/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.11267333]

>$2000 pay cheque
>$1500 after tax

HOW IS THIS ALLOWED?

[Anonymous No.11267344]

>live in straya
>1000 after tax
You're a lucky cunt faggot

[Anonymous No.11267360]

>>11267333
Reminder to vote libertarian

[Anonymous No.11267378]

Who's gonna pay for jaquardis and shaniqua's bills if you don't

[Anonymous No.11267383]

>>11267333
What, you thought socialism was free? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.11267449]

>$1700 check
>$1300 after tax
>My money is going to feeding niglet spawn

[Anonymous No.11267489]

Did you think you could get away from paying the NEETs that entertain you on this board all day and night? That’s an expensive service Anon.

[Anonymous No.11267932]

>>11267489
FUCK YOU NEETS

[Anonymous No.11267951]

>>11267333
3100€
2600€ atfer taxes.

i hate it.

[Anonymous No.11268003]

>>11267932

[Anonymous No.11268021]

>>11267333
Your a wagey, you asked for it.
STOP working and ffs don't make your own company. There is no point in working in quasi socialism

[Anonymous No.11268153]

>>11267333
I actually enjoy my well maintained roads, education system and welfare for the poor so the crime rate is super low. Eurofag here. 3000 to 2200 eur lol

[Anonymous No.11268169]

I'm getting my $660 neetbux and I'm fine with it.
Go work harder and don't complain about taxes, wageslaves.

[Anonymous No.11268182]

>>11268153
It's almost 1k being stolen. This is insanity.
Besides, I think a considerable part of it does not go to anything benefiting the people at all

[Anonymous No.11268227]

>>11268153
They are not poor, they just don't want to work. You can't be poor in the 1st world, silly.

[Anonymous No.11268324]

>>11267383
america is the least socialist country there is, college and medical care basically ruin us, the other nice shit we have can only be enjoyed once you hit upper middle class. if you think 25-30% is bad, look up euro rates.

[Anonymous No.11268350]

>>11267333
so make more money you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.11268361]

>$4800 pay cheque
>$2200 after tax
I-it's fine

[Anonymous No.11268365]

>>11268350
This. the absolute state of this NEET board

[Anonymous No.11268370]

>>11267333
why would it not be allowed? who do you think pays the cops, the military, any public service that actually allows you to live in a society?
you dont want to pay taxes motherfucker? then it is my right to go to your home, rape your wife, take all your money and the only thing you can do is either cry or fight back. And we all know you are a fucking pantsie.
SO SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[Anonymous No.11268379]

>>11268361
Thanks for feeding nignogs, cuck.

[Anonymous No.11268389]

Why is it always the most stupid, pathetic people complaining about taxes? You wouldn't last a week without the societal infrastructures that money pays to maintain.

If you think you've got what it takes to go be some survivalist out in the wood who shuns society, go for it. But the truth is you know you don't. You complain about entitlements but the only entitled one is you, who wants all the benefits of society but doesn't want to contribute.

Come at me you brainwashed knuckleheads. Hit me with every fox news talking point in the book. It won't make you right.

[Anonymous No.11268396]

>>11268379
What's the alternative, brainlet? I like feeding myself too. I have the suspicion that all the 'taxation is theft' retards haven't worked a single day in their lives.

[Anonymous No.11268416]

>>11268361
how?

[Anonymous No.11268427]

>>11268389
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.11268448]

>>11268416
I got the rates wrong, its $4850 to $2550

[Anonymous No.11268488]

>>11268324
America is extremely socialist, you just don't see it because all of the money goes towards a single demographic instead of the general good of the whole population (melanin matters).
Shaniqua and Tyrone need their bills paid, and they all want the newest iPhone for Christmas

[Anonymous No.11268516]

>>11267333
>45k ytd
>31k take home after tax
You know nothing

[Anonymous No.11268534]

>>11268488
>America is extremely socialist

Go back to /pol/, you don't belong here

[Anonymous No.11268535]

>>11268389
>You wouldn't last a week without the societal infrastructures that money pays to maintain.
Like what

[Anonymous No.11268570]

Someone has to pay tax to maintain the neets and niggers. They need some wagecuck balls to hang from, after all.

[Anonymous No.11268586]

uh just make tax free money? Duh

[Anonymous No.11268590]

>>11268535
If it weren't for taxes the internet never would have been created and you wouldn't be shitposting here right now. You wouldn't have any confidence your food was safe and you probably wouldn't have food in the first place because you don't know how to grow it. You wouldn't be able to protect your crops if you could grow them from thieves or fires because there's no cops or firefighters.

Get sick? Sorry, nobody has been getting grant money to develop medicine so now you're dead at 24 like a caveman.

Fresh water? Yeah, nobody's been making that a reality either. Nobody built pipes so I hope you know how to collect and purify some natural water sources.

Let's not even start with the public education you received which allows you to know how to read the words I'm saying right now and count to five.

