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Are you ready annon

https://cryptobriefing.com/nano-transaction-scalable-cryptocurrencies/

>> No.11434534 [DELETED] 
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>>11434399
>Nano has 756 TPS [1][2]. VISA can handle over 56,000 TPS [3]. Competitors work on 1 million TPS solutions [4]. Nano’s aim to be global currency is either delusional or a fraud.
>7,000 TPS was falsely boosted and promoted, causing the Nano price to skyrocket 97.7x in December 2016 alone. Real transactions per second (TPS) for Nano, however, was a meagre and pathetic 100-200 TPS [5].
>Nano falsely claim theoretical unlimited scalability, only constrained by hardware and bandwidth limitation [6]. This is as absurd as claiming that a car has unlimited speed theoretically, and the goal is to drive so fast that the car escapes earth’s gravitational field and park on the moon. Nano’s technical updates don’t bring it closer to the goal. It’s like saying the improvements on the engine of the car has brought us closer to driving to the moon.
>Nano advocates like to use average demand as benchmark for needed TPS. This is false. Who will use a currency that will crash at every emergency, at Christmas and other holidays?
>Nano (Raiblocks) was a dead amateur coin, worth less than 10 cents less than a year ago, until it was discovered and pumped hard by Italian scammers. Only after the pump did Nano full time dev. This amateur project has had a full-time dev for less than a year, with a horrific team and management picked among incompetent friends and supporters.
>Lead devs are leaving Nano. Insiders obviously know Nano is riddled with terminal flaws and structural problems. Insiders obviously know Nano is riddled with terminal flaws and structural problems.
>Devs are dumping Nano on the market [7]. Insiders obviously know Nano is riddled with terminal flaws and structural problems.

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What good is this if it’s able to be controlled. Hence concerns of China with its Bitcoin and Ethereum mining contributions that give it the majority of power. It’s not decentralized. And I just skimmed the FAQs and this in itself to pic related is something that also can be controlled/influenced.

>> No.11434541 [DELETED] 

>>11434534 (Cont.)
>Constant node issues. Withdrawals/deposits suspended on several exchanges due to security and stability issues, multiple times, every single month. All exchanges down less than 6 weeks ago [8]. Kucoin less than 3 weeks ago [9]. Another failed update and node crash this week [10][11]. This despite being miles behind having any sort of global currency traffic. Nano could be years away from even having the potential to be a well-functioning global currency.
>Coinbase will only use coins stable for multiple months. Nano is far away from that, see above and [8] [9] [10] [11]. Coinbase will also stay away from a coin riddled with legal problems [7] [12]. Best case scenario is having Nano on Coinbase late 2019, if at all, leaving Nano hopelessly behind other cryptocurrencies.
>One single miner can destroy the network via DDoS with 500 GPUs at no cost [13] [14]. A critical attack vector never seriously addressed by the Nano dev team. Having the problem highlighted to them, admitting to it, their response has been the usual -to promise and deflect -without providing any real technical solution. Nano is wide open for a massive spam attack crippling the network for a long time. This also scares the Coinbase experts; a total crash in Nano, via spam vulnerability and insane node issues, will reflect badly on Coinbase.
>Nano team seem like tech amateurs. Don’t understand the difference between Random (not cryptographically secure) and SecureRandom. Don’t even understand basic cryptography. A disaster in waiting.

>> No.11434545

>>11434534
oh god r you going to ruin this thread again too.. man you are such a fucking loser.

>> No.11434550 [DELETED] 

>>11434541 (Cont.)
>Former head of engineering at Facebook, Bryan Veloso: Nano "just a hype...no real use case" [16]. Currently NANO is only processing 0.15 transactions per second. Transactions have gone down in the last months. Extreme low usage combined with a very speculative 90x pump in just one month, causing a flash crash, are all indicators of a coin with pure hype and speculation, without any real value. Bryan Veloso’s claim that Nano is just hype with no real use cases is validated by empirical data.
>Charlie Lee, creator of Litecoin: “Nano will have a hard time being decentralized... It won't be as uncensorable as Bitcoin or Litecoin” [17]. “Nano is not without faults...it has a LONG way to go” [18].
>Millions of USD sold from the Nano Developer Wallet lately, at extremely low prices. Not a good sign that devs are dumping Nano in a fire sale [15].
>Nano team marketing strategy is to have no marketing strategy.
>Nano team adoption strategy is to have no adoption strategy.
>Nano’s essentially following same strategy as Betamax vs VHS and HD vs BluRay.
>First coin on Amazon, eBay, etc. will be the global currency. Nano’s avoiding partnership. Nano’s publicly stated “strategy” is to not seek strategic partnership, basis being that USD has no partnership as a currency, so why should Nano have one. Ridiculous.
>Dev fund is dangerously low, they may burn through it in a matter of 1-3 years [15]. Also, multiple pending and coming lawsuits against the Nano foundation.
>100 addresses hold 65% of all 133 million Nano. Initial distribution to friends of developers, nontransparent distribution method. Who solved the captchas? Where is the audit? Extreme centralization that only got worse with BitGrail, where large holders of Nano (including devs/friends of devs) managed illegally and unethically to get out of the insolvent exchange, leaving normal investors behind to take an 80% loss.

