/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.10988837]

I'm now completely convinced that Elon Musk is a fraud. His empire continues to crumble as he fails to live up to his promises over and over again. There is a reason Silicon Valley hates this guy. It's because techies are smart enough to see past the bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10988870]

>>10988837
I have the exact same opinion, but not about Musk, but about Tony Blair.

[Anonymous No.10988890]

>>10988837
Citron faggot detected. Let's see u change the planet OP. You big fucking retard. Instead you are here shitting on our guy MUSK.

[Anonymous No.10988895]

>>10988837
What happened?

[Anonymous No.10988918]

>>10988895
He went on the Joe Rogan show, started babbling nonsense in a terrible interview, then started smoking weed.

[Anonymous No.10988930]

>>10988895
>publicly does drugs when already under intense media scrutiny for questionable behaviour
>investors justifiably sell
Just another day in Muskworld.

[Anonymous No.10988933]

He is like McCaffee. A fraud but a successful fraud... A thin line between the two.

[Anonymous No.10988944]

>>10988837
Of course he's a fraud dude. Elon musk is the largest welfare recipient in America.

Next time you drive through the ghetto and you see all these useless niggers on welfare, you should be thinking to yourself.... well they are bad but they aren't as worthless as Elon musk

A lot of supposedly high IQ people didn't think musk is a fraud when it's been so obvious for years

[Anonymous No.10988953]

>>10988944
You can literally just look at musk's face and immediately know he's a fraudster

[Anonymous No.10989015]

>>10988895
Boomer fags are whining about his appearance on the Joe Rogan show which is filmed in CA where TSLA is and weed is legal. I imagine senior citizens who remembered prohibition were pissed off when Howard Hughes had parties and banged hot old timey sluts

[Anonymous No.10989073]

>>10988837
Another Elon musk FUD thread

[Anonymous No.10989099]

>>10988837
>techies are smart enough to see past the bullshit.
You mean soiboi faggots on reddit by techies, I'm assuming? Kek. Elon is doing what Trump is doing, which is how I know unequivocally he's right.

[Anonymous No.10989128]

I told you fags this retard is a fraud, but nooo daddy musk is saving the world and a super genius!!

Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.10989161]

>>10988837
>Elon Musk is a fraud.
explain this photo

It's fraud when I say I am going to give you a cookie if you give me a dollar then I take your dollar and give you no cookie.

It's not fraud when I sell you the worlds fastest electric sports car for a fair price or get NASA contracts based on my literal proven spaceship technology company

-you are welcome for your less on what fraud is

[Anonymous No.10989172]

>>10988837
>>10989099
yeah, I've never seen any evidence that techies are particularly "smart." They wouldn't be my first go-to for information.

I'd say they're productive but not intellectuals.

[Anonymous No.10989180]

>>10989161
Please let me suckle on your balls daddy musk!

Lmao

[Anonymous No.10989216]

ITT: white people mad they are alive and breathing like always

[Anonymous No.10989226]

>>10989180
Imagine being so insecure about your sexuality that you wouldn't choke on elon's husk

[Anonymous No.10989258]

>>10988837
I don't get it. Did he say anything particularly stupid, or is this fallout all over him smoking weed? I thought weed was more socially accepted now, most CEOs probably do a lot harder drugs, and that's more or less public knowledge. Is this a reefer madness sell where boomer investors still see smoking weed like how it was portrayed in the 50s? Because for most people under 50 I think the response to this would be a big fat "So what?"

[Anonymous No.10989314]

There's a segment in that interview where talks about how the pace of electrical vehicle innovation is not moving fast enough and that society is subsidizing the oil industry as future generations will pay for the damage done to the environment. Pretty much convinced me to sell my Land Rover and buy a Tesla. I don't why people are fuzzing about this interview, the man is brilliant.

[Anonymous No.10989322]

>>10989216
>nigger what?