Literally everything you take for granted is the answer.

[Anonymous No.11268598]

>>11268534
Your tax dollars pay for Shaniqua's weave, they pay for Amazon workers who don't get paid enough by the company they work for, they pay for bailouts when recessions come and banks deemed too big to fail need money. Your bank accounts will soon pay for bail ins during the next collapse.
America is social, you just don't see any of it because it's not for you goyim

[Anonymous No.11268629]

>>11268590
Yeah how do you explain the US's collapsing infrastructure?

[Anonymous No.11268632]

>>11268598
>the government doesn't do exactly what I want with the money so fuck taxes

Like I said go back to /pol/, you have nothing of value to contribute here.

[Anonymous No.11268633]

>spend half the year unemployed
>get all my tax money back as a refund
Hahaha I'm beating the syst--...wait...

[Anonymous No.11268643]

>>11268629
Jews mostly

[Anonymous No.11268645]

>>11268629
Mismanagement of resources, mostly spearheaded by the very same anti-tax politicians and lobbyists who have convinced the idiots in this thread that taxation is theft.

[Anonymous No.11268650]

>>11268153
Get a load of this goy over here. Fucking faggot. Taxes are slavery. Obvious to anyone with a triple digit iq. Sorry for your genetics

[Anonymous No.11268662]

>>11268645
The number 1 spending in this country is Medicare and medicaid along with social security. 3.5x more than we spend on military. Please explain how the forceful removal of money from my paycheck fed directly into the waiting arms of the "poor" is not theft?

[Anonymous No.11268671]

>>11267333
>work lots of overtime
>work hard to get paid more
>$6500 paycheck
>get taxed at an even higher rate because OT
>$2000 taken in taxes

fuck u government

[Anonymous No.11268682]

>>11268570
this is why i've become a NEET

>funding your ethnic replacement
nope, not me
enjoy being a tax cow - the middle class is going away it's not going to matter if you're making 20k or 150k

[Anonymous No.11268691]

>>11268662

think of it not so much as theft but as paying for guillotine insurance

[Anonymous No.11268695]

>>11268662
neither one of those really have to do with being poor. those are for old people who paid into the system their entire lives

[Anonymous No.11268711]

>>11268662
>The number 1 spending in this country is Medicare and medicaid along with social security.

Social security payments are going to people who have been paying into the fund their whole lives, so that literally is not a part of this conversation. It's not an entitlement, IT'S THEIR MONEY. Social security is the single most successful government program in American history and has never missed a single payment, but retards still go along with this pure propaganda about how it's a bad thing somehow.

As far as medicare and medicaid? The healthcare system in America is terrible PRECISELY because it's private. We pay more than any country in the world PRECISELY because dipshits like you have been conned into not wanting to pay for it with taxes, and you're too stupid to realize you're actually paying even more than you would be.

[Anonymous No.11268723]

>>11268516
>$105k ytd
>$63k take home after taxes, 401k, healh insurance
bitch please

[Anonymous No.11268726]

>>11267333
>$2,000,000
>$1,994,800 after taxes

life ain't fair :(

[Anonymous No.11268728]

>>11268695
>>11268711
Alright I shouldn't have said Medicare, but Medicaid is for the poor. Disability comes from social security which is also for the poor. How do you think Tyrone gets his free gibs? He goes to the doctor and complains if chronic phantom back pain. Same way your average 4chan neet gets autismbux. Section 8, SNAP, WIC, it's all government funds for the poor.

If social security actually went to the old people who paid i to it then they wouldn't be dying because they can't afford their medications.

[The Prophet !2Ux8o5S382 No.11268731]

>>11268153
Problem is, some countries have ridiculous income tax rates which doesn't really justify the benefits you get

Look at Switzerland. Topclass infrastructure and well performing students, yet you pay 17% max.

[Anonymous No.11268735]

>>11268153
>eurofag
more like eurocuck

[Anonymous No.11268744]

>>11268735
unless u get ur salary from the state for doing basically nothing, as your comment implies. then ur a good leech on society

[Anonymous No.11268748]

>>11267449
Aye yo dis Tyrone just wanna thank yo ass fo paying for muh kids

[Anonymous No.11268759]

>>11268370
>Big government cuck

[Anonymous No.11268765]

>>11268728
>If social security actually went to the old people who paid i to it then they wouldn't be dying because they can't afford their medications.

You don't think that has anything to do with the constantly rising costs of healthcare? Did you know that doesn't happen in most countries, because they actually have public funded healthcare? Come on bro, hit me next with some bullshit about how waiting in line is worse than not getting it at all, I know you want to.

And those poor people you don't want to support? Okay, let's just stop giving them money. Now you've got millions of people who can't possibly all find jobs, rioting and looting just to put food on the table, and disabled people crawling across the street because you don't want to pay for a wheelchair. That sounds like a huge improvement to society.

