008:
https://youtu.be/CGwZVhMyCl0

TRUMP PROMOTED THE EXACT ECONOMIC POLICY THAT HE CRITICISED ON CAMPAIGN AND NOW HE IS THE FALL GUY!!! JUST LIKE OSWALD HE IS A PATSY!!!!!
https://youtu.be/tsvud_CTRuk

WHEN SOCIALISM ARRIVES IN AMERICA YOU MUST SAY THANKS MR TRUMP

SAY IT WITH ME

THANK YOU MR TRUMP

(schiff is wrong about some stuff but he's fundamentally RIGHT about this)
(also i hope im wrong so you can trust that this isnt some kind of bias)

>> No.11564314

>not voting Republican to make leftists literally shake so we can harvest their motion to generate truly free green energy as living dynamos

do you even plan ahead bro?

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>>11564287
>trump shills

no one is saying that trump is good.. theyre just saying how dumb it is to think that keynesian economics are good

https://mises.org/wire/absurdity-keynesian-economics

>inb4 leddiot mises lel

>> No.11564342

>>11564258
>he doesn't know about the shadow president
>he still thinks he's going to make it

>> No.11564346

>>11561437
Could apply to christcucks and conservacucks as well though. To anyone really.

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>>11564287
>>11564287
btw trump is a socialist keynesian rat bastard so no matter waht you are wrong af

just cause republicans get caught with the hot potato that doesnt validate socialism

do you understand how when dems print money and people get sick of their other bullshit republicans are elected and then their market cycle which is greatly expanded because of the money printing catches up during the republican term???


THIS IS WHY DEMOCRACY IS FLAWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SOCIETY IS FUCKED

TAKE THE BLACK PILL

>> No.11564364

>>11559737
It's not really big government even if it's a component, it's actually globalism vs nationalism or rootless cosmopolitan vs blood and soil, consumerism vs tradition.

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>>11564364
>blood and soil

how about not being an authoritarian cuck??

how does it feel to fantasize about other men controlling you?

>> No.11564452

Here's some data from the annulaized return per president: Bill Clinton: 17.49%, Barack Obama: 16.25%, Gerald Ford: 15.57%, Harry Truman: 15.56%, Dwight D Eisenhower: 15.51%, Donald Trump: 15.38%, Ronald Reagan: 15.08%.

So it seems the graph isn't an accurate reflection of annual returns. However, such an analysis is ignoring other factors, such as the point at the business cycles Presidents resided, and also doesn't factor in inflation.

>> No.11564470

>>11559682

we have 100+ years of data to show that republicans are economic incompetents, and the economy does better under dems, republicans only care about and only know how to one thing: make the rich richer

>> No.11564494

>>11564169
>>Democrats=higher taxation, same welfare, more debt
>>Republicans=lower taxation, same welfare, more debt

the party that believes tax cuts actually create jobs does not deserve to have any say whatsoever about how the economy is run

>> No.11564499

>>11564432
>muh freedumbs

>> No.11564509

>>11564494
Anybody can create worthless jobs with government spending. Commies create worthless jobs.

>> No.11564549

>>11564509
"You pretend to pay us we pretend to work"

>> No.11564562

>>11559722

You just outed yourself as a Silent Generation Republitard from the 80s. It hasn't been this way in years.

>> No.11564590

>>11559682
dems and republicans are all kikes. theres largely no difference

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>>11564470
>>11564494
>the party that believes tax cuts actually create jobs does not deserve to have any say whatsoever about how the economy is run
lol enjoy your massive bureaucracy and horrifically inefficient workforce that never innovates or produces solutions to make work in hazardous environments less hazardous
>republicans make the rich richer
by "the rich", are you referring to the ruling corporatocratic elite that run the government-backed corporate monopolies that always push for people to vote democrat, or are you referring to hard-working people who, in a climate with less burden such as regulation and taxation that are completely unrelated to the question of how good they can meet the demands of their customers and employees, are more successful, and thus have earned their money?
lol i think we both know that you—just like every other painfully basic bitch NPC socialist—think that lower taxes and lower regulation actually equates to an easier time in dominating the market for companies like amazon and coca-cola. allow me to provide you with a more suitable response. AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i absolutely cannot separate myself economically and culturally from people like you fast enough

>> No.11564883

>>11560919
Trump has had no real effect on the massive force that is the US economy. Obama had much larger growth which is why Trump has had bullish markets but also doesn’t deserve credit. The president controls the military but has little to no effect on the economy during peace time. It also takes time for any legislation to have major economic effects so if Trump’s policies do have any effect we won’t see it until near the end of his term.