>> No.11434559 [DELETED] 

>>11434550
> 51.27% voting weight, held in 6 addresses, opens vulnerability to devastating 51% attacks.
>Flawed structure, currently insane 92% of the voting power in the top 1% of the nodes only [19].
>No smart contracts. Masternode coins utilizing high capacity data contracts on their second layer are the future. Nano can't do any of this, it cannot compete with other coins.
>Must run expensive nodes for free. A borderline insane and untested business model that will most likely crash the network. Even if it worked, no matter how unlikely, with full adaption the cost of running a node would be astronomical, leading to extreme centralization. Having again the elites controlling our money must be avoided. No financial incentives for DPOS representatives to keep securing the network.
>Same whales that pumped and dumped Nano first time (-98% from ATH), pumped again. Failing to pump further, will result in a dump again, very soon. The delusional Nano hodlers will be stripped of their money again.
>70% centralization of all Nano, due to Nano original developers setting default node to their own.
>The code hasn't even been audited by an established software security company.
>Nano is permissioned and non-trustless [20]
>Going from UDP to TCP too late and too slowly [21]
>90% of github commits by only one person (Colin) in the whole “team”.
>Hired pretty girl, G. Coxton, who’s done nothing. Why’s she not on YouTube pushing Nano?
>Nano team are business amateurs. Pushed BitGrail when clearly a dangerous exchange. Guaranteed bomber as a good guy. Rebranded to Nano right before BitGrail exploded. Retarded decision. Marketing disaster.

>> No.11434560

>>11434550
loser

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>>11434559
Weaponized autism , stale pasta bro.

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>>11434545
>>11434560
Get lost fucking nano loser. Can you address my points, loser?

>> No.11434591 [DELETED] 

>>11434559 (Cont.)
>Nano has no ‘human face’ for people to connect with, it’s just an empty logo. Unlike other top 10 coins – e.g. Ethereum has Vitalik, Tron has Justin Sun, Litecoin had Charlie Lee. NEO has Da Hong Fei. EOS has Dan L. etc.
>Nano has post Bitgrail probably the worst community in crypto [22][23], much of it due to the Nano teams catastrophic handling of the Bitgrail crash.>There are many other coins that are far better than Nano, with instant transactions, zero fees, near infinite scalability, near infinite decentralization, permissionlessness and trustlessness, 1 millionth the energy usage of Bitcoin [24][25][26]. Nano is an extremely risky investment [27]
>Posted some of the above questions on Nano subreddit. Got banned.
>Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano devs personally and Nano foundation. Ugly truths about the Nano team, Nano devs and Bitgrail will come out [12][7]. It could lead to bankruptcy and a total shut down of the project.
>Anyone investing in this documented shitcoin deserves to lose their money. Nano is Bitconnect 2.0

FOOTNOTES:
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/982bq9/stress_test_beta_network_v15_results_in_here/
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/98alqy/why_isnt_stress_test_result_published_as_5700_tps/
[3] https://www.accenture.com/no-en/success-visa-connected-commerce-car
[4] https://www.ccn.com/vitalik-buterin-ethereum-will-eventually-achieve-1-million-transactions-per-second/
[5] http://archive.is/iq9fP
[6] https://nano.org/en/whitepaper
[7] http://archive.is/lDoCW
[8] http://archive.fo/v2noA
[9] https://news.kucoin.com/en/nano-deposits-and-withdrawals-are-now-enabled/
[10] https://medium.com/nanocurrency/weekly-nano-update-9-17-18-834f3a493994
[11] https://www.reddit.com/r/BinanceExchange/comments/9flnx5/is_nano_deposit_broken_someone_also_having/
[12] http://archive.is/dOMVA
[13] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanotrade/comments/7vwl86/what_are_the_faults_of_nano/dtvpymd/

>> No.11434599 [DELETED] 

>>11434591 (Cont.)
[14] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/90wu2v/what_are_the_negative_things_with_nano/e2tskr8/
[15] https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_1ipx847tk8o46pwxt5qjdbncjqcbwcc1rrmqnkztrfjy5k7z4imsrata9est
[16] https://www.quora.com/Is-the-NANO-crypto-coin-a-working-product-If-so-what-advantage-does-it-have-over-on-other-crypto-coins
[17] http://archive.is/e7oVV
[18] http://archive.is/GvyPd
[19] https://www.nanode.co/representatives
[20] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/92b1at/how_does_nanos_dpos_compare_to_other_dpos_such_as/
[21] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/8kt2ed/universal_block_canary_has_been_released/dzakb0a/
[22] >>11104923
[23] http://archive.is/DlNyk
[24] https://www.quora.com/What-are-crypto-currencies-you-are-bullish-on-for-the-next-bull-run/answer/Marius-Kramer
[25] https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-best-crypto-currency-to-buy-in-September-2018/answer/Marius-Kramer
[26] https://www.quora.com/What-makes-a-bad-crypto-currency/answer/Marius-Kramer
[27] https://youtu.be/JS9tJgbFTUA?t=27m27s

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>>11434591
I take joy that you lost so much money.
and I'll take even more joy when nano is 50 bucks again and all you did was try to fud it and you miss out, again.

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>>11434611
Yeah this autist obviously got burned by Bitgrail, I think an Anon Doxed him in another thread as the same writing style and references were used in Discord when he got banned for spamming this shit daily.

>> No.11434631
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>>11434611
>>11434617
You have no clue, nano zombie. I warned against Bitconnect as well. I got same insane replies from them as well. Losers.