Your view is so clouded by this /pol/tard bullshit about gibs and black people. Get a fucking clue dude, you're embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous No.11268766]

>>11268389
Biz is a lefypol clone now

[Anonymous No.11268785]

>>11268728
Section 8 and SNAP and WIC and welfare checks aren't Social Security, I don't know what you're talking about. But yes they are welfare.

Guess what though? They're never going away. So you can piss and moan all you want but they're never going away and you'll keep paying into them and paying for Shalonda and Maria because you get a little bigger slice of the pie each month from Master.

Literally the only way for welfare to end is to start taking from the pot yourself and when it finally runs out, you better prepare for war because whenever the collapse happens, China is planning a ground invasion.

>>11268765
The other countries with universal healthcare don't have droves of fat niggers and Mexicans to pay for. Blacks and Hispanics have the highest rates of diabetes and heart disease.

[Anonymous No.11268793]

>>11268765
The dollar is going to collapse regardless of the present situation, so all these people are fucked regardless of what happens.

Your solution is only appeasement to our melanin covered friends. Let them riot, it won't get them anywhere

[Anonymous No.11268798]

>>11268590
You're a stupid motherfucker thinking you need a 20 percent tax rate to maintain that shit.

5 percent rate and a FREE MARKET CAN handle it best

[Anonymous No.11268799]

>>11268590
Most doesn't go to that
>military- Zionist wars
> wealth redistribution- sub IQ non whites

[Anonymous No.11268804]

>>11268182
>>11268227
>>11268650
>>11268735
Americans...

[Anonymous No.11268824]

>>11268793
>>11268785
Okay Ron Paul. I guess we should just burn society to the ground right now since it's going to happen anyway. I'm sure you think you'll come out on top.

>taxes are bad because of minorities

This is not an argument outside your containment board. You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.11268828]

>>11268804
Not an argument

[Anonymous No.11268831]

7000€ 3500 after taxes. Welcome to belgium

[Anonymous No.11268840]

>>11268798
Please show evidence for your claim. I'll wait.

>>11268799
see
>>11268645
>>11268824

[Anonymous No.11268842]

>>11268731
Easy to afford that when you've been the world's money launderer for a century

[Anonymous No.11268853]

>>11268824
>taxes are bad because of minorities
Yes they literally are. You're asking me to GIVE my money to someone else. Fuck you cunt

Literally
>redistribution
If you were making a case for some rich cunt like Bill Gates or Bezos to pay more, I would be for it since no one is ever going to spend 1 billion (or 120 billion) in their life. But you want the middle class to pay more. Go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.11268865]

>>11268824
What an absolute strawman, did you not read what I said you fucking dipshit?

Virtually every single country in the world is in vast, unplayable debt. Sooner or later this welfare system will collapse, and the longer this continues the more dependencies it gathers.

There is LITERALLY no other way out of this shit.

I never said taxation was bad because of minorities, because taxation is immoral as it is literally theft.

Fuck off back to your shit website

[Anonymous No.11268895]

>>11268828
Your crimerates and third world infrastructure are

[Anonymous No.11268896]

>>11268645
Holy shit you are a such a dumb kike

[Anonymous No.11268906]

>>11268865
Nothing you're saying has anything to do with taxes. You've shifted the goalposts into the fucking stratosphere.

Not one of you morons has responded seriously to a single point I've made in this thread, you just keep bleeting on about muh gibs muh minorities. Absolutely pathetic.

[Anonymous No.11268915]

>>11268906
Yes we have refuted your retarded points you just want to keep repeating them like a stupid fucking barking seal

[Anonymous No.11268920]

>>11268915
see
>>11268389

Either go out and live innawoods or shut the fuck up and pay your taxes. It's really that simple.

[Anonymous No.11268936]

>>11268906
What a manipulative little scumbag liberal.

I hate you fucking rats so much.

>we are in massive amounts of debt that more welfare won't fix
>HURRR STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT NIGGERS POLTARD

Kys

[Anonymous No.11268944]

>>11268920
We already do pay taxes you massive retard. We don't want even more taxes to pay. What part of that is so fucking hard to understand

>go live innawoods
Literally illegal. You cunts have made it illegal to sustain yourself without society.

[Anonymous No.11268968]

>>11268944
>Literally illegal. You cunts have made it illegal to sustain yourself without society.

Lol. No it isn't. You might still have to contribute some property taxes (which by the way go almost exclusively to education) but this thread seems to be about income tax. The only thing stopping you is that you wouldn't have a clue where to even begin.

I've already illustrated the innumerable ways that you wouldn't be able to sustain yourself without society. The idea that you actually could, and you're just being prevented from doing so, is pure delusion.

[Anonymous No.11268969]

I really don't care either way. Bring on more welfare. The collapse is inevitable. The faster it happens, the better while demographics are still in our favor.

