/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.11439375]

>He doesn't grow and sell weed.
I only have 2 words for you: STAY POOR
You are PATHETIC

[Anonymous No.11439540]

Thats 5 faggot

[Neetgoy No.11439588]

Reverse image search.
Bro you couldn't grow a pimple in your face if you tried don't grown bud bud.

[Anonymous No.11439615]

>>11439588
>posting images of YOUR farm on the internet
novice detected

[Anonymous No.11439621]

>>11439375
What do i need?

[Anonymous No.11439625]

>>11439375
its illegal here

[Anonymous No.11439636]

>>11439621
seeds, a lamp for vegetative phase, a lamp for flower, a dark place, a fan to get the heat out of your growroom, soil and water

[Anonymous No.11439961]

>>11439615

>pretending to be retarded.

lmao

[Anonymous No.11439966]

>>11439375
>not being able to count
the absolute state of drug ingesting degenerates

[Anonymous No.11440035]

I realize you're probably in it to meme, but if not:

Please indulge me, costs, business model, distribution partners, seed supply, startup price, where and how to make the proper greenhouse.

[Anonymous No.11440058]

>>11439375

what is that fan for?

[Anonymous No.11440211]

>>11440058
Keeping air circulation to inhibit mold and fungal development.

[Anonymous No.11440478]

>>11440211
it is also great way how to push dirt from air onto sticky buds

[Anonymous No.11441271]

>>11440058
kys weeb

[Anonymous No.11441317]

>>11439966
>not binging cocaine and whisky
>not doing lines of hookers' titties
Not going to make it.

[Anonymous No.11441376]

>growing indoor pot trying to compete with all the legalized states that are growing 1000’s of pounds every 2-3 months and shipping it to non legal states.....
Do you even know what market saturation is? With Canada just legalizing it we will see prices plummet, the price on a pound of fire indoor has already dropped 1K the past 2 years, who knows where it will be in another year. There’s still a few years to make money selling it but growing and selling? Unless you are running a farm cranking out 250+ pounds a year you are wasting your time. Best bet is to find a Cali/ coloroda connect and have them send you stuff or find someone with a connect like that and buy from them and sell to college kids/ 18+ crowd.

[Anonymous No.11441828]

>>11439375
My father is in the process of building a cannabis cultivation facility. Projected production is 14000 lb/week (dry).

[Anonymous No.11441837]

>>11440478
what is a filter system?

[Anonymous No.11441846]

>>11441828
what sttate?

[Anonymous No.11441863]

>>11441317
i'm too poor for that lifestyle

[Anonymous No.11441864]

>>11441846
Won't say, but I can tell you that the only ones who survive in this market are the ones who can produce the highest quality bud and MIPs, at below $350/lb. If you cannot beat that, then you might make money for 1-3 years, but you will go under eventually.

[Anonymous No.11441872]

>>11441828
reported to admins, interpol, police, FBI and trumps office

[Anonymous No.11441892]

>>11441872
O noes!!

[Anonymous No.11442265]

Oregon Anon here that worked the industry doing security transport of cannabis and cash. There is a massive correction in the industry right now. Last year the state LEGALLY produced over 1million lbs of cannabis, but only 300,000 were consumed. 1/8ths are going for $5 in some areas. Washington and Colorado are going through the same thing. Any state that is going fully recreational will experience the same thing. If you want to make money, establish yourself before full legalization, work it for 6-8 months during the peak of hype, and then sell to a bigger operation if you can. Otherwise don't do flower, be a "value added producer" by processing it in to something else.