Nano is bitconnect 2.0

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>>11434631
lmao you calling nano bitconnect 2.0 proves howmuch of an actual retardo you are.

>> No.11434650

If you don't have at least 1000 NANO, you will never make it.

>> No.11434667 [DELETED] 
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>>11434399
Nano’s relationship with BitGrail, their main trading platform, was incestuous and dirty from the very beginning. However, after “Bomber”, CEO of BitGrail found out that his exchange had been hacked for 80% of their Nano assets in October 2017, close to 10% of total supply of Nano, the relationship between Nano devs and BitGrail became criminal.

BITGRAIL PROBLEMS KNOWN BY NANO DEV TEAM PRIOR TO BITGRAIL CRASH
>Insolvency of BitGrail and missing 10 million nano, discovered and made public by the Nano community [1][2]
>Missing transactions on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [2][3]
>Single transactions replicated multiple times on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [4][3][5][6].
>Millions of Nanos moving out from BitGrail, when the exchange was closed for withdrawals, discovered and made public by the Nano community [7].
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to alleged ‘maintenance’.
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to ‘KYC’ excuse [8] [9]. Hundreds of thousands remained unverified [10].
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks, due to alleged ‘pending withdrawals’, which were never processed [11].
>Nano withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to node problems.
>Customer support ignores tickets - not just for days but for weeks [12]
>Bomber increasingly unhinged and psychotic. Insults his customers on social media for asking legitimate questions [12]. Nano community expressed concern to the Nano devs.

>> No.11434676 [DELETED] 

>>11434667
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (1 of 2)

>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano, do arbitrage between exchanges. [13][7][14].
>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano move assets to safety. Just one of these accounts handled 50million USD [13][7][14][15].
>Insider trading on BitGrail done via accounts connected to Nano Devs. Traded tens of millions of dollars [15].
>Nano dev team used incestuous relationship with Bomber to get instant KYC verification [16], impossible for standard Nano investors.
>Ordinary Nano investors accounts blocked from doing arbitrage, moving assets to safety or doing insider trading, unlike Nano dev team. Stuck with coming 80% loss [17].
>Zack Shapiro (Nano dev): Everything under control. Just too much work with KYC. Not insolvent. (statement made 4 days before BitGrail insolvent) [18].
>Zack Shapiro: No reason to worry, BitGrail doing normal KYC, “scams don’t do that” [19]
>Zack Shapiro: “Yes, you can [trust BitGrail]. I talk to Bomber every day and he’s a good guy. We’ll get it all sorted next week. Just hang in there” [20] [21]
>Zack Shapiro: Confirms BitGrail is a serious business. “Opposite of an exit scam actually” [22]
>Zack Shapiro: BitGrail is “Legitimate. Complying with the laws of their contry” [23]
>Zack Shapiro: “Funds are safe on Bitgrail…Again, funds are safe” [24][25]
>Mica Busch (Nano dev): ‘‘funds are safe, [BitGrails] representative account does not show any suspicious activity’’ [26]
>Nano: “Be assured that your funds are safe” [27][28]

>> No.11434688 [DELETED] 

>>11434676
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (2 of 2)

>Person who discovered and exposed 50million USD account being connected to Nano Dev team, got later banned from Nano subreddit [13].
>Nano community member who discovered/reported that nearly all nano on BitGrail was missing, was forced to delete initial post titled; ‘10 Million XRB Possibly Missing XRB From BitGrail’ [2] and repost under different headline ‘I need some help with tracing funds’ [1].
>Nano team systematically deleted threads of investors’ concerns and the sharing of new information regarding BitGrail [4].
>Nano dev team confirmed knowing about all BitGrail problems, told investors to relax, and promised a thorough investigation [29][30][28]. ‘Developers are taking care of that’ [31].

>> No.11434696 [DELETED] 

>>11434688
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITEIS POST-BIGRAIL CRASH

>Nano Dev team claimed to do all they could to investigate and find missing Nano. No update since. Nothing done. [32]
>Nano community did all the work, themselves researching/investigating. [33][34][35] [32][41].
>BitGrail victim group representative, Espen Enger met with Nano lawyer Josh Kleiman in Italy [36]. Details of the deal made with the Nano team is not made known to the BitGrail victims.
>After meeting between Enger and Kleiman all criticism of Nano Dev team became banned on BitGrail victim discord [37].
>Change in BitGrail victim group management. Protection of Nano Dev team and suddenly non BitGrail victims used as hostile mods on BitGrail victim group discord [38].
>Don’t be surprised if Enger gets millions, and/or cushy job at Nano when all this is over. As a big thank you from the shady Nano team.
>Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano foundation and Nano team members. Outside the original BitGrail victim group, now Discord BitGrail/WebCoin Lawsuit [39][40]

>> No.11434702

Thanks, just sold 100k nanos that I never owned and never will buy.