Every white person should quit their job and get on benefits. White people should stop slaving away to pay for niggers and join them in collecting gibs.

Being a tax cow is literally a form of slavery - paying for other people with your work.

[Anonymous No.11268979]

>>11268968
>fishing license
>property tax (you said so yourself)
>hunting license
>federal land
you literally can't. it's illegal. unlike you posh little city fags I know how to grow food and build things and hunt and fish.

[Anonymous No.11268989]

>>11268969
Back to /pol/ faggot

[Anonymous No.11268995]

>LMAO YOULL DIE WITHOUT SOCIETY
>ITS NOT LIKE HUMANS WERE HUNTER GATHERERS FOR THE MAJORITY OF THEIR HISTORY LMAO

[Anonymous No.11269005]

>>11268989
B2 reddit faggot

[Anonymous No.11269013]

>>11268979
>fishing and hunting licenses are preventing me from being a self-sufficient survivalist

LMAO cope harder. There are plenty of people who live like this. The difference between them and you is that they're not shitposting about black people on internet infrastructure developed with tax dollars.

If you actually had any authenticity behind the beliefs you're promoting you literally wouldn't be here right now having this conversation. You're just a whiny little bitch.

[Anonymous No.11269014]

>>11269005
t. 2016, 2014 at most

[Anonymous No.11269031]

>>11269014
That's cool man I've been here since 2008

[Anonymous No.11269032]

>>11267333
>cheque
probably because you're a BRITBONG ya fag

[Anonymous No.11269034]

>>11268003
Does that image show Pepe standing on the outside looking in as fire sprinklers activated or is Pepe indoors looking in front of his house at a McDonald's worker?

[Anonymous No.11269038]

>>11268995
Yeah they also had a lifespan about 1/5th of what yours will be and were fighting for survival constantly. Have what it takes? Go on, do it. Nobody gives a shit or wants to stop you.

[Anonymous No.11269043]

>>11268840
The only example I could think of would be the wild west which developed pretty well overall. But youre post is retarded since there isn't specific evidence for it as theres no place I know of with a tax rate lower than 5 percent

The roads in my town are a joke, just like Medicare, both run by government so fuck taxes commie

[Anonymous No.11269051]

Everyone should get on welfare and kill communists

Varg is right

[Anonymous No.11269059]

>>11269031
You were 8 years old in 2008

[Anonymous No.11269061]

>>11269038
>muh life expectancy meme

the liberal fears self-reliance, how will his pet nigger take care of himself in such an environment?

[Anonymous No.11269082]

In 3 weeks I'm due for leaving my job. Wage cucking is not worth it. I'm going to slowly cash out my 110btc and wait for the price to go up then become a tax resident in a country where there are no taxes for crypto and NEET forever.

t. Paying 30% income tax in straya

[Anonymous No.11269098]

you notice the psychology of the liberal - he lacks confidence in himself and his ability. he has to hide behind the masquerade of big government. he fears a society where he would be entirely self-reliant and responsible for his own decisions because then he would have to face himself for being the meek shallow man that he is.

[Anonymous No.11269112]

>>11268831
I think you added an extra 0 my belgium shit eating friend

[Anonymous No.11269115]

>>11268968


just because you can run some chink scam crypto for income doesn't make taxation justified. If all the stuff the government funded was funded with borrowed money, I don't see why we just let it all run on borrowed money. The only difference with taxes is they don't pay you back.

[Anonymous No.11269151]

>>11269115
Don't reply to the libshit Redditor fag. Anyone that can't figure out taxation isn't theft is low IQ. Even if you change his mind you are still wasting your energy.

[Anonymous No.11269168]

>>11267333
8000 paycheck
5000 allowed, even after a hefty amount donated to my (((their))) 401k account

[Anonymous No.11269175]

>>11269115
Honestly don't know what you're even talking about now. Why do the /pol/ish get so flustered and just start babbling about random unrelated shit when confronted with basic facts?

[Anonymous No.11269214]

>>11269175
The type of people that visit /pol/ unironically just be like that desu

[Anonymous No.11269339]

Question for you /biz/

If you had the option to opt out from taxes but lose all the benefits (no road infrastructure, no municipality offices, minimum police/fire department), would you do it?

[Anonymous No.11269360]

>>11269339
Hell yes.

[Anonymous No.11269373]

>>11269339
No

[Anonymous No.11269380]

>>11269059
Um ... racist and sexist much?

[Anonymous No.11269383]

>>11269339
>minimum police/fire department
Why minimal?
You should get absolutely nothing
That includes no access to any infrastructure built by the government (electricity, internet, phone, water, gas)

[Anonymous No.11269401]

>>11268389
its the % of your gross that is paid to taxes which is up for debate sperg

[Anonymous No.11269403]

>>11267333
profit 120k over last 2 years
owe 150k in taxes

[Anonymous No.11269429]

>>11268370
>the cops, the military
what would we do without these people?

