Is living in a van redpilled?

[Anonymous No.11047130]

You can get pic related, even with a toilet and shower inside for under $50,000. If you build it yourself you could squueze it under $30,000 probably. Is this the cheapest and most redpilled way to live? Just travel the world and stick it to the housing jews?

[Anonymous No.11047139]

>>11047130
Yeah if you like being a homeless sack of shit.

[Anonymous No.11047141]

>>11047139
dumb npc

[Anonymous No.11047143]

Where do you shower
Where do you poo

[Anonymous No.11047148]

Is living in a cardboard box redpilled? Shit where you want, shower in urine, get free needles to shoot heroin. Why give up halfway and live in a van, do something properly for once you piece of shit

[Anonymous No.11047154]

>>11047130
looks comfy desu

[Anonymous No.11047164]

>>11047143
pic related is what you can get inside any decent van
most converted vans also have a solar panel on top and fridge with a gas cooker

[Anonymous No.11047165]

I checked into this and to get one that you can actually stand up in it's just way too fucking expensive. You can just rent a room in the midwest for like $300 and you save just as much money. Tl;dr it seems pointless to me.

[Anonymous No.11047190]

>>11047139
>>11047148
I guarantee you most living vans look better than wherever you live
Enjoy finally owning a house when you're 50 years old, I'll be enjoying travel in my comfy $40,000 van

[Anonymous No.11047213]

>>11047130
Why not go homeless, its free

[Anonymous No.11047220]

>>11047164
does it have a septic tank?

[Anonymous No.11047227]

>>11047130
The only problem is no internet.

[Anonymous No.11047232]

>>11047227
unlimited at&t ipad internet for $30/,month with an lte hotspot/modem. google/reddit it.

[Anonymous No.11047235]

>>11047232
Based, I'm actually thinking about it now.

[Anonymous No.11047238]

>>11047165
I can't even find a $300 room and I live in a europoor country. And these vans aren't that expensive anon. Even pre-built ones that have everything from toilet, shower, cooker, fridge and AC go for around $50,000 and those are new. If you buy a regular sprinter van for $10,000 and convert it yourself you will learn a bunch of things and it will cost you under $30,000 probably. And you can travel around the world and take your home with you.

[Anonymous No.11047240]

>>11047190
wow this looks comfy as fuck. 40k is steep though considering you can get a house in the midwest for 120k.

[Anonymous No.11047243]

>>11047238
>I can't even find a $300 room and I live in a europoor country

[Anonymous No.11047248]

>>11047220
they have composting toilet, human shit is 90% water so it evaporates out of the van and you only have to dump the shit tank into the woods like once per year

[Anonymous No.11047264]

>>11047248
it doesn't stink?

[Anonymous No.11047274]

>>11047164
>you can shit and shower at the same time

[Anonymous No.11047277]

>>11047238
>>11047190
fuck it, maybe ill cash out what's left of my pathetic crypto and just buy one of these and go travel. this looks so great
>>11047190
is this a shop though? or a render
it looks too nice lol
surely if this is real it's a $100k van

[Anonymous No.11047294]

>>11047264
it only evaporates water and it happens slowly so no
>>11047277
not a shop, that's a real van, I believe it's a pre-built one, I don't know where are americans can shop for one but I know there's a bunch of dealers here in EU that sell ones like that for $50,000 exactly

[Anonymous No.11047305]

>>11047130
I can't imagine this is comfortable. there's almost no space.

[Anonymous No.11047306]

>>11047294
I guess the only problem is socializing--can't bring anyone back to your vancrib

[Anonymous No.11047307]

>>11047277
I don't know about the US but in Europe you can buy them here for example, bunch of them that even go under $50k

https://www.truckscout24.com/search/eng/list.asp?vehicletype_id=10&substructure_id=15&make=1004&model=&pricefrom=-1&priceto=0&yearfrom=2017&yearto=0&mileagefrom=-1&mileageto=1000&country=&price_type=2&action=View+vehicles&sort=dateofinsertiondesc&fuel_id=0&gearingtype_id=0&totweightfrom=-1&totweightto=0&powerfrom=0&powerto=0&catalysator_id=0&seats=&beds=&color_id=0&vendortype=&age=0&newCar=&accidented=-1

[Anonymous No.11047314]

If you're really interested check out cyclecruza's bug out van build or his channel bugoutmoto. He details everything and lists the costs and has many instructional video's on how he built the van.