>> No.11434707 [DELETED] 

>>11434696
Footnotes to the above Nano -BitGrail Crash (and Nano dev team involvement) –1 of 2

[1] https://archive.is/8mMEU
[2] https://archive.is/LUN33
[3] https://archive.is/V30nG
[4] https://archive.is/pk03o
[5] https://prnt.sc/ilv1gl
[6] https://prnt.sc/ilv0p6
[7] https://archive.is/Wkgvn
[8] https://bitsonline.com/raiblocks-nano-bitgrail-epic-fail/
[9] https://archive.is/CKs1V
[10] https://imgur.com/a/rOn3Seb
[11] https://archive.is/RW944
[12] https://archive.is/DM6Nl
[13] https://archive.is/acLnr
[14] https://imgur.com/a/Owlui
[15] https://archive.is/pC3vC
[16] https://imgur.com/a/mJMhlx3
[17] http://archive.is/86eDr
[18] https://imgur.com/a/aFYpDyk
[19] https://imgur.com/a/KNg2src
[20] https://imgur.com/a/o8lIwDz

>> No.11434728 [DELETED] 

>>11434707
Footnotes – part 2 of 2

[21] https://imgur.com/a/urpgzwv
[22] https://imgur.com/a/G7fgqWV
[23] https://imgur.com/a/4YcVEji
[24] https://imgur.com/a/IWP2thd
[25] https://imgur.com/a/rFV6BJy
[26] https://archive.is/bfd0Y
[27] https://imgur.com/a/ql0cjLP
[28] https://archive.is/dykfh
[29] https://i.imgur.com/ddzQlVw.jpg
[30] https://i.imgur.com/7xwM1Lx.jpg
[31] https://i.imgur.com/e8n7fWo.jpg
[32] https://archive.is/lTCkP
[33] https://archive.is/o1BmU
[34] https://archive.is/8Md3N
[35] https://archive.is/f4Q8E
[36] https://youtu.be/40aufi9oJno?t=10m16s [Embed] [Embed]
[37] https://imgur.com/a/gQmoQv0
[38] https://imgur.com/a/d8xG4QL
[39] https://archive.is/MbWv1
[40] Google: silvermillerlaw com 2018/04/2018-4-6-DE-1-CLASS-ACTION-COMPLAINT-1
[41] https://archive.is/0R8Qe

>> No.11434737

>>11434599
The same copy-paste over and over. Every argument that you posted was proved null multiple times on reddit on the original post, and here, every time you posted it.

You are such a loser. Get over it. You fucked up with your NANO and that's it

>> No.11434743

>>11434537
Yep. I think any crypto that gives more control over operation of the network to those that have more funds (basically any POS scheme) is broken from the start. The first line of defense can't be an economic incentive.

I wish there were more distributed agreement protocols like XRP/XLM that didn't rely on coin or asic ownership.

>> No.11434756

>>11434743
Yeah thats why Eth is all in on a DPOS, mining is a stop gap and cannot go on forever as we have hit physical limits in silicon, moores law is null and void .

>> No.11434761

>>11434611
>when nano is 50 bucks again
what did he mean by this?

>> No.11434782

>>11434702
>the dumbest post ever
normies and pajeets are back guys; bullrun is coming

>> No.11434787
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>>11434737
>The same copy-paste over and over. Every argument that you posted was proved null multiple times on reddit on the original post, and here, every time you posted it.
Total false. You crazy nanoids are lying through your teeth regarding your scam coin all the time. Give me your best counter arguments, nano monkey boi.

>Pic, Nano hodler getting assraped since January 2018, buying some more, while screaming: "2 da moooOOoooon!!

>> No.11434792

>>11434707
You've been posting the same crap on fucking 4chan for months now. I don't own Nano, but the fact that this is all your life is worth is astoundingly sad. I feel sad for you and if your family knew this is all you do on a daily basis they would wonder where they went wrong. I mean, having to do the captcha over and over and over again so you don't get caught by the spam filter, you have to wonder to yourself what you could have accomplished with all that time. Nobody on 4chan, and especially biz, is going to read this shit you post. The nanites don't care either. I hope you find a life, cause posting spam probably isn't what you dreamed of doing growing up.

>> No.11434794

>>11434737
it has to be a reverse troll. there is no other explanation.

>> No.11434814
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>>11434676
Zack Shapiro

>> No.11434824

>>11434792
lmao yeah it's been months now.
any thread that pops up this guy is there posting the same shit, over and over and over again.

Imagine being that guy that refreshes biz every 20 minutes, the entire time he's awake so he can post the fud. lmao.

I wonder if he lost pajeet amounts.
Imagine if he only lost like 10k USD and still does this. LOL.

>> No.11434841
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>>11434696
Josh Kleiman

>> No.11434867

>>11434824
Right? This person sits at their desk and waits out the spam timer, copies and pastes images or text from a word doc, and then manually clicks through the captcha. Day in, day out, constantly refreshing 4chan. Wow, what a fucking life, trully admirable.

>> No.11434874
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[ERROR]

>>11434696
Espen Enger

>> No.11434888

>>11434867
the last time this happened this much was in August and NANO went up over 300% in a few days. this is unironically bullish

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>>11434824
>>11434867
Nano vpn loser, talking to himself. As usual. What a wanker.

>> No.11434890

>>11434399
seems like its coming to coinbase soon

https://www.coinbase.com/price/nano

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>>11434782
How are those 30 dollars nanos I sold you? Keeping them bags warm for me?

>> No.11434901

>>11434889
just stop man you are embarrassing yourself so hard lol.

