/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.11505518]

You will regret not buying this.

[Anonymous No.11505528]

>we

[Anonymous No.11505530]

delete this. normies don't deserve this one

[Anonymous No.11505996]

>>11505518
literally just set my buy order. hopefully it closes because no one is selling.

[Anonymous No.11506003]

>>11505996
what did u sell it at? ill sell into you

[Anonymous No.11506047]

>>11506003
I couldn't wait any longer i bit the bullet

[Anonymous No.11506062]

>>11506047
good luck dude
also i meant to say buy order not sell order. very tired i apologize

[Anonymous No.11506201]

The thing about ARK is that even if you compare it to top 10 projects, there isn't a single one that you could say it's better that isn't either vaporware, a scam or centralized garbage.
ARK stands above them by this virtue alone. 2 months from now ARK will be the only platform in crypto that actually works and has a moderate-high degree of scalability + all the tools that devs need to do their shit.
I wonder what will happen in 2019 when this blockchain everything craze is at the peak and every company wants to implement something fast:
a) wait for the scamcoins and vaporware to actually deliver a usable product
b) use something that is already available and works like ARK

[Anonymous No.11506206]

>>11506201
are u the same guy who used to post chick norris gifs in all the ark threads? haven't been here in a while

[Anonymous No.11506208]

>>11506206
nope

[Anonymous No.11506235]

>>11506208
how many ark u got dawg? do you think it would be wise to wait for a dip to buy in?

[Anonymous No.11506245]

>>11505518
no, you're just a bagholder. /biz/ isn't going to pump your bags, ARK is a shitcoin, bye

[Anonymous No.11506339]

>>11506235
ARK is not my main bag, it's just me betting on realistic technology with a high chance of adoption in the near future. Hype is good, hype made me money, but at this point it's time to hedge on projects with a realistic chance of success while waiting for my hype bags to become something more than vaporware in the next 1-2 years. I only have around 1.2k

>do you think it would be wise to wait for a dip to buy in?
The closer V2 is to launch, the less dips you'll see. Also most people that wanted to sell have done so already so it's unlikely you will see another significat dip anytime soon. You could wait and try to time it, but if V2 is as good as anyone says it is, these couple of cents differences in price that you'd get now will seem like peanuts.

[Anonymous No.11506694]

This thread has been discorded well for scalping rookies. Too bad interoperability projects are a dime a dozen.

[Anonymous No.11506712]

>You will not regret buying this
ftfy

[Anonymous No.11506714]

>>11506712
FUCK
>you will not regret not buying it

[Anonymous No.11506956]

>>11506694


>thinks it's just an interoperability project

stay poor

[Anonymous No.11507023]

>>11506956
What brings the token value outside of the airdrops?

[Anonymous No.11507082]

>>11507023
>Network fees - Transactions fees (dynamic & often refunded through delegate rewards), delegate registration, voting / un-voting & second passphrase registration
>Cross chain coin swaps & attributed fees i.e. ARK - ETH small fee to carry out the contract execution
>Currency - A currency to be used on the ecosystem and the whole crypto market. Hold Ark and interact with multiple dapps and smart contracts, without ever needing to actively hold those coins/tokens.
>Store of value - Ark can be a Store of value, volatility reduced thanks to widespread adoption and utility. Holders spend the interest gained from DPoS rewards keeping the bulk of their stack untouched
>Funding - ICO's & escrow type services
>Airdrops

Professor Frink about this for a second. ARK has the best blockchain creation & management tools & the best architecture so logically most want to build using it. Even FUDster moon.

[Anonymous No.11507096]

30 eoy

[Anonymous No.11507104]

>>11507082
I thought network fees are going down a bunch when v2 is released. The other points you make are okay but I think the fact that you don't need to hold any ark to deploy a push button blockchain is no Bueno

[Anonymous No.11507105]

>>11507023
Look at Ethereum

Imagine it's 10x easier to use.

Imagine every DAPP has its own blockchain that communicates with the main block chain, so some stupid cat DAPP doesn't totally break the system.

Imagine the next crypto boom, when every normy company wants to integrate blockchain into their business model. They will not hire a dev team to learn solidity, they will download Ark and have a custom blockchain in minutes. If they want to do some in depth projects, they can use basically any mainstream programming languages.

Then think that many Ark holders will be staking their Ark instead of selling it, creating intense buying pressure for people/businesses that want to create on the Ark ecosystem.

[Anonymous No.11507117]

>>11507082

I can't wait for that neet to announce his ICO on Ark

[Anonymous No.11507119]

>>11507105

the truth

[Anonymous No.11507183]

>>11507119
Fucking hell. OK I'm buying more

[Anonymous No.11507289]

[Anonymous No.11507378]

>>11507105
I've been saying this to /biz/ faggots for months. ARK markets itself as "wordpress of blockchain" as to imply that it will be used by neets in their basement. It could be, not saying it won't, but it has much greater value for companies that want to deploy their chains without going through the shitshow that is solidity or having their shit on a public blockchain. ARK is more similar to hyperledger than to other projects in crypto.