TLDR; Presidents are judged by economic forces beyond their control and no one person has much power over the economic activity of a country as large as the US (especially now that the international forces are larger than ever)

>> No.11564943

>>11564470
Shut up Trump.

https://youtu.be/rRndMiVIB-w

>> No.11564965

>>11559722
Can I interest you in some deflouridizing male ehancement supplements?

>> No.11564997
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>>11564499
>WANTING TO BE CONTROLLED BY ANOTHER MAN
>WANTING TO BE DOMINATED BY YOUR FUHRER
>NOT DOING DRUGS AND FUCKING BITCHES

faggot

>> No.11565025

>>11564997
fuck you nigger jew
HH

>> No.11565038

>>11559682
>republicans are good for buisiness!

Over look at that crowd of knuckle dragging morons should be obvious to anyone with a brain

Republicans are a coalition of crazy retards and their corporate overlords

Literally some of the most immature closeted masochists that do bad things with a secret desire to get punished for it

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>>11565038
democrats and republicans are all kikes
there is only one solution
>>11564997
you dont like nazis because germany didnt allow faggots

>> No.11565074

this is a business and finance board and nobody understands that nazi germany had the best economics

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>>11565025
>>11565059
>you dont like nazis because germany didnt allow faggots

im not the one that FANTASIZES about BEING CONTROLLED BY ANOTHER MAN!!!

>> No.11565100

>>11565080
that's not what national socialism is retard. you are living in a system that does exactly what youre claiming.

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>>11565074
u mad? faggot?

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>>11565100
how is authoritarianism not being controlled by another man?

>HURR DURR I LIEK DYING/SLAVING FOR MY COUNTRY

said every communist cuck ever

>> No.11565130

>>11565111
if you're not a kike watch TGSNT and actually research NS before you decide its bad and stop being a faggot. if you are, we're actually gassing you fucks this time

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>>11565100
how come the second in command was a giant faggot?

>> No.11565137

>>11565124
>NS is communism
you realize the nazis fought communism while we sided with it/adopted it ourselves
>doesnt know history

>> No.11565151

>>11559682
Republicans are just in the first sell off

>> No.11565153

>>11559722
>Being on /biz/
>Believing this

>> No.11565169

>>11564883
>little to no effect on the economy during peace time
Except for, you know, killing (TPP) and renegotiating (NAFTA) trade deals, using social and personal persuasion to boost corporate investment and employment spending, using statutory tariff powers to force onshoring of key industrial sectors, killing off active and pending executive branch regulation, and improving geopolitical stability.

Other presidents did little to help the economy because they knew little about the economy.

>> No.11565170

>>11565124
also
>authoritarianism is inherently bad
brainlet

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>>11565130
>TGSNT
seen it... obvious load of crap and the whole nazi meme started off as an ironic joke and you GEN Z NEW FAGGOTS started worshipping it like a cargo cult and I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED if some glow in the dark spooks started fomenting it so that you CHILDREN started to think that authoritarianism is cool and accept the police state

>actually gassing you fucks
it's irrational to dismiss circumstantial evidence and there's plenty for death camps.. you think people don't die at north korean camps as well?? It's fine to be skeptical but you have to accept the circumstantial evidence.

>>11565137
>you realize the nazis fought communism while we sided with it/adopted it ourselves

NO ONE KILLS COMMIES BETTER THAN COMMIES KILL COMMIES... HOW DOES IT FEEL KNOWING THAT MAO AND STALIN KILLED MORE COMMUNISTS THAN YOUR MAN CRUSH MR SHIT MOUSTACHE FAGGOT HITLER?????