[Anonymous No.11442276]

>>11439636
and a fucking huge charcoal filter with fan or you will be busted during the first flower

[Anonymous No.11442291]

>>11442265
it's why most growers in Oregon are switching to hemp (CBD) instead. that is legal everywhere and much less labor intensive to grow

[Anonymous No.11442314]

>>11442291
Yup - I think the biggest request we had on deliveries was AC/DC which is a 50/50 THC/CBD strain. All these growers are of the mindset that they need to produce the most potent THC packed bud they can because they're stoners, and all their friends are stoners. The reality is that they are scaring away born again smokers who haven't hit a bong since 1999, and strains were shit compared to the stuff now. These new smokers get SUPER baked and then are scared off from cannabis. Growers are shooting themselves in the foot that way. Kind of like brewers and their IPA's

[Anonymous No.11442325]

How do I get a job in weed? I am in socal and know how to grow

[Anonymous No.11442350]

>>11442314
damn, i would like to try some 50% THC bud for science. but you're right, man. sometimes less is more

[Anonymous No.11442363]

>tfw want to grow weed really bad, dont even care to smoke it just like growing it
>tfw bought a grow tent and all the supplies
>tfw parents find the tent and ask about it
>its for tomatos h-haha
>freak out and disassemble it
>now have $500 worth of growing equipment just sitting in my closet, being unused

[Anonymous No.11442381]

>>11442363
are these your parents?

[Anonymous No.11442411]

>>11442381
yes. I even had a really decent grow going on too, they were 4ft tool in just 3 weeks

tfw
>need to grow and sell weed to get money to move out
>need to move out to grow and sell weed
JUST

[Anonymous No.11442415]

Im growing skrooms

[Anonymous No.11442429]

>>11439375
>Grow weed and sell it
>go to jail after getting eventually caught like every dealer
>grow weed and have others sell for you instead
>they smoke a huge portion of your profits or give it out free for blowjobs

Every successful person who's dealt drugs was smart enough to quit right away and invest their money elsewhere

[Anonymous No.11442453]

Is this you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41SMNOAiBJ0

[Anonymous No.11442463]

>>11442325

Go to the 7 11 in Adelanto and ask for Carlos, tell him Big Jim sent you

[Anonymous No.11442475]

>>11442415
patrician. good on you, anon

[Anonymous No.11442593]

>>11442429
>going to jail for something thats legal

[Anonymous No.11442676]

>>11442415
>>11442475
>implying there's a sustainable market in psyches
>implying that you could move the weight that you get off a single monotub

[Anonymous No.11442685]

>>11442676
Yea i can... even then they will keep dried

[Anonymous No.11442695]

>>11442676
>what are music festivals and concerts
you lack vision anon. there are plenty who want booms but it's rare to find them because they don't maintain potency very long without proper storage

[Anonymous No.11442697]

>>11439375
unless you are growing for to a seriously large scale distributor it isn't worth it. If it's personal and for friends then I can understand, but the real money is locking down a legit distributor.

OP is an 18yr old zoomer with a 400 watt HPS in his dorm closet. fucking sad man.

if you arent the jungle boyz then gtfo

[Anonymous No.11442708]

>>11442676
>implying psychs wont get more popular over time as the stigma surrounding them fades and they are used more for therapeautic purposes

[Anonymous No.11442709]

>>11442463
holy christ anon ***DON'T*** go to Adelanto unless you want to die amongst tumble weeds. jesus christ Big Jim you sound ghetto as fuck

[Anonymous No.11442710]

>>11439375
Who do you sell to?

[Anonymous No.11442725]

>>11442697
>jungle boyz
fuck them, most overrated shitheads in the market now. enjoy your pesticide chemical shit

[Anonymous No.11442758]

>>11442725
I know producers of quality that dumps on JB, but they are nowhere as recognized as the JBs is all i'm saying.

In the SoCal market you need not only amazing weed but incredible marketing. No legit distributor is going to pick up your bags unless they can hype it. It's either that or they buy it off you for pennies.

The life of a grower is really not all that its cracked up to be.

t. a grower

[Anonymous No.11442807]

>>11442758
You sell to strictly legit people? Plenty of money to be made shopping to non legal states if you have the balls, I know people who have been doing it for years and made millions.

