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[Anonymous No.11002359]

are 35 million HOT enough to make it?
bought my stack in april and can't be bothered to put more fiat in now that all the dumb money has driven up the price.

[Anonymous No.11002374]

>>11002359
All the dumb money is holding ETH while it crashes. Holo hasn't even started.

[Anonymous No.11002405]

>>11002359
>can't be bothered to put more fiat in now that all the dumb money has driven up the price
Why does Holo continue to moon? Can someone explain that to me?

I decided to buy when it was around 200 vits on Binance but I waited for a dip that never came

[Anonymous No.11002417]

>>11002405
Because it's flipping eth.

[Anonymous No.11002422]

>>11002417
yeah, but why is it flipping ETH? I just don't get it.

[Anonymous No.11002433]

like right now this is pumping while everything is dumping. why?
it's literally going up, there are hundreds of thousands of dollars in buy orders. why?

call me a brainlet thats fine. i just want to understand

[Anonymous No.11002435]

>>11002422
smart money has realized blockchains are done for. Its the only binance coin in the green and heavily in the green

[Anonymous No.11002452]

>>11002435
>smart money buys at the peak
but aren't you supposed to buy on the dips? but this never dips
so what the fuck

are whales just not selling or what

[Anonymous No.11002470]

>>11002452
Holo is still undervalued considering it's market cap

[Anonymous No.11002477]

>>11002405
the thing is the risk/reward ratio is getting worse for every sat/gwei it goes up. there is also at least one copy of holochain out there already DYOR, the ICO is still ongoing - this doesn't really increase my confidence either. what makes holo immune against other companies simply copying the technology 1:1 ?

[Anonymous No.11002491]

>>11002470
>Holo is still undervalued considering it's market cap
Why? What makes it different from Constellation or any other platform coin with pie in the sky goals? It's not even fully developed. I looked at their code and while it's okay I don't understand the massive valuation. I mean even now it's just insane. 200 million dollars almost... I've just been waiting to buy and it just KEEPS GOING UP
it is making me crazy.

[Anonymous No.11002495]

>>11002477
>there is also at least one copy of holochain out there already DYOR, the ICO is still ongoing
just link it m8

[Anonymous No.11002509]

>>11002452
This is the last train for any substantial gains in crypto. Just grab a seat anon

[Anonymous No.11002510]

>>11002477
what is the copy of holo called?

[Anonymous No.11002517]

>>11002509
>tfw if I had just bought the "top" when I finally looked at HOT I would have gotten 3x as much HOT
kms

[Anonymous No.11002548]

>>11002510
metahash

[Anonymous No.11002561]

>waits for dip
>"fuck it, it's probably gonna reach a new paradigm now"
>FOMOs in when price stabilizes at around 660 gwei
>bought 7ETH at $220, total roughly $15k
>feels confident that I reached the train
>6 hours later
>dumps to 600 due to pedo skelly's shitty coin

Life is unfair bois

[Anonymous No.11002593]

taken from another thread
wtf
i gues ill just buy already
fuck it.
i hate you cunts so much

[Anonymous No.11002605]

it's already up another 7 vits
>>11002561
>>11002561
667 now.

[Anonymous No.11002629]

>>11002561
i have thought about buying more HOT for 5 days now but really can't be fucked to do it just because of how much more i could have had if i bought earlier. price increased so fast and unpredictable after binance. feelsbadman.jpg

the thing is also that i am scared that HOT's value will change after the swap. who knows how everything will play out..

[Anonymous No.11002630]

671!!!

[Anonymous No.11002723]

>>11002470
care to show your financial analysis that lead you to that conclusion?

[Anonymous No.11002725]

nvm it's dumping now. going to wait for the real dip. Finally.

[Anonymous No.11002742]

>>11002605
just the regret that I could have gotten both HOT and ETH much cheaper had I just waited 6 hours and hadn't FOMOed
Oh well, in this quantic universe, had I not FOMOed, it would probably be nearing 800 gwei now, and ETH would have retraced

[Anonymous No.11002851]

>>11002725
>>11002742
i swear to god someone is reading my posts and fucking with me.