AUTHORITARIAN COLLECTIVISM IS BASICALLY SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM AND THE NAZI PARTY REDISTRIBUTED WEALTH WHICH IS LITERALLY SOCIALISM!!!!!!

>> No.11565189

>>11564509
Meanwhile I drag my feet doing my job so I can get overtime and if I was to bust my ass working hard I'd get paid less.

>> No.11565201

>>11565185
>horseshoe theory
HAHAHAHAHA holy fuck
no point in arguing with u anymore cause your obviously either a lying faggot jew or so dumb theres no changing your mind

>> No.11565202

>>11565189
The difference is that your boss can fire your lazy ass to earn a nice tidy bonus for making this quarter's numbers.

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>>11565170
>authoritarianism is inherently bad
>brainlet
>the ends justify the means

HAVE FUN BEING SUBJECTED TO THE WILL OF ANOTHER MAN!!! YOU LITERALLY FANTASIZE ABOUT BEING DOMINATED BY YOUR FUHRER AND NOT HAVING INDIVIDUAL CONTROL OF YOUR OWN DESTINY!!! I CANNOT IMAGINE A GAYER THING THAT THAT!!!

IMAGINE SITTING AROUND ALL DAY CIRCLE JERKING WITH A BUNCH OF ANTISOCIAL OUTCASTS ABOUT HOW NICE IT WOULD BE IF SOME BIG POWERFUL GROUP OF MEN COULD BOSS YOU AROUND!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA (BREATHS IN) AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

HOLY SHIT YOU ARE PATHETIC!!

IF FANTASIZING ABOUT ANOTHER MAN HAVING AUTHORITARIAN CONTROL OVER YOU ISNT GAY KEKISM THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS!!! AHHAHAHAHAHHAA

>> No.11565213

>>11565204
you havent seen TGSNT cause theres literal proof that the holocaust is a lie

>> No.11565223

>>11565204
just so u know ancap doesnt work and cant work

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>>11565201

GOOD JOB NOT PROVIDING AN ARGUMENT JUST LIKE THE LITTLE LEFTIST BITCH YOU ARE!!!!!!!

MEMES =/= EVIDENCE

YOU ARE JUST PARROTING THE MEME THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN YOUR ALT RIGHT GAY CUC.K ECHO CHAMBER THAT HORSESHOE THEORY ISNT TRUE!! YET I PROVIDED A LOGICAL ARGUMENT!!!!

IF BMW DIDNT DO WHAT THE PARTY WANTED THEM TO DO THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?!?!??! THAT IS REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH!!

NATIONAL SOCIALISM IS ALMOST THE SAME FUCKING THINK AS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM EXCEPT MORE VIOLENT AND WITHOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PART!! BUT THE LARGE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS AND WEALTH DISTRO IS THE SIMILAR AS FUCK!!!

>> No.11565241

>>11565230
>not an argument molyneux xDDD
proof youre a brainlet

>> No.11565247

>>11565204
>HAVE FUN BEING SUBJECTED TO THE WILL OF ANOTHER MAN!!!

You are literally describing any society above hunter-gatherer. Didn't you have enough money to pay for the oxygen while you were in your mothers womb?

>> No.11565255

>>11565230
he also ends discussions with people he believes to be brainlets because theres no point arguing with someone who cant understand

>> No.11565258

>>11559682
I wish you were in that synagogue you fucking rat trash, get fucked.

>> No.11565261

>>11565230
>>11565241
watchu talking about - the more caps and exclamation points you provide, the more compelling the argument.

>> No.11565267

jesus christ - how do i short humanity like
>>11565258

>> No.11565274

>>11565267
dont, it was a good thing

>> No.11565294

>>11565202
>Implying the company would still be in business if me and my coworkers did what the boss wants.

Honestly its beyond regular bad boss shit and more comical exaggeration of a boss that has no idea what the fuck he's doing that seems too much even for a comedy show.

>> No.11565311
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>>11565213
>literal proof

WHAT?? INTERVIEWS? THAT'S THE SAME FUCKING KIND OF EVIDENCE AS WHAT'S IN SUPPORT OF THE HOLOCAUST!