[Anonymous No.11442845]

>>11442807
Rather be comfy selling legally to legal operators rather than risk all the hard work shipping to some pajeet in the midwest who fucks up your comfy lifestyle.

I understand shipping to non-legal states is where the real money is at, but imho, not worth it.

[Anonymous No.11442855]

>>11439375
If it was allowed in my country I would smoke everything lmao

[Anonymous No.11442870]

>>11442845
Completely understandable my man, as a Midwest fag I can assure you there are no pajeets out here catching packs from legal states. It’s mostly white kids, but hey if you’re making a living legally doing something you love why get greedy?

[Anonymous No.11442927]

>>11439636
>>11442276
And another smaller fan to take in fresh air (smaller so you create negative pressure inside the tent), and a standing fan blowing inside the tent to create a light breeze (makes stalks stronger, buds fatter, prevents stagnant air, fungi and mold)
And possibly what you need for automated regulation: timer for your lamps, humid/dehumidifier combo with humidity sensor, thermostat to regulate your fans and/or a heater unit for winter...

[Anonymous No.11443275]

>>11439375
>2 words
used 5.

I got 2 words for you: The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of pepe

[Anonymous No.11443370]

>>11442453
>UK is so gay they rap about having a tool

CROWBAH IN MAH BAG!
ALL FUN AND GAMES TILL YOU GET KILLED!
GOT MONEY AND MAH CROWBAH!
WE DON'T NEED YOU BACK YOU'RE NOT WELCOME! X3

fucking lol that was horrible.

[Anonymous No.11443574]

>>11443370
Morrison's a real G. He will break into your grow room and steal your crop. Better watch out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-17139565

[Anonymous No.11443611]

>>11441828
what does a cultivation facility do? growing, or just refining?

[Anonymous No.11443661]

>>11442758
meh you don't even need the marketing as much as business connections and local reps.
>>11443574
that's fucked up the killed the viet grower, not cool senpai

someone hire me on to your extracts team I don't do hard drugs and am not a retarded wook.

[Queue No.11443726]

>>11439615
>bragging about growing on a government honey pot

[Anonymous No.11443801]

>>11443661
CO2 extracts or bust. The state is going to come down hard on butane and other harmful chems. All the good extract companies are getting bought out by Canadian pharma

[Anonymous No.11443825]

>Start growing with small grow tent and 600W LED light for $500
>harvest a pound after two harvests, sell for $2k
>buy another tent, for flowering 5x5 with 2000W LED for $800
>have perpetual grow, can harvest 2 lbs every 2 months
>after one year, get $24k in revenues
>move to a house
>create grow room with 10k Watts of LED lights
>grow 10-20lbs every 3 months
>make $60k a year from weeds
>????
>profit

How smart is this plan?

[Anonymous No.11443858]

>>11443801
co2 is too expensive straight I think, it's useful when used in combination with etoh. But I agree pentane / heptane / xtane days are limited outside of a few labs. For real though we maybe shouldn't be fucking with these solvents to begin with. Regardless I always enjoy some good live resin.

[Neetgoy No.11443970]

>>11439615
Your a fucking moron.

Is it your first grow? you like to stay in one place for more then one grow?
Mate your dumb as fuck, you don't grow anything nor could you.

[Anonymous No.11443991]

>>11443825
I know a dude who did this and It worked out for him no shit

exactly this

[Neetgoy No.11444068]

>>11442314
You are new as fuck ain't ya.

It's 50/50 meaning thc and cbd content are the same amount.

They still have between 10-20 mg of either. Not 50% thc and 50%

You kids... Get back to making up memes and thinking about growing.

Unless you have top tier bud a small scale is pointless.
If you have mad amounts of weight, I can guarantee ya ain't posting on 4chan.

Op grew 3 plants and thinks he's a master.

The gubbment regulated weed here is the absolute fire.
Cured perfectly and you actually know what your smoking. Not getting names that the grower was lucky to
Remember.
>>11443825
Dude you do not stand a chance. It's not as simpl as adding water and light.