[Anonymous No.11047322]

>>11047307
I wonder if I could rent one to find out if I'd want to kms after a week

[Anonymous No.11047325]

>>11047190
No. Most living vans do not look more comfortable than where I am living now. You want to know why? Because it's a fucking van. That's why.

Why in the motherfuck would anybody choose between owning a tangeable piece of real estate investment, and owning a smelly pretentious, depreciating heap of mobile garbage?

Do you think you're fucking funny or something?

[Anonymous No.11047342]

>>11047307
For an extra 30k you could just get yourself a fullfledged camper and actually get the space and room you need as a person to live. I've looked trough some of the photo's and although it eyes luxurious I don't think I could live in one of these.

[Anonymous No.11047347]

>>11047306
I mean most of the prebuilt vans are meant for 3 people, usually have 4 seats and huge bed, I even saw vans that have a bunk bed so 4 people could sleep and live there, only issue would be having to worry about water more often
>>11047305
the bigger ones actually have plenty of space, bed and seats, plus if you want more space you can go outside

[Anonymous No.11047351]

>>11047347
>plus if you want more space you can go outside
heresy

[Anonymous No.11047382]

>>11047342
the issue with RVs is that they are too big so you can't park in places where cars normally can and the fuel consumption is way higher, and a van is a lot more stealthy as in nobody will likely suspect anybody lives there

[Anonymous No.11047384]

>>11047190
>>11047130
Yeah it's great to throw 50k into a depreciating asset.

[Anonymous No.11047390]

>>11047347
It sounds really cool but I think practically it would suck, a lot. Plus a toilet in the shower? That's disgusting dude. I go into the shower to get clean not to get little bits of poop floating on my skin.

[Anonymous No.11047397]

>>11047382
Its great, if you're actually touring/travelling. But this is no way to live for anyone who's working a job and not nomading around.

[Anonymous No.11047403]

>>11047397
the Early Retirement Extreme guy did it

[Anonymous No.11047440]

>>11047390
I don't see the problem. The toilet is sealed and the seat cover is clean because of the constant showering
>>11047397
I mean it's literally no different than having a small apartment, I don't see how it would prevent from having a job and you could actually live 2 minutes away from it and not have to worry about daily traffic and stuff

[Anonymous No.11047462]

>>11047403
>>11047440
But if I buy this van, its value is depreciated by 30-50% after just a year. If I buy an appartment or house atleast I retain the value I put in. I don't really see the benefits of it other than dudelmfaosmokingweedinmynomadvan

[Anonymous No.11047464]

>>11047440
>I mean it's literally no different than having a small apartment, I don't see how it would prevent from having a job and you could actually live 2 minutes away from it and not have to worry about daily traffic and stuff
one worry of mine would be coworkers finding out and the info spreading, a van is so vulnerable

also negroes

[Anonymous No.11047468]

You need something with automatic climate control like the Prius otherwise the van will be miserable in hot or cold weather. That requires either a hybrid or full EV van.

[Anonymous No.11047477]

>>11047462
>buy an appartment
what strange europoor nonsense is this

[Anonymous No.11047478]

>>11047464
this is another thing, imagine parking somewhere and going to your job to go back and find out the entire interior of the van has been robbed? Yes it could happen to your house aswell but a van/car is just that much more likely to happen to.

[Anonymous No.11047497]

>>11047478
I guess you could mitigate this by living/parking in a white area or something, being a van nomad would make white flight so much more efficient

[Anonymous No.11047502]

I have a fucking cool van that I travel in. Have a family so also have a house but if it went tits up I'd be in the van full time and saving my money. Its doable and I wish I'd had van when I was a bit younger and in a position to save more.