[Anonymous No.10989323]

>>10989258
You know how sex and drinking alcohol are legal? Well what if the CEO of a 50billion dollar company was running around calling people child rapists and fucking drug addicted pop stars half his age and tweeting about his stock prices with 420 weed humor sparking SEC investigations... and he did an interview knowing the world was watching. So to quell fears he, on the TV interview, deep throated and gagged a barely 18yo russian teen girl while chugging vodka and screaming about how what he was doing was legal (technically).

still might not be a good sign for investors of his integrity and leadership given he's companies 10 billion dollar debt load!

[Anonymous No.10989332]

>>10989314
>Pretty much convinced me to sell my Land Rover and buy a Tesla.
i bet

[Anonymous No.10989346]

>>10989314
*sucking noices*
-18.97 -6.75%
"mmm yes musk you are so brilliant please fuck my ass too"
LMFAO you bagholders are HILARIOUS

[Anonymous No.10989360]

>>10989258
It helps paint a picture of a mentally unstable degenerate burning through piles of investor money with all the good sense of a crackhead that won the lottery.

[Anonymous No.10989578]

>>10989323
>>10989360
He was on Joe Rogan, smoking weed is what you do on Joe Rogan. What did they expect? Binging vodka and fucking barely legal whores on air would be out of the ordinary and a genuine cause for concern, Joe convincing people to smoke is a time-honored tradition. If that's all it was about, the stock should have plummeted as soon as Elon announced his upcoming appearance.

[Anonymous No.10989587]

>Rockets drop off cargo into space
>land by themselves

FRAAAUUUUD REEEE

[Anonymous No.10989588]

>>10989578
people wanted him to allay their fears, instead he smoked drugs, stock went down

don't know what to tell you, call the investors who sold their stock and tell them what they should have done instead

[Anonymous No.10989615]

Isn't he a fucking genius? Doesn't he want to personally buy his company and make it private?
Isn't this the way to buy low? kek

[Anonymous No.10989696]

>>10988837
>smokes weed on podcast
>tsla takes a hit
>wants to take company private @ $420 a share
> w e e d

[Anonymous No.10989714]

>>10989588
>instead he smoked drugs
>marijuana
>laughinggirls.jpg

[Anonymous No.10989749]

ITT: normies who will never accomplish 1% of what Musk has

[Anonymous No.10989758]

>>10989749
>ITT: normies who will never accomplish 1% of what Musk has
You are right, I have never been ten of billions in debt with 0 profit to show

[Anonymous No.10989767]

>>10989615
Shh the investors aren't meant to know

[Anonymous No.10989830]

Good time to buy TSLA. It's too big to fail and has saved numerous governments with battery packs. The storm will pass. Don't be fooled biz

[Anonymous No.10989840]

>>10989830
>It's too big to fail

[Anonymous No.10989850]

>>10989830
~$180 is a decent buyi n point. Enjoy trying to catch a falling knife.

[Anonymous No.10989863]

>>10989323
I swear these fudders are posting from GM headquarters

[Anonymous No.10989869]

>>10988837
you would be surprised how many dipshits live in silicon valley

t. techie

[Anonymous No.10989947]

He has said on several occasions that he does not care about stock AND that he thinks it's overvalued.

As early as some 2011 interviews.
Big deal, wait for Q3 results and the fundamentals - till then, it's just another short hysteria.

[Anonymous No.10989952]

>>10988918
Kek he took one puff

[Anonymous No.10990019]

>>10989696
Is he crashing the stock price so it's easier for him to buy it out and make it private?

[Anonymous No.10990036]

>>10988837
>duuuude duuuude hold on, would be cool if we send a car to the space nigga *cough *cough, we will even get tax money for it BITCH!!!

[Anonymous No.10990058]

>>10990019
He doesn't care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjq6tXRKfUQ

[Anonymous No.10990072]

>>10990019
obvious 4D high level maneuver,
"Buy Tesla stock Today!"