WE KNOW THEY SENT PEOPLE TO CAMPS WE KNOW PEOPLE DIED THERE!! AND WE HAVE EVIDENCE THAT AT LEAST SOME WERE GASSED!! MAYBE THE NUMBERS ARE SLIGHTLY EXAGGERATED BUT IT'S STILL LIKELY TO BE IN THE MILLIONS!! FUCK TODAY WE HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN PRISON FOR NON VIOLENT "CRIMES"!

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHETHER IT FUCKING HAPPENED OR NOT BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT IT'S STILL GAY AS FUCK TO WANT SOME OTHER MAN TO HAVE CONTROL OVER YOU! THAT IS CUC.KISM!

>>11565223
WHAT A PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE A SOLID POINT ABOUT HOW GAY IT IS TO FANTASIZE ABOUT HAVING DAS FUHRER (ANOTHER MAN) HAVE COMPLETE TOTALITARIAN CONTROL OVER YOU! SURRENDERING YOUR FREEDOM IS SURRENDERING YOUR ASS!

Every authoritarian empire eventually collapses. Rome, Nazi Germany, the USSR. And someday our current empire, which relies on locking people in cages for nonviolent crimes, will also fall. Would you rather have children that require threats of punishment in order to behave or would you rather have children that learn to behave without being punished? Our system is holding humanity back! Like a crutch it’s preventing us from growing and adapting to FREEDOM and responsibility! People get lazy and RELY on government instead of learning to handle their own problems! But no one wants to declare anarchy tomorrow! We have an OBLIGATION to make sure we have as little authoritarian VIOLENCE as possible! And one day that will mean NO AUTHORITARIANISM! Imagine when humans colonize the solar system? Are we going to boss around another fucking planet or someone deep in space?

HOW DOES IT FEEL KNOWING NO MATTER WHAT STATE HAS POWER MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL STILL DO WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT? SUBVERSION OF THE GAY ASS LAWS WILL ALWAYS OCCUR! ALL NATIONAL SOCIALISM DOES IS STRENGTHEN BLACK MARKETS! WE HAVE ALREADY WON AT A PRACTICAL LEVEL!

>> No.11565339
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>>11564258
What makes that obvious? You’re making shit up. This is why I asked you to check the index. The only way to come up with a 166% figure is to completely discount the reagan/bush era. That’s just a fact. Stop being so fucking dishonest.

>> No.11565358
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11565358

>democrats are du-

>> No.11565359

"orange man good" the thread

>> No.11565363

>>11559682
hey /biz/, how do we profit from gassing /pol/tards

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>>11565311
>but it's still likely

>> No.11565404

>>11565311
>no trace of zyklon b in the "gas chambers"
>zyklon b found in delousing areas used on clothes/hair
>literal videos of the camps with swimming pool, soccer, movie theater, plays, etc
>only jews said the stuff about gassings
>most of the interviews claiming gassings are constantly contradicting each other/saying bullshit that is obvious fiction
>blackmailed people at nuremburg trials to say what they want
>allies added shit after the war to make it look like a death camp, chimney doesnt even connect to building
>typhus
>most jews died from it because of allied attacks on germany preventing supplies getting to the camps
>6million number made up and constantly increasing
>census data didnt show any jew deaths for years after WWII
>no records of orders for mass killing
>shitty building for gas chambers that wouldve killed the guards, could be opened from inside, had no ventilation
>few tiny ovens that can barely fit one body, it takes several hours to burn one human body with modern oven, jews claim they burned 2-3 in 15 minutes per oven
>gassing is extremely inefficient way to genocide, look at US death camps that killed millions of germans, holodomor, soviet union (all jewish facilitated)
>wouldve literally had to be killing jews non stop 24/7 for several years for the official numbers to make any sense
yeah, no evidence

>> No.11565417

>>11565404
also
>jew skin lamps and soap claims all officially debunked, still taught in schools as propaganda

>> No.11565424

>>11565404
also
> every camp looked into has been officially revised from "death camp" to "concentration camp" but ones not investigated still claimed to be death camps

>> No.11565432
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11565432

so many sad kikes and libshits attempting to troll us in this thread. so sad. they're trying so hard again