[Anonymous No.11047507]

>>11047464
those vans have 10 cm of sheet metal walls and reinforced windows, it's more safe than your average house
>>11047462
that's a valid point but average house price in US is $200,000 and we are at peak of the housing bubble, some areas you won't find a house under $400,000
a van that you build yourself can be $30,000 and they actually hold value pretty good, I have seen even 6 year old ones selling for 70% of their original price
>>11047468
all the vans have solar panels and AC, otherwise it would be a nightmare in there
>>11047478
you can have alarms that notify you on your phone if it's been broken into, plus it's not easy to rob a van like that, much harder than your average house
not to mention a regular white van parked on the street is an unlikely target for robbery when thiefs don't know what's inside

[Anonymous No.11047519]

>>11047507
seems like with the white panel van you'd just have to shower at a gym or something, right?

[Anonymous No.11047536]

>>11047519
that's just a random parked van I found on google, but even that one could fit a shower although it would be cramped inside and not as comfy as the bigger vans

[Anonymous No.11047551]

>>11047507
>>11047536
Okay enough criticising then, let me introduce the tiny house as an alternative option. Costs about €50,000-€70,000. It's got a lot more room, it's all green energy and recycled water.

[Anonymous No.11047558]

>>11047551
that's even shittier than the van desu, who would want this? resale value next to nil outside of retarded hipsters

>>11047536
>that's just a random parked van I found on google, but even that one could fit a shower although it would be cramped inside and not as comfy as the bigger vans
is there a sweet spot? desu I prefer as cheap as possible but there must be some golden mean

[Anonymous No.11047562]

>>11047551
>>11047507
You can also have it build with a chassis and wheels under the home so you can hook it up to your car/van and move your home anywhere you'd like.

[Anonymous No.11047564]

>>11047558
I think its a lot better than a fucking van that's cramped as fuck. Plus it has all the benefits of a house without the price tag.

[Anonymous No.11047568]

>>11047564
I'd rather just get a house lol
the tiny house thing is just a fucking meme for people who can't accept that they should basically live in a trailer

[Anonymous No.11047577]

>>11047568
How about a nice cardboard box? Costs you nothing and the cardboard is an insulator keeping you warm

[Anonymous No.11047591]

>>11047577
you already suggested the $70k version of that

[Anonymous No.11047603]

>>11047591
This one seemed more appropiate for your budget

[Anonymous No.11047612]

this idea is why i own crypto

i don't need to be rich

just rich enough to travel around in a van

[Anonymous No.11047619]

>>11047603
>being dumb enough to blow 70k on a "tiny house"
kek

[Anonymous No.11047647]

The real route is to find some folks who don't mind a cheap plot. Buy an ancient RV for a few hundred dollars and camp in it until you feel financially comfortable enough to afford a place. I guess it really depends on if you care about the kind of box you're living in. I obviously don't.

[Anonymous No.11047649]

>>11047612
pretty much this here, although I can already afford a van like that, just considering if I should pull the trigger and do it but it would be 40% of my money gone
I hope you make it one day anon, and comfily travel the entire world

[Anonymous No.11047657]

>>11047647
sounds like a solid plan, just not as versatile as the DIY 30k van anon was suggesting

[Anonymous No.11047675]

DON'T do it if you are an introvert

[Anonymous No.11047683]

>>11047649

if you have enough to buy the van and still have 60k left that would be all i was aiming for

good luck

[Anonymous No.11047684]

>>11047657
There are better and worse ideas, I'd say. I wouldn't want to drive my home to work. The real way to do it, I'd say, is a truck and a fifth wheel camper. Post your home up somewhere in the hills, maybe a campsite or something, and have the versatility of driving the truck wherever you want without having to move your whole setup constantly. I guess it really depends on how little you want. I'd hate to be living on the side of the highway with a blown up motor waiting on a guy to come and haul my house off, though.

