Is this a scam coin?

[Anonymous No.11227952]

I have seen threads about Nano and I am worried about the near total lack of rebuttal(s) from the Nano community. Arguments against Nano seem solid, albeit some hyperbole, but the nano crowd more or less only produces nonsense and verbal abuse, instead of actually trying to to debunk the devastating claims against Nano (if true). Here are some of them:
>>11202421
>>11194543
>>11194689

1. So, is Nano a scam coin?
2. If yes, what to buy? Stellar? https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-best-crypto-currency-to-buy-in-September-2018
3. Is there a way to trade Nano OTC?

What does the aggregated wisdom of /biz/ say?

[Anonymous No.11227962]

1. Yes
2. Nimiq

[Anonymous No.11227964]

>>11227952
Sorry, this is the correct link to the article:
https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-best-crypto-currency-to-buy-in-September-2018/answer/Marius-Kramer

[Anonymous No.11227974]

>>11227962
>Nimiq
Thanks for answering. Why and where can I find more information?

[Anonymous No.11227981]

>>11227974
>more information?
Outside the normal platitudes and shilling articles, of course.

[Anonymous No.11227996]

>>11227974
>>11227981
Check out the website nimiq.com. Make a wallet in the safe there and see for yourself how smooth it is. Most info is also on there.
If you have questions, join the official Discord, it's a lot better than the telegram.

[Anonymous No.11227999]

>>11227996
Thanks, will look into it.

[Anonymous No.11228051]

1: No. It is an open source project. Anybody can read the code and see if it's a scam or not.

2:....

3: I don't undersant this question since you can simply trade any coin OTC. If you are asking if there is a platform that makes it easier to do, there is, it's called localnanos,

[Anonymous No.11228064]

>>11227999 OP don't believe in this shit pajeet >>11227996

But yeah NANO is shit

[Anonymous No.11228091]

>>11228064

[Anonymous No.11228106]

>>11227952
nobody answers that faggot anymore because it's useless, he keeps spamming the same shit even if it's debunked, each time copy pasting even more FUD bullshit and making grow into a massive wall of text, making it unviable to keep answering all of them, that's why people gave up. At this point, if you fall for it and not DYOR, we don't even give a fuck anymore. Nano will explode soon regardless of biz

[Anonymous No.11228238]

>>11228051
1. Scam is distribution, false claims about 7000 TPS, pumped by Italian scammers, any involvement of Nano devs and Bitgrail that is not disclosed etc etc
2.
3. With OTC I mean ability to trade large quantities that would otherwise tank or spike the market due to low liquidity.

[Anonymous No.11228254]

>>11227952
Some guy stole 21% of supply and been selling all this time. That guy is probably nano team. Enjoy your bags.

[Anonymous No.11228270]

>>11228106
>even if it's debunked
I have seen repeated claims that it has been debunked, but every time when asked about where and when, the claimant just disappear or hurl verbal abuse. That is worrisome, to put it mildly, so where can I find all his points debunked?

>Nano will explode soon regardless of biz
Why would Nano do any better than, say, Stellar?
https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-best-crypto-currency-to-buy-in-September-2018/answer/Marius-Kramer
And why are these kind of unfounded predictions from very hyped up and over-optimistic Nano bag holders presented as some kind of argument? Wouldn't it be better to try to substantiate such claims, instead of just stating them?

[Anonymous No.11228281]

>>11228254
Bitgrail was a disaster in so many ways. I do believe the Nano team is somehow involved, but not behind it. Do you have any documentation/information outside what is presented here?
>>11194543
>>11194689

[Anonymous No.11228343]

>>11228270
>say, Stellar?
Or rather Elastos?

[Anonymous No.11228345]

>>11228281
No, but the fact that Bomber knew he was fucked and nano team knew it was fucked as well is enough for me to tie them together. Fuck nano, fuck bit, fuck bomber. And anoyone who says nano team didn't knew is a lying piece of shit, they were approached by merca and what was that other exchange it was traded on, livecoin(?) and those two actually frozen nano withdrawals at the time.

[Anonymous No.11228378]

>>11228345
Compared to other coins, Nano has a substantial legal risk. It might even influence a future listing on Coinbase, or at least a delay.

[Anonymous No.11229093]

>>11228106
The Nano community hasn't been able to debunk anything. Whenever a thread is posted criticising Nano, they flood in like mosquitoes just spewing garbage. Things like 'FUD!!!!' or 'F**k off!' or 'I can't be bothered to read all that text! but it's lies!' or ' I can debunk, but I won't'

Honestly retarded.

[Anonymous No.11229165]

>>11229093
>I can't be bothered to read all that text
it's true, the reason it was made to be so big was made people not want to read and answer all of that trash. biz doesn't influence the market enough to be worth the trouble, specially when it's related to nano. time will tell who was right

[Anonymous No.11229190]

>>11229165
this is the only coin who's bagholders act like this
maybe cashies too?
you can get more substantial answers from linkies than this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.11229206]

>>11229093
That's my impression as well. Maybe it's time to just accept it and cut the losses?