[Anonymous No.11269450]

high taxed government welfare state is #1 bullshit

get rid of all gibs

[Anonymous No.11269490]

>>11268370
The British police literally allowed thousands of white girls to be raped

They are not loyal to you or anyone else

[Anonymous No.11269497]

>>11268765
>and those poor people you don't want to support
There wouldn't be so many of them if their parents knew there were no social safety nets to help out. Shaniqua would be a lot more responsible keeping her legs closed if she knew her and baby daddy had to pay without any help.

White birth rates are decreasing at an alarming rate because it's too expensive for the middle class to have 1 or 2 kids, meanwhile Monique shits out 5 for more welfare checks.

Welfare is literally the direct opposite of natural selection; we are helping and encouraging the bottom dregs of society to reproduce while the middle class has no children because they can't afford it.

It is an actual human tragedy that money gets spent on those who don't deserve it

[Anonymous No.11269517]

>>11269497
>Shaniqua would be a lot more responsible keeping her legs closed if she knew her and baby daddy had to pay without any help.

No she wouldn't, she's a retarded nigger. In the real world this would just lead to extreme levels of poverty.

[Anonymous No.11269531]

>>11269339
income tax does not affect those things other than highway roads. i would still be paying property and sales tax in my city.

[Anonymous No.11269549]

>>11267449
and that's a good thing

t. Buzzfeed

[Anonymous No.11269557]

>>11268731
easy to afford when its impossible to become a citizen and you filter out all the crime (brown skinned) people.

[Anonymous No.11269565]

>>11267333
Only 25% lucky fucker

[Anonymous No.11269591]

>>11269339
Why opt out of all of it? Instead you should be able to opt out of all the bullshit, do you know how little of those basic services take up of the budget while the rest is squandered?

No I'm not paying for chodeheads police/fireman pension

No my money isn't going to 6 figure rat faced lying politicians salary

No my money isn't going to road construction companies that pay overtime to faggots holding a sign

No the sports stadium/faggot new company is not getting a subsidy

No I'm not paying to jail people for victimless crimes

[Anonymous No.11269614]

>>11269339
If I can opt out, can I pay someone DIRECTLY to get access to those services when I need them? (Which would come about by real demand)

[Anonymous No.11269684]

>>11269614
Of course anon. There will be no shortage of kind-hearted criminal syndicates who will happily charge you a premium for "protection" after you decide to go it alone and forfeit your societal privileges.

[Anonymous No.11269839]

>>11269497
>while the middle class has no children because they can't afford it.
this is bullshit. they could afford it very well, they are just lazy, greedy and neurotic. also people with children are generally looked down upon from the general public, because youre only valued as a higher human being if you make a career and have status as individualised salesman persona. raising children is in the end an altruistic act in modern society, and people are the opposite of altruistic, even worse, they all become narcissistic because even their most basic needs arent fulfilled

[Anonymous No.11269978]

>>11269112
Why would you think that?

[Anonymous No.11270002]

>>11268389
Know what faggot why the fuck not, you seem guenine /leftypol/ enough that I guess I'll respond to your strawmans.
>You complain about entitlements but the only entitled one is you, who wants all the benefits of society but doesn't want to contribute.
No this is an adhom. We're against the modern state and tax because labor that is taken away without contractually bounded consent is equal to not only theft but slavery to our system or ethics. I donate to my wants and don't use public services at all because of my morals. I pay my tax reluctantly because to me its grotesque and immoral.
>Come at me you brainwashed knuckleheads
Wait wtf nigger? What do you want to argue about? All you've fucking said is your a bunch of looser who are anti-civilization and made no other real arguments? Its almost as if your giving yourself a way to slip out of arguments when you get cornered like with>>11268920

The truth is that this is about ethics not practicality. Like how slavery might have been practically a great idea for utilitarian philosophy but is utter shit when it comes to an actual system of ethics that isn't. Now fuck off faggot.

[Anonymous No.11270103]

>>11267333
It's every worse once you factor in sales tax and all those other taxes. You're effectively giving more like 50% of your paycheck to the state.

[Anonymous No.11270126]

>>11267333
>he doesnt collect unemployment while doing undocumented side jobs for secret cash

[Anonymous No.11270130]

>>11267333
hey hey hey lossosers , remember that you also pay VAT on purchases

[Anonymous No.11270143]

>>11269684
Mexican detected

[Anonymous No.11270205]

>>11269339
police and firefighters have never helped me once in my life.

[Anonymous No.11270269]

>>11268153
eurocuck here aswell

feel free to off yourself you fucking niggerfaggot, its people like you thats responsable for turning europe into a sandnigger breeding ground

i would kill to get the american system instead of this degenerate niggercare system

[Anonymous No.11270643]

>make 3750 a month
>that is 2k after taxes

Thanks Germany

[Anonymous No.11271039]

>>11268370
Agreed, but I think the argument here is "what is excess".