>> No.11565438
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>>11565382
YOU GOING TO ARGUE THAT COMMUNISTS DIDNT PARTICIPATE IN MASS KILLINGS EITHER BECAUSE YOU SHOULD IF YOURE GOING TO JUDGE EVIDENCE WITH THE SAME CRITERIA!! AND THE HOLOCAUST WAS NEVER PART OF MY ARGUMENT! EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THAT AUTHORITARIANISM REQUIRES THREATS OF PUNISHMENT TO GAIN ANY POWER AT ALL AND WE KNOW THAT AT THE VERY LEAST THE NAZIS IMPRISONED NON VIOLENT PEOPLE ON A MASS SCALE! JUST LIKE SOCIAL DEMOCRACIES STILL DO TODAY!

>>11565241
ANOTHER APPEAL TO YOUR SHITTY ECHO CHAMBER MEMES.. ANOTHER PATHETIC NON ARGUMENT!

>>11565247
WHAT ARE VOLUNTARY RELATIONSHIPS? PERSUADING OR COMPELLING SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING WITH ECONOMIC MEANS ISN'T THE SAME AS LITERALLY DOMINATING SOMEONE WITH VIOLENCE! THE LATTER IS WHAT PATHETIC FAGGOTS LIKE YOU DREAM AND DROOL ABOUT AS YOUR PATHETIC GAY BOTTOM FANTASY!! AND EVEN TODAY THE VIOLENCE OF THE STATE IS SUBVERTED ON A MASS SCALE! VOLUNTARISM IS CURRENTLY MASSIVELY SUCCESSFUL!

>>11565255
>who cant understand
SAYS THE PERSON THAT HAS NOT MADE ONE COMPLETE ARGUMENT OR LOGICAL POINT THUS FAR!! SAYS THE PERSON TRYING TO APPEAL TO AESTHETICS AND SUPPOSED SELF EVIDENT TRUTHS BASED ON WHAT'S POPULAR IN YOUR BIAS CONFIRMING DOGMATIC SHIT FUCKLORD SESS POOL CONTAINMENT BOARD ECHO CHAMBER!

>ends discussions with someone

IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE MOLYNEUX MEME, WHICH HAD ACTUAL RELEVANCE BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T POSTED A SINGLE FUCKING ARGUMENT, THEN THAT IS AD HOMINEM AND YOU'RE PURPOSELY AVOIDING ACTUAL LOGIC BECAUSE DEEP DOWN YOU KNOW THAT I AM FUCKING RIGHT!! YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE A FUCKING LOSER AND THE ONLY REASON YOU ARE ATTRACTED TO THIS IDEOLOGY IS BECAUSE YOU WANT SOMEWHERE TO BELONG TO!!! JUST LIKE A LEFTIST COMPENSATING BY CALLING SOMEONE RACIST YOU ARE AVOIDING ANY KIND OF SEMBLANCE OF LOGIC!!

ALSO NOTICE HOW YOU ALTRIGHT RETARDS CALL ANYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH YOU A JEW SHILL JUST LIKE LEFTISTS CALL ANYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH THEM A KOCH BROTHERS SHILL OR A PUTINBOT ETC ETC!

>>11565261
IM STILL RIGHT

>> No.11565445

>>11565438
ignoring my post about the holocaust :)

>> No.11565447

>>11565404
i wish they had widespread cameras back then, i really dont know what to belive. on the one hand i can see people gasing jews, because of how they behave. On the other hand some stuff makes no sense

>> No.11565451
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>>11559722
This is the kind of guy that gives you financial advices day in day out /biz/

>> No.11565453

The party of the working and middle class that hates on the rich increases wealth inequality and gives execs bigger paychecks?

Wew.

>> No.11565458
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11565458

republicans, orange man, gay men who want dictators, ammiright guys?

>> No.11565457

>>11565447
it makes no fucking sense, least practical way to genocide a population, and whites, specifically germans have too much empathy to carry out orders like that

>> No.11565464

>>11565447
>>11565457
jews on the other hand had incentive to lie and are known for doing so, watch the greatest story never told

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>>11559722
>regulation bad!
>sips flammable tap water

>> No.11565485

>>11565404
>When the holocaust didn't happen but you want it to happen again

>> No.11565503

>>11559682
So basically, dems inflate the stock bubble without really affecting the economy?