[Anonymous No.11047688]

>>11047675

being an introvert seems the perfect reason for doing it

i never need to see another human being ever again

[Anonymous No.11047693]

>>11047684
van + scooter or something perhaps

[Anonymous No.11047703]

>>11047688
>>11047688
How do you figure? Mechanics, people at camp sites on vacation, people at the places you're showering and shopping. I mean, I can see a few reasons it could put you into a situation in which you need to confront human interaction. But I find that to be good for people with social anxiety too. Maybe people who are introverts for other reasons not so much.

[Anonymous No.11047712]

>>11047693
Yeah, or maybe one of those electric bikes if you're in an area with well maintained roads and so forth. Hook it up to the back with a cargo bay and keep a spare battery handy, drive it around town. Would be a real gamble leaving the van somewhere dense like that though, I'd think. Would definitely want to pick somewhere with security cameras. Or I guess you could rig a security setup, too? Maybe with a 4g connection you could stream trackers and cameras. Hell, some new vehicles you can keep from starting digitally even. The future is getting pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.11047730]

>>11047703

i can pretend i don't want to be totally alone when i have to and can get by very well in social situations

i'd just rather not, but realise this isn't very likely

i could accept a 90/10 ratio of non-interaction vs interaction though

[Anonymous No.11047731]

>>11047130
When are 3d printed houses that cost under 10k gonna become available to purchase

[Anonymous No.11047732]

>>11047712
all cars for the past 10 years or so have immobilizer on the engine, which literally prevents it from starting if you don't have the key to which it connects, so worst case scenario somebody robs your laptop or phone that you keep in the van, doubt they would steal your clothes or dishes

[Anonymous No.11047768]

>>11047732
Yeah that's the point. You have an entire interior of a house in that van, they could steal it all. Nobody steals cars anymore, you steal the license plate.

[Anonymous No.11047828]

>>11047768
>>11047732
I've got a good safe, and I live far off from any place that a crackhead would care to hike to, so it works out pretty well. Never had anything stolen, or if I did I guess it wasn't particularly important. I'd just be nervous about parking a van in a city or something, considering that regular cars get their rims and so forth pilfered all the time. It'd just seem like a target. Maybe if it was an inconspicuous enough van.

[Anonymous No.11047892]

I’ll inheret a house in a few years and another one in 20-30. I don’t need to live in a van

[Anonymous No.11047899]

>2018
>unironically living in a van
>the actual state of america

[Anonymous No.11047912]

Run into a small fender bender but you also hit the front axle sure we can fix it but its going to take 7 days, now youre homeless and without a car. I would go the caravan route you can park that thing on a camping and drive into the city or just follow the season labor and travel around a bit

[Anonymous No.11047945]

Check this baby out:

https://www.clever-mobile.de/celebration-600/

only 38K EUR

[Anonymous No.11047977]

My house appreciated around 7% in a year.

Your van immediately lost money and will depreciate constantly

[Anonymous No.11047996]

>>11047130
Living in a van is literal hobo-tier, might as well live under a bridge

[Anonymous No.11048038]

>>11047945
damn that looks really comfy for 38k, I might actually buy that, wish there were more pictures of the inside

[Anonymous No.11048039]

>>11047238
Yeah $300 rent doesn't exist anywhere in the world that isn't crime infested or an actual building in the middle of nowhere, you'll either get robbed or have to drive an hour to get groceries

[Anonymous No.11048169]

>>11047477
americans are eay poorer on average than eurofags and we are fucking obese. we really need to fix our country everything went down the drain

[Anonymous No.11048191]

If I had something good to invest the money in (I own an apt) I'd love to do it. I'd get double freedom because I feel freer the less objects I own.

[Anonymous No.11048222]

>>11047164

sprinters suck get a proper rv

[Anonymous No.11048260]

>>11047507

im telling you right now from first hand experience hvac is a nightmare in vans. you are going to be spending all day in a starbucks because it will be way too hot to spend time in during the day

solar is not even close to being able to meet your ac needs so the only alternative is hookups or a generator

[Anonymous No.11048295]

It's too fucking cold to live in a van where I am.