[Anonymous No.10990110]

>>10990058

[Anonymous No.10990160]

>>10990110

[Anonymous No.10990198]

In this crazy times could be everything.
Could be him doing this for the reason to drop burges investor and get on board some mustafas and some chings.
He is rumored to be easy to manipulate

[Anonymous No.10990373]

>>10989161

[Anonymous No.10990380]

>>10988837
Elon is a genius

[Anonymous No.10990389]

>>10990373
just

[Anonymous No.10990391]

>>10990380
kek nice

[Anonymous No.10990405]

>>10990373
there's supposed to be 8 billion people on Earth, why can't you see them either???

[Anonymous No.10990455]

>>10990405
>there's supposed to be 8 billion people on Earth, why can't you see them either???
well the earth is 75% water so logically 6 billion of them are underwater and the other half are on the other side of the planet

[Anonymous No.10990495]

>>10988837
When I started to see Musk name on the internet everyday, without even knowing who the fuck he is, it raised questions.
Years past, musk name is everywhere. It raises questions.
But all you know Musk only for his elec car and rockets, right? only thing that media focuses on.
Rockets will be profitable only in future, how hard is to understand that media fucks?
Cars? eh, my audi a3 diesel is cheaper.
I wonder how long will it take for investors to understand that they invest in name MUSK, not the actual company.

[Anonymous No.10990515]

>>10990380

[Anonymous No.10990706]

>>10988944

If I have to pay tax I'd rather it go to Elon and SpaceX than to some nigger/refugee welfare.

[Anonymous No.10990708]

Watching this was hard work. Joe struggled to keep the conversation going. Most of Elon's responses were pure cringe. Joe was kissing his butt.

He should just be himself and stop trying to sound profound. His philosophical ideas are like a 17 year old fedora.

Why do people like assume technology is always only ever going to get better and better over time. There is such a thing as decline and in fact many areas of technology have been in decline for a long time.

[Anonymous No.10991060]

>>10990706
>whynotboth.jpg

[Anonymous No.10991174]

Underwhelming episode

[Anonymous No.10991247]

>>10990708
>struggled

[Anonymous No.10991379]

>>10989714
Oh you are one of those retards that classify things that are drugs as not drugs because to you drug is a negative word
literally off yourself with these stupid ass opinions of "yours"

[Anonymous No.10991383]

current reality

[Anonymous No.10991385]

It's a rare sight to see an empire go up in a puff of smoke.

[Anonymous No.10991400]

>>10988837

>believing silicon valley diversity hivemind has the pulse on the future when tranny bathrooms are their top action item

whew.

[Anonymous No.10991402]

Did you even listen whole thing? I think it was highly entertaining atleast and his concerns about ao and energy are good imo.

[Anonymous No.10991403]

>>10988837
Everyone who paid attention to business analytics or had to do an econ project at university in the past few years new from the beginning he was a fraud.

[Anonymous No.10991414]

>>10989015
Where is Howard Hughes now?

[Anonymous No.10991416]

>>10990708
7nm gpu for scientific compute. we will see this 20 tflop capability, mabe even under 1000. supercomputing will be possible in much of the third world. big limiting factor is the few organizations that have 24/7 exascale compute access. miniaturizing gpu and cpu is what get better and better because the market says so. these tech that continue to sell will continue to improve. then its just company "culture" which has to change so that the best business models is not withholding technolgy to have 4 releases when all the tech would fit into one ggeneration, but 4 iterations means 4x profit. to the organization of these orginizations must change to have a "company" with greatness as its ultimate end, over profit even. this becomes selfcontadictory but im high and fuck the cops. peace

[Anonymous No.10991463]

>>10991416
Patents were a mistake. It might have been a good thing when people were inventing airplanes and novel designs for cutlery but not for shit like software and computing components.

[Anonymous No.10991625]

>>10988837
Yeah he's a fraud for sure. There's a team behind him and he's the front. I'm sure like the rest of his team, he's driven and quite smart. But he's not some super human that's thinking on the 5D plane. His charisma on the podcast was abysmal, and the way he started crying over climate change was cringe.
I only watch Rogan when the big names come on, and that was the worst one yet (Alex Jones being the best) It was a pathetic and pretty boring interview desu.