>> No.11565508

>>11565485
think about it, if it had happened, nazis would have the same reputation they do now, but we wouldnt have all the kikes trying to get revenge on every white person for it and the biggest problems today wouldnt exist

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>>11565404
blah blah blah a bunch of unsubstantiated bullshit without actual fucking sources.. you guys literally repeat this shit to each other on /pol till you believe each other.. YOU ARE MANUFACTURING YOUR OWN TRUTH!!!

no shit they might have exaggerated something but THE FACT REMAINS THEY COMMITTED MASS IMPRISONMENT AT THE VERY FUCKING LEAST!! I GUESS YOU THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING THOUGH BECAUSE YOU ARE SO INTO YOUR MASOCHISTIC DOMINATION FANTASY THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY LOVE TO BE PUT INTO A WORK CAMP AND SHIT ON BY YOUR BIG POWERFUL FUHRER AND HIS GROUP OF JACKBOOTED THUGS!! YOUR SELF ESTEEM IS SO LOW THAT YOU WOULD TRADE YOUR FREEDOM JUST TO FEEL LIKE YOU BELONG SOMEWHERE!!!!!!!! PATHETIC!!!!

AND THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT DEATHCAMPS!! THIS WAS ABOUT THE INHERENT CUC.KISM THAT IS WANTING SOMEONE ELSE TO HAVE CONTROL OVER YOU!!!!!!! THE GULAGS WERE STILL BAD EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NEVER CALLED "DEATH CAMPS" RIGHT???? PRISONS FULL OF NON VIOLENT OFFENDERS ARE STILL BAD SO EVEN IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO THE NAZIS ARE EVIL AS FUCK AND IF YOU WANT TO BE CONTROLLED BY SOME POWERFUL STATE ENTITY THAT MAKES YOU A FLAMING CU.CK FAGGOT!!!!

also all your claims have ZERO proof except some shitty youtube video with interviews as their evidence

>>11565445
look how desperate you are! you will do anything right now to not have to address the fact that it's literally fucking gay to want another man to control you!

>> No.11565525

>>11565508
desu they'd probably have a better reputation than they do now because jews embellish shit, and if nazis won the whole world would agree with them now

>> No.11565533

>>11565445
oh yeah and i said you would like to be dominated in a work camp but as someone that has been to bootcamp and dealt with grown men screaming at me for hours a day and what it feels like to lose your freedom, i cant tell you are the type of person to curl up into a ball the minute you feel uncomfortable and cry out for your mother and you would quit 30 minutes after you actually got a taste of authoritarian culture!

>> No.11565543

>>11565525
>responding to yourself

DESPERATE FANTASIES

>> No.11565544

>>11565517
there is actual physical proof for everything I said, much more so than evidence that the holocaust actually did happen, which is literally just a lie repeated over and over until everyone believes it

>> No.11565550

>>11565543
I was adding to my statement

>> No.11565564

>>11565533
ok zog boy

>> No.11565612

>>11559784
Not necesarilly. More like:
>everyones whose arguments are dumber than rocks and doubles down on idiocy as november approaches is a shill

>> No.11565616

>>11565464
>>11565457
still, hard proof would make things easier to clarify.

>> No.11565627

>>11564213
Okay, mark.

>> No.11565641

>>11565616
watch the doc, I have to leave the thread anyway
also read:
https://pastebin.com/TzZC78cp

>> No.11565650
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>>11565544
holy shit you are fucking delusion.. you're like a conspiratard flat earther

Youre making conclusions that are completely wrong.. like that they were all treated well even if some were treated nice and had a swimming pool.. but we know that some of them were worked to near death like in the mountain where they made the v-2 bombs and we have literally THOUSANDS OF WITNESSES THAT YOU WONT ACCEPT BECAUSE OF YOUR IRRATIONAL PREJUDICE against jews.