[Anonymous No.11048297]

>>11048260
I feel like a massive solar panel and a big battery or two should be more than enough during the summer, worst case scenario will be charging the batteries at RV camps or ev chargers

[Anonymous No.11048317]

>>11047190
I own a 2500sqft house in a nice white suburb, and this looks.comfy to me.

[Anonymous No.11048336]

>>11047731
Never. How would they meet (((building codes))) goy?!

[Anonymous No.11048364]

You should definitely live in your van, frens. Nobody will call you an NPC when youre the autist that starts to smell one day and security makes you move. That's unique af

[Anonymous No.11048383]

>>11047731
Pretty soon I read about those on /biz/

[Anonymous No.11048509]

>be amerimutt
>live in richest country on the planet
>be half a mill in debt for student loans
>end up living in a van

[Anonymous No.11048522]

>>11047130
More than I bought my house for

[Anonymous No.11048600]

What aboit shipping container houses is that still a thing?

[Anonymous No.11048665]

>>11047139
this

its also dangerous and degenerate.

[Anonymous No.11048727]

>>11047130
also never buy a van that's ridiculous. At least buy a detachable camper/trailer so you can drive around without all your stuff.

[Anonymous No.11048777]

>>11048600
I looked into these but you'd have to buy land and convert them and all but also decently cheap option. The van is nicer imo since you can travel.

[Anonymous No.11048920]

>>11048727
But then you need to safeguard the trailer, which means keeping it on someone else's property, which will cost a lot more than free parking. In contrast the Van is stealth mode. You can even put stickers that suggest the van is part of a pest removal business.

[Anonymous No.11048934]

Check vids about how it is to live in a RV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_b-Czqd3Yo
>>11048777
dont buy a van. You want to be able to detach your house from your vehicle otherwise it's hell to drive this whole thing every time to go grocery shopping etc.

[Anonymous No.11049045]

>>11048920
yeah if you just want to stop anywhere and sleep wherever you want it's better. But it's much less spacious.

[Anonymous No.11049151]

>>11048600
>11.75$
perfect.jpg

[Anonymous No.11049162]

>>11047591
Holy shit this made me laugh

[Anonymous No.11049254]

>>11047130
Stop Shelly your shitty vans anon, I’m not buying your bags

[Anonymous No.11049305]

>Not sleeping in your cage

[Anonymous No.11049382]

>>11047384
>he thinks houses will appreciate from this point

[Anonymous No.11049439]

>>11047558
That land will appreciate no matter what.

[Anonymous No.11049449]

I've been living in a U-Haul for a couple weeks now. It's actually not bad at all. I never had a car before too so it's almost like I prefer it.

[Anonymous No.11049479]

>>11047190
I've owned my house since I was 24. 4 years ago

[Anonymous No.11049484]

I lived in a van in Canada with my girlfriend for 2 years, we spent $15 000 on it and it had toilet, shower, beds cupboards and full cooking facilities.

We easily lived working odd jobs here and there as we travelled around.

We're currently getting our boat ready to live on as we speak to do the same on the sea.

[Anonymous No.11049517]

americans are way poorer on average than eurofags and we are fucking obese. we really need to fix our country everything went down the drain

[Anonymous No.11049527]

>>11047130
lmao, good luck getting girls to bang on those shits

[Anonymous No.11049532]

>>11047274
>he doesn't poop in the shower and crush the load up so it fits down the drain

[Anonymous No.11049798]

>thread gets me interested in looking up second hand motorhome prices
Damn, looks like I'll be waiting for the motor housing market to crash.