[Anonymous No.11507917]

BARK BARK FOR THE FUCKKING ARK NIGGAS

[Anonymous No.11508193]

>>11507378
Hey brainlet, what is the purpose of a company creating their blockchain with Ark? Since they're in control they now have a cappy database. GG

Next question: how do you benefit from companies that don't realise point 1? You don't.

[Anonymous No.11508282]

stop fucking pump ark I need to buy more bags CHEAAAAP!

[Anonymous No.11508365]

>>11507104
Thats the best. Build without paying it and if your ready burn a token to work outside

[Anonymous No.11508385]

>>11505518
>>11505530
>>11505996
>>11506003
>>11506047
>>11506062
>>11506201
>>11506206
>>11506208
>>11506235
>>11506339
>>11506956
>>11507082
>>11507096
>>11507104
>>11507105
>>11507117
>>11507119
>>11507183
>>11507289
>>11507378
>>11507917
>>11508282
>>11508365
deluded arkies.

[Anonymous No.11508387]

>>11508365
Hey is me. What do you mean burn a token. It still gives no value to the ARK you hold

[Anonymous No.11508604]

>>11508193
>this is what sheltered neckbeards actually believe
Hey fuckface, the Australian government just paid IBM almost 1 billion dollars to develop their national blockchain. Guess who controls it. It sure as shit not the people.
Carrefour also runs its own blockchain and many others will too. You know why? Because for practical purposes blockchain is a meme most of the time but it's a fucking good marketing tool that also solves a couple of small issues.
Expect a fuckton of other companies to start adopting the blockchain meme just to reach parity with the big boys. Guess what platforms these companies will use?
A percentage of these companies that will adopt blockchain will also find it useful for some aspects of their business. They will require interoperability between them and their suppliers/clients/partners/etc and they will achieve that through the ARK token.
ARK's business model will start to make sense in 3-5 years.
>build an easy to use platform that supports all the popular programming languages
>make developers life as easy as possible
>allow people to fork their own chain for their own benefit and theirs
>provide native interoperability through your token

10000 companies deploy their own chain with ARK
9000 of these think it's a meme and only use it as a marketing tool
1000 think it's useful
100 of them require interoperability and need ARK
That's one way this shit scales. The other ways is thanks to the fact that it's very developer friendly, it will attract some autists that will develop on it. You only need 1 killer app that requires interoperability to make the price of ARK go parabolic.

[Anonymous No.11508672]

>>11508193
also, who the fuck said that if a company deploys its own chain that it must also provide its own delegates. If you concerns yourself with the public opinion, you deploy your fucking chain, add a privacy layer on top and then let other faggots run your chain in exchange for $$. Hell you could even add a lottery system on top so that the delegates change randomly every X months.

[Anonymous No.11508679]

>>11508604
But you don't need to hold ark to launch your own chain. How would the price go up then fren?

[Anonymous No.11508703]

>>11505518

>"You will regret not buying this."

Translates as: "my bags are so heavy"

[Anonymous No.11508785]

>>11508385

[Anonymous No.11508797]

>>11508785

[Anonymous No.11508830]

>>11508679
you need ARK for interoperability with other chains. At scale it's inevitable that a percentage of the companies that deploy their own chain will require this feature. That's where the value comes. You could keep accounting on one chain, inventory on another and also communicate with the chain of your suppliers. With just the ARK token you communicate with all these chains. This is one example where it simplifies the logistics of a company tremendously. Hell you could even communicate with chains outside the Ark ecosystem and actually trigger a payment to your suppliers through some other blockchain that is more suitable for payments like OMG or REQ or whatever vaporware will be popular in the future.

[Anonymous No.11509373]

>>11508672
Idiot. So they're still picking delegates. Very decentralised.

[Anonymous No.11509410]

>>11508830
2018 and still believing in the smartbridge meme. That little text field sure is revolutionary!

Why did moon give up on Ark? The one delegate keeping the lights on has lost faith. I trust his judgement over yours.

[Anonymous No.11509687]

>>11509410
>2018 and still believing in the smartbridge meme. That little text field sure is revolutionary!
Cross chains are the most important thing in crypto. Nobody wants to go through an exchange every time to change to a different currency. If you don't understand why cross chains are vital to mass adoption, then you shouldn't be in crypto.