>> No.11434928
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While both Nano and Bitgrail leaders told nano investors that Bitgrail was safe and not compromised, http://archive.is/dOMVA, they themselves took all their assets, over $100 million, and moved it as fast as hell away from Bitgrail, hiding their assets, while telling everyone that Bitgrail was OK and perfectly safe. This is why neither Nano dev team, nor Bitgrail, have done any kind of investigation who stole the money, where are stolen Nanos now, where are the thief. Firstly they just don't care, they are now rich, secondly there is too much criminal activity from both sides that none of them want to be investigated and exposed. They prefer darkness, secrecy and that all their crimes will just fade away. This will not happen. Multiple lawsuits are pending and coming. Nano tech is flawed and does not function under pressure, http://archive.is/Vva8Z, Nano is Bitconnect 2.0

>> No.11434942

>>11434902
hahhahahaha, been dca'ing since $7. didn't even know about it until the charlie lee shit in march

>> No.11434945 [DELETED] 

>>11434928
Colin dumped millions of xrb in May from private wallets when there was Nano Binance Competition (100kk+ USD VOL.)
He chose a good moment for send to Binance. Who gives a dam about Nano and Bitgrail's victims who suffered a stolen.
Guess they had some special developer donation account before actual one which exists now.
I'll explain you so maybe you'll figure out.

Old developer donation account:
https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_3wm37qz19zhei7nzscjcopbrbnnachs4p1gnwo5oroi3qonw6inwgoeuufdp

The first address that recieved a nano from Old Developer Donation was this:
https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_3pg6xswkroybxydyzaxybb1h531sx34omiu7an9t9jy19f9mca7a36s7by5e
(Colin's account)

https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_3pg6xswkroybxydyzaxybb1h531sx34omiu7an9t9jy19f9mca7a36s7by5e
(Colin's account connected to the old developer donation account)

2. https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_11iaqa1oppdxzawrbuzh4m5y78i9zngnhwp8urpup97fsf7k8e84gf61ei75
(Colin's private wallet)

3. https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_31kxdcjafw5k5w4u3h9uo7yctkawcjkegnwaqjr1jqq3tanu8bp6m4obru7a
(Colin's private wallet)

2. and 3. are connected to the 1.

https://www.nanode.co/block/BE548A457F28A42119FB22373303690DAB5F40811E4E87643A15267827D6C138
This is the first transaction when old developer donation account sent to this account back in 2016.

Picture is from 02.12.2017
https://i.imgur.com/KEwsZsY.jpg

>> No.11434948

>>11434889
Who cares man. Oh boy, a vpn. We don't care about the NANO tech. We don't care about the history of it. Or the people. Or the controversies. Crypto is full of scams but as long as we make money off of it what does it matter, especially here on biz? Imagine how much money you could have made by swing trading in the hours you're spending copy pasting and working out captchas daily. We know you're not a bot cause your direct responses are slower than your copy paste posts. It's sad man.

>> No.11434955

>>11434902
>How are those 30 dollars nanos I sold you
>>11434702
>that I never owned
brainlet.png

>> No.11435013

>>11434792
>I don't own Nano
Sure.

>> No.11435045
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11435045

>>11434667
>>11434676
>>11434688
>>11434707
>>11434728
>>11434945


Hey loser, I made this one just for you lmao.

>> No.11435289
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11435289

just bought 100 mil fag

>> No.11435416

kek so much salt here

If you lost money on the exchange it's your own problem. You assumed all the risk. What the fuck was the xrb team going to do? Sit around with their thumbs up their ass waiting for a coinbase listing?

>> No.11435491

blug flag confimed masive bull run incoming

>> No.11435508

>>11435491
what time frame, bro?

>> No.11435536
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11435536

>>11435045
(you)

>> No.11435626

>>11435491
t-8 minutes

>> No.11435645

>>11435626
nice, i will stick around for that

>> No.11435698

>>11435626
starting to move. nice call, anon

>> No.11435735

>>11435536
lmao.

>> No.11435796

>>11434534
YOU'VE CONVINCED NO ONE. EVERY SINGLE NANO THREAD, FOR THE LOVE OF SATAN, SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY

>> No.11436182

>>11435796
You made the same hysterical and retarded comment to people warning you against your beloved bitconnect. Sucks to be you. Sucks to be nano bagholder

>> No.11436480
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11436480

get ready fags

>> No.11436491

>>11436480
ready bro

>> No.11437339
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11437339

>>11435491
>>11435626
Woah it's actually happening

>> No.11437380
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11437380

nano big break out incoming get ready fags

>> No.11437536
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11437536

>>11435045
Have you managed to have at least 2 months without severe node crashes and frozen accounts on trading platforms? Many years ago it was promised that sooooooon, the node problems would be fixed, pic related.

>> No.11437548
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11437548

>>11434948
Nano always have insane partnership rumours, in true bitconnect style, pic related.

>> No.11437749
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11437749

>>11434890
>>11434901
Are you idiots still rambling on about coinbase? Like you did nearly one year ago, pic related? Thanks to your massive node crashes, and zero security audit, plus Italian scammer history, etc, you will not be on coinbase before end of 2019, hopelessly behind everyone else, if at all. Good luck with that. Your shitcoin will crash and go to zero.

>> No.11437758
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11437758

>>11434888
>the last time this happened this much was in August and NANO went up over 300% in a few days. this is unironically bullish
What is it with you nano psychos and pathological lying?

>> No.11437777

>>11437536
>>11437548
>>11437749
>>11437758
but it happened, though. trips don't lie, brah

>> No.11437783

>>11434534
27 posts by this ip.

he did this in the last thread and has been doing it for months.