[Anonymous No.11049876]

>>11049798
>stepfather's parents are mult millionaires in the newspaper business
>stepfather works a mediocre job at the city, stable with good bennies but like 40k a year
>waits for years for parents to die to inherit fortune
>stepfather is afraid to fly because of terrorists, plans to get an RV when he finally gets the money
>his parents eventually die, he inherits about $10MM
>goes out and buys the most expensive RV possible
>spends all day every day fucking with it, constantly needs a ton of maintenance
>spends like 500K on this peice of shit, never actually motivated enough to go on a trip
>always talks about going to all the places Guy Fieri goes to, he idolizes Guy Fieri in a way
>he gets cancer and dies
>mom needs money, tries to sell the RV but doesn't know shit about them
>eventually sells it for like $40K to a dealer, economy is still shit and gas is super high
>she loses like $200k on the fucking thing, never even went on a trip with it
>squanders all the liquid cash she got, constantly tries to cheat the trust so she can have more of his money
>already took out a reverse mortgage on her house
>mfw when the two of them turned $10mm into negative money within 3 years

boomers

[Anonymous No.11049887]

>>11047507
>all the vans have solar panels and AC, otherwise it would be a nightmare in there
can you run an ac on solar power? they're power hungry as fuck

[Anonymous No.11049905]

>>11049887
on battery, but a van has a huge space on top so you can have a big solar panel and won't have any issues powering AC and a fridge during summer. but in winter you might have to charge the batteries somewhere once a week or so, depending on the size and sunlight you'd be getting

[Anonymous No.11049914]

>being a hobo redneck is now redpilled
Whatever you say to justify your losses anon

[Anonymous No.11049921]

>>11047130
OP, you awoke now

[Anonymous No.11049935]

>>11049905
how much watts do you think would be necessary for the solar kit?
they're quite pricey, but overall less than a house of course.

[Anonymous No.11049936]

>>11047314
cyclecruzaaaaa

[Anonymous No.11049940]

>>11049798
motorhomes are expensive as fuck and they are a chore, you have to find special parking spots and those are usually paid and expensive as fuck, in a van you can park anywhere a car can park

[Anonymous No.11050005]

>>11049935
I think A/C in a van takes like 1000-1500W so you would need a 1500W solar panel to have it powered constantly and I think on the biggest vans you could easily fit a 1500W panel but I think 700-1000W would be more than enough with only running the A/C to cool the van and then turn it off until it gets hot again

[Anonymous No.11050022]

>>11047190
>have traffic accident
>lose house

Yeah nah, but thanks bud

[Anonymous No.11050105]

>>11050022
These vans are pretty sturdy and if that happened it takes like a week or two to have the van fixed, you surely must have friends or family that would let you live with them for the short time your home is not available.
>>11048934
how about pic related?

[Anonymous No.11050104]

>>11050005
the rated power is only for "optimal conditions" tho, plus you still need more power for fridge and electronics at least.

[Anonymous No.11050147]

>>11050104
a small fridge is like 50W and I bet the van ones are optimized to be even less than that
charging a phone is barely anything, like 3W
laptop would consume a bit more but I still think it would all run just fine off a 1000W panel

[Anonymous No.11050251]

guys, why not just live in a hole? and by live, I mean bury yourself alive, then suffocate to death.

[Anonymous No.11050667]

>not living in this

[Anonymous No.11050759]

>>11047141
Go be homeless then

[Anonymous No.11050834]

How do you bring chick home though

[Anonymous No.11050837]

>>11047384
there's more to life than net worth you know

[Anonymous No.11050857]

>>11049532
>he hasn't installed a disposall in his shower to do the work for him

[Anonymous No.11050882]

>>11050667
>the absolute state of europoors

[Anonymous No.11050948]

>>11050834
you don't
you bring home to chick

[Anonymous No.11050955]

>>11049935
Buy an Elon Musk house battery and charge it at free electric car charging stations

[Anonymous No.11051248]

>>11047731
this would make a sick bachelor pad

[Anonymous No.11051890]

>>11050955
That's actually a good idea, I bet you could power a van for months on that thing

[Anonymous No.11051977]

That's only stage 1 redpill, this guy is on stage 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2EgMCk0sts