[Anonymous No.10991629]

He just took the smoke into his mouth and immediately blew it out again. Very little to no smoke entered his lungs, so virtually no THC entered his blood stream.
He didn't inhale like Clinton except he literally didn't. Joe Rogan is a prick to give Mr Autismo a joint in public like that, trying to get publicity for himself at vulnerable asperger Musks expense. Elon is probably crying on Grime's shoulder as we speak, not getting a wink of sleep last night. "What have I done, why do I always do these stupid thungs, my life is ruined, why did I go on that idiots podcast? He took advantage of me for ratings, I'm too much of a nice guy aspie to say no, what have I done?"

[Anonymous No.10991632]

>>10989323
This. I wouldn’t get high in public. Certainly not broadcasted. The guy is a total imbecile.

[Anonymous No.10991648]

>>10991625
Interview was OK. I mean what did you expect for Elon and Joe to talk about?

Everyone acting like 2 human beings can't fuck all and talk random bullshit and instantly accusing them of being drug addicts are way over their fucking head and acting like hypocritical assholes


Humans can't be humans? Go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.10991705]

>>10991416
What the fuck does Taiwan Semi Conductor Manufacturing have to do with Elon Musk and his shitty cars?

[Anonymous No.10991714]

>>10990708
This.
Regardless of him being a fraud or not, it was a boring interview and he is a seriously uninteresting person.

[Anonymous No.10991745]

>>10991648
In 90% of the world’s countries yolo420dabs nigging is considered criminal scum behaviour.

In China and most of Asia it’s considered as bad as heroin.

[Anonymous No.10991765]

>>10991745
those gooks literally fish for oil in sewers, who cares

[Anonymous No.10991775]

>>10991648
>Interview was OK.
No. It was garbage.

[Anonymous No.10991813]

>>10990405
Because they aren't in space literally orbiting the planet

[Anonymous No.10991819]

>>10990373
Stupidest thing ive ever seen.

You realize those satellite representations are enlarged at least 100000x?

[Anonymous No.10991836]

>>10991629
Now elon is LITERALLY a stutterinf pothead

[Anonymous No.10991855]

>>10991745
>In 90% of the world’s countries yolo420dabs nigging is considered criminal scum behaviour.
Who said that? You? You are aware marijuana is a legit natural drug right?

Any human being who has gotten to the level of success of Elon Musk can do whatever the fuck he wants, you know why? BECAUSE HE ALREADY MADE IT. There's Chinks who have more money than Elon Musk and they're doing more drugs than Elon ever did.

The fact that he can take a puff from a joint and still be what he is proves he's done many things that other 'addicts' or 'yolo420dabs' ever have done in their life.

Most fucking niggers hope to do 1% of what Elon musk has done. Same goes for you, nigger

[Anonymous No.10991886]

>>10988944
I dont think you know what a fraud is dude. The only potentially fraudulent thing he did is claim he secured funding for a buyout of the company, and thats a gray area.

[Anonymous No.10991914]

>>10988837
kek

[Anonymous No.10991935]

>>10989869
Shit even in the Silicon Hills of Austin there are some proper dipshits. A ton of them bought what were formerly crack houses (falling apart of course) with 2 bedrooms on was previously the ghetto side of the town, for fucking $300,000+ ! Sure it's close to the downtown area, but a 20 minute commute away they could have bought houses with 3-5 bedrooms for a similar price.

[Anonymous No.10991946]

>>10991414
He's dead lol

[Anonymous No.10992029]

>>10990058
And neither should you.

(care, OR follow his stock)

[Anonymous No.10992053]

>>10991855
Pretty sure you’re a child
>>10991765
Dunno, maybe the fact that it’s a huge market.

[Anonymous No.10992068]

>>10992053
Have you ever done any drugs in your life?

[Anonymous No.10992069]

>>10988944
Why does Elon trigger people so much?
Seriously, is it really just being an edgy anti-reddit contrarian?