If you can harvest a quarter pound on your first run I'll be impressed.
And I'm not setting a limit to how many plants you can have.

You are very welcomed to have 100 plants but I can guarantee you, you'll pull less then a quarter pound of weed from that.

Growing good weed is not simple and has taken me almost 15 years to
Master and still to this day every grow something changes.

[Anonymous No.11444159]

>>11444068
look at this faggot lmao what a FAGGOT

I was a top tech programmer in a greenhouse in poland and automated a 10.000 Tomato grow. I literally had flying drones with night vision checking the quality at night, they even harvested automatically using a KI. If you think intels manufacturing plan was clean you havent seen SHIT this thing was all deep water culture with fucking spectrometers to figure out nutrient content bro no plant has ever seen soil in her life. I can grow weed on the fucking mars if I wanted to.

[Neetgoy No.11444223]

>>11444159
Bro, you show me. The proof is in the puddin.

You know nothing about growing marijuana. Oh wait, your just going to use their equipment to grow stuff illegally? yeah, company gonna love you.

Even if you had access to all that, I challenge you to grow a quarter pound on your first run.
No limit to how many plants you can have either. :)

quick tip, tomato factories are ideal to convert into pot growing operations but you still need to do the actual conversion.

I really don't give a shit about your history mate. We're talking about the now.

My challenge is super simple, I mean if it's so easy why not pull it off?
I'll even toss you 8 eth if you succeed.

:)

[Anonymous No.11444557]

>>11441828
>14,000 pounds of weed a week

I’m sorry but that doesn’t even sound possible considering it takes about 4 months for a plant to mature

[Anonymous No.11444672]

>>11441376

Is this a viable strategy even if you you don't live in NA?

[Anonymous No.11444816]

>>11444557
The cloning and veg is cycled and timed. 8 week flowering, but the facility will be turning over sections each week for constant output. This is not a difficult concept to grasp. Think of it like an assembly line, where by the time a plant gets to the end, it's been there for months, but a new set get to the end each week.

[Anonymous No.11444826]

>>11443611
In our case, growing and extraction/value adding

[Anonymous No.11444914]

>>11441828
>>11441864
>>11441892

>>11444816
>>11444826

why did my ID change?

[Anonymous No.11444931]

>>11444914
>outting yourself as a phoneposter

[Anonymous No.11444934]

>>11439375
I have a Vietnamese land-race I smuggled back home. Best strain I've ever smoked, make you want to dance and talk to people, it's really unbelievable. Only have on seed, but plan on cloning it and selling it as top-shelf product. Just need to get my supply up, will probably send some product to a lab to get it tested and then pitch it to the local dispensaries.

[Anonymous No.11444950]

>>11444557
>he think every plant is started and harvested at the same time

[Anonymous No.11444985]

>>11444950
14k a week is excessive. Month is cool. What's the head count gonna be for 14k a week.

[Anonymous No.11445086]

>>11444985
We have patents regarding this, so I won't go into much detail but basically we have a way of getting much more densely packed grow rooms than other growers. More product per sqft in the end

[Anonymous No.11445185]

>>11445086
neat. headcount is definitely huge though for 14k a week. agtech / engineering surrounding ag science is also fucking fascinating.

[Anonymous No.11445286]

>>11444672
Not really, it’s much harder to ship to their countries from my understanding, ask people who do international exchanges on the darknet though. If they say it’s relatively simple go for it. Pro tip wax/concentrates= less bulk and a higher price per gram. It comes with stiffer penalties but is much easier to transport, has less smell, and is more of a novelty than regular weed which will give you a niche above your average weed dealer.

[Anonymous No.11445521]

>>11442453
everything about that was terrible

[Anonymous No.11445542]

>>11444816
Yeah no shit they’ll be at different stages of growth. 14k lbs a week is still an insane amount, not even top growers like Northern Emeralds are putting out that much.