Assuming OP has no retirement funds, 25% is pretty excess if its all going to 100% tax.

Also, judging by the way OP spelled "cheque", he's most likely living in a country with universal healthcare, which in that case 25% is justified.

[Anonymous No.11271073]

>>11267333
OP try 2678.14

only 1711.83 in my pocket.

[Anonymous No.11271402]

Thank you for your contribution OP.

[Anonymous No.11271421]

>>11267333

[Anonymous No.11271505]

Most our taxes go to them building their underground networks

[Anonymous No.11271812]

>>11269112
Proof

[Anonymous No.11271842]

>>11271812
fucking herpa derpa language

[Anonymous No.11271858]

>>11271842
Yea it's Dutch. Green before, red after taxes

[Anonymous No.11271914]

>>11271812
ja, ge krijgt da toch niet het bruto loon, wij rekenen toch automatisch in netto. Dus wat maakt het uit? Probeer eens een werkgever te zijn, dan ben je pas geneukt

[Anonymous No.11271918]

>>11268632
He's kinda right though. The US spends a lot more money per citizen than most European countries and is the country that spends the most on healthcare per citizen.

[Anonymous No.11271940]

>>11268389
People often answer to this kind of post in one of two ways: either they go full ancap with "not a voluntary contract" innawoods responses, or they downplay the help that public infrastructure does give us

But both of these, and you in your post, are wrong
Because before 1916 there was no income tax except during emergency, and yet we still paid for roads and city infrastructure and govt buildings and libraries and wars and so forth
Income tax is frankly disgusting if you think about it
Why should the government take SO much? from even the poor? especially when the bottom 50% of earners only make for 2% of tax revenue

[Anonymous No.11271948]

>>11271914
Helemaal waar, maar 2000 --> 1500 van OP is gewoon relatief weinig.

[Anonymous No.11271957]

>>11271842
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.11271972]

>>11267951
suck it

[Anonymous No.11271977]

>>11268153
based and chill pilled

[Anonymous No.11271990]

>>11270269
you would be free to move there if you were not an ahmed in denial, dear friend

[Anonymous No.11272005]

>>11269557
No shit

[Anonymous No.11272060]

And an other big scam in Belgium is when you buy a house. I'll take mine for example.
I bought my house 3 years ago for 330 000€. I had to pay 10% (now reduced to 7) registration costs. That's an extra 33k. WHY THE FUCK?
So ok i bought a house, payed some extra shit, now what then happens?
>Oh hello sir, you have a house.
>You need to pay every year because you have a house.
It's called cadastral income (don't know if this is the correct translation) and it costs me 850€ every year. Do other countries have this thing?

[Anonymous No.11272087]

>>11272060
We have property tax in the U.S. Basically we do not own our homes. We are borrowing it for a annual fee, after we paid for the house. It's called getting Jew'd. You should know that term really well.

[Anonymous No.11272093]

>>11267344
same in canadastan

[Anonymous No.11272096]

>>11272060
That's literally just property taxes you dumbass. It pays for local infrastructure like garbage collection, firefighting, sewage etc (at least in my area). Go look up how your country works. Most countries will have a country wide tax (federal), regional tax (state/province) and a city wide tax (municipal) and each of those are in charge of different things. All countries should be similar to some level

[Anonymous No.11272193]

>>11268598
A lot of money goes to the dindu tribe, yes. Most goes to special military budget where new toys are made and rebels, near whatever european syrian camp you call home, are armed with outdated tech.

[Anonymous No.11272230]

>>11272096
No no, we have to pay for garbage collection every month. We pay (free translation) Village and province taxes for the rest of those things. The 850 is just something extra.

[Anonymous No.11272239]

>>11272060
Hoe lang moet je nog afbetalen en aan hoeveel %?

[Anonymous No.11272261]

>>11268370
>live in 'murica
Come and try, faggot. Even my dog is armed.

[Anonymous No.11272284]

>>11272239
Een deel nog 13 jaar (1375 per maand 2.1% vast) en een deel 22 jaar(400 per maand voor in te brengen op de belastingen 2,71% vast)

[Anonymous No.11272337]

>>11272284
valt nog mee, wel zwaar om 1375 alleen te betalen en 2.1% is nog mooi. Goeie tijd ingekocht

[Anonymous No.11272368]

>>11272337
K heb een vriendin waarmee ik het huis heb gekocht dus met zen tweetjes kunnen we nog wel aangenaam leven voor de rest. Eerst betaalde we 1350 de maand aan 2.71% maar ben dan van job veranderd en dan ging het wat vlotter. Lening opnieuw laten bekijken. De bank deed natuurlijk wel moeilijk. Uiteindelijk moesten we 36000€ minder betalen. Kreeg achteraf wel via via te horen dat ze me bij de bank een arrogante zak vonden. Takes one to know one zeker.