[Anonymous No.10992075]

>>10991383
Dude cnn can go fuck off. Last new years they were literally doing shots and smoking weed on camera. Who gives a fuck what a ceo does on his free time.

[Anonymous No.10992087]

>>10989323
>>10989360
Notice how all his troubles happened once he called out the media for what it was. These posters are nothing more than retarded bootlickers for a press that can deem any man a lunatic with a few articles.

[Anonymous No.10992090]

>>10988837
DUDE LIMBIC SYSTEMS LMAO

What the fuck was he talking about? The internet is a representation of our limbic systems? Limbic Resonance? This is the most retarded and contrived way of saying "DUDE PEOPLE WANT STUFF SO THERE IT IS". What the fuck? Is this man autistic?

[Anonymous No.10992096]

>>10992075
tesla made electric cars a serious thing companies so far have been slacking until elon came along

[Anonymous No.10992117]

>>10988837

if you actually watch the whole clip, it's just him taking a puff of a joint that Rogan says is tobacco and weed, it doesn't even look like he inhales it, and then he says he feels no effect from it and never smokes weed.

that's the extent of his "weed smoking"

[Anonymous No.10992158]

>>10992096
This is literally all a fud from boomers. The only thing people care about is quality and Tesla makes a great car. The weed stigma is so gay. Ambian and prescription pills are so much more devastating to mental health than weed and none of them bat an eye at that shit. So to say this is going to hurt his ability to work effectively is max kek.

[Anonymous No.10992171]

>>10990706
You're an idiot

[Anonymous No.10992212]

>>10992171
T. Cuck

Enjoy your tax dollars getting wasted in a money pit. Welfare and wealth reallocation literally does not work. The same broke poor ass cities that are welfare districts have been poor for the last 70 years sucking on the democrat tit.

[Anonymous No.10992269]

>>10992068
Yes I’ve done shitloads of drugs. And I know that if Elon is just getting started on weed he’s going to become emotionally unstable

[Anonymous No.10992308]

>>10992158
Exactly, people dont know how bad Ambien can be in the long term. Whoever sold after the show deserves to lose their money. I bought the dip when it dropped 8%, ez money.

[Anonymous No.10992322]

>>10992269
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Imagine thinking smoking weed means you will do a bunch of other drugs. Literally literally alcohol makes you do other drugs. I smoke weed and sit in my room and watch netflix. I get black out drunk and find myself doing coke and shit at clubs in bathrooms off iphones. Fuck off with this boomer gate way drug meme.

[Anonymous No.10992341]

>>10992068
I was smoking weed before 9th grade, tried everything from Ketamine, Shrooms, acd, E, coke, pain pills, xanax etc all before I turned 18. Still don't think what this Afrikaaner faggot did was a smart move AT ALL. He is already under intense public scrutiny and is being investigated by the SEC. Him pulling this stunt is a huge red flag that he is losing his sanity. I guarantee none of us give a shit if he smokes weed and fulfills his cuck fantasies with Grimes in the privacy of his house. There is a lot of money at stake (not just his money, but investor and government contract money as well) and he is possibly facing securities fraud charges. It's not a fucking game.

t. 26 year old boomer

[Anonymous No.10992363]

>>10992341
Oh and his new accountant just quit as well after a month. Ol' Musky is going to have to find someone else to cook his books.

[Anonymous No.10992390]

>There is a reason Silicon Valley hates this guy. It's because techies are smart enough to see past the bullshit.

You're clearly not a techie, so what retarded notion gave you the idea that he is a 'fraud'? Why does everyone keep saying this about him? Has he defrauded people of money? No. Has he always paid back any money borrowed with interest like any business? Yes. Please explain how Elon Musk's operations are fraudulent in nature. You can't because you're a fucking emotional brainlet spastic who just feels things and tries to imagine them to be true.

[Anonymous No.10992500]

>>10990380
Beautiful

[Anonymous No.10992536]

investors would rather see him burn through cash then weed. might buy in at 200

[Anonymous No.10992561]

>>10991383

>IT'S NOT A FLAMETHROWER!!