[Anonymous No.11002867]

>>11002742
>tfw Mugabe is still alive, Berenstain bears ruined my childhood, and HOT is mooning despite our failure to enter at the right time

[Anonymous No.11002884]

>>11002867
might as well just buy in dude

[Anonymous No.11002894]

>>11002405
you know how blockchain promised distributed computing but only manage to produce slow as fuck virtual cat games and literal fucking ponzi schemes.
Holo tech can legit deliver what blockchain promised, not a couple of years from now but you can download, install and start fucking around with a working alpha. right. fucking. now.
holo is holochains flagship dapp but it's still just a dapp and it's coming online in the next couple of months and will legit kill pretty much every blockchain project except Bitcoin and monero.
everything else is slow obsolete bullshit in comparison.
what do you think happens to the price then?

[Anonymous No.11002901]

>>11002894
well I did download it but you cant actually connect to anyone yet so idk

[Anonymous No.11003026]

>>11002491
So why the fuck do you want to buy it if you aren't convinced on it?

[Anonymous No.11003038]

>>11003026
I'm trying to understand it, and it's going way up in price.

[Anonymous No.11003074]

>>11002867
>Berenstain Bears

At least you're in your native world-line ano

[Anonymous No.11003091]

>>11003074
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.11003105]

holo will become a totally different beast after the launch. there will be a dynamic supply and hosting supply/demand control the price. this has never been tried before it's an experiment. that's why i don't know if i should still buy in at these prices desu. as long as it was cheap the risk was much lower

[Anonymous No.11003136]

>>11003105
how much holo do i need to make it? are 5 million enough?

[Anonymous No.11003176]

>>11003105
>>11003136
In the latest AMA Matt said that the hosts will set the price of their fuel thus creating a competitive environment. So I think its only up from here.

[Anonymous No.11003202]

[Anonymous No.11003239]

>>11003038
Just quit being a faggit and buy in. You think it's not going higher than 20 sats?

[Anonymous No.11003252]

>>11003239
well it's at 666 which i feel is spooky. 667 is too high so i placed an order at 665. will dollar cost average down.

[Anonymous No.11003257]

>>11003038
Also how much fiat are you trying to put into it?

[Anonymous No.11003263]

>>11003176
but if there is no demand in the beginning price for holo could as well plummet quite a bit, it feel a bit like gambling on adoption desu. if we dont get adoption we are fucked right?

[Anonymous No.11003273]

>>11003136
That's exactly how much I have. We could get married and we'd have 10 million total together

[Anonymous No.11003284]

>>11003091
the mandela effect

[Anonymous No.11003285]

*feels

[Anonymous No.11003295]

>>11003273
>>11003136
>we could get married-
>he wants half of your holo.

[Anonymous No.11003303]

>>11003263
>he doesn't know about the list of dapps being developed on it as we speak.

[Anonymous No.11003304]

>>11003263
They've been working on this shit for 10 years. Binance listed them for free right?

Blockchain kind of sucks and this is the alternative to it.

I mean I don't even have to read one word of the white paper (and I haven't) plus all the memes on here.

There's just no way that I won't be able to own 50 Toyota corolllas a year from nkw

[Anonymous No.11003310]

>>11003273
comfy fren, you think 5 million is enough to escape wagecuckery 4ever?

[Anonymous No.11003315]

>>11003263
see
>>11003303

[Anonymous No.11003321]

>>11003310
I don't wagecuck. I steal money from my parents

[Anonymous No.11003333]

>>11003303
what list?

[Anonymous No.11003336]

>>11003303

Please, let me see. I'm just a poor holding 400k.

[Anonymous No.11003382]

>>11002359

It's any easy x100 dude, literally the last one left in crypto apart from Link. You'll be fine.