[Anonymous No.11509696]

>>11507917
*SNAP*

[Anonymous No.11509728]

>>11509410
Because hes a jew. Bitter, vengeful and greedy all under the guise of protecting his people.
>demanding a 6 figure salary, breaking the wage structure
>turning down money to gain sympathy and power
>fudding ark the platform hes building on to hype up his interoperability project
>solving network issues using only 12 characters and demanding abhorrent sums

[Anonymous No.11509763]

>>11509728
His fud is pretty lame IMO. Says V2 code is changed, but won’t say how. Also posts about how stupid the team is then expects to get hired

[Moon !MoonManSDw No.11509801]

>>11509728
Retarded post without factual basis. Ask Chang for more details because he doesn't want me FUDding here.

[Anonymous No.11509892]

>>11509801
you're not jewish?

[None !Chang/X74U No.11509932]

>>11509728
>>11509801
>demanding a 6 figure salary, breaking the wage structure
Most of the devs are eastern euros and get accepted salaries of 40-50k. An east coast american like Moon with his skill set is easily worth at least $100k and $100k was the number he asked for and the number he got in his offer.

>turning down money to gain sympathy and power
That was more pride than anything desu.

>fudding ark the platform hes building on to hype up his interoperability project
He unironically wants to build on Lisk v1 after we all saw how horrible Ark v1 was. Many, if not all, of the vulns found in Ark v1 are not present in Lisk v1. I advised him against it because I personally believe Ark v2 is better than both Lisk v1 and Ark v1.

>solving network issues using only 12 characters and demanding abhorrent sums
He got paid $10k for finding and reporting a project breaking -- not just network breaking -- bug that would have allowed any person with malicious intent to literally empty Binance's wallet. $10k was a fair sum for such an exploit. Like I've said many times, Ark v1 is trash and they should have never launched mainnet on it. They would've been better off doing their ICO/TEC and issuing ERC20s while v2 was being worked on. We're all lucky it was Moon that found this vuln and not anybody else or all our triangle bags would be worthless right now.

>>11509892
Technically no since jewishness is passed down maternally and only his dad is jewish.

[Anonymous No.11509966]

>>11509410
Yeah, a few months ago he was praising V2 and now he lost faith right on time to launch Exodium which coincidentally mentions in the whitepaper: "While this sort of feature is potentially an even bigger undertaking than the initial Exodium product specification, it is important to note that there are no immediately obvious technical limitations behind implementing these kinds of features, and allowing cross-blockchain triggers and "true" blockchain interoperability is part of the post-launch road map."

Really makes you think.

[Moon !MoonManSDw No.11509985]

>>11509966
Exodium is doing it because ARK isn't. Their marketing message sucked and was not coherent with their actual plans, which is how EXD came about. It's not a competitor to ARK in any way.

[None !Chang/X74U No.11510046]

>>11509966
I think you're misunderstanding what Ark wants to do. The whole reason of Ark's existence is to provide a codebase to be forked for other projects to build on. EXD is a trustless swap liquidity network like Bancor but for everything, not just ERC20s. They are not in competition.

We actually spoke to members of the team about the confusing messaging since I know a lot of people on here and leddit through Ark was some sort of magic interoperability layer when it was never meant to be such a thing. That's why they started pushing the "ark = wordpress of blockchains" meme instead of the smartbridges meme. Their goal is to have all Ark-codebase-forks be interoperable but that comes later and is different from what Moon wants to do with EXD.

Moon's lost of faith in Ark and the Ark team is personal, not some kind of calculated move. Many delegates have also "lost faith" or expressed their displeasure at how the Ark team has been handling things in private to me. There was an all out delegate revolt a few weeks back. Moon's the only one that is publicly voicing his grievances instead of just bitching in private because he's a hothead. The other jaded delegates and community devs are holding on for v2 and hoping everything works out in the end, including me.

[Anonymous No.11510054]

>>11509932
holy fuck

[Anonymous No.11510085]

>>11505518
I was a deluded arkie like you once. Now I'm not like you.

[Anonymous No.11510107]

>>11510046
are we still going to make it because of FX`s connections to the french and swiss govs?

[None !Chang/X74U No.11510162]

>>11510107
The whole thing about Fix/Ark "working" with the French govt is not entirely a meme.

Fix has been lobbying the French govt for pro-crypto policies. The Ark legal entity was formed in France as an SCIC to guarantee legal protections and access to the banking system by the French government in part because of Fx's lobbying. That is hard to do as a crypto "company" right now which is why Binance moved to Malta. This isn't secret information btw, just look on Fx's twitter.

>are we still going to make it
No clue. I'm certainly less bullish than I was a year ago, but I think everybody feels the same way for all cryptos, not just Ark. I've rebalanced my portfolio to be mostly BTC again because alt coins like Ark are too risky atm.

[Anonymous No.11510190]

>>11510162
What do you think is in the briefcase?
Top secret government related documents?