[Anonymous No.11272382]

>>11267378

More accurately:

>Who's gonna pay for mom and dad's social security, Goldberg Enterprises' subsidy checks, and Lance Corporal Cuckson's $25,000 uniform if you don't

Welfare is a meme used to distract us. The government is robbing us blind.

[Anonymous No.11272388]

>>11268389
>I can't last even a week without welfare for single mothers

you're a retard son

[Anonymous No.11272405]

>>11272368
Wat? Je mag je lening toch laten herbekijken, klant is koning. Heb mijn lening dit jaar afbetaald (wegens verkoop van zaak, niet crypto) en bij de bank probeerde ze me te pushen om het niet te doen maar uiteindelijk waren ze vriendelijk. Heb wel echt geen geld meer om te leven nu en geen werk meer, maar ja

[Anonymous No.11272423]

>>11269034

>Wagie wants to evacuate because the building is on fire but his boss said he has to work overtime without pay today so he has to wait 2 hours before he can leave

Your comment gave me a whole new perspective on that comic

[Anonymous No.11272431]

>>11269034
He’s looking st the McDonald’s worker getting rained on from the comfort of his home.

[Anonymous No.11272444]

>>11267489

please forgive his insolence master

[Anonymous No.11272448]

>>11271940
to keep you in check like the cucks you are

[Anonymous No.11272451]

>>11272382
Faith in /biz - restored

[Anonymous No.11272477]

>>11268169
based new start + rent assistance chad

[Anonymous No.11272488]

>>11272405
Ja ik begreep het ook niet goed. Het zijn inkomsten die ze mislopen he.
Ze zeiden ook van: je hebt hier geen brandverzekering, geen pensioensparen, we kunnen echt niet lager gaan.
Gedreigd om naar een andere bank over te stappen (laten vallen dat we toch geen kosten moeten betalen voor een nieuwe akte omdat mijn vriendin voor een notaris werk) en ineens hadden we een veel lagere procent.

Huis afbetaald klinkt wel relaxed. Moest ik in jouw plaats zijn dan zocht ik me een chille job zodat ik voor de rest nog wel wat kan leven, zolang men crypto's nog niet gestegen zijn tenminste.

[Anonymous No.11272517]

>>11268853
>implying your taxes go to migrants
>not the trillions we spend on eternal wars against sand niggers 8000 miles away.

[Anonymous No.11272522]

>>11268182
>taxation is theft!
>i get nothing from this!
t. first one dead if there wasnt a legal system coercing thugs into line
You literally owe your life and livelihood to society. Pay your fucking dues.

[Anonymous No.11272532]

>>11272488
Die brandverzekering was wel verplicht gekoppeld aan de lening bij mij. Maar zetten ze je ook met in't zak. Denk da'k die ga annuleren eigenlijk.

Ja dat is het plan, ben crypto aan't verkopen nu om te leven, kan zeker niet de bedoeling zijn. Ik ga slapen man, leuk om eens een goed belgisch gesprek te hebben hier

[Anonymous No.11272533]

Somebody needs to pay for Becky and Tyrone's baby

[Anonymous No.11272549]

>>11268853

You're not giving your money to minorities. When there are more minorities, you're paying more money to repair their property damage and to have more police officers to babysit them.

[Anonymous No.11272570]

You have to pay for the massive amount of government waste in basically every program ever.

You have to pay for the welfare queens including nigs, military plebs, single mothers/women in general, and all other forms of worthless fucks.

You have to pay for subsidies so we can be the most obese nation on the planet.

And finally you have to pay for the MASSIVE amount of boomer entitlements.

[Anonymous No.11272605]

>>11272532
Slaapwel!

[Anonymous No.11272620]

>>11272570
>And finally you have to pay for the MASSIVE amount of boomer entitlements.

I'm buying shares of a healthcare ETF to hodl for the next 30 years so all that money comes right back to me. I can't imagine an investment safer than one that relies on fat boomers getting heart problems.

[Anonymous No.11272623]

>>11268793
>LET THE BODIES PILE UP IN THE STREETS T. WALTON SIMONS

[Anonymous No.11272628]

>>11268389
>without the societal infrastructures that money pays to maintain.
The tax rate could be under 10% and all of these would still be maintained. You have no idea how little goes into infrastructure

>>11268396
If your neighbour steals your car, is it theft?

What if he takes 20 other people from the neighbourhood and they take your car together, but it is fine because they promise to buy bikes for everyone in the neighbourhood with the money they get when selling your car. Is it theft?

Tax is theft, no way around it. But the truth is that there is just no way to avoid it unless you want to destroy your own life in the process.

[Anonymous No.11272644]

>>11267333
The system is a joke.
>Let's tax the fuck out of everyone while our own politicians have offshore accounts to avoid the very tax regulations they set out.