I am just going to report every single one of his posts because this is getting annoying

>> No.11437787
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11437787

>>11434948
How about you nano idiots start to address the massive problems with your shitcoin and amateur dev team?`One year ago, you did not even have a full time dev. You only got that after Italian scammers pushed your butt ugly shitcoin with constant node crashes and wide open to spam attacks. No wonder you always have to lie about your TPS numbers.

>> No.11437805

>>11437783
>I am just going to report every single one of his posts because this is getting annoying
Nano idiot can't defend his shitcoin. Spamming, ad hominem attacks and flagging is all you losers have. Pathetic, but not unexpected from you deranged nanoids. Even worse than the bitconnect fanatics.

>> No.11437812

>>11437787
this guy is hilarious. he's going to make me rich, singlehandedly. it's a highly effective reverse troll. keep bumping these NANO threads brah

>> No.11437818
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11437818

>>11437777

>> No.11437819

>>11437805
You are not here to converse, you are here to spam. So I reported you thusly. I encourage other nano anons to do the same.

>> No.11438002

>>11437819
Now I'm wondering if you are the reverse troll... Even non NANO investors like me are tired of this spamming autist.

>> No.11438016

>>11437787
Damn you are so triggered. Anon must have hit a nerve.

>Muh proof
>Nobody responds with answers to my spam

Being so justed in crypto that you spend your life spamming this board. KYS.

>> No.11438400

>>11434888
>>11437777
Holy mother of digits, bullish af

>> No.11439397

>>11437812
>this guy is hilarious. he's going to make me rich, singlehandedly. it's a highly effective reverse troll. keep bumping these NANO threads brah
Pathetic and delusional. Keep on smoking that crack nano zombie. Too bad you idiots can't defend your shitcoin with a single argument. Slander, lies, flagging and wishful thinking is all you bitconnect 2.0 morons have.

>> No.11439403

>>11439397
You are all in on Elastos.. You are blind to the opportunities hand given to you and sounds like you have already lost in life. Goodbye fren! you will not be remembered!

>> No.11439407

>>11438002
>Even non NANO investors like me
So strange. Nano has been a financial disaster for the investors, but here answering the critique of their shitcoin, all the rabid and butthurt commentators are either non-nano holders or they earned tons of money bey daytrading. Not once have I met a nano idiot losing money on this shitcoin down 96% from ATH. What are the odds?

>> No.11439414

>>11438016
>you spend your life spamming
Are you insane? As usual you nanoids are so stupid you can't defend your shitcoin with a single counter-argument. This is not great for new and potential investors. Your shitcoin will go to zero.

>> No.11439425

>>11439403
>You are all in on Elastos
Yeah, more lies from the stupid nano zombies. Can't answer questions, can't counter documented flaws in their shitcoin and stupid dev team, management. Sad. Pathetic. Nano.

>> No.11439454

>>11439397
>Nano has 756 TPS [1][2]. VISA can handle over 56,000 TPS [3]. Competitors work on 1 million TPS solutions [4]. Nano’s aim to be global currency is either delusional or a fraud.

I'll only look at your first point cause its pointless looking any further. 1. That TPS is what the protocol can produce as of version 16. Version 20 will see an even larger TPS.. That is the BEST TPS of any decentralized crypto. FACT. 2. Visa is centralized and their transactions are not settled for weeks.. go invest in visa bro. 3. 1 million transactions on a SECOND layer... gotta still get through that first layer though.. 1st layer protocol will dominate this next bullrun. 4. Go try using Nano and come back when you think it doesnt have just as much chance as bitcoin does of becoming a global currency.

Have fun being poor and good luck with Elastos lol

>> No.11439455
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11439455

>>11435796
You are the boomer idiot from plebbit that put a death curse on me from your loser master, satan, right? You have to go back to plebbit, or hell, where you belong boomer. You have to go back.

>> No.11439471
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11439471

>>11439454
yah he keeps bullshiting about node crashes, but as a user I have had no trouble sending and receiving nano's to friends ever. the wallet always works and it works fast.

I believe there were some node issues.
but they aren't a problem if I haven't noticed anything not working as a user, who cares.

>> No.11439476
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11439476

>>11434792
Instead of answering documented flaws in your nano shitcoin, you decide that, like rest of the nano zombies, that lies, smear, ad hominem, flagging and lots of bitching is the right thing to do. You must be such a great "investor" and your family must be so proud of you, spewing your incoherent sand-box garbage instead of actually answer the critique with facts and logic. But you can't. One you are too stupid, two nano is a shitcoin. But for you idiots it always feel like stealing, no matter how much you idiots lose, right? Pic related.

>> No.11439487
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11439487

>>11439476
don't have time to answer your old list of non issues for users bro, we dont wantwaste hours trying to win an internet discussion like you.

>> No.11439488

>>11439471
There is virtually zero traffic for your shitcoin. What do you expect, nano moron? Have you had two months without sever node crashing, even with near zero traffic, ever? Don't think so. Go back to plebbit, loser. Your coin is trash and so are you nano "investors". What a joke. How much did you lose on that shitcoin. Be honest.

>> No.11439492

>>11439487
Yeah, wasting time with lies, flagging, ad hominem attacks and smear is so much better. Looks so great for new and potential investors. Right?

>> No.11439506
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11439506

>>11439454
Nano is not decentralized. That Nano has the best TPS is a total joke and a lie.