>Ive been following FX for some time

[Anonymous No.11510198]

>>11510190
>pic related

[None !Chang/X74U No.11510217]

>>11510190
>>11510198
One of the multisigs to the team's 3000 BTC wallet probably. :^)

[Anonymous No.11510377]

>>11505518
I already do regret it senpai

[None !Chang/X74U No.11511000]

https://blog.ark.io/ark-core-technical-blog-post-update-f4ea4c31904e

[Anonymous No.11511168]

>>11511000
Do you think that these fixes stated in ARKs blogpost are progress or just blabla to calm holders a bit?

[None !Chang/X74U No.11511185]

>>11511168
Progress and info to calm holders. v2 unironically looks good.

[Anonymous No.11511680]

Should I sell my ICX bags to buy Ark? Both are about interoperability, but I'm too much of a brainlet to work out the differences.

[Anonymous No.11511715]

>>11511680
I have both but have more faith in ARK

[Anonymous No.11512539]

>>11511680
Moon said Ark's interoperability is a meme and not even being worked on

[Anonymous No.11513356]

biz team good in trust and crypto experience

in biz team dev we can trust with investment!

ark scam but strong for new coin investment EXD!

[Anonymous No.11514167]

$30 eoy

[Anonymous No.11514331]

>>11512539

Perhaps because V2 is priority?

[Anonymous No.11514806]

>>11514331
Interoperability was the selling point a year and ago. All this PBC talk was secondary. Guess the team put it on the back burner because it really is a meme/not feasible. But that was how Ark initially marketed itself - connecting all the blockchains

[None !Chang/X74U No.11514841]

>>11512539
>>11514331
>>11514806
"Interoperability" is a meme because it's very hard to do but easy to slap onto your product and sell.

Ark's attempt at solving interoperability is by making it easier to be interoperable. They're doing this by hoping to spawn an ecosystem of ark forks and having all the forks use the same protocol. This is like sharding in ethereum where messages can pass between different shards that are effectively their own blockchains. Before this can be done, v2 has to be released of course.

Connecting other blockchains that all have their own rules is much more difficult. Moon's EXD project is an attempt to solving that by baking in BTC and ETH light clients into his chain's core code so the chain, by default, will be able to view the state of outside chains.

[Anonymous No.11515507]

>>11510046
yo chang what ever happened to that canadian faggot that scammed the first /biz/ pool? don't tell me he got away with it.

[None !Chang/X74U No.11515514]

>>11515507
Magnet? He got away with it. IIRC, he sold the few ark he had from forging before we kicked him out in december.

[Anonymous No.11515586]

>>11511680
ark literally just popped so you should make a decision soon. glad i got in last night.

[Anonymous No.11515632]

>>11515586
Where's the volume? It's not that big

[Anonymous No.11515676]

>>11515632
>/biz/ never gets in before gains
ok you can buy my bags a few weeks from now.

[Anonymous No.11515690]

>>11515676
Ok I will buy some on this breakout
Can you give me more of a technical analysis?

[Anonymous No.11516089]

>>11515690
You can just pretend I drew the meme lines on there showing an ascending wedge or something

[Anonymous No.11516247]

The time has come. I'm ready for my lambo

[Anonymous No.11516861]

Shill me on Arc RIGHT FUCKING NOW

[Anonymous No.11516936]

4k arklet here will I make it??

[Anonymous No.11517652]

>>11516936
no

[Anonymous No.11517958]

>>11515586
ARK will be sub $.80 tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.11519092]

>>11516861
i only look at charts. i would tell you what i see but i dont feel like giving away my competitive advantage just yet.

[Anonymous No.11519176]

>>11505518

[Anonymous No.11519311]

>>11519092
How about now?

[Anonymous No.11519471]

New ATH will be met before Christmas. Talkin satoshi wise, dear anons

[Anonymous No.11519767]

>>11506245

screen shotted for 1.5 - 2 years time when ark is $1000

[Anonymous No.11519990]

>>11519471
Why?

[Anonymous No.11520026]

>>11519990
Look at the roadmap

[Anonymous No.11520646]

Reminder that MIKE owns ALL the fucking ARK

He controls the entire delegate system and owns about 20-30m ARK
You arklets are hoping to get rich with 1k-20k, but that nigger santa lookalike has 20-30 MILLION

This coin isnt going anywhere unless the delegates take it over, and since Mike controls the delegate system, that cant happen. He just votes in his useless mates who are incompetent potheads (the conference pasta was right all alone). Its fucked unless he finds 300,000 deluded arkies to dump his ARK on

He is also a scammer on Skycoin so fools on you for not being woke and realizing what a scam it is 12 months ago

The founders made their fortune and now dont give a shit if the project continues or not

Lesson learned from this project is ALWAYS judge a book by its cover. One look and 30 seconds of that pothead stutterer Travis doing the presentations should have been enough to realize how shite this project is