[Anonymous No.11272733]

>>11269082
>become a tax resident in a country where there are no taxes for crypto
You think it is a good idea, but it is really not. I can't recommend it to anyone. Also know that there are almost no tax-free countries where you can get residence just like that

[Anonymous No.11272756]

Sweden now charges $8000 a semester for college - used to be free

Hmm I wonder what changed?

[Anonymous No.11272760]

>>11267333

>$2500 gross
>$1600 net

[Anonymous No.11272797]

>>11272756
That is bullshit. Still free for EU citizens

[Anonymous No.11272808]

>>11272797
My friend in Gothenberg says it is 8000 semester

[Anonymous No.11272904]

If you want to get back at the system, literally just get on welfare. Fuck them.

Eventually society will get to the point where there's 10% white people and only 5% of the population is supporting the rest with their taxes like South Africa. If you want to stop things from getting to this point, get on welfare now.

Otherwise quit complaining that you have to work while no one else contributes. It will continue as long as you support it to.

[Anonymous No.11273108]

>>11272808
What school?

[Anonymous No.11273471]

>>11267449
But anon all races are the same! Save all humans! Nobody deserved poverty!

[Anonymous No.11273499]

>>11272093
Not anymore when MAD MAX Bernier wins 2019

[Anonymous No.11273537]

i just want to know why companies can lie and tell you that youve made a certain amount and that your wage is what it is when chunks are guaranteed to disappear. in fact i wonder why nothing seems to append taxes to them, it pisses me off and is totally misleading. nobody would work a mcjob if they knew it was actually a 5 dollar and hour position

[Anonymous No.11273558]

>>11268726
it would be more like 400,000 in burgerstan

[Anonymous No.11273701]

>>11273499
What are the realistic chances that his party getting enough seats to be opposition, i.e the AfD in the German election. I'm just curious.

[Anonymous No.11273712]

>>11273499
>>11273701
Especially considering it's Fptp a system that heavily favors the mainstream/status quo parties.

[Anonymous No.11273739]

>>11268632

>I like to finance interests that try to actively destroy me and my people
>Durr taxes are gud cause road

A literal cuckboi.

[Anonymous No.11273781]

>>11267333
>$5000/mo
>$3600 after tax
>I'm still going to owe the gov't in April because I'm single and don't own a house

[Anonymous No.11273849]

>>11268389

>roads
>utilities
>military
>basic rules of law to protect innocents, workplace abuse, and corporate abuse of power

What exactly else to do we need? Oh that's right fucking nothing. All the other shit they added was a con to bring in more tax dollars and expand government power. Our current government is way to powerful and way too overfunded.

An efficient mind with productive workers could cut our government size and government spending in half.

[Anonymous No.11273852]

I work two jobs, one paycheck every two weeks for 6 days of work is 2.5k, I see like 1.6k of it. Second job is weekly paycheck 2 days a week for 1.1k, I see 890 of it. The fuck kinda bullshit is this? basically a good 30% of my wages just poof into thin air. Taxation is theft. Then taxed on every crypto to crypto trade, then taxed again when you try to convert it to useless paper fiat.

[Anonymous No.11273861]

Here in Aus, weekly salary ~$4400, after school loan and taxes it's $2500...

[Anonymous No.11273868]

>>11268389
Only a couple percent go to roads and shit dumbass the rest goes to ruining society.

[Anonymous No.11273919]

jesus christ I make 1200 cad every two weeks I'm so fucking poor

[Anonymous No.11273948]

>>11268389
Based and reason-pilled, this Anon has it right

[Anonymous No.11273961]

I make 5800 a month that somehow gets ass raped into 4400.

[Anonymous No.11274059]

>>11269684
Ok so free market means organized crime. Except if we talk about the wild west mentioned earlier, those white folks managed the lowest crime rate in American history.

Buts let's agree for a moment and acknowledge that humans can be faggots (like you), and abuse others.

So why the fuck should we be forced to give that money (also at an unreasonably high percentage) to the same worms that we agree would make something like a mafia (like minded mentality, to take advantage over others). Basically being forced to give shitheads money is cancer and fucks your society.

Also you're a cuck piece of shit and you're personality triggers me.

[Anonymous No.11274238]

>>11273861

that's a big salary you cheeky cunt

[Anonymous No.11274273]

>>11272522

I own guns I doubt it

[Anonymous No.11274296]

>>11273861
What do you do for a living?

[Anonymous No.11274305]

>>11268153
If half my paycheck is going towards maintaining infrastructure then why is everything so rundown and shitty? The roads have potholes that stay there for decades

[Anonymous No.11274324]

>>11268370
Military people pay taxes too despite have shit wages. They even have to buy their uniforms and shit

[Anonymous No.11274420]

>>11267333
1 world autists dont even realize how good they have it, atleast you have good roads or good hospitals or good school or all three of them, here in mexico you get paid shit, you still pay some taxes and literally everything is built like shit

>tfw local hospital doesnt have a front door so you are freezing your balls there while sick as fuck