AND IT DOESNT MATTER IF THEY HAD SWIMMING POOLS AND WHATEVER ELSE!! THEY TOOK AWAY THEIR FREEDOM FOR NON VIOLENT "OFFENSES!" THAT IS FUCKING WRONG AS FUCK!!! IT WOULDNT MATTER IF THEY DIDNT KILL A SINGLE JEW!! THE IDEOLOGY IS STILL FUCKED UP!!

AND YOU ARE STILL A FUCKING GAY FAGGOT CU.CK FOR WANTING ANOTHER MAN TO CONTROL YOU!!!

AND IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOOO OBVIOUS HOW MUCH YOU DONT WANT TO HAVE TO ADRESS THE FUNDAMENTAL ARGUMENT THAT I MADE AND YOU ARE SOOOOO DESPERATELY TRYING TO MAKE THIS ABOUT WHETHER THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED WHEN IT WASNT ABOUT HAT IN THE FIRST PLACE!! I THINK THE CURRENT STATE IS EVIL AS FUCK!!! I THINK OUR CURRENT PRISON SYSTEM IS EVIL AS FUCK AND IS VERY LIKELY TO BE LESS AUTHORITARIAN THAN THE NAZIS!!!

YOURE JUST LIKE A FUCKING LEFTIST AND YOU TRY TO USE ALL KINDS OF ILLOGICAL ARGUMENT TECHNIQUES LIKE GOALPOSTING SHIFTING AND WHATTABOUTISM OR SIMILAR SHIT!!!

>>11565550
YOU ONLY WANNA TALK ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST INSTEAD OF HOW GAY IT IS THAT YOU LITERALLY DAYDREAM ABOUT OTHER MEN TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!

>>11565564
NON ARGUMENT

I HAVE TO GO NOW BUT JUST KNOW THAT YOU GOT BTFO!! AND ALSO ALL OF YOU ARE SUSPICIOUS AS FUCK AND I SUSPECT THAT SOME OF THE /POL COMMUNITY MAY BE ORGANIZED TO PURPOSEFULLY CONDITION YOUNG MEN TO THINK THAT AUTHORITARIANISM IS COOL, MAYBE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CURRENT POLICE STATE!! AND IM PRETTY SURE THE LEFT IS HELPING RECRUIT /POL/TARDS AS WELL BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE PERFECT FUCKING BOOGEYMAN!!! NOTICE HOW MOTIVATED THE LEFT WAS AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE???

>> No.11565658

>>11565627
what did he mean by this?

>> No.11565659

>>11565650
>calling me a conspiratard flat earther
this is a zog tactic to discredit legitimate conspiracies, dont listen to this faggot

>> No.11565754

>>11565650

omfg are you crying faggot? you keep talking about homosexuality, I'm starting to think you're gay. yeah, you're gay

>> No.11565785

anti-/pollers are some of the dumbest, tryhard, unfunny people on 4chan dear christ

>> No.11565793

>>11565659
>zig tactic

Convenient huh? Everything is a conspiracy against you? That's not confirmation bias at all.

Where have I heard this before

>trump talking points

But yeah that guy had a point and at least backed it up with logic. Meanwhile pure doing anything you can to deflect it. I'm not even political but you sound like a leftist.

>> No.11565811

>>11565785
Are you crying??

He had a point. If you want someone else to have dominion over you that makes you a beta. That's just how life works.

>> No.11565833

>>11565793
truth will out

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>>11564235
pic related
>>11565475
>have water that has always been flammable
>they start fracking near you
>claim your water is flammable from fracking
>profit

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>>11565458
Nah, we just want unlimited money for everyone for free, 2 billion genders and burn the constitution cause mah feelings!

>> No.11566550

>>11565793
>>11565811
>he disappears
>suddenly another ID appears that types exactly like him

Yeah you sure convinced me with your gay pictures and capslock.

>> No.11566571

>>11565185

>horseshoe theory except putting my favorite ideology where centrism is supposed to be just because

>> No.11566616

>>11566571
He is probably unable to explain to us what Corporatism is, and thinks that his funny cartoon and how it sounds like is evidence.

>> No.11566636

>>11566320
>ur water was always on fire dum dum
Wew the absolute state of brainlets chopping off their hands to save on gloves.