[Anonymous No.11229253]

>>11229165
>biz doesn't influence the market enough
Not biz in itself, but information tend to spread from biz to the rest of the market, especially when you have new information that is unanswered. To say that it's too much information so not a single point can be answered makes no sense at all. Only idiots don't bother to gather information and analyse when investing. This does not look good, at all...

[Judge Doom !WiteRY.r/o No.11229346]

>>11227952

Let me explain the scam to you:
>final product is totally useless in the real world
>worth anthing

The simple truth is that it doesnt matter how scamy the devs. are or anybody else is. The project is worthless in any case. No matter how little I pay for these shitcoins its always too much and I thus always get scamed.

Also:
>IoT is just a meme

[Anonymous No.11229359]

>>11228254
>probably
So you have no evidence at all then? Pretty sure they arrested the guy responsible for the bitgrail debacle.

Almost all this fud centers around Bitgrail and the TPS.

TPS is infinitely scalable, but you need infinite computing power to reach it. You would have to rent a supercomputer to prove it. I guess no one has bothered yet.

Bitgrail is a separate company. Its like calling bitcoin a scam because of mt gox. While bitgrail was a shitshow that had very little to do with nano itself.

[Anonymous No.11229397]

>>11229253
Except that multiple threads where the questions were posted more individually instead of in barrages, they got answers. Also, they have all been asked multiple times in the nano plebbit, and answered again and again. Any semi serious """investors""" could google a few and check for themselves. I'm only going to link an answer the very first question, about the TPS and not going to spoonfeed you faggots any more than that. You can search for yourself if you want more than that.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/98hqkv/is_there_a_plan_to_scale_nano_to_10000_tps/e4gxufk

[Anonymous No.11229451]

>>11229359
>TPS is infinitely scalable
No, you have physical restrictions in the real world. What predictions and testing have the Nano team done?

[Anonymous No.11229468]

>>11229397
Your link does not address the 7000 TPS claim and how Nano will compete with VISA and other currencies in the future. Your link stated that there were problems for the nodes already around 700+ TPS and that there are real limitations regarding hardware etc, not infinite as so often falsely stated by Nano advocates.

[Anonymous No.11229492]

>>11229468
>address the 7000 TPS claim
Because that was a theoretical calculation that an user did ages ago of what it could potentially achieve eventually, which was never actually stated or defended by the devs. And people have stopped using that as a reference for ages everywhere except on biz

[Anonymous No.11229509]

>>11229451
They did a user generated stress test that reached 700tps. It could have likely done much more if more people showed up.

[Anonymous No.11229528]

>>11229397
>Except that multiple threads where the questions were posted more individually instead of in barrages, they got answers.
All I ever get is claims, but no documentation or substantiating of these claims. If true, it should be very easy to link to these articles, comments, documentation etc, not just hurl verbal abuse, as has been the modus operandi. Also, Nano subreddit has a habit of banning people asking reasonable questions. Investors post crash are looking more into the tech now, and some projects shine, while others fade away. Unless Nano starts to answer some questions, there will be no future for Nano. As a Nano bagholder, I will be really happy if I can see these questions answered, but quit frankly, what I see reminds me more of deflection than anything else.

[Anonymous No.11229538]

>>11229509
>eached 700tps
That is 10% of the promised 7 000 TPS.

[Anonymous No.11229581]

>>11229509
> stress test that reached 700tps
That's 10% of the promised 7 000 TPS. Seems like the Nano critic has a valid point.

[Anonymous No.11229587]

>>11229528
I just linked you one. If you post your questions there at nano plebbit a reasonable pace, I garantee they will answer you. Why don’t you try it?
>verbal abuse
Get off 4chan then, faggot
>Nano subreddit has a habit of banning people asking reasonable question
A straight up lie. Lot of criticism has been posted there and stayed, with no deleting or banning. Even I have posted literal FUD there in the past and never got banned
>as a Nano bagholder
You are not fooling anyone. We all know you already sold

[Anonymous No.11229597]

Yes it's such a scam in fact that they "rebranded" in order and try and confuse people

[Anonymous No.11229659]

>>11229587
>Get off 4chan then, faggot
I don't mind verbal abuse, but when that's the only "answer from a whole community, you get worried as an investor.

>We all know you already sold
I am done with you, moron.

Thanks, I got all the answers I needed from the Nano community. You have nothing. Bye.

[Anonymous No.11229756]

>>11229165
You've proved the point that the Nano community either have nothing where they can debunk the issues raised ...or are just lazy.
At the end of the day, if it is wrong, say how and where, just brushing it off as Nano people do just makes them look bad.

[Anonymous No.11229777]

I love how plebbit loves Nano even though it uses DPOS just like EOS which they hate because "OMG its centralized". "Might as well just use AWS amirite guise!?!?11!

[Anonymous No.11229782]

>>11229581
7000 is some number you pulled out of your ass. No one is saying that. The real number is infinity as long as you supply more computer power.

[Anonymous No.11229834]

>>11229782
>The real number is infinity
Delusional. Nano had a weak spam attack 2 months ago, struggled and crashed just with a few hundred TPS.

[Anonymous No.11229873]

>>11227962
I love Nim, nice driveby

[Anonymous No.11229885]

>>11229873
What does it do exactly? It just looks like shitty litecoin.