[Anonymous No.11445547]

>>11445086
how the fuck do you trim that much weed? also you should make ice wax

[Anonymous No.11445680]

>>11439636
no. this shit any idiot can do. what u need is capital. land . water electricity sun and manpower. beta manfaggoy

[Anonymous No.11445718]

>>11444159
this isnt impressive a greenhouse with basic climate and nutrition is all u need. otherwise growing weed with 1 million investment why

[Anonymous No.11445725]

>>11445680
>not running an entire grow op by yourself
beta

[Anonymous No.11446226]

>>11444816
I'm sorry to burst your bubble anon, but the number of growth cycles you can do will be the same, wether you do full cycles or dedicate half of your space to veg and half to flowering, or however you want to divide them. Rotating them that way only gives your manpower something to do in the trimming / drying room while the next batch flowers. It has no other advantage.
Assuming you cut both super short (SoG setup with like 2 weeks veg, 4 weeks flowering) you are looking at 42 fucking TONS of weed per growth cycle... If we go for the gold standard of 1g per watt, that's at least 42 thousand lamps you need.
And that's anywhere from 40 thousand - 60 thousand square meters. For an indoor cultivation facility.
Of course, it will be next to impossible to provide the level of care and detail that gives grow-tent plants that yield with an operation that big.
I don't even want to get into the electricity this would require.
So my conclusions is that one of the following statements is true:
1-You misunderstood what your father meant, and he was talking about open terrain cultivation and harvesting balls of hemp for fiber and seeds for edibles
2-Your father is a moron who can't run his numbers
3-Your father is a moron who can't figure out how to invest the immense capital this would require into something a little more productive
3-You are a LARPer

[Anonymous No.11446284]

[Anonymous No.11446310]

>>11442265
Medical industry is and always will be corrupt. Industry full of criminals and drug dealers. You think they will ever want to pay taxes and not sell on the side? Yeah right. I hope weed is always illegal. Only dude weed faggots want to walk into some box store to buy their weed.

[Anonymous No.11446453]

>>11442350
He meant "as much thc as cbd", you can't have 50/50 total cause there's hundreds of other cannabinoids in weed

[Anonymous No.11446481]

>>11446284
Do you shit on them as fertilizer?

[Anonymous No.11446491]

>>11440211
>fan pointed at open hoods
Yeah, no, the fan should be a gentle breeze on the plants for that.

[Anonymous No.11446510]

>illegal weed
>after canada just legalized it and now mega corporations are going to be mass producing all kinds of cannabis for consumer consumption
The black market will be pretty much dead in 5 years.

[Anonymous No.11446525]

we can only grow 4 plants and it's illegal to sell your own

i'd rather not get raided because tyrone got upset or something

[Anonymous No.11446532]

>>11446525
4 plants is beyond more than enough for any average person. If you and your friends are growing you got more than enough weed for all your needs.

[Anonymous No.11446537]

>>11446525
Which is why you put a bullet in tyron's head, the drug dealer way. AKA the fake legal industry.

[Anonymous No.11446548]

>>11446510
...in Canada

[Anonymous No.11446550]

>>11446510
>>after canada just legalized it and now mega corporations are going to be mass producing all kinds of cannabis for consumer consumption
>Over 1M Sq. Ft. & 200k+ Plant’s & 15,000 KG & $45M Rev - LOST
yeah these giant mega corporations are hella good at growing weed wow, definitely. perhaps they should learn to grow decent weed before scaling.

[Anonymous No.11446563]

>>11446548
And Canada will export everywhere now, legalization isn't far off for America.

[Anonymous No.11446565]

How can I grow weed if I live in my parents house and they think its still illegal and makes you go psycho?

I just want to have my own lil hydro tent to grow cool strains in.