[Anonymous No.10992576]

>>10991632

There's a reason you're shitposting on a vietnamese underwater basket weaving forum and he's on JRE drinking and smoking weed playing with samurai swords

[Anonymous No.10992595]

[Anonymous No.10992858]

>>10992087
>Notice how all his troubles happened once he called out the media for what it was.
Yeah it's "The Media's" fault we can see and hear what he is doing when he texts and broadcasts what he wants us to hear.

It's "The Meida's" Fault his investors don't like his drug use and calling heros child rapists

damn media!

[Anonymous No.10992911]

>>10992158
>This is literally all a fud from boomers. The only thing people care about is quality and Tesla makes a great car. The weed stigma is so gay. Ambian and prescription pills are so much more devastating to mental health than weed and none of them bat an eye at that shit. So to say this is going to hurt his ability to work effectively is max kek.
yeah it's not like he has been doing anything unstable like calling heroes child rapists for pointing out his submarines don't work, or making pot 420 jokes about his stock prices in tweets causing SEC probes.

not like his company has 10billion in debt or anything

[Anonymous No.10992915]

>>10992308
>>>10992158
>Exactly, people dont know how bad Ambien can be in the long term.
Funding Secured.

[Anonymous No.10992981]

>>10992322
You said literally twice. Are you ok?

[Anonymous No.10993264]

>>10988953
the fact nobody responded to this is why biz is poor. Absolutely true. He has a conman/thief face.

[Anonymous No.10993654]

>>10992269
I think I found the child.

Jokes aside, Elon himself said smoking weed isn't for him because weed makes you unproductive and Elon admitted he has to always be finishing something. IF U EVEN WATCHED THE PODCAST, other than judging it all by 1 picture, just like the rest of all the idiots right now, you would have known that.

>>10992341
He took a puff and it was out of fucking respect for Joe.

All you idiots crying about 'muh executive ceo smoke weed on live TV dude' are fucking idiots.

[Anonymous No.10994223]

>>10992981
>y-you said literally t-twice

[Anonymous No.10994360]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk

hiperdump

[Anonymous No.10994383]

>>10988918
the interview was quite good. I dare you to watch it because you probably didnt

[Anonymous No.10994416]

>>10989161
>I say I am going to give you a cookie if you give me a dollar then I take your dollar and give you no cookie.
>
>It's not fraud when I sell you the worlds fastest electric sports car for a fair price or get NASA contracts based on my literal proven spaceship technology company
>
>-you are welcome for y

the engineers he pays with his fraud money did that, not him.

[Anonymous No.10994450]

>>10994416
engineers so smart that they can get it up in space yet so stupid that they work under a supposed fraudster

[Anonymous No.10994469]

i like guys like elon musk. kind of like mark cuban in a way. people who are mavericks, rebels, and arent afraid to give everyone the middle finger. i think its refreshing myself

[Anonymous No.10994498]

SoCal fag here. People who are familiar with musk and those around him already know for a fact he’s is a regular user of far more harder drugs. He’s a billionaire and loves the life and throws parties that would make even the most hedonistic blush. Grow the fuck up and move past the blunt

[Anonymous No.10994532]

>>10988837
No it's because SV, government, and corporations are all mixed together and colluding on preventing the truth of AI to get out.
Elon is telling people what's happening.

[Anonymous No.10994634]

>>10994532
Also the current big wigs in SV seem to view themselves as the "final capitalists" (ironic, considering how heavily we subsidize their ventures) and plan to institute a form of technocratic feudalism using these technologies. They've been steadfast working on assembling the walls of this matrix around us but it appears to have fissured at this point. Outcome is still uncertain.

[Anonymous No.10994805]

>>10988837
anyone with any education past high school knows this already.
remember how he made his money.. paypal. i know you thought that makes him a genius at science.
but the truth is hiring a bunch of engineers, having them design shit, then meet and explain it to you... doesn't make you an engineer or a scientist.
that would be like thinking hiring a mechanic to fix your car could make you a mechanic.