>>11002374

This. Eth is crashing partly because of Skelly confessing that PoS, sharding etc is still years away, meaning all the dapps waiting on the sidelines to be built aren't gonna happen (plus no staking). Offchain solutions like Loom aren't enough. Meanwhile Holo is around the corner and since the alpha works fine there's no reason to think mainnet will fail.

>>11002405

See above

[Anonymous No.11003413]

>>11003382
Really? Did skelly say this recently? Is the ETH community aware of this yet or are they still wondering why its plummeting? This would be an excellent time to shill holo to them.

[Anonymous No.11003508]

it's almost at ATH again. glad i finally bought some

[Anonymous No.11003601]

>>11003333
>>11003336
There use to be a more detailed list with what people were working on, but I can't find it right now. Only found this one, but it might be outdated.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1buiMXxc9n65FBdsORGT1REKsWnMDc8ffjMGJV2N0Lno/edit#gid=512020816

If you want to see real shit, real developer interest and real talk about this project, go to their Mattermost chat. Every single piece of FUD has been talked about and refuted there, so don't ask stupid questions, just read the history. I mostly lurk there cause there's some genius-level IQ guys and I feel like an ape compared to them and have nothing to contribute to the conversation.

[Anonymous No.11003795]

This project makes me all warm and fuzzy.
Hopefully we'll make it bois, trying to get to 1M from 700k poorfagolis.

[Anonymous No.11003872]

Everyone says it's about to dump but it's held 660 for 24 hours on massive volume. Doesn't that mean it's about to break out at any minute? In my experience this is usually the case.

[Anonymous No.11003963]

>>11003872
this is tru

[Anonymous No.11004004]

>>11002491
>>11002433
There are tons of new coins out there that are promising such as constellation and holo. When they are first released they are on smaller exchanges and then gradually work up towards larger ones. At the same time people begin to hear about it for first time and buy in. So valuation is moving it from undervalued at first listing to normal valuation as people who are interested are buying in. It's essentially finding it's true price.

[Anonymous No.11004010]

>>11004004
doesn't it seem overvalued now?

[Anonymous No.11004038]

got my first bag at 15sats....my eth is cratering, should I just fuck it an fomo in?

[Anonymous No.11004051]

>>11004038
my thoughts on this matter are basically >>11003872

[Anonymous No.11004126]

>>11004051
the only non shitcoin eth is up against on binance is BAT. Everyone is flooding out of ETH, Jesus.

[Anonymous No.11004367]

>>11004126
brutal! did you buy any?

[Anonymous No.11004686]

Keep in mind that HOT isn’t even listed in the major Asian exchanges yet.

[Anonymous No.11004717]

>>11004686
>Binance
>Not even listed in the major Asian exchanges

[Anonymous No.11004732]

>>11004717
binance is for round-eyes

[Anonymous No.11004768]

>>11004686
And if you look google trends, china and singapore are at the top of the search interest, when this is listed in asia, it's guna go ballistic

[Anonymous No.11004793]

>>11004768
jokes aside, do chinese and sinagporeans use binance?

[Anonymous No.11004823]

>>11004793
Not really. They use huobi and okex.

[Anonymous No.11004829]

>>11004823
huobi and okex charge lots of $ to list tho rite?

[Anonymous No.11004965]

>>11004823
>>11004793
binance is #1 in volume on many pairs, it's unironically retarded to think asians live in their own little crypto bubble and haven't heard of holo yet. they were the first to know even before the pajeets

t. holofag since april

[Anonymous No.11005003]

>>11004965
figured as much, thanks for weighing in
I'm thinking Holo has stalled at this point but I could see this being just another accumulation zone, too. HOT has been insane.

[Anonymous No.11005026]

>>11004367
No I got distracted by the kids, will check back later.