>> No.11439512

>>11439454
>>11439492
Why do you ignore people when they do reply to your FUD spam? You come across so bitter.. It is obvious you got scammed - sorry that u lost so much I hope u can get over it . RIP

>> No.11439513

>>11439454
>Have fun being poor
This is why you idiots are poor and why you invest in shitcoin nano, pushing fake TPS numbers since day one when the italian scammers discovered the shitcoin and decided to pump it to idiots like you. Clueless nano zombies. Utter morons. Enjoy losing the rest of your money.

>> No.11439514

>>11439506
Name a decentralized protocol with a better TPS.

>> No.11439523

>>11439513
Again. It is obvious you got scammed - sorry that u lost so much I hope u can get over it . RIP

>> No.11439736

>>11439512
>>11439514
>>11439523
The fastest blockchains are

IOTA with billions of possible TPS through their Tangle-architecture
Holochain with billions of possible TPS through their agent-centric architecture
Elastos with billion of possible TPS through their side-chain architecture
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-fastest-decentralized-blockchain-at-the-moment/answer/Marius-Kramer

>> No.11439744

>>11439512
>>11439514
>>11439523
https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-investing-strategy-for-cryptocurrency-in-2018-2019/answer/Marius-Kramer

>> No.11439780

>>11438400
fucking checked

>> No.11439811
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11439811

>>11439736
>IOTA
>HOLO
>Elastos
lmao, wrong. try again, guy
https://www.bitcoinkit.com/fastest-exchange-deposit/binance

>> No.11439813

>>11439736
Iota has had 1 stress test for about 1k TPS until if farked up and got too expensive.. all theoretical.

Holochain.. no mainnet yet so 0TPS

Elastos.. see holochain.

Cool stuff in theory though

>> No.11439839

>>11439811
Nano close to zero usage. Node crashes on Binance multiple times. Completely useless as a coin.

>> No.11439845

>>11439813
Look more into the author and educate yourself. Nano is trash and joke.

>> No.11439850

>>11439839
How much usage is on the Elastos protocol? Oh yea it doesnt exist

>> No.11439855

>>11439845
You realise that guy gets paid right? He is an influencer.. You've been fucking conned again you just cant help yourself!

>> No.11439916

>>11439855
>You realise that guy gets paid right? He is an influencer.. You've been fucking conned again you just cant help yourself!
Facts are facts idiot. Unlike you nano zombies unable to counter any of my arguments. So where are your documentation that he is an influencer? Yet another lie from you nano morons? So what is the upper limit for Nano TPS? Do you have any documentation? Do you have any clue? If you want to be a global currency, you need at least same TPS as Visa. 56 000 TPS. Can you do that? Ethereum are working on solutions for one million TPS, not very far away in time. How can your trash coin, pushed by Italian scammers even compete?

>> No.11439924

>>11439850
Read the articles and educate yourself, nano boomer. Your shitcoin will never make it. https://www.quora.com/profile/Marius-Kramer

>> No.11439970

dat schizo fudder

>> No.11439992

>>11439924
>Gets all his facts from a paid shill
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-George-Tung-hate-Marius-Kramer-so-much
>20 quite good coins that are really promising

your boyfriend lists nano in his top 20 good coins list.. that must really hurt you? Are you not conflicted?

>> No.11440012

>>11439924
He has no idea. His top 8 coins dont even exist yet. How many of them paid for his 'expert support'

>> No.11440052

>>11439916
You just referred to (you) yourself in third person you fucking desperate pajeets. I can't believe you turds spend your life sharing the same ip space fudding nano. God damn, reported and KYS.

>> No.11440108

>>11439924
>45 posts by this ID
I mean you could just make the $100 you lost on bitgrail by working instead of shitposting in this thread.

>> No.11440154

>>11439970
>>11439992
>>11440012
>>11440052
>>11440108
You idiots have a total shitcoin pushed by Italina scammers. Before that, you didn't even have a full time dev. Less than a year ago. A total fucking joke.

Your 756 TPS and claim to be a future global coin is insane. You nanoids are delusional and so are you devs. You must minimum have Visa's 56 000 TPS and they are NOT a global currency. They only have a fraction of that. Your management team is the worst in crypto. Only a few weeks ago your retarded devs rolled up an update that crashed the nodes once again. Even with close to zero traffic. Your nano shitcoin is a joke, and your community is that of apes and morons. Total losers. No wonder you nano imbeciles stay the hell away from arguing with facts and logic. Let your butthurt and hystical whining continue. Your childish ad hominem attacks and infantile rambling. I feel sorry for you nano losers.

>> No.11440175

>>11440052
>You just referred to (you) yourself in third person
Where? Cunt

>God damn, reported and KYS
For what, exposing your shitcoin and insane community?

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11440196

>>11439970
>https://www.quora.com/Why-does-George-Tung-hate-Marius-Kramer-so-much
>>11439992
>>11440012
>>11440052
>>11440108
Time for you nano crybabies to grow up. Your fanatic, blind and ape-like community is a disgrace.

>> No.11440216
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11440216

>>11439970
>>11439992
>>11440012
>>11440052
>>11440108
Time for you nano crybabies to grow up. Your fanatic, blind and ape-like community is a disgrace.