[Anonymous No.11446573]

>>11444068
>It's 50/50 meaning thc and cbd content are the same amount.
>Not 50% thc and 50% CBD
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.11446575]

>>11446563
its still very far off, you cuck. thanks to brainwashed boomers and vested pharma interests

3 years MINIMUM before federal laws are even CONSIDERED to change

[Anonymous No.11446583]

>Breaks in your grow
>Steals your crop

Seriously though, how do you secure thousands of £ worth of cannabis?

[Anonymous No.11446587]

>>11439375

[Anonymous No.11446599]

>>11446481
Lmao no
Just a low effort backyard grow, still yields decent quality bud

[Anonymous No.11446618]

>>11446583
cameras, fences, 24/7 on site security.

[Anonymous No.11446624]

>>11446583
dogs
cameras
secure facility
don't let the kinds of people who would steal your shit know it even exists

[Anonymous No.11446642]

>>11446583
>Leave hints that you are biggest grower in the world
>Wait for Morrison and his crowbah to break into your setup
>Kill Morrison with a bigger crowbah

Your street get will be so big people will leave you alone for years.

[Anonymous No.11446658]

>>11446642
cred not cred. Sorry my gets here are legendary so I confused the two.

[Neetgoy No.11446842]

>>11446575
Nah mate. We are already exporting. Is it because your in burgerland you don't care to read news from other countries?
Hahah
We are weed country from here on in.

The weed is better then you've ever seen in your life.

[Anonymous No.11447258]

Its $300 an ounce for absolute shit in Australia.

[Anonymous No.11447462]

>>11446550

Holy shit this pathetic. Weed isn't that hard to grow.

Looking to start an op myself, but lack the capital for a decent startup (hybrid, blackout greenhouse). Who wants to invest?

[Anonymous No.11447480]

>>11442265

If that's the case, why is dank still 15-20 a gram in dispensaries in CO?

[Anonymous No.11447493]

>>11439375

[Anonymous No.11447561]

>>11444557

It's possible, but you need an expensive setup with multiple grow rooms.

[Anonymous No.11447570]

>>11447258
I disagree. the shit is $200 an ounce, anything you pay $300 or more for is guaranteed quality unless your dealer is a dodgy cunt
Australia has very good bud. We aren't as into the commercialization bullshit like the yanks but quality is quality.

[Anonymous No.11447572]

>>11440035
few hundred dollars in quality lights, air filters for smell, pots, soil and seeds and you could turn 3-4 plants into 1500$ every harvest (few months). would obviously only have to reinvest in seeds and soil and nutrients all very cheap. all the info on actually growing it and the equipment needed is on youtube.

[Anonymous No.11447577]

>>11446226

Pretty much, it'd take tens of millions and lots of pickaninnies to pull this off.

[Anonymous No.11447614]

>>11446583
just stay at home and dont invite people over
basically the life most of us are living now
growing is definitely best suited for private people

[Anonymous No.11447635]

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[Anonymous No.11447648]

>>11447635
second time I've seen an AI shit itself on biz this week
what the actual fuck

[Anonymous No.11447657]

>>11444223
any opinions on growing autos vs photos? just growing for myself, getting a little tired of the time investment for photos.

[Anonymous No.11447740]

>>11447657
my only opinion - afaik autos are generally less potent as they're crossed with hemp for the autoflower genes. otherwise decent and easy to grow.

[Anonymous No.11447805]

>>11447740
thanks, good to know. i've read the potency issue has improved a little but the yields are smaller.

[Anonymous No.11448048]

>>11447635
>>11447648
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[Anonymous No.11448054]

i am currently selling mdma trying to make enough money so i can start a few grow house before they decriminalize it in my country so i can ride the wave into legalization and become corporate weed in my country but my supplier keeps fucking up and i have to wait weeks to reup on MDMA

[Anonymous No.11448990]

>>11444934
Anon will dispensaries offer you $$$ for your new strain even if you grow (for science) at home to produce the strain without a cultivator's license? aka illegal. Genuinely curious if you know some industry insight. I'm in a rec state.