[Anonymous No.11005112]

>>11005003
most who rode the recent pumps have just fomoed in because it was all over twitter and top gainer in volume/fiat for a few days. normies are too lazy or dumb to understand holo and the overall sentiment is fucked since ethereum is crashing hard lately. holo's volume and hype are also stalling imo, there are no greater fools for the moment. i am betting on a downward correction within the next 7-14 days. if not fine, i am not a greedy mofo.

[Anonymous No.11005124]

>>11005112
Any idea why it trades at a premium on fatbtc?

[Anonymous No.11005164]

>>11005112
How has the volume and hype died you utter brainlet? It's fucking held 670 vits rock solid for like 16 hours on 50k ETH volume and 3k Bitcoin volume outside of an hour where everything shit itself and the dip got bought up instantly.

If you can't see it's already prepared for another pump just get out of crypto, this is going to be up 20% minimum when you wake up tomorrow morning.

[Anonymous No.11005165]

>>11005124
it used to trade at a discount on hotbit before all the hype started, i actually
created an account back then to buy some hot there. not really sure why that changed though, probably more expensive now due to lower liquidity.

[Anonymous No.11005185]

>>11005164
rock solid while ETH dropped 7% in fiat. no upwards movement in sight, you are the brainlet i guess. i am not fudding i will easily make it if hot turns out to be a success, i bought during the ico.

>>11005124
same for fatbit i guess, not just hotbit

[Anonymous No.11005217]

>>11005185
>no upwards movement in sight
>up 8% in 24 hours and 50% in two days

It's called consolidating for the next leg up you retarded fucking mongoloid, it's held these gains for almost 24 hours without dipping at all, this is not going down for a while.

[Anonymous No.11005492]

>>11002359
smart man. buying holo now is like buying eth at $1.50 in 2016.

[Anonymous No.11005589]

>>11002359

When is this shit going to dip huh? I need to accumulate more but it just keeps pumping?

[Anonymous No.11005628]

[Anonymous No.11005675]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL-DN3J_HsMZjRWyR_3vIIYPnx2Mt4FkOv&v=l3_KvicoLxE

[Anonymous No.11005711]

>>11005589
This is a dip. Idiot.

[Anonymous No.11005724]

>>11005711
was* apparently

[Anonymous No.11005777]

>>11005492
So does that mean this will all come crashing down after a year when a sexy-footed skeleton says "it's worthless"?

[Anonymous No.11005831]

>>11004004
There aren't a lot besides HOT and DAG that have a chance IMO. Rchain, Zilliqa and Dfinity are the only ones i can think of off the top of my head.

[Anonymous No.11005841]

>>11005831
Rchain's a meme and ZIL is a chink shitcoin, Dfinity is a science project

EOS is the only thing working and Cardano is hot on its trail but that's it, literally everything else is a shitcoin or a meme. XMR BTC BCH ETH HOT... everything else sucks

[Anonymous No.11005871]

>hurr
>durr

What are these assholes even doing?

[Anonymous No.11005876]

>>11005871
volume is on the eth pair

[Anonymous No.11005893]

>>11005841
>XMR BTC BCH ETH HOT... everything else sucks

This in such order
BTC, HOT, XMR, ETH, BCH

[Anonymous No.11006020]

>>11005893
fair enough

[Anonymous No.11006258]

>>11002593

that chart is textbook 5 minutes before a huge dump

[Anonymous No.11006265]

>>11006258
why's that?

[Anonymous No.11006271]

>>11006265
>>11006258
>>11002593
>that chart is textbook 5 minutes before a huge dump
(it's been about 7 hours since that picture was taken)

[Anonymous No.11006485]

>>11005841
I value your opinion but I don't think that's a fair analysis. Do you mind elaborating please? The chink problem with Zilliqa is valid and is the reason I don't own any, but without any other points doesn't say much. My issue with Rchain and Zilliqa is the obscure languages needed to dev on them. HOT is Javascript and DAG has JVM which are huge advantages. Dfinity is a bad investment because they already value themselves at $1.89B.