>> No.11440221

>>11440154
>Then, you have around 20 quite good coins that are really promising, but that haven’t managed to get traction yet or haven’t launched yet (QASH, RLX, FUN, Civic, THEKEY, WePower, XPLAY, Edgeless, Cindicator, Fusion, DBC, Aeternity, REQ, Nano, Nebulas, SKY, Ethereum, APPC, Cardano, MatrixAI, Quarkchain, PowerLedger, Nexus, Maker)
>Then, you have 20 coins or 0.8% that are quite good and really promising, but that still have a way to go and show traction.

This is the guy you keep referencing and what he thinks of Nano. Nano doesnt even have to pay this guy and he likes it. Give up and join us or be poor

>> No.11440229

>>11440216
You don't have any proper replies anymore. Hopefully I've opened your eyes. Thanks for listening. - Marius Kramer

>> No.11440266

>>11439992
>>Gets all his facts from a paid shill
>https://www.quora.com/Why-does-George-Tung-hate-Marius-Kramer-so-much
It's called IRONY! Damn you nano zombies are stupid. He does NOT admit he is a paid shill. Definitely you IQ is double digit, like the rest of the homo nano fanbois.

>> No.11440689

All these Nano problems again.
Still waiting for someone to actually address any of these issues highlighted.
The Nano community is retarded, all these do is smear and attack (like dogs in a pack, never alone) and throwing out low IQ statements (like that deals with any of the problems with Nano, they think it'll just go away -_- ).

>> No.11440865

OP is unironically someone who bought nano for $20+ and now this is literally all he has left. It's good entertainment though.

>> No.11440944

>>11434534
>>Insiders obviously know Nano is riddled with terminal flaws and structural problems. Insiders obviously know Nano is riddled with terminal flaws and structural problems.
>>Devs are dumping Nano on the market [7]. Insiders obviously know Nano is riddled with terminal flaws and structural problems.
Is strokeposting making a comeback?

>> No.11440983

>>11440689
>Still waiting for issues to be addressed
>spoonfoeef brainlets and waste time responding to "problems" that have already been addressed over and fucking over
LMAO
thanks for the thread bumps

>> No.11441062

>>11440983
>''problems that have been addressed over and fucking over''
Liar. If not, then show where they've been addressed. I've seen tones of these threads and not come across a single Nano comment reflecting an intelligence at a 3 digit level IQ being able to address the Nano problems highlighted.

>> No.11441173
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11441173

>>11441062
>4chan is the only place on the internet
>do research for me
you're clearly not interested in NANO or you would do this yourself. thanks for bumping the thread

>> No.11441196
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11441196

>>11440865
>It'll climb back to 35$ any day now

>> No.11441211

>>11441196
>measuring in fiat
literally not going to make it

>> No.11441421

>>11441173
You said the problems have been addressed. I told you to provide evidence where its been addressed, as I've not seen it.
Conclusion: You're a liar.

>> No.11441451

>>11441211
Shiet my bad, does 160 chuck e cheese tokens sound any better?

>> No.11441829

>>11441173
>thanks for bumping the thread
The state of delusional and insane nano psychos

>> No.11442058

>>11441421
>do research for me
>you're clearly not interested in NANO or you would do this yourself
literally cannot read and comprehend
brainlet.png

>> No.11442714

>>11442058
Claiming documented flaws in nano has been debunked and then run away when asked for link. You, the total idiot, claim that is the same as asking others to do the research. You nano monkeys are such an embarrassment.

>> No.11442742

>>11442714
>run away
i'm right here faggot
i've already done my research and i know what i'm doing and where i'm going. NANO doesn't need my help in shilling. i like coming here and fucking with you like i have been since August. keep it up shitlord, you're doing great

>> No.11442749
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11442749

>>11441862

Join this thread for active debunking of NANO FUD. Instead of copypasta, I can actively answer questions as a developer.

>> No.11442801

>>11442749
So why are you then lying again, as always. Have you no shame nano developer?
>>11442784

>> No.11442854

>>11442749
>I can actively answer questions as a developer.
wow, actual NANOChad ITT. nice

>> No.11443030

>>11442749
You are a nano developer and you have now a golden opportunity to try to debunk my criticism of Nano. Instead you run away and direct people over to another thread, where I can not post my criticism since your nano zombies already flag my comments. Why are you unable to make your comments here?

>> No.11443763 [DELETED] 

>>11442749
Are you really a Nano developer?
Why are you directing to another thread?

>> No.11443767

>>11443030
can you read? he said developer, not nano developer lol

>> No.11443775

>>11443763
is reading hard for you, anon?

>> No.11443864

>>11442749
So why aren't you debunking the Nano issues raised, over on that thread then. From what I can see on that thread it has played out exactly as he said it would, many of his comments have been flagged by Nano people and have been removed.
You do realise people can see this, right? -_-

>> No.11443986

>>11443767
>can you read? he said developer, not nano developer lol
Are you so stupid you believe a dev from a competing cryptocurrency will come and defend nano.

>> No.11444008

all this focus on tech when the real issue nano and every other random alt faces is that they're never going to see any serious usage numbers in the shadow of things like bitcoin and ethereum.

technology just doesnt matter, and they know it, but the tech hype is all they have.

>> No.11444253

>>11444008
>crypto will be used but merchants will naturally choose the ones with fees over the ones without fees
sure, guy

>> No.11444281

>>11444008
and everyone loves waiting 10-30 minutes for confirmations instead of <4 seconds for confirmation